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Faih you do not get special permissions on this map so don't go dictating what kip/whoever else can and can't have.
For brief histories and stuffs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgTvxKfJlBKWdHYtc3hPZHFjQVZWZ1FqUHZYTE16NVE#gid=0
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What, other official map? Can i participate of it?
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you don't need permission to participate in it
this is for people who don't like how fiah is being a poopie
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I do and don't support this. This map will likely just be everyone tired of switching things around (even if they haven't been doing that) and it'll end up being the exact same map as fiah has. Except someone might change their nations around again because they can't seem to get them the way they want.
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but people changing their nations again is fine. as long as others don't bitch about it because it isn't their nation to decide about.
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but that means Aeridani can be 5 tiems the size of other nations
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ok...
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well if fiah doesn't mind his nation being slightly edited (only for size, not for shape or anything else), then we can set up a poll if it should be resized. if fiah does mind his nation being edited, then someone or multiple people should request that he make aeridani smaller.
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The question is, what can we decide and what should people have complete control over themselves...
Well, first of all, one person (like Fiah) cannot decide anything about other people's (like Mudkipz) nations alone.
But what should be decided by majority vote? What should be decided by full consensus? What should we decide ourselves completely?
Before we can make an official map, we will have to figure that out. Otherwise the process of creating it will most likely become a messy anarchy.
Here are some suggestions:
Sizes: The size of nations relative to each other should be decided by majority rule if there is any disagreement.
Shape: The one making the nation can completely control the shape of the nation, as long as they use border thickness and the same colors as we've agreed upon (by majority vote) to make the map consistent.
Population: We ignore this matter in creating our map.
Dimensions: We decide the dimensions of the map by majority vote.
Resolution: Majority vote.
If any disagreement happens, we find a solution before continuing the work on the map.
Some things like dimensions and resolution should be decided before we begin working on the map.
So maybe, we should start by deciding the basic rules we use to make the official map if we want to make one. Then we can begin by continuing work on the other one or whatever. But I'm not going to participate if the process is going to continue like it has.
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also i vote that brush lines are one or two thick only. (two because the funky way diagonals work maybe).
what is the point of creating high resolution maps when you use thick brush to make your borders less fine.
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I'd like at least 2 pixel thick brushes, or at least borders where all the pixels are connected (like on the Blacraft world map). That makes it easy to use the fill tool on them if you need to edit all of the pixels. Clicking every single pixel is a pain.
2 and 3 px seems fine with me, we could also use different colors. I don't really care a lot as long as they're connected.
I stopped doing that back in June/July?
I didn't claim you didn't.
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yeah i like two pixel. i see no point of 3 pixel as it just lowers the clarity and then we need a bigger png file to achieve the same resolution and that is bad.
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yeah i like two pixel. i see no point of 3 pixel as it just lowers the clarity and then we need a bigger png file to achieve the same resolution and that is bad.
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ok lets start.
i vote border thickness: 2
and border color: black
not more than 20 megapixels, maybe 2x1 dimensions
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ok lets start.
i vote border thickness: 2
and border color: black
not more than 20 megapixels, maybe 2x1 dimensions
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ok lets start.
i vote border thickness: 2
and border color: black
not more than 20 megapixels, maybe 2x1 dimensions
+1
Hey, all the people will remake the nations? ._.
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no you can teleport the nations from the other mapp
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But and the thickness? :P
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okokok then redraw the nationings >.<
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>.< means angry, annoyed, frustrated, ??
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But and the thickness? :P
select the inside of nations with magic wand
expand selection by 1 pixel
paintbucket it white.
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>nationstates solar system
....ok lets get started with the map before we start working on the solar system.
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>nationstates solar system
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I vote border thickness = 2.
I vote border color = black.
I vote 2x1 dimensions (width is double the height).
I propose a resolution of 4096 x 2048.
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I vote border thickness 2
Coastline color red, country border black, internal border levels 1 and 2 whatever color you want other than red and black and probably thickness 1.
I vote equirectangular (2:1)
I agree with bla's resolution.
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If thickness 1, can we agree that all the pixels must connect in the internal borders?
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sure
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I say 2:1
but 4096*2048 will be a little crowded unless we all desize our nations
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ummm that's probably what we'll have to do?
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woo throwing out all my history :| :/
i suggest a 3072*3072 map for each hemisphere
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqSvCC8xs0NzdEN2T05EYlEtMVNUbU1idXFlUUZBT3c
posting this link here, but it's useless now so whatever
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If we contiNUEs with the old resolution?
Water Border: 2 px and black
Nation frontiers: 1 px and darker grey
Inside nation division: 1 px and grey
Inside nation divisions division: 1 px and light grey
(Ex.: Issamoria have an federated republik inside it. The states of this federated republik will be marked with 1px borders in light grey)
KOLFUSION
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But and the thickness? :P
select the inside of nations with magic wand
expand selection by 1 pixel
paintbucket it white.
The internal borders will be gone :P
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Oh, and if we make an wiki?
Like this http://pt.anama.wikia.com/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal (http://pt.anama.wikia.com/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal)?
And the map will be like this?
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Well a resolution such as 5010x2505 would approximate to 8km per pixel, because earth is around 40000 pixels wide.
I'm sure we can make a power of 2 work.
woo throwing out all my history :| :/
because scaling your nations changes history in some way?
Oh look a 1x1 m map of the US. Oh look a 1x1 foot map of the US. The Civil War never happened! And we got independence in 1875! Oh and Mexico has California and Arizona!
Freaking imperial system WHAT DID YOU DO?!?!
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Koltomic.
Well 4096x2048 was meant because it's a power of two. Dan said textures which are a power of two look or load better in Ubox so I guess there are some general benefits of using that. 5010x2505 seems pointless imo, might as well be 5000x2500 so it's easier. This planet doesn't have to be (exactly) the same size as Earth.
The closest other powers of 2 would be 8192x4096, which seems too big imo, or 2048x1024, which seems too small.
I really like the 2:1 aspect of the map, though. This should make the reason fairly obvious. The green is a line which would follow the height of the image. The red line would follow the width:
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Ok...
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Oh, and if we make an wiki?
Like this http://pt.anama.wikia.com/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal (http://pt.anama.wikia.com/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal)?
And the map will be like this?
Can we make it in English please?
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Kol, I know, this is not our wiki, is an brazilian one than i used to make an example.
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Kol, I know, this is not our wiki, is an brazilian one than i used to make an example.
Da ok I just wanted to make sure
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Koltomic.
Well 4096x2048 was meant because it's a power of two. Dan said textures which are a power of two look or load better in Ubox so I guess there are some general benefits of using that. 5010x2505 seems pointless imo, might as well be 5000x2500 so it's easier. This planet doesn't have to be (exactly) the same size as Earth.
The closest other powers of 2 would be 8192x4096, which seems too big imo, or 2048x1024, which seems too small.
I really like the 2:1 aspect of the map, though. This should make the reason fairly obvious. The green is a line which would follow the height of the image. The red line would follow the width:
bla do we seriously want to put this world into us2? i thought nobody but fiha and hell used us2 anymore. the 1:1 aspect for each hemisphere, east and west, still means that the total map is 2:1 ratio.
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bla do we seriously want to put this world into us2? i thought nobody but fiha and hell used us2 anymore. the 1:1 aspect for each hemisphere, east and west, still means that the total map is 2:1 ratio.
so I guess there are some general benefits of using that. [not just in Ubox 2]
Anyway, I still use Ubox, and I plan to use it more after the next update.
I prefer a map with everything combined. We could have a 4096x2048 map be the official one and then people could make larger maps of their own nations with more detail but the general shapes following our world map. I don't really like the idea of making seperate hemisphere maps.
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bla do we seriously want to put this world into us2? i thought nobody but fiha and hell used us2 anymore. the 1:1 aspect for each hemisphere, east and west, still means that the total map is 2:1 ratio.
so I guess there are some general benefits of using that. [not just in Ubox 2]
Anyway, I still use Ubox, and I plan to use it more after the next update.
I prefer a map with everything combined. We could have a 4096x2048 map be the official one and then people could make larger maps of their own nations with more detail but the general shapes following our world map. I don't really like the idea of making seperate hemisphere maps.
+1
So, when we will start it? =P
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ok lets do 4096*2048? and it starts when someone makes a blank map and posts it.
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I think a spreadsheet Excel-style would be good for organizing the polls and votes. Something like this.
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i'll set up a google docs with protected ranges and shit.
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Actually it'd probably be better to swap the rows/columns, and have result be the first column to make it easier to quickly see all the polls.
Inspiration:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoYA02Dt7PgRdDRyU08yTlNOZ1QzUUlDZU9MNmEyZ1E&hl=en#gid=0
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edit: i guess we don't. we can just check at the end to make sure everything looks right
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE#gid=0
i added some other questions on about the planetary system of nashunstats.
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I kan't acess this.
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try again now
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fill'd
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hellpotatoe added
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Naw Yes.
I can't edit it.
MAP:
Resolution: 6144*3072
Border Thickness: 2 pxls: coast+nat'l; 1 pxl to internal (if applies)
Border Color: Black (National), Brown (Coast), Grey (Internal)
Blanetary System:
Star Color: G (first), K (second)
Number of Stars: Two
Habitable Blanets: Two
Number of Blanets: 9 (normal) 1 binary pair
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added, just waiting for smjjames and naru523.
the 'yes first', and 'yes second' should have the same value and will only be used to decide the winner in a tie.
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Imo you should only be able to vote in the community NS map polls if you want to be included on the map.
Also maybe make the polls so that you must respond with a yes or no.
Not sure if the "yes first" "yes second" thing is a good idea. How many votes does that give you?
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Imo you should only be able to vote in the community NS map polls if you want to be included on the map.
Also maybe make the polls so that you must respond with a yes or no.
Not sure if the "yes first" "yes second" thing is a good idea. How many votes does that give you?
yes first and yes second are to choose the binary stars, i think :P
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well i let people have multiple votes about the number of planets and star colors because there are so many different options. once we narrow it down to 2 or 3 categories for each we can redo the vote with only one vote per person.
also i agree with the voting in community ns mapp polls only if you're on the map.
so fiah, if you want to have another terrestrial planet which you will be on, your votes for the map won't count.
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Well, I do not even voted twice in the star color. I just chose the color of the first star and then the color of the second (because I chose binary system) :P
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But is there any point in having 2 votes to begin with? If you only have 1 vote, then we can just remove all the options with 0 votes and make a new poll. Instead of giving people the ability to pick even more options.
That doesn't even make sense. If people choose the same options as last time then you might as well have not started a new poll in the first place. A first option, second option thing is good.
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I'm looking at it the google doc, but can't edit it. Also, didn't realize that this was going on, heh.
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You can say your opinion like this:
MAP:
Resolution:
Border Thickness:
Border Color:
Blanetary System:
Star Color:
Number of Stars:
Habitable Blanets:
Number of Blanets:
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I had to log in anyway, so nvm.
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But is there any point in having 2 votes to begin with? If you only have 1 vote, then we can just remove all the options with 0 votes and make a new poll. Instead of giving people the ability to pick even more options.
That doesn't even make sense. If people choose the same options as last time then you might as well have not started a new poll in the first place. A first option, second option thing is good.
The idea was that if the results nobody wanted are removed and people know what each other want already, people may be more likely to compromise and pick new options which they know other people also want, if their first vote wasn't popular and unlikely to win.
So I don't agree with the premise "If people choose the same options as last time" which you use to declare my idea completely nonsensical.
Also I was a bit too fast to write remove everything with 0 votes, you could also remove everything with 1 vote if there are options with 2 votes or more. That was what I wanted, my bad for not expressing that.
But whatever, just use the other system, it was probably better and I don't see any reason to contribute to discussions if people respond to my ideas like that anyway.
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a planet should have like everything we need but is far away and is super-cold, 5 kelvin
^
Just and idea
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WAIT, Yes.
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naru523 pls vote.
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naru523 pls vote.
nar is leaving the forum soon
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naru523 pls vote.
nar is leaving the forum soon
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kol what, restating what naru has said himself is 'crossing the line'?
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smjjames we can fit in hundreds or thousands of planets so please clarify that.
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results:
resolution is 4096*2048
border thickness is 2, and 1 for internal
border color is black for national and other color for coast
star is type K
One star.
number of habitable planets is a tie.
number of planets is a tie between 6, 7, and 9.
i've set up another vote for those polls with ties.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE#gid=1
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listen. we have three options.
one: majority vote
-the most voted option becomes official, because everyone said so.
simple, but people might dislike it because they don't get eveyrthing they want.
two: consensus
-everyone agrees on stuff and everyone is happy
not likely to happen because some people insist on one thing and others on another
three: seperate.
-people who can't agree with the majority of votes split away and make their own star system
everyone is happy
doesn't help roleplay.
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i say 2
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majority vote because 2 won't happen and 3 is stupid
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majority vote will turn into 3 because fiah will split as soon as he doesn't get a O class star or whatever
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ok new poll up right beneath the old one, because the instant i decide to not use protected ranges, someone messes with all the votes.
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oh, i forgot option 4
astronomy has been completely outlawed, and every nationstate has their own official view on the outside universe.
tada.
solved every problem.
except roleplaying in space.
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ok but my view is the correct one
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ok but my view is the correct one
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Hey, we haves 4 votes in binary, no 3 ._.
And hey, someone not make wat i say'd :c
I can change my votes?
If Yes:
Habitabla blanets: "Depends on what you mean by habitable and whether it already has life on it. If its defined as habitable as in people can colonize it, two or more possibly and if its something that has life, probably one, but more than one is okay I guess."
Numblar of Blanets: I SAYEDNumber of Blanets: 9 (normal) 1 binary pair
And i sayed Border Color: Black (National), Brown (Coast), Grey (Internal)
Well, i think than i will go to other blanet too. :P
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ok we have a tie for binary star vs single star, so we'll have to choose using a random number system.
to randomize this, we can use the last digit of the s&p 500
if, at a predetermined time, the last digit is from 0-4, we have a single star.
if the last digit is 5-9, we have a binary star.
i was hoping thursday, 12 pm is a good time.
if no one has any objections we'll do just that.
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also fiah, we can compromise on the star color if you still want to be in the same star system after we chose binary or single star. and then we can have two star colors as well, if binary is chosen.
also, at whoever is making the comments in the total votes section; i've mentioned that 1st, 2nd, or 3rd votes mean nothing to me, except when determining the winner of a tie. they're all weighed equally. (or, even if you haven't noticed me mentioning it on the irc, in the section i said 'pick 3')
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/me sabotages the S&P 500 to close when its last digit is 7
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this is the most i could get of all our nashuns in to a 4096*2048 mapp (of course i could move nausikkak+himalia a couple pixels closer to the main continent, but aren't they close enough already?)
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it will be shrunk down in size.
(the continents won't get smaller, the scale will just get bigger)
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can i still have my 7km per pixel side himalia
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not sure what you mean.
if you want, you can leave himalia as it is on the map, because you don't want to redo it.
however, each pixel is now about 10 kilometers, so himalia will be twice as big in area as before.
also, not everyone can just leave their nation as it is because it will not fit in the map.
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oh kolok. i will desize himalia for the official map.
how about an unofficial map that is larger at 7km/5km pixel
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hellpotatoe, naru, smjjames, and bong need to vote still.
@darvince i think we've agreeed having any number of unofficial maps is fine. we have like 20 of those already in the ns map thread.
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hellpotatoe, naru, smjjames, and bong need to vote still.
@darvince i think we've agreeed having any number of unofficial maps is fine. we have like 20 of those already in the ns map thread.
doing it now
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Apparently you guys do not recognize me and my own world.
I'm out, and I am dead serious this time
lol what are you talking about.
oh, and doesn't you having your own world mean you're already 'out'?
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then your votes shouldn't count unless you're in the same system and in that case all of your votes for the world we are on are invalid for you.
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hellpotatoe, naru, smjjames, and bong need to vote still.
@darvince i think we've agreeed having any number of unofficial maps is fine. we have like 20 of those already in the ns map thread.
Uhhh...
Well, i think than i will go to other blanet too. :P
But if you wanna my votes:
Habitabla blanets: three (your one, fiah one, my one :P)
Habited blanets: three (your one, fiha one, ma one)
Number of blanets: 8
moons around habited blanet: 4 (your one?)
Blanet gravity: near earth
Projection: WHAT? (if equirectangular is this one (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7069.msg81058.html#msg81058), i choose equirectangular)
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k, just needs bla, smjjames, naru for voting.
also we officially have a single star now.
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kolok
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we have 8 planets, two of which are habitable, and on of which is habited. the habited planet has 4 moons.
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our star is a k class star.
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actually we have 9 planets because i sabotaged it and added 8 plant as an option
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no we have 8 because more people like.
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everyone voted for 9 planet but then i added 8 planet as an option and bumped down 9 planet by 1 row
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ok we have 9 plant.
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really rough thing for SKA
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/me smooths kalassak's rough
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[11:42.17] <+sagua> vh actually the 7km per pixel old map was actually per pixel^0
[11:42.37] <+sagua> because the 7km was across one of the lines on the outside of the pixel
[11:42.58] <vh> sorry what, you just confused me more than wikipedia's more technical articles
[11:43.08] <+sagua> kol
[11:43.17] <+sagua> pixel^0 = 1 dimensional pixel
[11:43.25] <+sagua> aka line
[11:43.28] <vh> .....
[11:43.29] <vh> no
[11:43.32] <vh> oh
[11:43.33] <vh> wait
[11:43.33] <vh> yes.
[11:43.34] <vh> ....
[11:43.38] * vh throws poo at sagua
[11:43.46] <+sagua> you're late
[11:43.50] <vh> NO
[11:43.56] <vh> PIXEL^0 IS POINT
[11:43.58] <+sagua> time to make a twice as detailed elevation for himalia
[11:44.00] <+sagua> no
[11:44.01] <vh> because pixel = length^2
[11:44.09] <vh> so then (length^2)^0
[11:44.14] <+sagua> pixel^1 = pixel = length^2
[11:44.14] <vh> =length^(2*0)
[11:44.18] <vh> =length^0
[11:44.20] <vh> =point
[11:44.26] <+sagua> wtf
[11:44.33] * vh throws monkey poo
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ok, i was thinking we could make a secondary large-ass map that is the scale of 7/3km (about 2.3km) per pixel.
here is darvincia's portion of that mapp, if we ever go ahead wif it.
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it is official
everything on a map is either male genitalia, female genitalia, secks, or butt according to fiah.
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Done. ;D
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fiah why can't you just use this for aeridani:
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Hey, bong, where's Bongatar? :P
Uh, I'm remaked Iz-Lato with the old rules because I can.
Someone can make a high-resolution map of it? :P
Edit= ok we have 9 plant.
One of them is a kakti? :3
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this is the official community map.
also, quick tutorial on how to downsize your high-res maps onto the community one:
1. your country map should be just a shape with no internal borders
2. magic-wand select
3. paste onto community map (in a new layer)
4. resize and reposition as necessary
5. deselect/whatever
6. magic wand to click it with tolerance 0
7. shrink border slightly to match it up with the border of your country if necessary
8. invert selection
9. delete everything
10. invert selection
11. delete everything
12. repaint with white with paintbucket
13. expand selection 2 pixels
14. paint the edge of the selection black with paintbucket to create the border
15. modify/remove any border section that connects to the main landmass if necessary.
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yes, but we never agreed on red oceanic borders, and you also said you were going to be in another solar system. also no text on the map except nationnames (we can hold a poll on that if you want)
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i mean text as in the blurb you have there. nation names text is fine. still want to hold a poll [y/n]
also america didn't tell the earth to make sure the bering strait was created, so i don't think you can tell people to not place stuff in your deformed circle. you'll just have to hope no one decides to enter if and if someone does we can have a lengthy debate until there is consensus.
also bump for the latest map
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[06:27.33] <vh> 1 pixel-side
[06:27.34] <vh> is 10 km
[06:27.37] <+FiahOwl> 1 pixels de?
[06:27.39] <+FiahOwl> oh
[06:27.45] <+FiahOwl> so 10km pixels length
[06:27.51] <+FiahOwl> so 100km per square pixel #no, that would mean that a pixel^2=100km which means that each pixel's side length is about 3.16 (km^0.25)
[06:29.14] <vh> no
[06:29.19] * FiktylPegasus (~fp@unaffiliated/atomic7732) Quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi (http://colloquy.mobi))
[06:29.26] <vh> 100 (km)^2 per square pixel #i meant 100(km)^2 per pixel
[06:31.17] <+FiahOwl> So if my nation had 400 pixels
[06:31.28] <+FiahOwl> it's area is 160,000km square?
[06:31.30] <+FiahOwl> anyways dinner
no.
400 pixels=400 pixels * 100(km)^2 / pixel = 40,000 (km)^2
forty thousand square kilometers.
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i don't know whats the business with *100^2/100.
just read this:
pixel-side length = 10km
pixel = 10 square km
pixel^2 = no such thing.
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what are these straight water borders even
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uhhh kip can i move kallisto and attach an NPC landmass to it.
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yesdar.
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kolok
because i nawt want it attached to himalia
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I suggest that the temporary time has ended and that if we want something, we decide it by consensus or voting.
Can't even find the thread we used to discuss those things...
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bla what
why do we have to involve everyone if it only affects two people.
Disclaimer: Climate of other nations may be affected.
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bla what
why do we have to involve everyone if it only affects two people.
Disclaimer: Climate of other nations may be affected.
I removed the red lines and the text, shouldn't we exactly involve everyone before we decide whether making such lines should be ok and what size they should be etc.?
What we put on the map affects everyone, it's our collective map, so we should agree when we make changes. Just like we should agree on the size of borders, we should agree before we put the other things on.
Personally I'd be for nation names ofc. Not sure whether we should set rules on the fonts, we could make a poll on that. Ocean borders I'm not sure about either, depends on style. I'd be against writing a description of your nation on the map.
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what are these straight water borders even
curved water borders make no logical sense
Personally I'd be for nation names ofc. Not sure whether we should set rules on the fonts, we could make a poll on that. Ocean borders I'm not sure about either, depends on style. I'd be against writing a description of your nation on the map.
I think:
- Nation names: font chosen by user for their nations
- No ocean borders (the only ocean borders that should be set should be for tropical cyclone forecasting! and for the eastern hemisphere, the Nausikkak Meteorological Collaboration has that covered.)
- No descriptions
Also is kip not like... in the way... ? That's where Nausikkak was, was it not?
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yes. Let's extermikate the evil kiplands.
we. are. red.
I mean ready.
Nation names, custom fonts is ok, but what about font size regulations? Based on the area of a nation, or have the same size for all nations maybe? A max area for names to fill?
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It should not go outside the nation's borders.
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National colors seem best?
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i don't particularly like the national colors, but i don't mind them. we can just have a colored and uncolored version, it's just a matter of 2 minutes to paintbucket everything.
nation-text should be standardized, i hope a bit smaller than the large text fiah had in the second picture. also only one nation-name-label per nation, 'united states of america' isn't writen on alaska and hawaii.
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what are these straight water borders even
curved water borders make no logical sense
Personally I'd be for nation names ofc. Not sure whether we should set rules on the fonts, we could make a poll on that. Ocean borders I'm not sure about either, depends on style. I'd be against writing a description of your nation on the map.
I think:
- Nation names: font chosen by user for their nations
- No ocean borders (the only ocean borders that should be set should be for tropical cyclone forecasting! and for the eastern hemisphere, the Nausikkak Meteorological Collaboration has that covered.)
- No descriptions
Also is kip not like... in the way... ? That's where Nausikkak was, was it not?
i don't know what you mean by where nausikkak was, there have been probably at least 10 so-called 'official maps', just move kallisto over if you want, i didn't have a specified position so i just floated it in the center. keep it slightly north of the equator and pointing in the same direction if at all possible.
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also about the fonts:
1. I don't like the idea of custom fonts, it would make the map look strange/sloppy to me
2. That's no problem, we can just make a version with the custom fonts, and one without
3. text should not obscure or touch the borders of any landmass/area.
how does this sound:
one colored/custom font/colored borders /whatever divisions/whatever you want map.
one map with standard white and blue colors, one font, nation black borders only.
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Well, we could simply start by making the land, and make the text and borders layers on top of it in a GIMP/xcf file or something. Then we can change versions quickly and don't have to make lots of different versions every time we want to update some borders.
Of course, we can decide the borders roughly before drawing them.
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i suggest we make the national borders first, and then when it is done, a seperate .png for text and internal borders and whatever else can be made?
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Ok, but dont add my kontinnent, i will make this on teh future, after sum alterations.
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i don't particularly like the national colors, but i don't mind them. we can just have a colored and uncolored version, it's just a matter of 2 minutes to paintbucket everything.
nation-text should be standardized, i hope a bit smaller than the large text fiah had in the second picture. also only one nation-name-label per nation, 'united states of america' isn't writen on alaska and hawaii.
agree
Well, we could simply start by making the land, and make the text and borders layers on top of it in a GIMP/xcf file or something. Then we can change versions quickly and don't have to make lots of different versions every time we want to update some borders.
Of course, we can decide the borders roughly before drawing them.
yes anyone who disagrees with this idea is extremely illogical
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yes mudkipz is in the way of nausikkak.
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Well, we could simply start by making the land, and make the text and borders layers on top of it in a GIMP/xcf file or something. Then we can change versions quickly and don't have to make lots of different versions every time we want to update some borders.
Of course, we can decide the borders roughly before drawing them.
WAIT BLA. if a region is already settled and decided, it should be in the background layer.
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Well, we could simply start by making the land, and make the text and borders layers on top of it in a GIMP/xcf file or something. Then we can change versions quickly and don't have to make lots of different versions every time we want to update some borders.
Of course, we can decide the borders roughly before drawing them.
WAIT BLA. if a region is already settled and decided, it should be in the background layer.
there should be several layers for an already completed nation... a coastline layer, a border layer, a fill layer, and an ocean layer (maybe more?)
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inb4 100 layers
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Well I think there should be enough layers that if someone wants to make a specific version they like they can do that, but when editing the map should be kept in the standard editable format, along with a png image.
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i just made a very strange analogy
minecraft > add mods
base community ns map > add filters/layers
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thanks but lets leave the pokemon thing out of the list of layers to avoid making stuff complicated.
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That's a misc map for me to model my roads after.
whatever you say, pikachu
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A too fucking cold to inhabit
Too cold?
For Aeridanes?
How large is the island or are you at like 70N?
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eww coloration. is the coloration based on who owns the nations or what nation it is. because if it is what nation it is then i'm going to have a hard time coming up with 19 colors i can associate with my nashuns.
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eww coloration. is the coloration based on who owns the nations or what nation it is. because if it is what nation it is then i'm going to have a hard time coming up with 19 colors i can associate with my nashuns.
ha yeah 5 colors for Amalthea is difficult as it is, especially since about 27 different nations are going to conflict with NP's solid red... it's such a popular color, isn't it?
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Maybe someone could resize The Nausikkoltinent and put it on the map?
And Kipproves of this?
Made a gimpy file.
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no
kip said
i don't know what you mean by where nausikkak was, there have been probably at least 10 so-called 'official maps', just move kallisto over if you want, i didn't have a specified position so i just floated it in the center. keep it slightly north of the equator and pointing in the same direction if at all possible.
now kallisto is in the way of the mane continent
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I did read and follow what Kip said.
Then I don't know where to put it.
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does anyone want to define the 'main continents' and which nations are on the 'main continent'
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Well, only put this nations on the map (someone will have to draw them :P) and i'm happy:
The Altëbenian Empire (Al Artebanne Impiruch)= Sikkilian (Irish and Maltese moisture)
The Good Lands of Amanysland (Nacla Nilami Amanysland)= Escarobian (Tamil and Hindi moisture)
The Federative Republic of Barcegna (La Repubblique Fédérativa dul Barcegna)= Barcegne (Spanish, French and Italian moisture)
The Calabell Empire (Ell Callabell Emperio) = Espirantia (modifyed spanish)
The Rebirth of Cassirissa (Deh Rhebirf ov Cahsirihsa)= Niwblarian (Modified English)/"Blalang(s)"
The Union of Central Pentadomeun (Denionafeng Csentrung Fenfomegy-ui) = Quintarian (Afrikaans, German, Chinese, Korean and Danish moisture)
The Woman Republic of Danieren Cassien (Teh Waman Rehpublac of Damnierren Kolsien)= Neoblarian (This-Forum)/"Blalang(s)"
Free Lands of Free Freedom = ---Any---
The Queensdom of Giziania (Ol Raiñado del Gizeania) = Espõrtuguese (obviously an moisture of Espanish and portuguese)
The Realm of Issalosia ()= Issalosian(Issamorian + Aeridanish)/Lovissamorian(Issamorian + NUELANGS)
The Greath Republic of Lariennia (Tha Granig Repúblic Dof Laryennea) = Gosturian (Portuguese + modifications + english)
The Union of Lavye-Maryuvia (Soyulik va Lavië-Mariukea//=Sovkovan)(Soyunie vok Lavie-Mariukia=Kopkovan)= Sovkovan (Russian, Romanian and Turkish)/Kopkovan(Russian, Romanian and Czech)/Soleani/Auspik
The Realm of Minecraftia (The Realm of Minecraftia) - English (?)
The Kingdom of Myattia (Konugariget Meattia)= Miarrian (Danish + Swedish)/Neokolokian
The Neo-European Union (Tha Neo-Europea Unión) = Nearopean (English + Spanish)
The Kingdom of New Issamoria (Ohe Reidom dof Nowa Issamoria) = Issamorian (Portuguese + English)
The North Pentadominium (Dhi Nordanis Fetsominoder)= Fivorian (English, Italian, Japanese, Latin and Norwegian)
The Pedrist Union of Pedramerica (A União Pedrista da Pedramerica) = Pedruguese (modified portuguese)
The Potato Lands (The Potato Leeks)= Rootian ()
The Sion Islands (Le Sió Isolles) = Sionian (Italian + catalan)
The South Pentadominii (Coc Jimgu Cipêsatoven) = Cincovanii (Portuguese, Russian, Vietnamese, Turkish and Czech)
Tusaria, The Two Rivers Republic (Tüsarea, Arepungbhoa Doi Doion Róngs)= Tusarian (Galician + Vietnamese)
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uhhhh
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Seems like Iz-Lato wants to become the next europe :I
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A too fucking cold to inhabit
Too cold?
For Aeridanes?
How large is the island or are you at like 70N?
I'm at like Canadian latitude I think...
...and if you want to populate an Alaska filled with siberian bears and evil natives running around, sure... We'll just take the resources there :paranoid:
I don't see why natives would be there I mean I assume that since you were part of Lysteriok you already inhabited the island, surely you weren't much ahead of them in technology a thousand years ago?
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Seems like Iz-Lato wants to become the next europe :I
Well, only put this nations on the map (someone will have to draw them :P) and i'm happy:
The Altëbenian Empire (Al Artebanne Impiruch)= Sikkilian (Irish and Maltese moisture)
The Good Lands of Amanysland (Nacla Nilami Amanysland)= Escarobian (Tamil and Hindi moisture)
The Federative Republic of Barcegna (La Repubblique Fédérativa dul Barcegna)= Barcegne (Spanish, French and Italian moisture)
The Calabell Empire (Ell Callabell Emperio) = Espirantia (modifyed spanish)
The Rebirth of Cassirissa (Deh Rhebirf ov Cahsirihsa)= Niwblarian (Modified English)/"Blalang(s)"
The Union of Central Pentadomeun (Denionafeng Csentrung Fenfomegy-ui) = Quintarian (Afrikaans, German, Chinese, Korean and Danish moisture)
The Woman Republic of Danieren Cassien (Teh Waman Rehpublac of Damnierren Kolsien)= Neoblarian (This-Forum)/"Blalang(s)"
Free Lands of Free Freedom = ---Any---
The Queensdom of Giziania (Ol Raiñado del Gizeania) = Espõrtuguese (obviously an moisture of Espanish and portuguese)
The Realm of Issalosia ()= Issalosian(Issamorian + Aeridanish)/Lovissamorian(Issamorian + NUELANGS)
The Greath Republic of Lariennia (Tha Granig Repúblic Dof Laryennea) = Gosturian (Portuguese + modifications + english)
The Union of Lavye-Maryuvia (Soyulik va Lavië-Mariukea//=Sovkovan)(Soyunie vok Lavie-Mariukia=Kopkovan)= Sovkovan (Russian, Romanian and Turkish)/Kopkovan(Russian, Romanian and Czech)/Soleani/Auspik
The Realm of Minecraftia (The Realm of Minecraftia) - English (?)
The Kingdom of Myattia (Konugariget Meattia)= Miarrian (Danish + Swedish)/Neokolokian
The Neo-European Union (Tha Neo-Europea Unión) = Nearopean (English + Spanish)
The Kingdom of New Issamoria (Ohe Reidom dof Nowa Issamoria) = Issamorian (Portuguese + English)
The North Pentadominium (Dhi Nordanis Fetsominoder)= Fivorian (English, Italian, Japanese, Latin and Norwegian)
The Pedrist Union of Pedramerica (A União Pedrista da Pedramerica) = Pedruguese (modified portuguese)
The Potato Lands (The Potato Leeks)= Rootian ()
The Sion Islands (Le Sió Isolles) = Sionian (Italian + catalan)
The South Pentadominii (Coc Jimgu Cipêsatoven) = Cincovanii (Portuguese, Russian, Vietnamese, Turkish and Czech)
Tusaria, The Two Rivers Republic (Tüsarea, Arepungbhoa Doi Doion Róngs)= Tusarian (Galician + Vietnamese)
Kol.
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Maybe someone could resize The Nausikkoltinent and put it on the map?
And Kipproves of this?
Made a gimpy file.
bump
(yes i kipprove, although kallisto might be moved around in the future)
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easier =/= better
we could just keep the seperate layers in seperate pngs, so that everyone can use them however.
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We could but that might be a lot of files.
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i was thinking we could do the base map first, on one png, just black borders, white land, and blue ocean, nothing else. then once that was completed everyone would have the base layer, so any additional text and color layers could be shuffled around without needing to include the base layer.
It might be a lot, but usually height/density/poverty/wealth/disease/ethnic group maps are in different pngs too.
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I'm waitin my map :P
Edit's - If's no's one's make's it's, I's make's.
Edit2 - Taken.
Edit3- I vote Paint.net file and not GIMP, as Paint.net is much more easy to use IMO
+1
easier =/= better
we could just keep the seperate layers in seperate pngs, so that everyone can use them however.
+1
Naw I will only use this ones:
The Neo-European Union (Tha Neo-Europea Unión) = Nearopean
The Kingdom of New Issamoria (Ohe Reidom dof Nowa Issamoria) = Issamorian
The Potato Lands (The Potato Leeks)= Rootian (:P) FUN Nation
Free Lands of Free Freedom = ---Any--- FUN Nation
The Queensdom of Giziania (Ol Raiñado del Gizeania) = Espõrtuguese
The Realm of Issalosia ()= Issalosian(Issamorian + Aeridanish)/Lovissamorian(Issamorian + NARULANGS)
The Big Republic of Issablaria (Teh Blag Republac of Issablaria) Neoblarian
The Union of Lavye-Maryuvia (Soyulik va Lavië-Mariukea//=Sovkovan)(Soyunie vok Lavie-Mariukia=Kopkovan)= Sovkovan (Russian, Romanian and Turkish)/Kopkovan(Russian, Romanian and Czech)/Soleani/Auspik
The Pedrist Union of Pedramerica (A União Pedrista da Pedramerica) = Pedruguese FUN Nation
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I saw a "south african dominion" a while ago, I thought I would have no problem :/
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Here you are :P
Hey, and if we make a "political map" using something colored like this?
Hellpotatoe have green. His nations have to be in greenish colors.
Fiah have blue. His nations have to be in blueish colors.
Bla have (...)
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Wasn't there a problem with the Kiplands being in that location?
Also I agree that we shouldn't use Earthly names on our planet. That makes no sense.
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Okay, okay, i will change teh name ._.
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kiplands being there is fine -- if everone else if fine and the position is finalized, i will apply the correct amount of projection distortion to the shape.
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bump.
aeridani nation has visual size of 152k pixels, actual size of120k
kallisto nation has visual size of 123k pixels, actual size of 96k
all the various hellpotatoe nations?-- are they all his?
have a combined visual size of 253k pixels, actual size 219k
so hellpotatoe can you shrink your nations issamoria or however you spell it to about 50% size and have them all the same colors (or else we run out of colors)
math here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dHptQVJCeDh6a2JFY2RBcTVvWjZhMWc&pli=1#gid=0
also bla, matty, nue, darvince are you going to add your nations eventually or what
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what happened to the continent that nar and matty had their nations on
i thought this was a continuation of the previous ns mapp. fuck.
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what happened to the continent that nar and matty had their nations on
i thought this was a continuation of the previous ns mapp. fuck.
you "thought"? No... I thought. You made the topic, you should know.
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well this isn't a continuation, but it'd be perfectly fine to bring the old continents over if everyone is fine and you can cut a bit off to get it in. Also maybe ask hellpotatoe to shrink his continent
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hmm.
does nar/matty/smjjames have large amounts of canon for their nations that requires a northern hemisphere
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why don't me you and bla work on an official Nausikkak map in some topic
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[08:10.08] <+Darvince> vh is the mapp completely nue
[08:10.15] <+Darvince> because if it is then i declare it unoffial
kol this is not a new or old map...it's just the community one
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would the fiahpee and hellpotatoe shrink their empires by 50% pls.
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did you even shrink it at all...
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7618.0;attach=18534;image (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7618.0;attach=18534;image)
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7618.0;attach=18536;image (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7618.0;attach=18536;image)
tab back and forth...they're just moved around
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I tried to move Kallisto somewhere else and Kip was fine with it. You were the one complaining, Darvince, maybe you should move it?
And yes, let's bring the nations from the old map onto this one, also Nausikkak. I just don't really know how much to shrink it and stuff so I haven't done it.
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well there are two ways to shrink it:
this is the official community map.
also, quick tutorial on how to downsize your high-res maps onto the community one:
1. your country map should be just a shape with no internal borders
2. magic-wand select
3. paste onto community map (in a new layer)
4. resize and reposition as necessary
5. deselect/whatever
6. magic wand to click it with tolerance 0
7. shrink border slightly to match it up with the border of your country if necessary
8. invert selection
9. delete everything
10. invert selection
11. delete everything
12. repaint with white with paintbucket
13. expand selection 2 pixels
14. paint the edge of the selection black with paintbucket to create the border
15. modify/remove any border section that connects to the main landmass if necessary.
2.
1)transform the area
2)shrink it
3)new layer
4)trace
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fine I shrunk it
:P
He wanna less land, no less sea :P
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Can someone add my nation to the map because when I try to post the new map it doesn't show up...
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maybe you want to try uploading it to a site like imgdiode or imageshack.
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inb4 .bmp
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also i think there is a slight problem with this map, the projection we are using is non-ideal imo.
here is earth with equirectangular, the current projection we're using: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Equirectangular-projection.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Equirectangular-projection.jpg)
greenland is about the size of brazil, it seems, but in irl, brazil is several times larger.
over 58% of this map has a distortion of 10% or more, i think 10% is an acceptable amount, but for over half the map to have a distortion larger than that is not exactly perfect. over 11% of the entire map is twice as large as it is irl; pretty much this and up is all distorted by twice, (also the south pole too) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80th_parallel_north (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80th_parallel_north)
the top and bottom 10 pixels of the map are enlarged by more than 1000% due to this projection.
so i think it is a good idea to change the projection, since no major work has started on the map yet, this will be easy.
the below are some good ones:
Goode's homolosine
1) least area deformation
2) shapes stay the same shape
robinson
1) little area deformation
2) shapes remain relatively close
mollweide
1) equal area
2) shape deformation present
dymaxion
1) area and shapes remain close to same
2) however, it is split up into shapes
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ok
how about 8 mapps.
first is IDL to 90W horizontally and 90N to equator vertically, centered at 40N. second is 90W to PM horizontally and 90N to equator vertically, and so on.
or we find a program where you can paint on to 3 dimensional surfaces and just put everything directly on to the sphere.
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8 mapps is fine, but it might get a bit complicated. However, we could do this:
make 8 maps, or more/less
put them together into several official maps from different directions.
the problem we're facing is that we're trying to take two dimensional areas, imaginarily project them onto three dimensional spheres, (which is impossible), and then trying to turn those spheres, back into a two dimension representation (impossible to do perfectly).
We could find a program to paint onto 3 dimensional surfaces (google sketchup might work), but it might be very tedious to redraw everything.
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I don't like the idea of having non-rectangular maps. Imo we should just accept the distortion. Robinson and Mollweide could maybe be an acceptable absolute emergency solution... But no matter what projection we use it won't be perfect, so it depends on what we value. I value the map being rectangular very high and I think the distortion is more acceptable than having a map filled with cuts.
Multiple maps is a bad idea imo, we can make local area maps however we want, but whether we fill a single map with cuts or make 8 seperate maps it ends up being a mess, and distortion will never go away unless we paint directly on a sphere. I'd prefer a single map.
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If we use something like mollewiede then how are we going to wrap it onto a sphere? Wasnt this program that converted equirectangular images to other types, anyways?
since when was the plan to make a map that would fit on a sphere? i thought the purpose of the map was to have something to base rp's and stuff off of
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I don't like the idea of having non-rectangular maps. Imo we should just accept the distortion. Robinson and Mollweide could maybe be an acceptable absolute emergency solution... But no matter what projection we use it won't be perfect, so it depends on what we value. I value the map being rectangular very high and I think the distortion is more acceptable than having a map filled with cuts.
Multiple maps is a bad idea imo, we can make local area maps however we want, but whether we fill a single map with cuts or make 8 seperate maps it ends up being a mess, and distortion will never go away unless we paint directly on a sphere. I'd prefer a single map.
i meant to make eight maps, and then from that, to create 2 maps, each focused on each side of the world for less distortion.
i would be fine with the distortion, except for the fact that then your nation isn't actually shaped like your nation. like a local area map of greenland looks nothing like greenland on the world map in most projections. If you put a greenland that looked like greenland where it is on the mercator, it would not be right.
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also what is the advantage of rectangular maps that they are advantegeous
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the primary goal of this map is not to wrap it on a sphere, we can make it in another projection, then convert it with your magic program (link?), and then wrap it on a sphere.
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Agree that it'd be nice to have it rectangular so it could be wrapped around a sphere in Ubox.
Also imo rectangular maps are the easiest to "read", it looks nicest and utilizes the entire picture (which is also rectangular in any case). And it's very easy to wrap around because it stops in a vertical line so you can just copy the edge and move it to the other.
I don't see why it's such a big deal that it's distorted.
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no the big deal is not that it's distorted, the big deal is that the shape is not the same.
if you put a huge, equilateral triangle where greenland is irl, and then you look at the triangle in a mercator, or equidistant projection, the equilateral triangle is not a equilateral triangle. So if my nation has a shape 'f' irl, and then i put it on the equidistant map by just copying and pasting, it will be wrong, because it is not supposed to look like shape 'f', it is supposed to look distorted. If i put the nation as shape 'f' onto the map, it will look completely different irl, and if i draw a equilateral triangle on the equidistant map close to the poles, irl, it will not look like a equilateral triangle. I don't have a problem with the distortion, i have a problem with the non-ability to have the correct distortion.
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ok then how about we keep land away from the poles.
fiah and hellpotatoe must still desize their nationings.
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i don't have it, so we'll have to refind it if we are to use it.
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I don't like the idea of having non-rectangular maps. Imo we should just accept the distortion. Robinson and Mollweide could maybe be an acceptable absolute emergency solution... But no matter what projection we use it won't be perfect, so it depends on what we value. I value the map being rectangular very high and I think the distortion is more acceptable than having a map filled with cuts. I'd prefer a single map.
also what is the advantage of rectangular maps that they are advantegeous
Latitude and longitude is consistent throughout the image and doesn't have to be calculated. (at least with equirectangular) That is something I plan on taking advantage of.
the primary goal of this map is not to wrap it on a sphere, we can make it in another projection, then convert it with your magic program (link?), and then wrap it on a sphere.
You and nue posted it on the forum around December IIRC
Pretty sure it was naru who posted it.
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Latitude and longitude is consistent throughout the image and doesn't have to be calculated. (at least with equirectangular) That is something I plan on taking advantage of.
it won't be very useful at all if the shapes of the nations aren't even right. I'd like to keep the nations as far from the poles as possible.
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It'll be very useful because it's not hard to determine where something is located on the map.
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yes but that comes with the side effect that the world map and your local map disagree with each other.
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Not very much, and if someone doesn't mind it they can be near the poles if they choose to do so.
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well how much depends on how precise you want to be. almost 60% of the world has a distortion of over 10%. I guess i'm fine with it then (the rectangular poojection).
although at the poles the distortion is infinity.
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no the big deal is not that it's distorted, the big deal is that the shape is not the same.
The problem isn't distortion, but the problem is distortion...?
Distortion is an alteration of shapes.
if you put a huge, equilateral triangle where greenland is irl, and then you look at the triangle in a mercator, or equidistant projection, the equilateral triangle is not a equilateral triangle.
It's not an equilateral triangle but it's still a triangle. The shape is roughly the same, but it's distorted.
No matter what you do there's no way you can perfectly turn a sphere into a map. Something will ALWAYS get distorted when you turn a sphere into a plane.
And why is this suddenly a problem now, it never seemed to be a problem before when we were making the old NS map. We already voted to use equirectangular projection, I'd guess people have had the chance to find information about what they were actually voting for but if you think that's not the case let's just set up another one.
So if my nation has a shape 'f' irl, and then i put it on the equidistant map by just copying and pasting, it will be wrong, because it is not supposed to look like shape 'f', it is supposed to look distorted. If i put the nation as shape 'f' onto the map, it will look completely different irl, and if i draw a equilateral triangle on the equidistant map close to the poles, irl, it will not look like a equilateral triangle. I don't have a problem with the distortion, i have a problem with the non-ability to have the correct distortion.
What is the correct distortion?
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The only thing than I know is:
If's map's shape's change's, I goe's, because's I don't's know's how's to's draw's in's the's other's random's format's
If the map "type" change, someone will have to draw on it to me, because idk how to make it.
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no the big deal is not that it's distorted, the big deal is that the shape is not the same.
The problem isn't distortion, but the problem is distortion...?
Distortion is an alteration of shapes.
kolok
if you put a huge, equilateral triangle where greenland is irl, and then you look at the triangle in a mercator, or equidistant projection, the equilateral triangle is not a equilateral triangle.
It's not an equilateral triangle but it's still a triangle. The shape is roughly the same, but it's distorted.
No matter what you do there's no way you can perfectly turn a sphere into a map. Something will ALWAYS get distorted when you turn a sphere into a plane.
yes but a more accurate map with less distortion is better?
And why is this suddenly a problem now, it never seemed to be a problem before when we were making the old NS map. We already voted to use equirectangular projection, I'd guess people have had the chance to find information about what they were actually voting for but if you think that's not the case let's just set up another one.
because this map is official, and it's a real planet. thats round. (did we decide that, because i would love to have a flat world). also because i've drawn a kallisto map, just like other people have drawn their national maps, and if the national map doesn't match with the world map that is bad.
So if my nation has a shape 'f' irl, and then i put it on the equidistant map by just copying and pasting, it will be wrong, because it is not supposed to look like shape 'f', it is supposed to look distorted. If i put the nation as shape 'f' onto the map, it will look completely different irl, and if i draw a equilateral triangle on the equidistant map close to the poles, irl, it will not look like a equilateral triangle. I don't have a problem with the distortion, i have a problem with the non-ability to have the correct distortion.
What is the correct distortion?
well the horizontal lines on the map are scaled perfectly, but the vertical lines are not. the vertical lines are parralel and spaced an equal distance apart from each other. In reality, the vertical lines should all meet at the top. This means that if your nation is close to the poles, it will be stretched horizontally a certain amount.
i'm fine with the equirectangular map though, if i can have kallisto near the equator the error should be minimal (<10%).
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yes but a more accurate map with less distortion is better?
It would be, but it comes at the cost of other things. Look at the Mollweide projection for example:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Mollweide_projection_SW.jpg/640px-Mollweide_projection_SW.jpg)
Compare that to a sattelite image:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/North_America_satellite_orthographic.jpg/557px-North_America_satellite_orthographic.jpg)
The parts near the edge still get distorted beyond recognizion, and north becomes a curve instead of up on the map, in contrast to the center. Distortion is still a problem, it's just distorted differently.
because this map is official,
The other project was also an attempt to make an official map.
and it's a real planet. thats round. (did we decide that, because i would love to have a flat world). also because i've drawn a kallisto map, just like other people have drawn their national maps, and if the national map doesn't match with the world map that is bad.
The national maps so far could be cut out of the world map and thus have distortion. If you can change projection on the world map then you can also do it on the national map, there shouldn't be any difference there.
But well planets usually are spherical... I'd be against a flat world. We voted for it to be a planet so I assume that means it's spherical.
well the horizontal lines on the map are scaled perfectly, but the vertical lines are not. the vertical lines are parralel and spaced an equal distance apart from each other. In reality, the vertical lines should all meet at the top. This means that if your nation is close to the poles, it will be stretched horizontally a certain amount.
See the first answer. Something will always get distorted. There's no "correct" distortion.
i'm fine with the equirectangular map though, if i can have kallisto near the equator the error should be minimal (<10%).
I don't have a problem with this.
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yes but a more accurate map with less distortion is better?
It would be, but it comes at the cost of other things. Look at the Mollweide projection for example: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Mollweide_projection_SW.jpg/640px-Mollweide_projection_SW.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Mollweide_projection_SW.jpg/640px-Mollweide_projection_SW.jpg)
Compare that to a sattelite image:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/North_America_satellite_orthographic.jpg/557px-North_America_satellite_orthographic.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/North_America_satellite_orthographic.jpg/557px-North_America_satellite_orthographic.jpg)
The parts near the edge still get distorted beyond recognizion, and north becomes a curve instead of up on the map, in contrast to the center. Distortion is still a problem, it's just distorted differently.
goode's homolosine is better than most, only a bit of unpopulated russia is off: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Goode-homolosine.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Goode-homolosine.jpg)
because this map is official,
The other project was also an attempt to make an official map.
well fiah titled the thread to be official, and we agreed that we wanted an official map, but i don't think we ever voted that the map was official. It doesn't matter anyways. When we were making the other map, i was under the impression that we were on a fictional flat world.
and it's a real planet. thats round. (did we decide that, because i would love to have a flat world). also because i've drawn a kallisto map, just like other people have drawn their national maps, and if the national map doesn't match with the world map that is bad.
The national maps so far could be cut out of the world map and thus have distortion. If you can change projection on the world map then you can also do it on the national map, there shouldn't be any difference there.
they could, but usually local maps aren't cut out of the world map. it would look strange, for example, alaska in the mollweide map. alaska seems stretched out, but i like to imagine my national map as having minimal distortion due to the small part of the globe it fills.
But well planets usually are spherical... I'd be against a flat world. We voted for it to be a planet so I assume that means it's spherical.
well the horizontal lines on the map are scaled perfectly, but the vertical lines are not. the vertical lines are parralel and spaced an equal distance apart from each other. In reality, the vertical lines should all meet at the top. This means that if your nation is close to the poles, it will be stretched horizontally a certain amount.
See the first answer. Something will always get distorted. There's no "correct" distortion.
(i meant just how the map is distorted, not how it's correctly distorted (yes i know i answered your question about the correct distortion :P )).
i'm fine with the equirectangular map though, if i can have kallisto near the equator the error should be minimal (<10%).
I don't have a problem with this.
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goode's homolosine is better than most, only a bit of unpopulated russia is off: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Goode-homolosine.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Goode-homolosine.jpg)
But it's based on Earth's oceans, making it useless for our planet. And as I said earlier, it may not be very distorted, but ripping a planet into chunks like that is a pain to look at, especially where land masses are divided into two parts, like Greenland.
they could, but usually local maps aren't cut out of the world map. it would look strange, for example, alaska in the mollweide map. alaska seems stretched out, but i like to imagine my national map as having minimal distortion due to the small part of the globe it fills.
Yes, so you apply anothet projection as I said. There's no difference between using a strange projection on the world map or your normal map. And if you want absolutely minimal distortion on your normal map you would still have to use another projection than any of the ones used for world maps.
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they could, but usually local maps aren't cut out of the world map. it would look strange, for example, alaska in the mollweide map. alaska seems stretched out, but i like to imagine my national map as having minimal distortion due to the small part of the globe it fills.
Yes, so you apply anothet projection as I said. There's no difference between using a strange projection on the world map or your normal map. And if you want absolutely minimal distortion on your normal map you would still have to use another projection than any of the ones used for world maps.
but if i apply different projections from my normal map and the world map, how do i convert them back and forth?
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they could, but usually local maps aren't cut out of the world map. it would look strange, for example, alaska in the mollweide map. alaska seems stretched out, but i like to imagine my national map as having minimal distortion due to the small part of the globe it fills.
Yes, so you apply anothet projection as I said. There's no difference between using a strange projection on the world map or your normal map. And if you want absolutely minimal distortion on your normal map you would still have to use another projection than any of the ones used for world maps.
but if i apply different projections from my normal map and the world map, how do i convert them back and forth?
With fiah blagic program (http://geol.hu/data/online_help/Converting_Map_Projections.html).
Google it. (https://www.google.com.br/search?q=map+type+converter&oq=map+type+converter&sugexp=chrome,mod=14&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=pt-BR&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=map+projection+converter&oq=map+projection+converter&gs_l=serp.3..0i19j0i30i19.23267.25714.2.26134.11.11.0.0.0.6.272.2730.2-11.11.0...0.0...1c.1.TAx0Sl0TKww&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=c7d29fc65403362a&biw=1024&bih=600)
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cool, will do.
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bump
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Can someone put Nausikkak on here? (preferrably with new SKA borders)
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bump
I need Nausikkak so that I can do things this break.
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bump
I need Nausikkak so that I can do things this break.
Make it yourself :P
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>fall break
>what
>then i remember
>private school have thank give break
>*hasasad*
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actually this thing is new
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bump
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bumping this every day until someone does it
and every 4 days it's not done I'll bump it 2^x times
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since i can't be half-assed to do what nue wants, have this instead:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/45288313/NationStates/himalia_smallcontinent_elevation.png)
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several things:
1. It should be noncolored; the color layer should be seperate.
2. text should be on a seperate layer, or the same layer as the color, idk.
3. enlarge the bla/nue/dar continent
4. shrink hellpotatoe's thing a bit
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Nausikkak must proportion.
Maybe bla should do it.
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bla's day:
24-8 sleep
8-16 blacraft mapping
16-24 ns mapping
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Bla is very good at ordering things and setting standards so he could standardize layers by posting an xcf and a png
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well there are several options i think.
1. gimp layers (not familiar with gimp but if everyone wants i can cope with it)
2. paint.net layers (paint.net is slow, so don't especially like but i can cope with it)
3. seperate pngs (seperate files are a bit cumbersome but otherwise the best solution)
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therefore gimp
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therefore seperate pngs
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therefore gimp
I'll possibly try to maybe do it later today if I might have time which I also might not but it probably takes a lot of time to enlarge the things. I guess.
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ok done with the aeridanish empire !!!!
Give me back ma nations or I'm going.
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You can have your weird shaped occupied one, but the two on that island are still going to be vassals of puppets, or that island as a whole gets deleted
You wanna a anarchist nation and a psychotic dictadorship where people speak in a very strange language?
You can only delete your part of the map, not mine.
Edit - Well, this map should be a map of the community, but it seems that fiah once again became the dictator that modifies the nations of others without permission just because he wants to. I'm going, remove my nations.
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Ummm... Fiah you've drawn borders with different colors inside them, you've made striped areas, we've never set up any rules for that, and I will not spend my time removing the colors inside the nations just because people are too lazy to use layers, which ironically will save us loads of time if we want control over what we want to show on the maps.
I honestly don't know how to deal with what you've drawn, so I'll try to add Nausikkak to Hellpotatoe's map from page 6.
Also, if we could have the national colors in a transparent layer like in my original GIMP file instead of merging it onto the map it would make things like a million times easier. So I have ignored the national colors in Hellpotatoe's second map so far, but can probably add them later.
Also, if you're trying to dictate Hellpotatoe's nations now, please learn from the past, we're getting really tired of it.
Also, could we set up a poll for whether we want to use GIMP or Paint.net for the different layers?
Editing the map currently.
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But this isn't a roleplaying thread, it's a thread for deciding how our maps should look, and your imaginary nukes are worth nothing here. You cannot "heavily influence" other people's countries on the map if they do not accept it.
Edit: Ok I put Nausikkak on the map. Haven't drawn the borders yet, but I can do that. But is this the size you wanted? Also, I will change Blaist Blaland, so don't worry too much about it. I'll probably make it smaller and enlarge Redbow.
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Maybe if those nations weren't north koreas I wouldn't have to!
Ok, let's just ignore whether they are North Koreas, I don't think they are, but it doesn't matter. You apparently did not read what I wrote. Let me make it more clear:
You
cannot
"heavily influence" other people's countries on the map if they do not accept it.
And Hellpotatoe, please don't leave because of this, just ignore it if Fiah edits your nations. He has no right to do that.
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Maybe if those nations weren't north koreas I wouldn't have to!
Ok, let's just ignore whether they are North Koreas, I don't think they are, but it doesn't matter. You apparently did not read what I wrote. Let me make it more clear:
Free Lands of Free Freedom are a small anarcho-capitalist nation, that have no influence or power.
Potato Lands : They live in underground houses and have rules to not eat vegetaBLAs (they're are sorta of vegetaBLAs :P). They only be classified as psychotic dictatorship because of their way of doing things is very strange/different.
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And Hellpotatoe, please don't leave because of this, just ignore it if Fiah edits your nations. He has no right to do that.
Ok. Taken to recreation :P
Edit- Given (Naw i have only Potato Lands, FLFF, New Issamoria, Nea Issablaria and Neo Issalosia)
I makes the normal map, the nashunal colors map and a paint.net file with the two in different layers.
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I need to change SKA on here still but thanks bla for putting old nausikkak on that makes it a lot easier
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paint.net is laggy when working with large objects, i think the two best options are gimp and seperate pngs. i prefer pngs but am fine with both.
new poll up in the spreadsheet (at the bottom of all the others): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE#gid=0
i don't know why fiah took his column out for no reason, and i don't feel like fixing it, so just use the last column or whatever.
also taken.
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*not taken anymore*
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I vote for separeted pngs to make it easier to everybody
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I vote for separeted pngs to make it easier to everybody
Hey, why I can't edit the spreadsh i t? :(
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I vote for separeted pngs to make it easier to everybody
Doesn't make it easier for me. :P
You know, it will require enormous amounts of extra work if we keep the images seperate. We will have to do lots of things twice/multiple times.
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I vote for separeted pngs to make it easier to everybody
Doesn't make it easier for me. :P
You know, it will require enormous amounts of extra work if we keep the images seperate. We will have to do lots of things twice/multiple times.
I Changes Votes To Paint.Net
kol, strangewayofwrite.bat
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well i don't imagine it'll be that hard as you describe. first we finish the base layer of borders in black and white. then everyone can download the finished image and we can start with a second image with colors by doing it in a new layer on top of the old one. i imagine it'll only be a few seconds more to copy and paste the color layer onto a blank image before saving.
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saving multiple pngs is kind of stupid especially if you upload every single one. If we had one xcf file that had a normal coastline and land-fill layer, national color layer, national text layer, internal border layer, internal division (provinces, municipalities, w/e) text layer, river layer, elevation layer, etc. That would be a ton easier. You would have ONE file open, not 20 instances open to copy/paste from.
Layers are really useful it would be a crime to refuse to use them to our advantage.
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but we don't need to upload every single one because we only work on one at a time. and you only need to work on one at a time.
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that's hard to argue against I guess but I'm still going for GIMP
otherwise I guess I'm fine with pngs
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no just flood imgur with thousands of maps of our world
summary of fiahpee:
fiahpee has joined the game.
fiahpee <3 arrogance
fiahpee ->pew-> kallisto
mudkipz ->pew-> aeridani
fiahpee ->pew-> kallisto
mudkipz ->pew-> aeridani
fiahpee ->pew-> kallisto
mudkipz ->pew-> aeridani
blabla44 -> pew -> fiahpee
mudkipz -> pew -> fiahpee
arrogance -> pew -> fiahpee
*several months pass*
darvince -> pew -> fiahpee
mudkipz -> pew -> fiahpee
blabla44 -> pew -> fiahpee
fiahpee -> pew -> everyone
hellpotatoe has joined the game.
fiahpee -> pew -> hellpotatoe
hellpotatoe -> pew -> fiahpee
fiahpee -> pew -> hellpotatoe
blabla44 -> pew -> fiahpee
darvince -> pew -> fiahpee
fiahpee has left the game.
Fiahowl, if you need a reminder, look at the first post. IT CLEARLY STATES YOU HAVE NO SPECIAL PERMISSIONS TO EDIT OTHERS' NATIONS.
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FIAHOWL.
YOU HAVE NO PERMISSION TO EDIT HELLPOTATOE'S NATIONS.
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Fiah stop acting like a 5 year old, seriously.
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thread underailed... i hope
hellpotatoe i'll put your vote in.
paint.net is laggy when working with large objects, i think the two best options are gimp and seperate pngs. i prefer pngs but am fine with both.
new poll up in the spreadsheet (at the bottom of all the others): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE#gid=0
i don't know why fiah took his column out for no reason, and i don't feel like fixing it, so just use the last column or whatever.
also taken.
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Fiah stop acting like a 5 year old, seriously.
inb4 born on 29 of feb.
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someone can help prettify the borders of the northern island/continent. kallisto is attached with the correct amount of distortion applied.
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edit: don't touch the northern border until i redo it toommorow
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will hellpotatoe and fiah please desize their nations? nar, matty, smjjames, and bong need to fit in their nations as well.
ok, nausikkak and himalia are 78% of their previous size. they should be 10/14 of their previous size.
this version may be a bit ugly, but it is mathematically perfect using truncation. diagonals are 2.83 pixels.
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I should ask Shmoopy if I can just map Shmupland for him.
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but we don't need to upload every single one because we only work on one at a time. and you only need to work on one at a time.
Happy pointlessly waiting for me to finish a "perfect" map of Blaland then, because I don't expect to do that in the near future, and waiting for that would be pointless, plus I may want to edit it in the future.
I don't get this part. What are you talking about... ?
Not to mention you could make an xcf with like 20 layers and then paste them on the seperate pngs if that happens to be consensus.
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well blaland will still be roughly a large rectangle with a ratio of 2 vertical:3 horizontal, though, right?
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here is officialSKA
attached base xcf to do things with
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kolok we're going gimp then.
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fffff darvince you keep moving nausikak away from kallisto :P
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We're going to do whatever the majorty votes for, I assume?
well blaland will still be roughly a large rectangle with a ratio of 2 vertical:3 horizontal, though, right?
No idea yet, why?
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so i can do climates for the cat nations and such
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speaking of cats, read the xkcd whatif.
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about the fonts:
we could have a layer with any font and one with a standardized font.
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yes
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done
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a little distortion, but nothign too bad. i'll the north continent later
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i shall map my other 3 nations when I get done with hw
also 208
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what a satellite image from Nausikkak-2 (DRVS) would look like.
(located over 0N/S 45E from a meridian near extreme west Blaland)
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>"darvincia and ska are ommited"
and then they are included in the png
do you into making sense?
also
"[06:57.44] <+Naru523> someone should post on forums that my nations won't be on the official map"
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kolyes i imploded
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we have an econ but it doesn't matter to anyone else because it doesn't involve anyone else so yeah
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hi mr. supadoopernationalist
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It's called being an economic autarky thanks, get it right.
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hi mr. supadooperisolationist
In my case, I think we are "supadooperisolationist" too.
If we try to compete in the global economy,w'll just have to lose.
I think the countries of Iz-Lato only has an economy with each other, and only import SOME products from certain nations.
I guess the same goes for export.
Tip=Find the 3 acronyms!
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Oh swell :I
Now where will I import all my Issamorian chocolate from!
Blaland
Issamoria, duh :P
and only export SOME products from certain nations.
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Can someone add my nation to the map? Call it NFR Newly Formed Republic
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no
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(Think of a blend of Monarchist America, North Korea, and Sweden)
NOPENOPENOPENOPE NO THANKS
also is that even possible?
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wrongthread.drl
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thats what i'm asking you!
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why are there so many humanoids/intelligent species
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ok here is the thing; gimp should not be the program we use the manage layers and stuff.
gimp can't even draw 2 pixel lines.
so unless anyone has a way to draw 2 pixel lines easily/has better idea, we'll just switch to either seperate pngs or paint.net
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path tool
and I'm not downloading paint.NET I know how to use GIMP and use it frequently. I tried paint.NET before a while ago anyway I didn't like it.
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path tool cannot freedraw, and i don't want to make 5000 clicks to draw out every pixel with path tool.
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and I'm not downloading paint.NET I know how to use GIMP and use it frequently. I tried paint.NET before a while ago anyway I didn't like it.
probably fiah feels exactly opposite of that.
i like paint.net more because i use it frequently and know most of the ins and outs. Compared to photoshop, gimp seems to have less shortcut keys.
in gimp, selections are confusing because they are not highlighted to let you know they are present. also zoom in and out don't work for me which makes it very difficult to work with gimp efficiently. paint bucket and magic want lack continous/discontiuous functions which i use a lot. < even paint.net can do that.
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anyways here is the file.
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is there an xcf-type file paint.net uses, or can it read xcfs (maybe it has a plug-in, or maybe gimp has a plugin for paint.NET's file type)? The former would partially solve issues, the latter would be the best.
for remembering: ematulnosout goammdi
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i found nothing of the sort. However, i think gimp opens psd (photoshop), and you can open psd on paint.net with a plugin. also i use photoshop so that is convenient too.
well, that sounds like a nice solution.
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um yeah no. I've had a psd corrupt with GIMP. Not fun at all.
No way to recover it.
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um yeah no. I've had a psd corrupt with GIMP. Not fun at all.
No way to recover it.
well how often is the corruption? you can always just save frequently and revert back to the last save if this one is corrupted.
fiah, .pdn cannot be opened with gimp so we're not using it.
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aha so that's what I was asking for. idk if paint.NET has plugins or not, but GIMP does for sure. I can check if there's a pdn plugin for GIMP.
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paint.net have many plugin :)
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i did a search and didn't find any but i wasn't too thourough.
"aha so that's what I was asking for"
what?
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I was asking what file type paint.NET had that it uses that is like xcf.
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http://telegraphics.com.au/sw/product/psd2xcf#psd2xcf (http://telegraphics.com.au/sw/product/psd2xcf#psd2xcf)
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fiah, .pdn cannot be opened with gimp so we're not using it.
.xcf cannot be opened with paint.net so I'm not using it.
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(Think of a blend of Monarchist America, North Korea, and Sweden)
NO, WE MUST MAKE AERIDANI A PUPPET BECAUSE NORTH KOREA! D:
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ok here is the thing; gimp should not be the program we use the manage layers and stuff.
gimp can't even draw 2 pixel lines.
so unless anyone has a way to draw 2 pixel lines easily/has better idea, we'll just switch to either seperate pngs or paint.net
Pencil
Square 20x20
Scale 0.12.
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ok here is the thing; gimp should not be the program we use the manage layers and stuff.
gimp can't even draw 2 pixel lines.
so unless anyone has a way to draw 2 pixel lines easily/has better idea, we'll just switch to either seperate pngs or paint.net
Pencil
Square 20x20
Scale 0.12.
OMG, DANISWEDISH WORDS D:
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ok here is the thing; gimp should not be the program we use the manage layers and stuff.
gimp can't even draw 2 pixel lines.
so unless anyone has a way to draw 2 pixel lines easily/has better idea, we'll just switch to either seperate pngs or paint.net
Pencil
Square 20x20
Scale 0.12.
KOLOK SO GENIUS!
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fiahowl post the gimp file
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you know the black and white squares? yeah. click those.
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fiahowl post the gimp file
fiahowl post the gimp file
fiahowl post the gimp file
fiahowl post the gimp file
fiahowl post the gimp file
fiahowl post the gimp file
so i can edit it.
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go copy the png from the image onto the gimp image mudkipz
yes and maybe i'll start uploading psd's here for you to decode.
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>47 seconds left
>uses time to post image rather than uploading file.
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you should tell your dad that you've watched him pirate everything on his computer.
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so you're saying I used the time to post an image instead of posting an image...? I'm lost
don't act stupid.
no i want you to upload the gimp file, and you decided instead of uploading the file so other people can work on it, you decided to use the time to show us all how you ran out of time.
yeah so i'm working on the map. the gimp file version.
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because fiha does not have gimp on his momhugger computer and cannot install it
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i don't care if you don't like using it; we voted to use gimp/xcf file format, you can use paint.net, but put it back into xcf at the end !
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in the newer version of gimp the scale brush tool is non existant so i can't even do that trick that bla pulled of. this is wasting too much time; full speed ahead with 3 pixel borders; someone can thin them out if they want to.
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*********** you gimp
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updayt
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inb4 2341900 pixel thick
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kallisto is wacky, a bit, but i'm done.
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Kol haven't been checking up on updates for GIMP.
But Mudkipz, I recommend you explore GIMP a little if you can't find something, there are really a lot of tools. :P Here I use a brush which is a 2x2 square in GIMP 2.8.2. It took me less than 5 minutes to find.
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what
what
what
what
what
what
what
i have exact same settings and my brush jumps from 1 to 3
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Did you choose the "Pixel" brush instead of "Pixel (1x1) square" maybe?
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kolyes, how to get pixel (1x1) square?
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OH OK I SEE NOW figure it out.
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also hp I have a plateposal for the oceana grande and the aeridanilands
Ok...
Hey, fiah, kan you remake my borders? Only keep them in this size, i made them fast because i have no time to this :P
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he only productives when it is within 10 minutes of his comp shutting off
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Well, I'll download the unnecessarily complex gimp.
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fiah i suggest you widen your detail up there. the coast looks very jagged.
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universe sandbox isn't distorting it; the map projection is whacked up.
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*sikkel*
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shouldn't the layers be for extra things like elevation and not for basic things? like internal should stay a layer but national borders should not be a separate layer.
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um if the national borders were on the same layer as land/sea/coastline then you would have a fun time filling in the land to be a different color wouldn't you? exactly.
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i'd rather have a fun time filling in continents than a hard time filling in nations
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i'd rather have a fun time filling in continents than a hard time filling in nations
national: right-click -> merge down (onto coastline layer)
fill
export png
done
so hard
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http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacewardetect.php (http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacewardetect.php)
interesting, but couldn't you have a small autonomous spacecraft launched out of a mass driver at maybe 0.1C or something?
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darvince whythefuck did you merge the land borders and the coastlines in naussikak
because i was fixing the fucking coastline fucking cunt
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but that has nothing to do with the land borders kthx no one told you to merge them and now you can't unmerge them if you need to do such things great job!
^ why they were seperate layers in the first place
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but swearing is funnier
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guide to properly distorting landmasses so they look normal:
first, split your landmass into horizontal slices. if you're north of 40 degrees latitude i suggest 3 or 4 sections. Make more sections nearer the poles
so like this:
-pole
| all section 1
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| all section 2
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| all section 3
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-equator
etc.
then, you will need to know the y positions of the tops and bottoms of all your new slices/sections.
F=1024/sqrt(1024^2-d^2)
d is the distance from a point to the equator of the map.
you fine F and then
(guide tbc tommorow).
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ARGH! I can't edit this on gimp, someone kan make new borders to my nations, please?
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Or someone can remove my nations and put this? (resize it :P)
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matty will you add your nation?
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Since Darv was too lazy to do this the past... week or two...
Wow that took like 5 minutes. Also I unmerged the national borders!
Well except for over in Aeridaniland or whatever it is. I'm too lazy to bother.
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kol
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This is ma official map
Can someone put it on the map?
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what latitude do you want the top at
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I want the top a little above the equator
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Nice weather disruptors you have there. Have fun with your wacky eddies and rain shadows and stuff.
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Electric disturbances. I have no idea what that'd do to the atmosphere downwind. This is in addition to the eddies and rain shadows.
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yes well whenever i want weather disturbances i throw 50 ton spheres of aerogel.
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Basin defining borders for the eastern hemisphere 30E to 135E.
The longitudinal lines should be correct, but the lateral ones are messed up due to the curvature of Earth (the main reason Mercator is a legitimate projection: the shortest path from one point to another point on the same latitude is NOT the latitude line connecting them)
In any case, as defined for all RSMCs defined by the Nausikkak Meteorological Collaboration, regional responsibility extends north so long as there is no other RSMC responsible for the region north of the subject region. Regions also extend inland regardless of regional responsibility, especially in cases where the affected nation is involved outside of it's area of responsibility.
There are definitely plans for the dissolution of most Akolenal Sea AORs.
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no there are not
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well in Auspikitan there are and they will probably bring it up every annual meeting of the NMC. Also the plan does not involve the dissolution of any national responsibility at all, only official cyclone tracking would go to one or two nations.
Also does every nation use different scales because if so I can just imagine the extreme impossibility of tracking that basin.
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Iz-Lato is naw Ezheatio
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the average ns regional map (selected completely randomly)
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/metspelf34/UrceaMapIxnaycopy.png (http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/metspelf34/UrceaMapIxnaycopy.png)
http://i.imgur.com/l9ph7.png (http://i.imgur.com/l9ph7.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img838/1765/tychromemap.jpg (http://imageshack.us/a/img838/1765/tychromemap.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/djXAC.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/djXAC.jpg)
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff407/allyboy2/TheCommonwealthofKings_zps84b8db87.png (http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff407/allyboy2/TheCommonwealthofKings_zps84b8db87.png)
http://i.imgur.com/cllI8.png (http://i.imgur.com/cllI8.png)
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k570/greatkingston/NS%20Stuff/NatalPoliticalMap.png (http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k570/greatkingston/NS%20Stuff/NatalPoliticalMap.png)
and these are probably the better ones; they came up in search first
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also i think we should consider angular resolution important. currently the angular resolution for most parts of nausikakk are about 0.008 radians, (east nueland is more like 0.02 radians).
kallisto is about 0.008 radians
potatoeland is also about 0.02 radians and fiahland varies between 0.007 and 0.012 radians.
artic fiahland is about 0.004 radians and artic neutraland is about 0.016 radians.
i think we should make the standard from 0.005 to 0.01 radians, preferably 0.008 radians, no more and no less, so that the mapp doesn't look like a clash of high and low resolution merges, which it is atm :P
i'll put up a poll later
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angular resolution is the smallest area you can tell.
(http://startswithabang.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/cmb_wmapandcobe.jpg)
top is low angular resolution
bottom is high angular resolution
now if we mixed those too together it'd look pretty ugly.
to determine angular resolution on an equirectangular map, you can do this:
select a random point on a border
make an imaginary circle around it, and pretend you can't see anything outside of it
slowly expand circle from 0 pixels radius to A pixels radius.
you stop expanding the circle when you can tell that the line is turning/is not just a straight line
2A is the amount of pixels
since 2A pixels is just an arc on a sphere/circle, you need to find the circumference. At the equator, the circumferemce is 4096, and at the poles, the circumference is 0. there is an equation that can tell you how many pixels the circumference has
2A/4096 or 2A/1293 or however many pixels
multiply that by 2*pi to convert from percent to angle
there you go, angular resolution.
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oh this is the equation
C=4*sqrt(1048576-d^2)
where d is the distance from the equator, C is the circumference of the circle
all units in pixels
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how much is himalia
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0.008 radians
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also i think we should consider angular resolution important. currently the angular resolution for most parts of nausikakk are about 0.008 radians, (east nueland is more like 0.02 radians).
kallisto is about 0.008 radians
potatoeland is also about 0.02 radians and fiahland varies between 0.007 and 0.012 radians.
artic fiahland is about 0.004 radians and artic neutraland is about 0.016 radians.
i think we should make the standard from 0.005 to 0.01 radians, preferably 0.008 radians, no more and no less, so that the mapp doesn't look like a clash of high and low resolution merges, which it is atm :P
i'll put up a poll later
angular resolution is the smallest area you can tell.
(http://startswithabang.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/cmb_wmapandcobe.jpg)
top is low angular resolution
bottom is high angular resolution
now if we mixed those too together it'd look pretty ugly.
to determine angular resolution on an equirectangular map, you can do this:
select a random point on a border
make an imaginary circle around it, and pretend you can't see anything outside of it
slowly expand circle from 0 pixels radius to A pixels radius.
you stop expanding the circle when you can tell that the line is turning/is not just a straight line
2A is the amount of pixels
since 2A pixels is just an arc on a sphere/circle, you need to find the circumference. At the equator, the circumferemce is 4096, and at the poles, the circumference is 0. there is an equation that can tell you how many pixels the circumference has
2A/4096 or 2A/1293 or however many pixels
multiply that by 2*pi to convert from percent to angle
there you go, angular resolution.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE#gid=0
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swonx could i move aiota to the east a bit so that it's nearer hellpotatoe's land, then i can attach an isthmus to and create a continent.
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swonx could i move aiota to the east a bit so that it's nearer hellpotatoe's land, then i can attach an isthmus to and create a continent.
No, because thats not ma official nashuns
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Fixin'
Edit-Fixed
Edit2- Fixed Again''
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE#gid=0
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Layers format
I vote: paint.net
angular resolution
minumum limit:
I vote: 0.07
maximum limit:
I vote: 0.1
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KOLOK added
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also i think we should consider angular resolution important. currently the angular resolution for most parts of nausikakk are about 0.008 radians, (east nueland is more like 0.02 radians).
kallisto is about 0.008 radians
potatoeland is also about 0.02 radians and fiahland varies between 0.007 and 0.012 radians.
artic fiahland is about 0.004 radians and artic neutraland is about 0.016 radians.
i think we should make the standard from 0.005 to 0.01 radians, preferably 0.008 radians, no more and no less, so that the mapp doesn't look like a clash of high and low resolution merges, which it is atm :P
i'll put up a poll later
angular resolution is the smallest area you can tell.
(http://startswithabang.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/cmb_wmapandcobe.jpg)
top is low angular resolution
bottom is high angular resolution
now if we mixed those too together it'd look pretty ugly.
to determine angular resolution on an equirectangular map, you can do this:
select a random point on a border
make an imaginary circle around it, and pretend you can't see anything outside of it
slowly expand circle from 0 pixels radius to A pixels radius.
you stop expanding the circle when you can tell that the line is turning/is not just a straight line
2A is the amount of pixels
since 2A pixels is just an arc on a sphere/circle, you need to find the circumference. At the equator, the circumferemce is 4096, and at the poles, the circumference is 0. there is an equation that can tell you how many pixels the circumference has
2A/4096 or 2A/1293 or however many pixels
multiply that by 2*pi to convert from percent to angle
there you go, angular resolution.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE#gid=0 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE#gid=0)
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people you must use the gimp file
fiahowl can i or you turn that ugly half-island in south aeridani into an island with nonstraight sides since it doesn't look like it will be completed
hellpotatoe can i shrink your land which is currently about the size of sagualand, darvincia, and ska combined
swonx can i move your island a bit to the east.
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also i think we should consider angular resolution important. currently the angular resolution for most parts of nausikakk are about 0.008 radians, (east nueland is more like 0.02 radians).
kallisto is about 0.008 radians
potatoeland is also about 0.02 radians and fiahland varies between 0.007 and 0.012 radians.
artic fiahland is about 0.004 radians and artic neutraland is about 0.016 radians.
i think we should make the standard from 0.005 to 0.01 radians, preferably 0.008 radians, no more and no less, so that the mapp doesn't look like a clash of high and low resolution merges, which it is atm :P
i'll put up a poll later
angular resolution is the smallest area you can tell.
(http://startswithabang.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/cmb_wmapandcobe.jpg)
top is low angular resolution
bottom is high angular resolution
now if we mixed those too together it'd look pretty ugly.
to determine angular resolution on an equirectangular map, you can do this:
select a random point on a border
make an imaginary circle around it, and pretend you can't see anything outside of it
slowly expand circle from 0 pixels radius to A pixels radius.
you stop expanding the circle when you can tell that the line is turning/is not just a straight line
2A is the amount of pixels
since 2A pixels is just an arc on a sphere/circle, you need to find the circumference. At the equator, the circumferemce is 4096, and at the poles, the circumference is 0. there is an equation that can tell you how many pixels the circumference has
2A/4096 or 2A/1293 or however many pixels
multiply that by 2*pi to convert from percent to angle
there you go, angular resolution.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE#gid=0 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE#gid=0)
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OK OK I fixed Aeri's angular resolution now shut the fuck up
Also I made a pdn with seperate borders and coastline layer
Kan you improve ma borders? :P
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sure
Thanks bro :)
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:)
Kol?
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added voting column in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE#gid=0 for swonx
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G class: 3 say yes and smjjames primary vote
K class: 4 say yes and smjjames secondary vote
K class wins.
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>highways through "the land of ghouls" mfw
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G class: 3 say yes and smjjames primary vote
K class: 4 say yes and smjjames secondary vote
K class wins.
G: 4
K: 4.5
which means we must K0-K2
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no secondary is not necessary 0.5 or whatever. secondary is worth the same amount of primary but if there is a tie then primary is worth more.
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requesting for hellpotatoe to desize his region to 50-55% of current size
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requesting for hellpotatoe to desize his region to 50-55% of current size
No, when i make this it become smaller than blaland (or no)
I accept 60-70 % kol
Tell this to fiah, he will make ma maps naw 8)
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wt fiah makes your mapps?
fiah requesting to desize your vassal state hellpotatoe's lands to 55-60% of current size
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wt fiah makes your mapps?
fiah requesting to desize your vassal state hellpotatoe's lands to 55-60% of current size
KOL
it's because i kan't map very well :P
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i'll do it; if you ask fiah he'll put the file on a pdn and we'll have gotten nowhere.
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you had better appreciate this because i spend the last 3 hours looking for a single typo to fix this. measures distance in ns map. (spheres are tricky)
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i do not ap pre ci ate it
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i do not ap pre ci ate it be cause my com pu ter does nt al low me to run py thon
fix ed
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wt fiah makes your mapps?
fiah requesting to desize your vassal state hellpotatoe's lands to 55-60% of current size
I desized to 65% and get this
I WILL NO BLACCEPT
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no that is excellent except redo borders to 2px please
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west usforum map: a sea of homogenously sized and shaped islands
east usforum map: koltinents
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no that is excellent except redo borders to 2px please
ARGH, OK, TAKEN
west usforum map: a sea of homogenously sized and shaped islands
east usforum map: koltinents
I BLAME DARVINCE >:(
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hm i might make loviniosa between Aeridani and Kallisto
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west usforum map: a sea of homogenously sized and shaped islands
east usforum map: koltinents
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yay i get a shield
yes because i have to travel on land and water and in a straight line.
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except that we wouldn't be in a retarded war
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I'll just blockade the ocean areas, and bielosia will cream the ass of your troops
>kol because i have a navy
>kol because i have an army
[/sarcarm]
(only nukes in kallisto)
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aeridani: balancing out the nationalism and imperialism in the world since 1260AD
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You people wanna than Ezheatio turns in a bunch of islands?
You get it :(
BUT NAW I DECLARE CAPITALISM!!11!1
>:( >:( >:(
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why do fiah+hellpotatoe+swonx have 60% of the globe
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why do fiah+hellpotatoe+swonx have 60% of the globe
Because we can
Because we have 30 % of teh land on our ISLANDS your continentalists
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ok time to dot the land between kallisto and himalia with 1000+ islands jk
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ok time to dot the land between kallisto and himalia with 1000+ islands jk
I CLAIM 300 OF THEM TO MAH KAPITALIST PEOPLE!!11!1!
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never
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ever
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Guys you should try merging nations with a few others! It would help with space.
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taken
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distortion of himlia is near mathematically accurate and it should look normal on the globe now
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Your nation is like from 5S to 45S, you have tropics and temperate places.
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Actually your northernmost point is like the equator.
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It's a map of the whole planet in equirectangular projection. the top is 90N, the bottom is 90S.
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How come the ocean and stuff on the maps on page 17 became filled with borders again and in pdn format now that 4 vs 2 voted to use GIMP layers?
If I post a map with 6px borders will you also continue on that one?
With that said, nice islands Hellpotatoe.
But I really think you shold follow the rules we voted on. It's not our job to move your layers into GIMP just because you're too lazy to follow the rules we even decided by polls.
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How come the ocean and stuff on the maps on page 17 became filled with borders again and in pdn format now that 4 vs 2 voted to use GIMP layers?
If I post a map with 6px borders will you also continue on that one?
With that said, nice islands Hellpotatoe.
But I really think you shold follow the rules we voted on. It's not our job to move your layers into GIMP just because you're too lazy to follow the rules we even decided by polls.
Thanks ;)
I don't have gimp, it doesn't work in this shitty pc ._.
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no.
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It works on my fail laptop.
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It works on my fail laptop.
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It works on my fail desktop.
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It works on my school's computers.
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This is one of ma school computers
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naru and matty and smjjames please teleport your sugging nations to this map
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matty said he would do it before the world ends so the deadline is 12/20/12 i guess.
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wut is land of ghouls then
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1 px = ?km²
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100
or do you mean on faihmapp
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100
or do you mean on faihmapp
originahmahpp
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1px = 10km
or
1px = 100km²
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Hey guys, since we have a star can we name it?
Because i came up with a good name "Oquanazon XI"
I would never call our sun of 'Sun XI'
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Besides, different languages and cultures have different names; like Sol in Spanish for example.
english = Sun
spanish/portuguese = Sol
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1px = 10km
or
1px = 100km²
at the equator.
to clarify:
the vertical side of the pixel will always be 10 km
the horizontal side of the pixel at the equator is 10km
at the poles it is 0km
where d is the distance of the pixel from the equator in pixels;
the horizontal side of a pixel is sqrt(1024^2-d^2)/1024 kilometers long
the area of a pixel at the equator is 100km^2
the area of a pixel at the poles is 0km^2
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uhhh
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because equirectangular distortion
you should be pleased the formulas for equirectangular distortion are sensible compared to other projections
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A VERY zoomed map of Ezheatio :3
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bump
how did this into second page fff
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(kallisto does not recognized fiah's north pole claim) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Antarctica)
edit: i have been making too many soviet jokes recently
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(himalia does not recognize nazi fiah's north pole claim) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Antarctica)
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in soviet kallisto we will collapse the ice-shelf with nukes and float away your non-claim
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COOL THAT SHOULD BE AN XKCD WHAT IF i'm submitting it along with a copy of the map.
although there will be no soil or anything but rock :P
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...and in soviet kallisto we cut the kolokian peninsula loose from the plate and then add a propeller so we can drive around the ocean
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Quit breaking the forum people :P
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is that better
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no
apparently to darvinces 'no' means 'yes, do it later'
yes it does
this shud work
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distortion of himlia is near mathematically accurate and it should look normal on the globe now
bump
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ok. can i join?
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yes everyone that has an idea for a nation and is on usforums may join
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why the hell is all the discussion moving to ns map/roleplay
this is the thread for the mapp
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mudkipz observe what you have done to the himalia coastline >:(
it's all blurry and shit (zoomed in to 800%, opened in gimp)
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A preliminary version thing of the Nausikkak Meteorological Collaboration official declarations/definitions. It has lists, region declarations, etc,.
If anyone wants anything changed I can do that.
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change the list of himalian storms to a google spreadsheet link here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqSvCC8xs0NzdEZZR1VaUGs2U0J0REhXc1YxMGVaa0E#gid=0
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I'd rather type it in there for offline purposes.
Also maybe if you're making seven lists just have all of the himalian region use the same list? (Including N Serkr)
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no there's seven lists for akolenal sea but then there's 100 different names from N Serkr (25 saguan, 50 himalian language, 25 whatever-the-hell aeridani speaks)
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7 lists of 21 names... 147 names for 4 storm seasons?
Maybe it should be the reverse?
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wait what it's 4 storm season? you calc'd it? or did you just randomly declare it?
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Cyclone season demos.
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fixing himalia
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fixed
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Cyclone season demos.
Make this to me please.
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kol why is akolenal sea just derpressions
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kalassak i think north serkr ocean might be more active depending on how much of kallisto is iced over by the polar continent
and south serkr ocean is probably like WPAC
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progress of loviniosa mapp
(http://i.imgur.com/UBbrl.png)
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kalassak i think north serkr ocean might be more active depending on how much of kallisto is iced over by the polar continent
and south serkr ocean is probably like WPAC
ow not cute??????
kol why is akolenal sea just derpressions
that's "weak cyclone" on the NMC scale (less than hurricane force)
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update #2
(http://i.imgur.com/i4Zn1.png)
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ok i have decided that we need to shrink all the landmasses.
lovini to 65%, ezheatio to 55%, faihpeeland to 65%
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ok i have decided that we need to shrink all the landmasses.
lovini to 65%, ezheatio to 55%, faihpeeland to 65%
NO.
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Southern cyclone season demos. And I've already made like 2 season maps of the Nausikkak Sea, so...
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yeah it's here:
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@hellpotatoe, well i'm not demanding it i'm just requesting it because the mapp is super crowded now. naru said that lovini can only be moved down like 10 pixels because ezheatio is right there.
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split the world map in half the east shall be the continentalists and the west shall be the islandists. lovinsia come quick and become one with me
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[/quote]Can someone give me the new map so i can add the rest of Aiota?
yeah it's here:
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to name the continents:
kallisto & northern continent: Kolokia
skabladar: nausikak? am i speel it rite
himalia: himalia
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nausikkak
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I can't get gimp working so can someone put this on?
We can put REAL koltinents in the map?
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Do we have to go though this again...
It's not really a real koltinent!!!
/me runs
but it's irl, you need of make your nation yourself (or let other ppl make it)
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I did some current stuff now lazy people or people who didn't want to deal with currents can work out their climate.
If anyone wants to prettyfy it and rename some of the warm and cold currents then go ahead.
Disclaimer: I am not a currentologist. Some things might be messed up actually. Not fundamentally (so no warms and colds going the wrong direction entirely), but would be awkward if on a real planet.
<Kalassak> yeah ezheatio cyclones are probably a really stunted basin
<Kalassak> like EPAC, but less storms per season
<Kalassak> aiotan are probably more forced toward the coast
<Kalassak> both Serkr seasons look really good
<Kalassak> Northern leaning toward ATL and Southern leaning toward WPAC
<Kalassak> Aeridani looks like it might be really favorable, something like a northern version of the South Serkr
<Kalassak> and Sea of Sovk is a stunted ATL
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kol @ who knows
my guess is that there's no currents there other than a weak equatorial counter
wait wtf happened to the islands off himalia
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kol @ who knows
my guess is that there's no currents there other than a weak equatorial counter
yeah that was my thinking
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also that's an old mapp. hellpotatoe's lands are more unified now.
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also that's an old mapp. hellpotatoe's lands are more unified now.
I thought it was the other way around... -.-
Um.....
what if there was land in that Aiotan warm- Ezheatio cold circle because....
This is my new official map (Can't get gimp working)
doesn't change it much, you just have a gyre in the southeast area
mapupdate
I shall update the currents now.
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what the fuck lovini is huge
guys seriously we can't keep making our nations the exact same size as they used to be because otherwise the map will be more than full
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matty should totally throw ethanthova between loviniosa and kallisto with the permission of naru and kip
and current updates
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yeah I know I just typed it wrong (twice apparently) without noticing... I typed it on the IRC as Aiota(n).
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won't the himalian islands affect the currents
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Here we go:
Official tropical cyclone seasons demo. Colored by "basin"
Idk, the Aeridanish is probably way more active than that. I'd need some more information than currents. I'd have to go into a ton of weather stuff, so if fiah wants to do anything to do with cyclones, he can do whatever. :P
Overall...
Major basins:
North Serkr
South Serkr
Aeridanish region
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wouldn't they spawn all the way from loviniosa to the coast of himalia
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I'm thinking west of the aeridanish islands activity really drops (like CPAC) because that's the center of the gyre (kind of...) and there's a bit of a cold current coming south there. But yeah, it probably extends further east to Loviniosa.
That basin could be partitioned between Loviniosa and Aeridani, or could all go to Aeridani.
Where the Aiotan/Ezheatio division is, they can suggest something or I could just make it.
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or I could just make it.
matty should totally throw ethanthova between loviniosa and kallisto with the permission of naru and kip
and current updates
YOU STILL USING OLD EZHEATIO MAPS >:( >:( >:(
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was the map update in xcf
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also i'd like kallisto as a peninsula for the most part, although if there really is no other option i could settle with ethanthova there
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here's the few ways i think ethanthova could be fit
-have it joining potatoland and aiota somehow
-put ethanthova north of kallisto as a replacement for the current arctic continent
-have lovinsia shrunk and connected to kallisto, move hellpotatoeland down, put ethanthova below lovinsia
-have lovinsia shrunk and connected to kallisto, put ethanthova west of lovinsia
-join ethanthova to west coast of aiota
-etcetc with the south west portion of map.
in any case who put lovinsia on the map/please shrink it because its like the size of nausikkak
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here's the few ways i think ethanthova could be fit
-have it joining potatoland and aiota somehow
if swonx accept i must blaccept
fixed it
^
just add lovinsia here and you have the official one :P
i can't use gimp :/
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YOU STILL USING OLD EZHEATIO MAPS >:( >:( >:(
No... look at the top of the page.
here's the few ways i think ethanthova could be fit
-have it joining potatoland and aiota somehow
-put ethanthova north of kallisto as a replacement for the current arctic continent
-have lovinsia shrunk and connected to kallisto, move hellpotatoeland down, put ethanthova below lovinsia
-have lovinsia shrunk and connected to kallisto, put ethanthova west of lovinsia
-join ethanthova to west coast of aiota
-etcetc with the south west portion of map.
in any case who put lovinsia on the map/please shrink it because its like the size of nausikkak
Loviniosa has a right to be large it has over 20 nations... but idk... obviously Kallisto is really dense with 50 nations. Also, unless we really have to, I'd rather not have Ethanthova (or anyone for that matter) be west of Aiota, that really messes with the cyclone season. Put it in someone's ocean that doesn't want cyclones :P
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no actually loviniosa has 11 nations so if bielosia and lyintaria and holy yektonisa must be global powers then it should still be about the size of himalia, since on the last map all of naru's lesser nations were the same size as himalia's largest nations
also mudkip now what happened to himalia's islands
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An experiment with climate.
It's horribad.
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climate disapproves
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You should to mountain ranges and elevation first before tackling the climate.
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no actually loviniosa has 11 nations so if bielosia and lyintaria and holy yektonisa must be global powers then it should still be about the size of himalia, since on the last map all of naru's lesser nations were the same size as himalia's largest nations
also mudkip now what happened to himalia's islands
i did not stuffs with himalian islands!
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then why are they not exist on recent maps
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You should to mountain ranges and elevation first before tackling the climate.
I know where my mountain ranges are and what my elevation is.
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okay i take that back maybe not
some arbitrary unit elevation stuff
most of the significant features shown are basically "canon" but they'll need tweaking for sure
the blue is river stuff obv
and the brown is some mountain range notes (before I drew the contours)
Features:
Auspikitan River
<Solea> River
Aolejk Mountains
<4 unnamed ranges> Mountians
Itilsekk Plateau
Sykoksen/Ihpqalik Plateau
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okay i take that back maybe not
some arbitrary unit elevation stuff
most of the significant features shown are basically "canon" but they'll need tweaking for sure
the blue is river stuff obv
and the brown is some mountain range notes (before I drew the contours)
Features:
Auspikitan River
<Solea> River
Aolejk Mountains
<4 unnamed ranges> Mountians
Itilsekk Plateau
Sykoksen/Ihpqalik Plateau
ARGH, make this to me D:
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good, i just want to see dark blue
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like, in the ocean
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for deeper ocean, darker water
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in soviet russia ***you*** are for darker water.
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thats not even how rivers and watersheds work...
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waterhuts are a better name
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o... k...
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yay sensicle rivers from fiahowl
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this sentence took 5 seconds to write goddamn it
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yeah you broke the current
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Not what I meant but yes.
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where did lovini go
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i reject all the maps because not in xcf.
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well then mr. lazy go combine his map and the xcf
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yes but why should i convert the map to xcf when we all agreed to use xcf. It's like obama showing up to his inauguration with his speech written in french and expecting someone to translate for him.
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fiah refuses to use .xcf
are all of his changes to aeridani going to be rejected until the end of time?
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yeah or until the preferred file format changes
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and his national borders won't be on any map we use if anyone ever makes their national borders
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i think you posted in the wrong thread
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jazz on interguild discovered a function that is almost identical to the terrain in snavwxniik-nakwn:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+d%2Fdx(sqrtd)cos^2(x) (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+d%2Fdx(sqrtd)cos^2(x))
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So I can say than i will no blaccept changes in .xcf because i don't use it?
It would be much better (and easier) if we use the .png things, so everyone can be happy.
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no it is because we all voted on the google documents file to chose which file format and gimp won. if you want another file format i suggest you vote and get swonx and fiah to do the same because i suspect you all feel png's are better
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no it is because we all voted on the google documents file to chose which file format and gimp won. if you want another file format i suggest you vote and get swonx and fiah to do the same because i suspect you all feel png's are better
change my vote to pngs please, cause i can't edit it :P
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ok i've voted for both of you.
*actually if paint.net is voted then pdn will be the file format, openable with paint.net
if you want just pngs i will switch your vote to pngs
Since currently, half of us pretty much copy areas out of the xcf file to work on them before putting them back, and pdns would merely be a inconvenience to nue/matty/naru/whoever, but a pdn file would allow hellpotatoe and swonx to work on the map, i've voted paint.net so we're switching to paint.net files as soon as i or someone else converts the xcf file.
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I switch vote to pngs.
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i switch vote to ponies fucking other ponies
i switch vote to pdn
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re-edited
Hell potatoes if you want a hight map make one your self
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Are we using LNG/paint?
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Allright, I also added a colour palette that can be used for easy access and can be easily turned off.
So, this is official? :P
And from previous removed post: Someone can make a height map to me? :P
666 >:D
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NO DOUBLE POSTS BONG!!
Hellpotatoe make your own hightmap if you want one
I wanna a height map not your opinion :P
I wanna one made by other ppl
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why?
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What the hell are you guys talking about. This is off-topic.
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NO DOUBLE POSTS BONG!!
Hellpotatoe make your own hightmap if you want one
I wanna a height map not your opinion :P
I wanna one made by other ppl
NO DOUBLE POSTING HELLPOTATOE!!!
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stop this
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Madness, HELLPOTATOE
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stop this
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idc how many posts in a row you make. just that you get your opium out there.
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wt
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dan expanded the uploader
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kolok internal borders
FéahOul northwestish island makes frontier with teh folowing provinces of the Potato Lands
Leekstate
Mushroolands
Leafineon
Watermeland
Pineapplestate
Saguaria
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do everything
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...someone used too many nukes on aiota
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...someone used even more nukes on the title
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unofficial but -1000
Lighter color is more spread out, more tribal, etc, darker generally means nation-like
As you can see, the saguans are the major power at this time.
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is this map with a lack of himalian islands official
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no it is not
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i will fix dar i am just lazy you can revert to undistored himalia if you want
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since I'm done for now have an update (year -800, just after the Empire of Nausikkak forms)
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kallisto is actually not stretched out enough horizontally kol.
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prolly cause I'm using an old version but still the map gets the data across.
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I was bored ;D
So get bored again 'nd beautify Ezheatio map too!! kol
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dark purple is Nausikaa (saguan colony nation)
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i like how SWKC is the core of nausikkak at this point
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more
Note how nations are starting to have more defined borders.
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omg so many ponies
also this is 800AD you realize that right?
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if you're trying to suggest something, tell me without saying "also this is 800AD you realize that right?" it helps a lot more
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why is the border between blaland and the saguan nations the same as it is 1100 years later
it is now canon that the saguan nation(s) go crazy and try to conquer collapsing nausikkak
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taken (of the actual map)
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as said in IRC: this map is beautiful
is the saguan area good? (note to self: fix -500 with these)
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yes mommie
wut is greyish
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yes mommie
wut is greyish
That's the Nausikkak claims color.
Also I'm certain this will be correct.
Dark purple is a Saguan-sympathizer revolutionary state. (Mainly Nausikaa)
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so many posts
Saguan Civil War (~-290 to ~-240) and Dissolution of Nausikkak (-293)
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purple faction is saguaists
green-like faction is donguaists
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done
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Solea falls slowly apart into several competing states... Sagua incomplete darv will edit it.
Soleani Orange - Solea
Red - Eqriani
Blue - Kavllap
Green - Ihpqalik
Lighter Orange - Aspeukisjeriktilsekk (Auspik-sympathizers)
Yellow - Aoleanj
Redder Orange - Vyyzekrtni
Salmon - Akkavalta-Aeixzari
Pink - Inner Solea (Saelunavvk)
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yay productivity
i counted, and this would be the 15th map version but i named it wrong
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growing progress is growing
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Double posts bekause kakti.
I was lookin in the map and thinkin, can we join ezheatio, aiota, kallisto and maybe aeridamni to make a koltinent?
Edit= Here's the map 16, i removed a error in ezheatio
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I can't see the PDN on my iPad, so could you somebody it as a png for once?
And no Hellpotatoe. When you cut all ties with my nation, and try an "economic blockade" by no longer exporting or importing from me, it still makes sense to have thousands of miles of ocean between us.
Uh, the world map doesn't changed very much
What ties our nations have before this? :P
Your nation don't like of the "strange people" and kommunists, and they're like 80% of our pop.
And Ezheatio don't have any ekonomik influence in this world, an ekonomik blokade from us should not affekt your nation and people =P
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By discrimination against strange peoples I am talking like the racist divide today. Most people are fine but some are extreme.
And I am fine with communists as long as they don't try to overthrow the government.
whata ones? :P
oh, my mistake
ignore the blokade thing
aaand taken c:
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Hellpotatoe if you change it a lot post a png along with the pdn please
well, I'll post the png c:
Kan I join Nausikkak (koltinent)? :P
Edit: Maybe sumwhere in west blaland
Edit2: If yes atomic will get crazy I will make ezheatio island join nausikkak koltinent. And them the person who make nausikkak maps kan make my water borders become moar beautifull
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I made 65% of the Nausikkak maps. And I won't make your water borders better until I know for sure if you are allowed to be connected to Nausikkak (which I believe when darvince and nue wake up you will be ripped to shreds)
I don't wanna be ripped to shreds D:
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this needs labels so I can place my thing without having to change Ethanthova and the TND's histories too much.
Make a layer for labels plox
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this needs labels so I can place my thing without having to change Ethanthova and the TND's histories too much.
Make a layer for labels plox
Labels? As in nation names?
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yes i often like to fuck himalias
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oh shit i forgot the newer aiota
(takened)
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this needs labels so I can place my thing without having to change Ethanthova and the TND's histories too much.
Make a layer for labels plox
Labels? As in nation names?
indeed
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taken after dar
kan i join nausikkak koltinent if swonx and matty dont accept join in a new koltinent?
[18:41] <+Hellpotatoe> and matty, do you accept it?
[18:42] <+matty406> I honestly don't know what nausikkak is
[18:42] <+Darvince> matty406 are you ok with the continent from the old map being imported to the new map
[18:42] <+Darvince> and no hellpotatoe
[18:42] <+Darvince> you may not join to nausikkak
[18:42] <+Hellpotatoe> :c
[18:42] <+Darvince> unless it is to the blaish side of nausikkak
[18:42] <+Hellpotatoe> yea
[18:42] <+Darvince> oh ok
[18:42] <+Darvince> then you may
[18:43] <+Darvince> but do not go above the 90 degree shift in coastline
[18:43] <+Hellpotatoe> but why can be only at this side?
[18:43] <+Hellpotatoe> :P
[18:43] <+Darvince> or face the wrath of misplaced saguans
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Featuring: Imperial Darvincia and Unifying Solea
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0
Featuring: a peaceful Solea, Darvincia's borders forced back by Loviniosa
Dark pink - Fieksier
Darker yellow - Anerak (released by Darvincia/Loviniosa)
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100
Featuring: Auspik Civil War
Greenish - unnamed city state
Light purple - Dtersaauw Sagua
very similar to saguan purple - Aitessekk Naus
wheatish yellow - Rift Auspikitan
Auspikitan yellow - Eqkirium/West Auspikitan
Salmony yellow - Errakyva
Burgundy - Aowensii
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http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/23650-xcf-filetype-plugin/ (http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/23650-xcf-filetype-plugin/)
this allows pdn to load and save xcf files
therefore my vote switches from png to xcf
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bastard
although between -100 and 0 viaeloshia basically occupies all of darvincia and holds it hostage for 20-25 years
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bullshit
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anyway
200
i probably need official borders for nausikaa but yeah there's gonna be a lot of editing to do with previous images
<Darvince> i have decided that nausikaa exists as a nation after the end of nausikkak
<Darvince> and again after the end of imperial darwinia
Also Solea and Rift Auspikitan at it's peak
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bullshit
KOL
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hellpotatoe go do revision 18
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hellpotatoe go do revision 18
Uhh Fiah/someone else that can prettyfy borders make ezheatio joins nausikkak by blaland side without touching the saguan area where land make a 90 degree pls.
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300
burgundy is now officially aovensiiv
red - new pegasopolis
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in 400 put key to don's border to current
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That seems very all homo.
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That seems very all homo.
why?
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I've finished 400, 500, 600, and 613.
Preliminary Nausikkak History Maps (http://imgur.com/a/BzHs8) Album
Nausikaa is going to need to be edited to exist in some of the maps, as well as possibly other things.
<Darvince> according to that on the 0 mapp darvincia should be bielosian
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I've finished 400, 500, 600, and 613.
Preliminary Nausikkak History Maps (http://imgur.com/a/BzHs8) Album
Nausikaa is going to need to be edited to exist in some of the maps, as well as possibly other things.
<Darvince> according to that on the 0 mapp darvincia should be bielosian
now its only add sumthings to west part :P
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Hmm.........
how many wars in Aiota you say?
10:
Armendia vs Aiota - Aiota won a bit of land
Svalia vs Aiota - Svalia gained entire island
Armendia vs Svalia - Armendia gets Svalia off main land
Aiota vs Aeridani (gets popcorn) - Aeridani wins north islands (Aiota got owned, no longer threatens Aeridani)
Bolvangar vs Aiota - Bolvangar got part of Aiota
Armendia vs Bolvangar - Armendia got some land
Svalia vs Bolvangar - Svalia's claims outside the islang got obliterated
Chrisca vs Fola - Chrisca gained some land
Fola vs Foshca - Foshca got some land
Eridir vs Ghadi - Eridir got a part of Ghadi
/me gets popcorn
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Don't worry i didn't care about those islands full of dangerous mutant potatoes from Pakka Fedishco
omg
mutant potatoes?
potato land cant hear about those or we will have MUTANT POTATO PLAMANS!!!!
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Funny i looked at Ezheatian part of Nausikkak for a second and thought it looked like an ice skater
kolok
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We need stereotypical maps of the world!!!!!!!!!
I kan make one when i get off school :P
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/me gives hellpotatoe double chocolate cookie
but you get reply 745!!!
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Why dosen't anyone ever add my nation to the map? :(
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What's it's name? Where is it? We have no idea and you never have been active and asked :P
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What's it's name? Where is it? We have no idea and you never have been active and asked :P
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Putting mine on
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*finally.gif*
^i couldn't find a adequetely amusing gif on google images.
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Might be delayed because I've learned I'm putting my thing where Loviniosa is going, and I need to fine another sufficiently largeish space.
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[05:34.29] <vh> we should probably shrink everything
[05:34.32] <vh> to make more room
[05:34.42] <vh> because the world map will be really cramped with lovinsia and mattyland
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Well now I don't know where to put my thing, everywhere I try already has some significance to someone elses canon.
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I keep trying to say how about matty and naru work something out west of kallisto.
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kol³
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Official'd.
New Pegasopolis, Aovensiiv, and Several Well-Known Corporations.
111 provinces in total, unless my counting sucks.
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Well now I don't know where to put my thing, everywhere I try already has some significance to someone elses canon.
meh that's a lame reason not to allow someone to put their nation else everyone could just declare something is 'canon' just place your nation somewhere :P
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but the Southern Serkr
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southeast USA
southeast china
hawaii
nope not always
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appalachians
tibet
volcanos
...herpaderp
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I think it would be good if we had a standard world where we could claim land
It would be more realistic, because here we're only throwing land randomly.
Only a idea...
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Uh. No. If you'd like, go create a world.
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Uh. No. If you'd like, go create a world.
ok then :P
it was only a idea to we have an realistic world
anyway, we have get like 20 random sapientspecies here and not so realistic map, so, don't mind
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"Unofficial USForum Map"
nothx
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(points at title)
kol, what nations are on this mapp?
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Bongatar, no duh
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what
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in soviet kallisto a kol is 238492.3234283872583994572389475839 kilomiles
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I think it would be good if we had a standard world where we could claim land
It would be more realistic, because here we're only throwing land randomly.
Only a idea...
YESYESYESYES MUST MAKE OF THIS NAW!!!!!!!!!!!
NAW!!!!!1!1!!!!!!!!!!11!1!
NAW!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!1!!!!
in a different topic of course
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Something.
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it is i, the grandest of all sugguans
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onherphilia
on her philia
what.
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>0 degrees west
How can something with no magnitude have a direction?
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i often record quakes measuring 0.0 on the richter scale
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kol people
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no you got it wrong
the continent is nausikkak
its sub-regions are
- darvincia
- amalthea
- bla's lands (he makes no canon)
- ezheatio
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most likely he's referring to the Empire.
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ok now teel me how you get to the islands
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with flymode. nationstates has been op'ed
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/op nationstates
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What happened to what this topic was supposed to be about?
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well it got worse when you started the meta conversation
but it's still a healthy topical
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what is a solean and why is it a federation
And isn't there that one topic "It wasn't abrupt." or whatever
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what is a solean and why is it a federation
And isn't there that one topic "It wasn't abrupt." or whatever
SOLEA
SOLEA AND RIFT AUSPIKSTAN (kol?)
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what
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Crazy Random Idea:
If we ever get around to the planet thing (mentioned somewhere in this thread)
maybe each of us could design our own planet(or moon) how we want it
Just an idea.
Yeah, if we get off we will nid of a "homeblanet" for each nation
inb4 dar creates 50~60 homeblanets
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But like we could design uninhabitable as well
I was thinking about a blanet that once had life on it but was destroyed by that life
inb4 its earth
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It shall be called Asavata
Atmosphere: smog
Population:1 million
Landscape:barren, inhospitable, tree stumps everywhere
Sky: black
Any water: polluted with oil
continents: 5 + a very small polar cap
the principal pollution points are in northern hemisphere
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yeah :P
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how do you make somethign pdn? just change the saving format?
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how do you make somethign pdn? just change the saving format?
its just go on paint.net and save as pdn ._.
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for darvincia ignore filename
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for rannbows ignore filename
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for darvincia ignore filename
wats it?
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gdp growth, gdp per capita, and economy rating (0 to 100)
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gdp growth, gdp per capita, and economy rating (0 to 100)
in NS, right?
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gdp growth, gdp per capita, and economy rating (0 to 100)
in NS, right?
no, in of universalis
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gdp growth, gdp per capita, and economy rating (0 to 100)
in NS, right?
no, in of universalis
oh, good, kan you make one to me?
Ezheatio with 500% zoom
(if 1px=10km/100km² in the worldmapp, 1px will be = 2km/4km² in this mapp)
I made it right?
Edit:
Ezamorean will be a moisture between portuguese, italian and translit. japanese
while NeoEzamorean will be a moisture between portuguese, spanish and basque
SVOA (right for portuguese)
Eu odeio bolas azuis
I hate balls blues
SVAO (right for english)
Eu odeio azul bolas
I hate blue balls
VSAO (right for East Ezamorean (or only Ezamorean))
Odeio eu azul bolas
Hate I blue balls
VSOA (right for West Ezamorean (or NeoEzamorean))
Odeio eu bolas azuis
Hate I balls blues
East Ezamorean/Ezamorean and West Ezamorean/NeoEzamorean alphabet:
A a (/a/) (Ã ã (/ɐ͂/))
B b (/b/)
C c (/tʃ/)
D d (/d/)
E e (/e/) (É é (/ɛ/)) (Ẽ ẽ (/ẽ/))
F f (/f/)
G g (/g/)
H h (/x/) (HH hh (/h/))
I i (/i/) (Ĩ ĩ (/ĩ/))
J j (/ʒ/)
K k (/k/)
L l (/l/)
ф ф (/ʎ/)
M m (/m/)
N n (/n/)
Π п (/ɲ/)
O o (/o/) (Ó ó (/ɔ/)) (Õ õ (/õ/))
P p (/p/)
Q q (/kw/)
R r (/r/) (RR rr (/ɾ/))
S s (/s/)
T t (/t/)
U u (/u/) (Ũ ũ (/ũ/))
V v (/v/)
X x (/ʃ/)
Ш ш (/ø/)
Y y (/dʒ/)
Z z (/z/)
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http://eastezamorean.g3n.in/ (http://eastezamorean.g3n.in/)
I'll make the west one sumtime.
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next: height map, cities
nid ideas
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Official flag of Aovensiiv.
(http://i.imgur.com/lDwJA.png)
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Neither is your boat :p
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(http://i.imgur.com/tIx3E.png) Composite history map of the Soleani/Auspik minors
Orange - 100
Yellow - 200
Green - 300
Cyan - 400
Blue - 500
Magenta - 600
(most recent on top except for 600 which is on the bottom layer)
animation coming soon
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wat have you done on it?
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Heyo guys.
So, Hellpotatoe convinced me to participate in this "Nation Map" thing and I don't know where to start, nor I don't even know if this is the right thread. Can someone assist me?
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well you got the thread right
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well, take a nation name, make a map (or ask to someone make for u (fiah?)) and be happy o/
we have 2 things:
capitalism (aeridani (fiah), aiota (swonx), someezheatiannations(me))
kolmmunism (blaland (bla), kallisto (kipnap), lovini, darvincia(darvince :P), etc, someezheatiannations(me))
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way oversimplification
this capitalism vs communism thing was invented by fiah to cause feuds.
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I declare than Ezheatio will be a power
I can actually declare this? :P
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well, take a nation name, make a map (or ask to someone make for u (fiah?)) and be happy o/
we have 2 things:
capitalism (aeridani (fiah), aiota (swonx), someezheatiannations(me))
kolmmunism (blaland (bla), kallisto (kipnap), lovini, darvincia(darvince :P), etc, someezheatiannations(me))
Okay, thanks Hellpotatoe.
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this capitalism vs communism thing was invented by fiah to cause feuds.
NONONONONON TUTO THIS IS THE TRUTH UP HERE^
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this capitalism vs communism thing was invented by fiah to cause feuds.
NONONONONON TUTO THIS IS THE TRUTH UP HERE^
Bekause of things like this I don't like very much of fiah :P
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this capitalism vs communism thing was invented by fiah to cause feuds.
NONONONONON TUTO THIS IS THE TRUTH UP HERE^
I know, I was just acknowledging Hellpotatoe's help.
Besides, I'm not too familiar with communism and capitalism (Well, I did learn about capitalism in civics last year)
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in capitalism everyone can do whatever they want business wise
In communism the government gives everyone a job, and everything is public. Money is not a thing
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bollocks.
in communism the government supplies everyone with the most basic necessities of live (or less basic, if you're a rich nation like ska, darvincia, or blaland). you may get a job if you want, and it's highly encouraged. money does not exist, and all property is public.
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Ok Darvince there are about 9001 versions of communism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism)
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Okay.
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bollocks.
in communism the government supplies everyone with the most basic necessities of live (or less basic, if you're a rich nation like ska, darvincia, or blaland). you may get a job if you want, and it's highly encouraged. money does not exist, and all property is public.
there's this thing
it's called personal property
you can have it in SKA
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then it is socialism
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No it is personal propertyism
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then it is socialism
it is called a Soleani socialism, communism has no government
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so communism is when everyone help each other or when 1000000's of people die due to no government
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what is happening here
what is .jpg
what is even
what
what
what
what go use .png for maps
sudo get paint.net
sudo get universalis_world20.pdn
sudo convert tutono.jpg -> .png
sudo get tutono.png
sudo merge tutono.png -> universalis_world20.pdn
sudo rename universalis_world20.pdn -> universalis_world21.pdn
sudo get universalis_world21.pdn
sudo upload universalis_world21.pdn
sudo be satisfied
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eh the png thing is easy I can crop it in later
But
another archipelago . png
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what is happening here
what is .jpg
what is even
what
what
what
what go use .png for maps
sudo get paint.net
sudo get universalis_world20.pdn
sudo convert tutono.jpg -> .png
sudo get tutono.png
sudo merge tutono.png -> universalis_world20.pdn
sudo rename universalis_world20.pdn -> universalis_world21.pdn
sudo get universalis_world21.pdn
sudo upload universalis_world21.pdn
sudo be satisfied
So I'm supposed to use the map from that Universalis game?
How the hell would I know? :P
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first world map posted in four pages
no tuto use the map on this post after downloading paint.net
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i believe the last world map is here
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg94691.html#msg94691 (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg94691.html#msg94691)
it might be cramped
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first world map posted in four pages
no tuto use the map on this post after downloading paint.net
I went derp for a moment.
Sorry. :(
Now... ???
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well you got the thread right
kol
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I still need help making my nation.
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2px wide black borders, with antialiasing off. other than that it's up to you (unless it looks terrible)
white land, blue water.
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Thanks.
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for reference here is tuto's desired location i think
unless he just put it there because he wanted some lands
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No, I just failed. ;D
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ok mommy
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first world map posted in four pages
no tuto use the map on this post after downloading paint.net
I went derp for a moment.
Sorry. :(
Now... ???
I'm sorry I couldn't help you tuto, I am seriously sick :(
Anyways, have you downloaded Paint.NET yet? (http://www.dotpdn.com/files/Paint.NET.3.5.10.Install.zip) (If that link doesn't work try this (http://www.dotpdn.com/downloads/pdn.html)) If yes, good! Now you should click on this (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg94691.html#msg94691) link and go to the attachment at the bottom. Then open it with paint.net and edit on the bottom most layer.
Don't worry, I already set up my nation. But thanks anyway.
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>mfw you claimed half of blaland
>mfw you claimed half of a darvincian island
>mfw your island has no nation on it
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atomic is a doubtist
and also apparently anti-paint.net
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i thought when you added your island it would have your nation on it...
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dffffff pay day nay
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/me pays in the day at nay
also, taken
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so is it good? if so i need to remake my official SKA maps.
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yes is excellent
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Updated map.
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lol ihpqalik looks silly
should i feel bad for cutting it off
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ok un-taken i got lazy kalassak goo edit the official mapp
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nooooooo
/me makes Fiah do it
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darvincia flag
also ikkuvvuki flag
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Well, here it is, my nation.
The flag is included in the info, and as a separate picture.
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wow that's cute
now teleport it to the ns map
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wow that's cute
now teleport it to the ns map
Oh crap.
I did it on MS Paint. I can't separate the internal borders. :(
I'll try to copy the borders onto the internal border layer on the map.
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Fixed. :)
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there's no map?
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there's no map?
Oh, forgot. ;D
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KOLOK
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hey, when we will start the official story and stuff?
I will make flags to ezheatio. period
Officially removed nations of ezheatio and left only:
New Issamoria
Issamoria
Gizeanea
Altëbënia
Callabell
Miarrea
North Sion
South Sion
Barcegna
The Free Lands of Free Freedom
Potato Lands
Konferanto Trinislad
Gran Nasseire
Picco Nasseire
Svekansmark
(cause 40 flags is so many)
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taken
Edit: given
Edition(s) in map: Added internal borders in Potato Lands, Sodomorra, Free Lands of Free Freedom and Ezheatio
Added internal internal borders in Ezheatio
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oops
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wut why is there issamoria and new issamoria at the same time
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cause u need of see the wars thread
new issamoria has come from issamoria
issamoria (kolmmunist) have sum war then crysis then riots then new issamoria (capitalist)
the tuto two nashunings exists at same time
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tkn
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oops
is all of ezheatio really one nation?
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update ring
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oops
is all of ezheatio really one nation?
argh
then a war is happening now (yes, right now) and ezheatio split and the union is ending
happy with what you did?
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k i read it
2 pixals black
so where do i add na nation?
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PAINT.NET OR GIMP?
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wat
its gimp duh
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paint.net dant have the good brushes
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editing
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You turn off anti-aliasing and use the Paint.NET two pixels brush.
oh yeah i nwo i remember
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added a mattyland
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thx
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oh right wrong layer; well it won't matter once i magic it.
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editing
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So I'm not quite sure, do we add our own nation here for incorporation into one of the forum games, or something else?
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go
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OUT OF MY WAY I WILL HAVE THIS
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filled it in red.
can you please put txt on the different contrys so i know which is which? and seperate with a big black line? thx. (only to the ones near me)
kthxbai
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forgot the image :P
filledinred is my nation filled in red
universalis_world25 is the actual thing
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/spawn internal war in ezheatio
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/puts a solid golden box 1m by 1m in the middle of ezheatio for people to start a war in fighting over with
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they don't need of this, but.
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Here's a rough outline idea for Ethanthova and the TND (who take up the top right bit. Too big?
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yes ethan is like the size of russia
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it's not too big -- maybe you could attach it to lovinsia to make a continueous shape if you wanted.
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how is it not too big
it's like the entire continent of africa appearing out of the pacific ocean
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Ethanthova is the largest and highest populated country in our region with 6,093,000,000 people. We need room for them to be in. But okay, I'll chop some bits off.
And I'm thinking about just keeping tight-knit peninsulas between landmasses unless I get an okay from the person owning other land to attach them.
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we're using ns stats?
bekause i dont have any
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NONONONONONONONONONO NOT NS STATS MATTY YOU MAY NOT HAVE 6 BILLION PEOPLE
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THEN WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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halve your population twice.
so 1.5 billion
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this world is 90% land kthxbaib
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WIP for curious atomics
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wait BOngatar is added to the mapp rihgt?
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yes you pony
it's south of blaist blaland
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THEN WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
matty you should just ignore them and add it on and then we can shuffle things to fit it :P
the world is 73.5% water we could do with some more land
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kk.
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map/name says all
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uhh, you made that only to show wheres is ezheatio and where is bongatar?
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Chopped some stuff off.
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Chopped some stuff off.
you mean a giant tetonic movent moved'm
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ok ethanthova is now the population density of the eastern US that is güd
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just like select it and click and hold the square farthest away from it and go towards the middle of ethanthova. :)
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Fin
Darvince initiate rage and complaints.
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added island frontier
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fiah, make it to me cause I'm lazy
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people i only have TWO islands, not three. the one fathest west is hellpotatoe's
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yeah
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protip: kallisto does not recognize your northern continent claim (we had a discussion about this pages back).
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doing rev #33
first draw of loviniosa
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it looks like toast
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second draft
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the big three of loviniosa's territories. the striped territory is contested by the holy yektonisa and lyintaria, but it's de facto under control of lyintaria
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he's preparing for war!!! respond militarilyly
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oh not those giant-ass shipyards again! :P
yes my peasants
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[1/3/13] SEND INVITE TO [TND, LOVINIOSIA]
why no capitalist space coalition?
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fyi guys, kolokia = antarctica
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fyi guys, kolokia = antarctica
I thought Kolokia was the peninsula Kallisto was on? Okay then.
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fyi guys, kolokia = antarctica
I thought Kolokia was the peninsula Kallisto was on? Okay then.
well we can call that the kolokian peninsula
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1. lyintaria and pyxanovia should connect to kallisto, that would be pretty cute
2. lovinsia: when they go to war they detach an entire city as an ad hoc navy
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ok fine
/invite hellpotatoe
/accepts
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Aeridanish continent circa dissolution of Nausikkak
labels/legends
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is that an HRE-like thing or is it provinces or is it completely independent nations
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im the red right
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no you're way off in the southern hemisphere
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I might just have to redo the Nausikkak maps... (Or more likely do an Auspik tribes one and Soleani one)
Edit: I think I just made a new continent... crap.
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gj atomic
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I might just have to redo the Nausikkak maps... (Or more likely do an Auspik tribes one and Soleani one)
and then add the ezheatan ones
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is it ambient
Yes it is, it is also Portuguese (I think) for Environmental
yes it is
double psots are cool
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fiah's spouse
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kolok idk
Roughly:
/eye-eer/
/fen-reer/
/ser-ter/
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wt why are all the islands named Ö
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techinically everything is an island so....
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wt why are all the islands named Ö
Because ö is island in Swedish, and all the names I chose were Norse.
So it's Island Surtur, Island Aegir, and Island Fenrir.
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Ök
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the Ö usage fever has appered in ubÖx fÖrums! help
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every single one of himalia's nations is now called Österreich (austria)
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double post:
ok so kip, if i've got this right then the antarctica continent is called kolokia and your peninsula is called kallisto?
protip: the most likely starting point of high technology civilization is in either nausikkak or the loviniosa+ethanthova continent, whatever that one's called, unless it's connected to kallisto in which case kolokia will be the first to develop civilization, and nausikkak would be right behind kolokia. the reason that it's the ethan+lovini continent is because it's huge, same with nausikkak, so the continent has great variety.
btw, ethanthova's terrain will have to be very homogeneous and easy to get through to get such similar culture over such a massive area. the alternate option for this to be possible is for ethanthova to have been colonised from somewhere else.
if naru doesn't mind his nations being highly bilingual, trilingual, or even more, then bielosia, lyintaria, and holy yektonisa are fine. but as it is now, those areas are simply too large to have such a similar culture. the only area on earth where i can think that there's a massive area of similar culture (pre-colonisation) would be most of mid-china, and even then south china and manchuria are vastly different from mid-china.
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kolokia is the north continent, kallisto is a peninsula on that continent aka kolokian peninsula
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whatt if if Theres a species dwarf in Aiota migrate to aeridani
there's the daemons
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around -50 or so
Wait, isn't that Hell's country/ continent?
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around -50 or so
Wait, isn't that Hell's country/ continent?
no, my one is on the west of Naussikak (the bigger kontinent of the right)
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we're all waiting for rodvenio's map
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Bongatar is a Waste Land, littered with Radioactive Garbage from the Wars of Kallisto. But underneath all the Garbage, therin lies....
Bongatar's greatest Cities, Hvifekns, nicknames Poopies. Poopies it connected by Rails, high speed Magnetic Trains, going up to 100 Jafs/minute. It is a center of Trade, with Huge Automatic Farms of Every Kind Deeper under the Great Poopies, Hidden from thieves and Vandels. There is only transportation for the Farmed items, people who Farm stay down there for the Rest of their Lives. They also hold the most Extreme Olympic Sports of Community USForum Map - Rev #32, With Lava Pits Boating, Radioactive Waste Lifting, and the final, and most Dangerous test: Survival of the Fittest. The Competers are thrown into the Nuclear waste with special Insturments strapped Tightly on their waste. Whoever can survive the Longest in the Waste will win, the others Die. The winner is then [TOP SECRET].
TO BE CONTINUED IF 3 PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE (or if i feel like it).
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we're all waiting for rodvenio's map
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Bongatar is a Waste Land, littered with Radioactive Garbage from the Wars of Kallisto. But underneath all the Garbage, therin lies....
Bongatar's greatest Cities, Hvifekns, nicknames Poopies. Poopies it connected by Rails, high speed Magnetic Trains, going up to 100 Jafs/minute. It is a center of Trade, with Huge Automatic Farms of Every Kind Deeper under the Great Poopies, Hidden from thieves and Vandels. There is only transportation for the Farmed items, people who Farm stay down there for the Rest of their Lives. They also hold the most Extreme Olympic Sports of Community USForum Map - Rev #32, With Lava Pits Boating, Radioactive Waste Lifting, and the final, and most Dangerous test: Survival of the Fittest. The Competers are thrown into the Nuclear waste with special Insturments strapped Tightly on their waste. Whoever can survive the Longest in the Waste will win, the others Die. The winner is then [TOP SECRET].
TO BE CONTINUED IF 3 PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE (or if i feel like it).
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wrong thread bong that goes into the ns roleplay thred this is for <b>MAPPING</b>
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i do not want it to be continued, shut it down immediately
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i do not want it to be continued, shut it down immediately
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wrong thread bong that goes into the ns roleplay thred this is for <b>MAPPING</b>
yes i know
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fyi loviniosa is going to be frigid because of gigamatty
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I should put Amalthean internal borders...
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mfw super high lakes again
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I've posted this map on other forums and people said "they're high"
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ok
unfinished but the general shape
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finally sugging ponies
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Added Amalthean nations.
also 34
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the empire strikes back
kol, aeridani is above the horse latitude
you lose
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woah we've almost doubled the amount of revisions since i added that number
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why
uhh...
AAAH!
you lose/me runs
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why
uhh...
AAAH!
you lose/me runs
But if you can't think for yourself, then how is it that you can answer me?
kol swonx
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while kip and naru are busy modding eu3, i am busy climating for himalia
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nice colors
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Taken to add Bongatar (cuz i stopped being lazy)
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[21:25] <+bong_> i nid to get rev 50
[21:25] <+FiahOwl> *claims rev 42*
[21:25] <+Darvince> wut
[21:25] <+Darvince> *claims rev 41*
[21:25] <+bong_> wait so every rev we basically just change the shape of the map?
[21:26] <+bong_> *claims rev 50*
claimed >:D
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yes they are, peasant
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notice: fiah fucked up adding currents, continue from last non-currents revision
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ok, made new, better ocean currents and FINALLY added the "internal" borders of Himalia. (they're about as internal as the borders of asia are internal to asia)
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Yeah I think we can be pretty sure the Serkr in both hemispheres is exploding.
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Nice currents...
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This forum have so many randomness that it infected me.
It makes me think "I need to change Ezheato" randomly
Oh yeah, Ezheato is breaking cause Darvince wants it.
taken.
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This double psot will be edited when i finish
Can someone edit the oceanic currents when I finish?
Fiah, you know than I own the west and the south part of the small northwestern island near the aeridani continent, right? You edited it, its okay, but I wanna to let you know this.
Oh, you just flip'd it
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snip
as you moved aiota seemingly without swonx?'s permission, i will ignore that map and use http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7618.0;attach=20564 (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7618.0;attach=20564) instead
also wth owns aiota
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Well, its mine *taken*
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Well, its already taken. Fiah have to ask permission before he modify other ppl things
Given'
Edit: <whatkip> right next to aeridani my plans are complete.
Keep a eye open fiah.
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[19:25:54] fiahowl http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg96898.html#msg96898 (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg96898.html#msg96898) whatkip hp merging maps\
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hey can someone show the mapp because this comp doesn't have paint.net
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lol xp
lol poor people (of which i am one)
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btw did anyone update the currents since fiahowl changed aeridani yet again?
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i brokke aeridani
old continent is now for salejk
I wanna it. OHWAIT, FU**ING JK!
btw did anyone update the currents since fiahowl changed aeridani yet again?
I can TRY.
Taken to TRY.
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new loviniosa tttt
haven't finished making internal borders and names
(http://i.imgur.com/AN3qfiG.png)
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@Bla Hellpotatoe's nation.
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@Bla Hellpotatoe's nation.
Wat?
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given
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tuto you used the wrong basemap use the one attached to the post above
Oh...
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ttt
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editing
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ok i'm completely redoing kallisto because its screwy
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-edited north continent because it looked like a giant dildo on globe view
-redid kallisto
1st image: before edits
2nd image: kallisto and lovinsia -- i'm satisfied; it looks non-distorted
3rd image: aeridani -- um is it supposed to look like that
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the map has been slowly shrinking in file size for a while
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what are you smoking
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changes
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editing
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done
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taken
added: bongatar provence tingies
another island for bongatar, but i don't have time so i'm moving it around/
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screw layers i'm too lazy to fix
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good
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taken
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it's been an hour...
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it's been an hour...
Kalm down.
Given.
-Added Sovkokia
-Small changes on Ezheatan Peninsula
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pls no two polar continents do you seriously want a permanent ice age
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gj 100 minutes turn.
taken
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...hellpotatoe it isn't even neat....
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and nice different coloured lines
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bam
we can always take out the other nation if we don't.
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just did some stuff to my internal borders, still not 100% happy with them
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ok sagan
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mudkipz what the hell is kallisto doing so freaking close to himalia you just killed the sea of sovk
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what the motherfucking shit is wrong with you guys
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also, personal bitchings for each of you:
hellpotatoe what the hell are you thinking with that polar continent? nobody will have settled it or even be able to reach it and it will also make the world a motherfucking ice age all the time
mudkipz make kallisto back to its thin state or i will dissolve you in my anger you fucking idiot himalia and loviniosa are all fucked up now
fiahowl why the fuck do you need to change aeridani YET AGAIN you change it like once every 2 months and call this version final then scrap it like you always need to be working on it or something well guess what YOU DON'T JUST LEAVE THE FUCKING LAST VERSION IT LOOKED 90 TIMES BETTER GODDAMN
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also, personal bitchings for each of you:
hellpotatoe what the hell are you thinking with that polar continent? nobody will have settled it or even be able to reach it and it will also make the world a motherfucking ice age all the time
OMG, THIS ISNT MEANT TO BE THERE!
I've uploaded teh wrong mapp, sorry :(
*To anyone that wanna know this mapp is a mine one, to play with teh nation as I like kol. Sovkokia is meant to be an small nations in kolokia, on teh "official" mapp
Taken
Edit: Sorry for the mistake.
Edit2: Darvince, WHADAFUK YOU MADE WITH TEH MAPP? I WILL TAKE A PREVIOUS ONE!!1!1!
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mudkipz what the hell is kallisto doing so freaking close to himalia you just killed the sea of sovk
omg, kallisto is distorted to hell!
I can say certainly that he makes this to teh globe view has no distortion. Why you people mind with this now? Make ANOTHER mapp to fit ALL nations without distortions. Leave this one to be like a template or something.
Idk if you can understand me, but okay.
Edit: Idk if you people can understand me anyway, kol.
Edit2: And twin solar empire? Ohgod.
I have one idea!!! I will leave this until people have a consense in all things! =D
Given! =D
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tkn
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WAT THE FUCK HELLPOTATOE YOU MESSED UP BLA'S CONTINTENT IT'S ALL MESSY NEAR THE BORDERS REVERTING TO OLDER NAPP.
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wtf i'm editing from the last 'normal' mapp, which is matty's.
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mudkipz what the hell is kallisto doing so freaking close to himalia you just killed the sea of sovk
omg, kallisto is distorted to hell!
I can say certainly that he makes this to teh globe view has no distortion. Why you people mind with this now? Make ANOTHER mapp to fit ALL nations without distortions. Leave this one to be like a template or something.
Idk if you can understand me, but okay.
Edit: Idk if you people can understand me anyway, kol.
Edit2: And twin solar empire? Ohgod.
I have one idea!!! I will leave this until people have a consense in all things! =D
Given! =D
hellpotatoe, please leave your nation here for now, as it's really crazy with the mapps and everyone is being confusing, if you leave it will be even more chaotic.
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WAT THE FUCK HELLPOTATOE YOU MESSED UP BLA'S CONTINTENT IT'S ALL MESSY NEAR THE BORDERS REVERTING TO OLDER NAPP.
Uh, I dont even touched on it, I only removed my nations...
I will keep them off until sum near (or not so) future.
Edit: I have an idea. I'll only come back when I develop Issamoria and New Issamoria and etc completely. This will make Ezheatan Peninsula stay statik (without so many changes every month)
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...no when you deleted your nation there were still some white parts there.
just leave it there!!!
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fuck.
i'm done.
someone remove hellpotatoe's southern contient for me.
matty's mapp hopefully.
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...no when you deleted your nation there were still some white parts there.
just leave it there!!!
Oh, the white parts kan be removed. I leave'd 'em 'cause the bla frontiers are national ones, not 'sea' ones.
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then fix it!
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then fix it!
No, idk if someone wanna make a nation there...
And vh, how muc % of the world is water/land naw, without my nations?
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mudkipz what the hell is kallisto doing so freaking close to himalia you just killed the sea of sovk
omg, kallisto is distorted to hell!
I can say certainly that he makes this to teh globe view has no distortion. Why you people mind with this now? Make ANOTHER mapp to fit ALL nations without distortions. Leave this one to be like a template or something.
Idk if you can understand me, but okay.
Edit: Idk if you people can understand me anyway, kol.
Edit2: And twin solar empire? Ohgod.
I have one idea!!! I will leave this until people have a consense in all things! =D
Given! =D
well someone understands.
picture 1: kallisto looks like this (before it was connected with lovinsia anyways
picture 2: kallisto looks like this on the globe (bad, because it's not close to the real shape)
picture 3: when i make kallisto shaped differently it looks like this on the globe (good)
so since you hate kallisto being next to himalia so much, i can offer three options:
1. move himalia east
2. move himalia and nausikkak east
3. shrink kallisto
4. removal of kallisto
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can i move bongatar closer to the middle of the ocean? i want to make sure it is not distorted
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both images: overlaid onto the official kallisto map.
in the first image you can see the thin kallisto on the globe. the bottom is not distorted much, perhaps even less than the fat kallisto. however, the top leaves something to be desired. in the second image, the top is much less distorted.
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thin kallisto looked better on both the globe and the map
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no it didn't.
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that's your opinion my opinion is more important because i have more canon
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i have more cannon
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i have more canon
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Can someone make and give me a .txt, .doc or .anything that explains the Universalis "known" History, with basic national information of every country?
I wanna know the basis 'n' this kind of thing before I do teh histories of my nations...
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Can someone make and give me a .txt, .doc or .anything that explains the Universalis "known" History, with basic national information of every country?
I wanna know the basis 'n' this kind of thing before I do teh histories of my nations...
There is none, nobody has done anything.
Uh...
So how I know wat is pyxanovia, new dirtville and the other nations with strange names? "It's nue/naru/bla/bong/fiah/darvince/tuto nation" dont helps.
And how I know why "aeridani/kallisto/blaland/nue(or naru idk) bunch of nations" are powerfull? And etc?
So I can make anything like "humans have first appeared in Darvincia, then go do South Nausikkak and then "Ezheatan" peninsula?
Kol, I leave, vh leaves, fiah leaves...
Inb4 teh world is empty.
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muhahahaha....
I will eat blaland with rice!!
I would have done the same!
OMG, HE GIVES PERMISSION!!!
TAKEN
Inb4 blarages.
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kallisto is still there on the nation names layer i don't know how it go tthere
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So I can make anything like "humans have first appeared in Darvincia, then go do South Nausikkak and then "Ezheatan" peninsula?
No one has a answer?
So if I make random history it will be cannon?
Isn't better we make a kommunity history? Kan I create a "official topik"?
And define better the "power thing"? (yes, this really make me angry =p)
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there are about 6 official usfn history topics or ns complilations now but we could do with one more go ahead
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Can someone make and give me a .txt, .doc or .anything that explains the Universalis "known" History, with basic national information of every country?
I wanna know the basis 'n' this kind of thing before I do teh histories of my nations...
There is none, nobody has done anything.
actually yes we have go look at nue's nausikkak history
although this is before you were like "OMG EZHEATIO SHOULD NAUSIKKAK!"
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TL;DL: I revamped the land for the final time.
fiah you must obey this
will someone please explain where kallisto, ezheatio, and aeridani sank to
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TL;DL: I revamped the land for the final time.
fiah you must obey this
will someone please explain where kallisto, ezheatio, and aeridani sank to
aeridani will problably receive a update, so will kallisto
kallisto was problably a vh joke
I have removed Ezheatio.
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Can someone make and give me a .txt, .doc or .anything that explains the Universalis "known" History, with basic national information of every country?
I wanna know the basis 'n' this kind of thing before I do teh histories of my nations...
There is none, nobody has done anything.
actually yes we have go look at nue's nausikkak history
although this is before you were like "OMG EZHEATIO SHOULD NAUSIKKAK!"
No prob, I removed it. Nue's history will work naw.
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no add back ezheatio my complaint was about the southern polar continent not ezheatio
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my complaint was about the southern polar continent not ezheatio
ikr
Edit: I only think than Ezheatio is pointless.
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I think that Ezheatio is fine and should have stayed.
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Kalm down, I will add my nations in teh future. But first i will develop history and stuff, so it doesn't seem pointless.
It's because of this that I want the history of universalis...
Or at least sum descriptions of every nation..
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but keep checking warlight!
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but keep checking warlight!
KOL
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ok see you in 2014 fiah
you're seriously overreacting
you were doing this to kip for two months and look how much of a shit he gave.
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and how much was that 2 months ago i thought everyone was all over the amalgamate oh wait that was more like 1.5 months
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0.000000000000000000000000000000000037 shits
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0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000009000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 shits
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editing
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.
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stop with your anti-distortionism
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yes
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[10:06.31] <+Darvince> universalis is a cylinder 0m tall with two semispherical caps. this is more commonly known as a sphere.
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kol but no it's a cylinder unless we agree to keep it the same amount of pixels when getting rid of distortion
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a cylinder with zero height is degenerate aka non existant as you said yourself
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no i mean an actual cylinder
one with height
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wut
it's a sphere if you keep kallisto about same pixel amount (like within 5%) when getting rid of distortion
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no pony it's a cylinder
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no it is a sphere but keep kallisto within 5-10% of original distorted size when undistorting
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...no!
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why not
this applies to places other than kallisto as well
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because you haven't defined 'original distorted size' and what if <continent> was 200% size of the map when it was distorted
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i mean original undistorted size
like the entire map is currently
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in the current map kallisto is around 500 pixels and aeridani is 0 pixels ok.
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aeridani doesn't count because fiah hasn't re-added it yet
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ok but i don't want kallisto to be the size of the smallest hawaiian island or something so no
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i don't mean the map in its current state i mean the map from when kallisto was last on the map as an actual continent/peninsula
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counterproposal: all nations will be must be kept to within 10% of their area from the last revision of 'thin kallisto'
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you know what i will just pretend kallisto is immune to the effects of equirectangular distortion and ignore any renders of it on a globe
(still editing_
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counterproposal: all nations will be must be kept to within 10% of their area from the last revision of 'thin kallisto'
this is what i meant
although if you mean by that people can't change them by more than 10% then no
if you mean by 10% when un-distorting then yes
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you know what i will just pretend kallisto is immune to the effects of equirectangular distortion and ignore any renders of it on a globe
(still editing_
WHy we cant just make 2 maps, one for put in spheres and other TO LOOK GOOD? D:
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Note: I'll keep my nations removed permanently. This world is... very nonsensical to exist and to build one acceptable history to my nations.
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Note: I'll keep my nations removed permanently. This world is... very nonsensical to exist and to build one acceptable history to my nations.
No, stick it on Nausikkak, this world is still in its very early stages.
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Note: I'll keep my nations removed permanently. This world is... very nonsensical to exist and to build one acceptable history to my nations.
No, stick it on Nausikkak, this world is still in its very early stages.
Hm...
edit- You really wanna it on Nausikkak?
I'm thinking on take the Amalgamate koltinent and use it, since nobody is using it anyway.
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edit- You really wanna it on Nausikkak?
I'm thinking on take the Amalgamate koltinent and use it, since nobody is using it anyway.
^
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no it's not called theft. but also i don't think we need another continent
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no it's not called theft. but also i don't think we need another continent
I was only going to do that to make my history without have to wait all people on Nausikkak make theirs first. And Darvince and other people dont seems very happy of my presence on Nausikkak...
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Actually hellpotatoe, you can keep Ezheatio stuck on Nausikkak as long as you only attach to Blaist Blaland because his borders aren't canon. Or you could do like Bongatar and have Ezheatio floating near to Nausikkak. I was thinking that if you really want to leave we could put Shmoopy's lands, Smjjames's lands, and Yqt's lands off Nausikkak, but if you want Ezheatio still there at all, I'll have those lands somewhere else.
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merpu
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Actually hellpotatoe, you can keep Ezheatio stuck on Nausikkak as long as you only attach to Blaist Blaland because his borders aren't canon. Or you could do like Bongatar and have Ezheatio floating near to Nausikkak. I was thinking that if you really want to leave we could put Shmoopy's lands, Smjjames's lands, and Yqt's lands off Nausikkak, but if you want Ezheatio still there at all, I'll have those lands somewhere else.
Wat if I put my nations east of Tutoland? Then you can put their nations west of blaland...
Taken.
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East of tuto land?
You can just attach the Ezheatio to Nausikkak again because otherwise I'll put the other nations east of tuto land.
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East of tuto land?
You can just attach the Ezheatio to Nausikkak again because otherwise I'll put the other nations east of tuto land.
ok...
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wow so colorful I might die of freedom and eagles
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~ Taken ~
uh, sorry but i've taken it before.
Dont forget to add Yaagarinea and FLFF.
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Actually hellpotatoe, you can keep Ezheatio stuck on Nausikkak as long as you only attach to Blaist Blaland because his borders aren't canon. Or you could do like Bongatar and have Ezheatio floating near to Nausikkak. I was thinking that if you really want to leave we could put Shmoopy's lands, Smjjames's lands, and Yqt's lands off Nausikkak, but if you want Ezheatio still there at all, I'll have those lands somewhere else.
Wat if I put my nations east of Tutoland? Then you can put their nations west of blaland...
Taken.
I prefer my nation to be call Tutono.
:l
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Actually hellpotatoe, you can keep Ezheatio stuck on Nausikkak as long as you only attach to Blaist Blaland because his borders aren't canon. Or you could do like Bongatar and have Ezheatio floating near to Nausikkak. I was thinking that if you really want to leave we could put Shmoopy's lands, Smjjames's lands, and Yqt's lands off Nausikkak, but if you want Ezheatio still there at all, I'll have those lands somewhere else.
Wat if I put my nations east of Tutoland? Then you can put their nations west of blaland...
Taken.
I prefer my nation to be call Tutono.
:l
kol, i refer to dar nations as darland, atomic nations as nuelands, etc.
But ok.
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Actually hellpotatoe, you can keep Ezheatio stuck on Nausikkak as long as you only attach to Blaist Blaland because his borders aren't canon. Or you could do like Bongatar and have Ezheatio floating near to Nausikkak. I was thinking that if you really want to leave we could put Shmoopy's lands, Smjjames's lands, and Yqt's lands off Nausikkak, but if you want Ezheatio still there at all, I'll have those lands somewhere else.
Wat if I put my nations east of Tutoland? Then you can put their nations west of blaland...
Taken.
I prefer my nation to be call Tutono.
:l
kol, i refer to dar nations as darland, atomic nations as nuelands, etc.
But ok.
:)
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is this even in the right thread
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I HAS TAKEN IT FIRST, BUT OKAY >:(
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hellpotatoe, since you arn't complaining, i bet you arn't really editing, so i'm just going to ignore your takens if they take over 45 minutes.
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and, it takes less than 2 and a half hours to edit
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hellpotatoe, since you arn't complaining, i bet you arn't really editing, so i'm just going to ignore your takens if they take over 45 minutes.
I dont have "infinite acess" to this pc. And we have takens that lasts longer than one day in the past...
but okay. I will edit my map and say taken after.
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taken
Changelog
- Re-added Ezheato Penninsula
- Make it smaller
Notes
Add nationborders and names and stuff in teh future.
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taken
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'usfn map will you be my valentine'
'sorry i'm taken'
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although actually this is gud
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taken
hellpotatoe, since you arn't complaining, i bet you arn't really editing, so i'm just going to ignore your takens if they take over 45 minutes.
and, it takes less than 2 and a half hours to edit
If bong lojiks works to me, it works to naru too.
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no bong logic is selective in its targets
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no bong logic is selective in its targets
so I use bong lojik
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no naru's taken time is 2 weeks on average. keep waiting.
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no bong logic is selective in its targets
YE
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no naru's taken time is 2 weeks on average. keep waiting.
So why make this with ME? I'm not a good boy? D:/me cryes
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no that's only because i wanted to edit, and when naru said taken i was kinda done with bongatar so i waint that impatient
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no that's only because i wanted to edit, and when naru said taken i was kinda done with bongatar so i waint that impatient
If you wanted to edit, wheres the mapp? ¬¬
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where's your map?
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where's your mapp?
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg98944.html#msg98944 (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg98944.html#msg98944)
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well, it took more than 2.5 hours so that mapp is a moot point in our arguement
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well, it took more than 2.5 hours so that mapp is a moot point in our arguement
Oh, you mean
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg98886.html#msg98886 (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg98886.html#msg98886)
this one ^?
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t
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NO IDIOT THAT ONE WAS AFTER I TOLD YOU NOT BEFORE IDIOT . -.-
ogod...
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i said before i told you, you were taking 2.5hours or more to come up with a mapp, and i asked you where the mapp was that you spend 2.5 hours on.
and, there was no map, just a map you made a few more hours later
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i said before i told you, you were taking 2.5hours or more to come up with a mapp, and i asked you where the mapp was that you spend 2.5 hours on.
and, there was no map, just a map you made a few more hours later
i know right? So i've trowed my 'taken' in the trash and make'd a NEW one, and posted teh mapp like 30 min after.
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg98886.html#msg98886 (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg98886.html#msg98886)
^
Here.
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1. trublu climate of himalia
compare to
2. first steps climate of himalia
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mfw it seems you completely flipped the climate map upside down
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well...
himalia flipped upside down!
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well...
himalia flipped upside down!
Kol, it isn't a joke!
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taken when the clock reaches 11pm UTC
before then, anyone may go
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usforum time is still a better sense
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well...
himalia flipped upside down!
mfw
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well...
himalia flipped upside down!
mfw
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hold on i'm adding kaeshar, aahrus, shmupregions
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don't you have to ask yqt and smj and shm?
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i asked and they said yes
but now it's before school so i can't but i'll make it tonight
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whip - any suggs? ;D
your island chains don't look real and the ugly blob coming off the northern continent (west of Aeridani) is ew and your continent's north third (if not half) is pretty much tundra
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Well, since we have ponies and cats (that talk, think and have civilizations and stuff) on this world, can I have sumthings that are... surreal?
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i asked and they said yes
but now it's before school so i can't but i'll make it tonight
When did you ask me?
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yqt show me your plans!
show meee!
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His plans were islands off the Auspikitan Peninsula because I suggested he put them there.
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what is its latitude
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whip - any suggs? ;D
your island chains don't look real and the ugly blob coming off the northern continent (west of Aeridani) is ew and your continent's north third (if not half) is pretty much tundra
What "blob"?
as in parentheses: west of Aeridani
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ok at 60N and since it's on a polar continent it's almost guaranteed to be tundra unless you have some super powerful warm current going on like the north atlantic drift
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does this help?
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Inb4 Aeriduni
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I told you my a's look like u's!
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I told you my a's look like u's!
You not told to me. :c
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well 'you' didn't really mean you but I did say it in the IRC before
Note to self: Make graticuled basin maps.
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no current is wrong u hav a cold current along southweast coast
also another protip the circumpolar current is really freaking cold
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I'm not sure a circumpolar current exists anymore...
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>circumpolar current at Hadley Cells
antarctica
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FINALLY, I HAVE COMPLETED THE MAP. WELCOMING AAHRUS, KAESHAR, SHMUPLAND, AND PEORIA.
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meanwhile:
[08:20.52] <+matty406> is the thing to my northwest Arridanni?
[08:21.54] <+Yayas_Kitchen> no it's like auvellax d'ordenance or something
[08:22.11] <ekq> up slipping glacier
[08:22.18] <+rodafk> aka aeridani
[08:22.26] <ekq> Tf is an up slipping
[08:23.01] <+matty406> if they took that island i'll stab them with bullets
[08:23.26] <ekq> do it
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borrowed
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d
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taken
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heeheehee 69
*childish laughter*
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taken
zomg
so many one pixel sized islands!
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2 hours later
*sigh*
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2 hours later
*sigh*
Kolwat?
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Taken, going to maybe clean up the one pixel sized islands a bit or make them more into island chains.
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@hellpotatoe i thought you said taken when you quoted naru XD
@smjjames you should ask the person that controls the area if you're cleaning up their islands
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@smjjames you should ask the person that controls the area if you're cleaning up their islands
...which is smjjames
I'm just cleaning up the one pixel islands around Kaeshar and a bit around Ethanova,
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this (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1532)one
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Cleaned up the one pixel islands some to make it look more natural and less airbrushed. Also created a channel for the current that goes right through the archipelago.
Btw, that is a prime location for a major shipping port, like the way Singapore is.
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so everyone else is a composite location? dammit
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Composite location? It's a prime location in the way singapore is because it's situated in a narrow channel. I'm sure there are plenty of other locations that would be major trading ports.
I can see Kaeshar and Ethanova often competing for control (through war or otherwise) of the shipping lane though, unless they are like in the same trade league or something,
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bongatar?
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bongatar?
Circumpolar trade route maybe?
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yeah!]
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taken again
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nO SMJJAMES IT LOOKED CUTE
D:
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Cleaned up the one pixel islands some to make it look more natural and less airbrushed. Also created a channel for the current that goes right through the archipelago.
Btw, that is a prime location for a major shipping port, like the way Singapore is.
Kol, many kurrents go through Indonesia irl.
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Cleaned up the one pixel islands some to make it look more natural and less airbrushed. Also created a channel for the current that goes right through the archipelago.
Btw, that is a prime location for a major shipping port, like the way Singapore is.
Kol, many kurrents go through Indonesia irl.
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taken again
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borrowed
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returned
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mfw only 20 revs in the first 3 months and now there's been 20 revs in a week
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Cleaned up the one pixel islands some to make it look more natural and less airbrushed. Also created a channel for the current that goes right through the archipelago.
Btw, that is a prime location for a major shipping port, like the way Singapore is.
Kol, many kurrents go through Indonesia irl.
It just struck me as looking like it would be a major shipping lane, also I didn't remove that many, just tried to make it look a bit more natural (and fixed two small islands that looked like you forgot to put the white dot in the middle).
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>shipping
ok.
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kaesharxotp
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so that'll make a ott
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woah rev 72 already
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Our goals are of one. To become Prarie.
For great justice.
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i shud make a chart for bongatar too
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I declare these the climate of Aeridani
all your opinions are rejected
Where's tundra? :c
My opinion is that you're right. If its rejected, then you're actually wrong! OMG
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looks like Air's Den
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taken
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kol fiah, i see you posting on r/worldbuilding
i see you
i see you
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ok fiah
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taken
gggigiven
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Tkn yoyd g h gjt gbg nbi
testing out galaxy please might
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updated
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hey guys this spreadsheet should be used for canon
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgTvxKfJlBKWdHYtc3hPZHFjQVZWZ1FqUHZYTE16NVE#gid=0
protip: matty must agree to fiah's canon if it is before de'lafllele's interdependence
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i'm try :)
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i'm try more :D
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i'm try even more ;D
aand i'm done for the night, got bored of doing these.
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then you're not trying hard enough
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in case you're wondering why i put assorted city-states it's because otherwise there would be about 500 different colors on the map.
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many cities
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is there a base picture, or is it all in layers?
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i'm in a himalian mood recently
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one level of rearrangement
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Astkwn is still mirrored sir.
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paint.net has no function for that >:(
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GIMP is better.
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atomic le suggers
protip: paint.net has like twice as much pluginsinsins
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GIMP doesn't need as many plugins anyway :P
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GIMP doesn't need as many plugins anyway :P
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if i was a motivated man
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this should be renamed to himalian map spam topic
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Himalia spam for the last page, what the hell?
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Himalia spam for the last page, what the hell?
Well, they're official mapps, so they're okay.
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so
gimmi the lastest official ampp
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forgot to bold the 'f'
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you forgot the 'l'
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Since everything have to be different of earth, why we use base 10 here? Why no base 12 or sumthing moar exotic (7, 6, 13, idk?)
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lets use the base the same as the number of small appendages that the saguans have per hand
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lets use the base the same as the number of small appendages that the saguans have per hand
How much?
Hey Darv, what if all my nations have a majority of saguans (like 70-80%)?
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Soleani use base 16 probably
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saguans have 5 appendages on each foot, 4 on each hand
so base 8.
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saguans have 5 appendages on each foot, 4 on each hand
so base 8.
Yay.
Hey Darv, what if all my nations have a majority of saguans (like 70-80%)?
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altho humans still have 5 fingers so base 10 is also in existence
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ewww
*continues counting in base ten because fuck the conversions, you won't only have to learn other languages, you'd have to RE-LEARN MATH
it's the same math
seriously
just different representation, much like different alphabets have different characters for the same sounds
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Hey Darv, what if all my nations have a majority of saguans (like 70-80%)?
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i don't govern your nations so it doesn't concern me
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i don't govern your nations so it doesn't concern me
saguans = darvincyan property
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i don't care if the entire world is all saguans or if the entire world (except the saguan nations) is all humans
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i don't care if the entire world is all saguans or if the entire world (except the saguan nations) is all humans
ok, so my nations will be 90-98% saguans :D
Whats teh saguan main language?
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hellpotatoe the saguans in your area probably speak a different language from the saguans that live in sagua, height sagua, etc so just go with your own languages. they're no different from humans in that regard.
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hellpotatoe the saguans in your area probably speak a different language from the saguans that live in sagua, height sagua, etc so just go with your own languages. they're no different from humans in that regard.
I know, I only wanna make sumthing moar 'detailed' to make seems like my saguan language has evolved from yours.
I care.
*decides whether to discriminate against ponies and saguans or not*
I don't care about Aeridani, so go ahead.
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NO HELLPOTATOE STOP WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE POKÉMONS
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NO HELLPOTATOE STOP WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE POKÉMONS
I DONT WANT THEM
I WAS KIDDING
AND TAKEN TO REMOVE MY NATIONS BEKAUSE THIS IS SERIOUS!
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NON
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what are you removing stuff for
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because he thinks the history is nonsensicle since matty declared that his people moved from the lowest tech tree to the best one in like 100 AD to 1100 AD
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because he thinks the history is nonsensicle since matty declared that his people moved from the lowest tech tree to the best one in like 100 AD to 1100 AD
and bekause united solar empires
and history is nonsensicle because *EVERYTHING* (mostly of it is, at least). It isn't only mattything.
And because ponies
And no evolutionary history for saguans
And bad mapp "continuity"
and(...)
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[03:38.57] <vh> ubv talk about universalis?
[03:38.58] <ubv3375> Oh the failure
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no evolutionary history for saguans?
that's for later to decide you mothersugger.
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no evolutionary history for saguans?
that's for later to decide you mothersugger.
Later when? The mapp isnt finished? When it will be?
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never, really
people just keep adding more things like borders and perfecting everything etc.
maybe we should have like a time limit and the number of times you can edit, and once that's done we can do w/e
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Okay, I declare that the coastline will be frozen and no longer able to be edited after April 1, 11:00 UTC.
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Okay, I declare that the coastline will be frozen and no longer able to be edited after April 1, 11:00 UTC.
NARU, REDRAW MY NATIONS AS YOU LIKE (it need of have around the size of blaland :P) AND I WILL BE HAPPY!
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Kol. You have a month.
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ok, i declare everything must be done by may and the map will be completely complete for all of time
then we can do another time period yay!
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then we can do another time period yay!
Inb4 Community USForum Mapp: Season 2
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this map is in year 0.
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no you mother this map is year <current year AD - 1399> so 614
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no i was told it was year 0!
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why did the hawaiians teleport to northern de'laflel
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no i was told it was year 0!
there is a big difference between a mod that you are taking a ton of time on, and a map that we'll never finish
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i was told this map was year 0
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This map is year 614.
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This map is year 614.
Cool.
I thought this map was in a modern era or something, but ok.
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614 is modern era
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614 is modern era
Oh...
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make the necessary changes
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Taken to make gigantic shipyards
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Taken to make gigantic shipyards
Don't mess up on the shipyards. :)
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takn after hellpotatoe
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Muhahahahaha- given
NAW KALM DOWN BONG
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this might thake a while
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am I like the only one here who sees no point in extremely massive engineering projects just to make a fucking hundred cities on a couple gigantic piers
tell that to the dutch
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am I like the only one here who sees no point in extremely massive engineering projects just to make a fucking hundred cities on a couple gigantic piers
tell that to the dutch
who have extremely flat land and did not make massive shipyards jutting out a hundred miles into the north sea so they could build more ships
Ok Taken after fiha.
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- Removed Shipyards
- Added Rivers
- Added Nation Names
- Added Geographic Names
Notes
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Make Flags
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LAST MAJOR UPDATE FOR BONGATAR
Deleted an island
Added 2 more islands.
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what's with the lack of babby in the southwest
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I like how there is a "ppl way" in the north.
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I like how there is a "ppl way" in the north.
It is a transcontinental railroad going over the boreal forests of the plateau.
Since when roads are populated? :P
Anyway, güd work bro.
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Changelog
- 'Nerfed' the Free Lands of Free Freedom, now it is more like a bunch of united anarcho-capitalist cities. Its also know as Godoma;
- Edited Yagaarinea;
- Added the problematic nation of Sodomorra (think of it like a VERY extremist capitalist uhhh... better: it looks like Israel + Taliban, and their relations with FLFF and Yagaarinea are like the ones between Israel and the Gaza Strip.
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So...?
I doubt that every kilometer of your road is populated. If it is... well, ok.
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FiahOwl, you think your desert has no people, but think about Phoenix and Tucson for a minute. Just think about it. Then, realize that there will at least be people along the coast.
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sand man
rofl
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KOL
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And, anyway, if we can have lunar colonies why we cant... nvm.
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wips
the dots are current large cities for reference later
similar colors are similar cultures but the difference in color does not necessarily mean that the culture is more or less similar
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can someone heelp me make the correct mapp for Bongatar? THanks
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what
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"Eastern Standart Time
Weastern Standart Time"
You should put 'Aeridanish' or something before this, because it isnt the standart for west and east.
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universalis' nations are not even close to real life nations, so n
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universalis' nations are not even close to real life nations, so n
+1
And fiah, the problem is that you used "standart eastern" and "standart weastern"
only one is gud enough
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Only one = Keep one of them (well, Weastern Time would be good) and change the name of the other.
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I'm not sure tuto will be happy living in Standard Aeridanish Time
Lol. I don't care.
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oh okay then
taken
Oh, and please, finish the 'trips' around the world, so we can edit them as needed
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also there should not be 24 time zones unless our hours are longer
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taken
given
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fiah do i need to remind to you that the north and south coasts are also transitional
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another thing, aeridani is now so close to ethanthova that they'll know about it already
also stop squishing the damn serkr
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they'll know about aeridani lands before they go off into the unknown to colonize
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you ponies are crazy
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so mani tribes
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nue wanted to see the progress
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well that method is useful
omg there will be so much boreal forest... cute
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i got a plugin that allows paint.net to save in .psd so that i can use it in gimp as well
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aw yiss psd format
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omg i'm really mad!
i did more currents for bongatar, but then i clicked out of ocean currents and they were still there! so was i suppose to do them blindy andhow!!
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???
not sure what you mean, i had the oceanic layers on, which layers am i suppose to take off? if i take all of them off then i can't see anything but arrows
btw untakend
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ah
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inb4 impossible currents
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amalthea climate almost finished
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taken - TRYING to fix the ocean currents
given
look and say if its good :D
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ouch those steppes
cute map
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wipp mapp
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That river in the south and the one east of it.... They are unrealistic. But the other rivers are fine.
"That river in the south" are actually 4 rivers. One goes to north, other to south, other to west and the last to southeast.
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ouch those steppes
cute map
Kol, no those diagonal steppes are actually the highland color from the other climate mapp type.
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ouch those steppes
cute map
Kol, no those diagonal steppes are actually the highland color from the other climate mapp type.
Like the south island/blob, right?
I was going to ask you what kind of climate it was.
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amalthea climate finished
also the south blob was just so i could get the highland color again if i needed it
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tkn
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naw with height mapp basis to darv/anyone that wants make a better version
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ouch those steppes
cute map
Kol, no those diagonal steppes are actually the highland color from the other climate mapp type.
wait what? No I was talking about the big blob in Nausikaa and stuff.
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i did a cute thing
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no
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sry i'm late i'll upload it tom.
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i did an enlarged thing
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naw with height mapp basis to darv/anyone that wants make a better version
Since no one complained about it being bad or not realistic, this is cannon now. I will maek teh climate.
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naw with height mapp basis to darv/anyone that wants make a better version
Since no one complained about it being bad or not realistic, this is cannon now. I will maek teh climate.
. . . I actually was silently crying in my room by the fact it's sort of bad.
SINCE NO ONE COMPLAINED
ITS CANNON
CRY
CRY MOAR
Edit: Take this sort of bad climate mapp too
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yay, do it please :D
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I didn't redo it because I felt if i redid it I would completely redo it and you'd hate me because I'd change teh coastline as well.
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I didn't redo it because I felt if i redid it I would completely redo it and you'd hate me because I'd change teh coastline as well.
Well, you can do it, since its full of saguan nations I feel like forced to give you permission (not that I dont want :P)
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how the fuck
What the prob?
I think that you didn't get it. There is a 'water complex' in the mountain top, and from it flow 4 rivers.
If you mean the river going to north, I didn't made the lake that should be at it end. The lake was going to have a cave or something like this, and the river should go underground on it.
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Fix'd my internal borders being on the wrong layer
Added my internal borders
Added shipyards
Also, mudkipz and darvince, you put your shipyards on the wrony layer, their suppose to be in artificial objects
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unrealistic tho
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ok
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oops i mean 86
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*looks at southern bongatar*
i need to distort
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taken
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guide to properly distorting landmasses so they look normal:
first, split your landmass into horizontal slices. if you're north of 40 degrees latitude i suggest 3 or 4 sections. Make more sections nearer the poles
so like this:
-pole
| all section 1
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| all section 2
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| all section 3
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-equator
etc.
then, you will need to know the y positions of the tops and bottoms of all your new slices/sections.
F=1024/sqrt(1024^2-d^2)
d is the distance from a point to the equator of the map.
you fine F and then
(guide tbc tommorow).
continues this, i demand
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can we have a map for just 2d map and a map for our planet?
credit to: hellpotatoe
who first thought of it
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can we have a map for just 2d map and a map for our planet?
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that way one or the other doesn't have to look ulgy
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Changelog:
Fix'd my internal borders being on the wrong layer
Added my internal borders
Added shipyards
Also, mudkipz and darvince, you put your shipyards on the wrony layer, their suppose to be in artificial objects
bong, your mapp should be number 86, not 85
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oops i mean 86
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I don't usually pay that much attention to the universalis stuff, plus I was reading fast anyway.....
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not an excuse!
F-
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kol
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tkns
this will be a quick fix
with my island
edit: Changelog
more currents
bongatar's soutehrn islands moved up
i should have colored more currents, but w/e
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tkn for fiah
[19:25] <+FiahOwl> taken
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hey guys maybe we should get the plugin for paint.net that allows loading .psd so we can change to .psd and be able to open it in gimp, paint.net, or photoshop
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if we do that make sure to make backups frequently, if you aren't using photoshop.
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if i use paint.net what should i do
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kill yourself
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kill yourself
Excuse you paint.net is actually good
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no i just wanted to say that because i'm a pony
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akkumixi mapp w/ urban areas and habited areas :D
estimated pop: 40271780
26.9% rural
73.1% urban
Key:
Orange is urban
Yellow is suburban
Green is rural
White is uninhabited or less than 1 person/sqkm
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fixed
Thank you for destroy the lojiks on Aiyota currents. TAKEN TO FIX
Edit: And fiah, unless that swonx gives Aiyota to you or permission to edit it as you like, STOP DOING THIS.
YOU FUCKING MOVE AIYOTA EVERYTIME THAT YOU WANT SOMETHING TO AERIDANI (like cold/warm currents)
YOU HAVE ONLY THE FUCKING RIGHT OF MOVE AERIDANI, NOT AIYOTA!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
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how do you even west akkumixi rivers
kyivan rus'
idk just something i will delete later when i make the large amalthea map
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FixingFiahfails argh
FixingFiahfails "The United Solar Empire"
FixingFiahfails wheres Aeridanish or something?
FixingFiahfails It should'nt be "Aeridanish Solar Empire"?
Kalassak North Korea doesn't call themselves north
Kalassak south korea doesn't call themselves south
Kalassak why should aeridani call themselves aeridani
Kalassak they feel they own the solar system they are not aeridani
Kalassak even though all they is is aeridani
FixingFiahfails but both koreas kall themselves korea
FixingFiahfails You see "korea" and "korea" in the mapps?
Kalassak i think all countries should be called by their own names
Kalassak the point is, a country that claims it owns everything can call itself "The Kingdom of Everything" even if they don't
Kalassak on the map it SHOULD BE
Kalassak republic of korea
Kalassak and democratic people's republic of korea
FixingFiahfails well
FixingFiahfails so I can make issagga be called The Queensdom of Universalis?
FixingFiahfails :3
Kalassak of course
FixingFiahfails yay
Given :D
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Notes:
To do:
- Claim lunar kolonies
- Make dominions
- Make kolonies in:
- Kolokia
- Sumwhere near (but not very much) aeridani
- sumwhere near aiyota/tutono
- Ask Fiah, swonx, tuto and (idk who to Kolokia) to maek this kolonies near them
- Ask peace/friendship/ally to the United Solar Empire
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fiah your north serkr currents are complete bullshit
taken
also there's currents that are colored that only go like 5 degrees
ARGH!
STOP EDITING CURRENTS!
THEY DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE
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THEY WERE LIKE
THIS SIDE OF MAPP, IT GOES >>>>>>>>THIS SIDE, IT GOES <<<<<<<<<
AND VICE VERSA
THE WATER IS GENERATED BETWEEN THEM?
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr
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how do you even west akkumixi rivers
the terrain there is like teh southern india
also i would like to inform you all of the existence of the equatorial countercurrent that exists very close to the equator and flows east
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fuck you hellpotatoe those are my nations' waters, i will control the currents of them!!
tkn
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and you fucking changed my current lines and made them into my islands and change my colors
fuck you and all your constitutents, hellpotatoe, i'm reverting
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What colors and you can do you currents 'as you like', but be realistic bong!
And taken.
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kolokia is like antarctica though
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kolokia is like antarctica though
but i want a piece :B
fixed
Thank you for destroy the lojiks on Aiyota currents. TAKEN TO FIX
Edit: And fiah, unless that swonx gives Aiyota to you or permission to edit it as you like, STOP DOING THIS.
YOU FUCKING MOVE AIYOTA EVERYTIME THAT YOU WANT SOMETHING TO AERIDANI (like cold/warm currents)
YOU HAVE ONLY THE FUCKING RIGHT OF MOVE AERIDANI, NOT AIYOTA!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
I did not move Aiota. Darvince did.
SORRY IM A FAGG
FixingFiahfails argh
FixingFiahfails "The United Solar Empire"
FixingFiahfails wheres Aeridanish or something?
FixingFiahfails It should'nt be "Aeridanish Solar Empire"?
Kalassak North Korea doesn't call themselves north
Kalassak south korea doesn't call themselves south
Kalassak why should aeridani call themselves aeridani
Kalassak they feel they own the solar system they are not aeridani
Kalassak even though all they is is aeridani
FixingFiahfails but both koreas kall themselves korea
FixingFiahfails You see "korea" and "korea" in the mapps?
Kalassak i think all countries should be called by their own names
Kalassak the point is, a country that claims it owns everything can call itself "The Kingdom of Everything" even if they don't
Kalassak on the map it SHOULD BE
Kalassak republic of korea
Kalassak and democratic people's republic of korea
FixingFiahfails well
FixingFiahfails so I can make issagga be called The Queensdom of Universalis?
FixingFiahfails :3
Kalassak of course
FixingFiahfails yay
Given :D
The full name is the United Solar Empire of Aeridani. You see the United States of America calling themselves the United States, can't I do the same?
OK, no prob
I also do not feel like I own the entire solar system. I simply have set up 1 or 2 moon bases.
It isnt me that sayd that
fiah your north serkr currents are complete bullshit
taken
also there's currents that are colored that only go like 5 degrees
ARGH!
STOP EDITING CURRENTS!
THEY DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE
I did not touch the currents at all. In my revision the only thing I did was editing the TIME ZONES.
Notes:
To do:
- Claim lunar kolonies
- Make dominions
- Make kolonies in:
- Kolokia
- Sumwhere near (but not very much) aeridani Sorry, but no. Ok :(
- sumwhere near aiyota/tutono
- Ask Fiah, swonx, tuto and (idk who to Kolokia) Kolokia is uncolonized, grab a slice? to maek this kolonies near them
- Ask peace/friendship/ally to the United Solar Empire Chance is succeeding: "Maybe"yay
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AND I'LL TAKE A PIECE TOO THANKS
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Added kolonies. Go see them, I lazy to list.
DONT USE THIS
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fuck you hellpotatoe those are my nations' waters, i will control the currents of them!!
tkn
wtf you stole my city idea! and you stole my map #!
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fuck you hellpotatoe those are my nations' waters, i will control the currents of them!!
tkn
wtf you stole my city idea! and you stole my map #!
city idea wtf? I dont even have make cities ._.
"« Last Edit: Today at 18:57:47 by bong »"
^What colors and you can do you currents 'as you like', but be realistic bong!
And taken.
Posted on: Today at 18:54:43
Dont try to fool me
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no kallisto explodes any colonies on kolokia :)
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fuck you hellpotatoe those are my nations' waters, i will control the currents of them!!
tkn
wtf you stole my city idea! and you stole my map #!
city idea wtf? I dont even have make cities ._.
"« Last Edit: Today at 18:57:47 by bong »"
^What colors and you can do you currents 'as you like', but be realistic bong!
And taken.
Posted on: Today at 18:54:43
Dont try to fool me
i posted before yu
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fuck you hellpotatoe those are my nations' waters, i will control the currents of them!!
tkn
wtf you stole my city idea! and you stole my map #!
city idea wtf? I dont even have make cities ._.
"« Last Edit: Today at 18:57:47 by bong »"
^What colors and you can do you currents 'as you like', but be realistic bong!
And taken.
Posted on: Today at 18:54:43
Dont try to fool me
i posted before yu
"« Last Edit: Today at 18:57:47 by bong »"
so I can go on my first psot here, edit, and all mapps then will be invalid?
NO
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no, i posted my map fisrt.
other people posted their maps BEFOre you
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oh, didn't see the mapp there.
So taken again Waiting for bong korrection of his mapp, taken after him.
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Have I ever mentioned how boring it is when you guys fight over ocean currents.
Sometimes I wonder what it'd be like to be losers like you. :P
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idk why you're so negative here yqt
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@hellpot what correction wat?
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Your mapp is worng, cause you has
taken THIS MAPP
AND NOT THIS ONE. THIS ONE IS THE ONE THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE
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Have I ever mentioned how boring it is when you guys fight over ocean currents.
Sometimes I wonder what it'd be like to be losers like you. :P
they're unrealistic
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Have I ever mentioned how boring it is when you guys fight over ocean currents.
Sometimes I wonder what it'd be like to be losers like you. :P
they're unrealistic
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Whoever does the map next, erase Aahrus. I don't want to be on the map anymore.
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no you do
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no you do
The USFN shit lately has me done, I didn't want to be in it in the first place and I don't want to be in it anymore.
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no you do
The USFN shit lately has me done, I didn't want to be in it in the first place and I don't want to be in it anymore.
you sound like the western roman emperor
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i'm really confused
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no you do
The USFN shit lately has me done, I didn't want to be in it in the first place and I don't want to be in it anymore.
you sound like the western roman emperor
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like what exactly is happening
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Have I ever mentioned how boring it is when you guys fight over ocean currents.
Sometimes I wonder what it'd be like to be losers like you. :P
(http://i.imgur.com/vqXGZNW.gif)
Sorry, but what is this showing about me?
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taken, i'm editing off of version 85 (last version before controversy started), also someone borked the northeast coast of ska so whoever it was fix it
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NO VH DO 90 AT LEAST
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mudkipz what the fuck
92 was the controversy
USE 91!!!
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a different kind of productive tonight
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mudkipz what the fuck
92 was the controversy
USE 91!!!
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Since you guys are obviously intent on trolling each other.... here ya go! ;D
Edit: Put up a smaller sized file (at 75% quality, heh) for those that do want to view it.
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no one is trolling on one and i have no idea what you're trying to say
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Nvm, they were arguing and being silly at each other, so I was making a joke.
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>bit silly
This is srs business
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http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,9253.0.html (http://ow.ly/iWNrM)
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watch out that's a hyper link
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watch out that's a hyper link
FACK YOU
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bong is dumb
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Updated the map.
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what why did the name get all weird and capitalized
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what why did the name get all weird and capitalized
Because I didn't like it all uncapitalized and stuff.
Don't judge me
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welp, it's not offocial
INVALID MAP DETECTED
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import restore
raw_input("version?")
map = "universalis_world %s" version
restore.map(version)
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uploaded and also a blaist-centric map which I prefer better
This is of good.
Just to note, the coastlines are now fixed, right?
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polykol
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i'm fine
but we really should have a map for ubox and a map like this
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Taken
"The Queensdom of Universalis" thingie was a joke btw
Since we cant edit coaslines anymoar, I dont think that we still need to number the mapp, right?
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fix'd
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what are you talking about?
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protip: since this went inactive coastline editing gets extended to 2013/04/30
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Kol, taken.
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someone post the png map thanks
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Note: Coastline made, but still need of make the 'outline' (in black 2px). Only posting this so bong dont complain about my time to edit mapps.
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map?
Uhh... still being edited..
Edit: Since you want it, its here.
With png for bongs ;D
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WTF wrong map my internal borders are showing
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WTF wrong map my internal borders are showing
no, it was the mapp given by fiah. It isnt my fault :)
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fiah! use the lattest map not map 80
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Updated the map.
I used this map Bong.
And isn't it as simple as turning the internal borders layer off?
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no because before i did the layers wrong and i had to fix the layers of my internal borders but not it got unfix'f
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no because before i did the layers wrong and i had to fix the layers of my internal borders but not it got unfix'f
I can fix it to you :)
Edit: Uhh... your internal borders are inside "Internal Borders" layer. Theres noffin wrong ???
Edit²: Oh, the southern islands thingy. Fix'd. I will make my internal borders too :)
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oh really?
look at my southern islands! fiah used the wrong fix and now my southern islands borders are all mixed up and i fix that like before
P.S. just use magic wand and move the internal borders for the southern islands if you have time
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Here you are :)
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yay hellpotatoe!!
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zoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
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that looks like mars
*suspicious*
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that looks like mars
*suspicious*
huh? no.
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Well it looks suspiciously worldgen'd...
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that looks like mars
*suspicious*
Mars is usually land in one hemisphere (southern I think) and the rest is ocean
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takwn
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Deoxy do you want Spheron Rilmu on here?
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change the topic
darvince
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oh and fyi i might take me 24 more hours until the map will be uploaded
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that looks like mars
*suspicious*
Mars is usually land in one hemisphere (southern I think) and the rest is ocean
Half of Mars is above sea level, which is the southern hemisphere, so yeah the northern hemisphere would be underwater if there were oceans on Mars.
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that looks like mars
*suspicious*
Mars is usually land in one hemisphere (southern I think) and the rest is ocean
Half of Mars is above sea level, which is the southern hemisphere, so yeah the northern hemisphere would be underwater if there were oceans on Mars.
Depending on where sea level is.
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that looks like mars
*suspicious*
Mars is usually land in one hemisphere (southern I think) and the rest is ocean
Half of Mars is above sea level, which is the southern hemisphere, so yeah the northern hemisphere would be underwater if there were oceans on Mars.
Depending on where sea level is.
Anyway, my mapp isnt from mars
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that looks like mars
*suspicious*
Mars is usually land in one hemisphere (southern I think) and the rest is ocean
Half of Mars is above sea level, which is the southern hemisphere, so yeah the northern hemisphere would be underwater if there were oceans on Mars.
Depending on where sea level is.
Here's an elevation map of Mars. Once again this proves my statement, like what Fiah did. :)
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwdiGmBLeqfVxC9s7jhMCwSD6sFzOfuIQ34SwHMAo-2K0fDtbh)
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Either way, it most certainly is fractionally generated (to my disgust)
Well, this make it moar realistic anyway. At least for me.
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derailed
(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu175/SparkyDClown/derailed-train-derailed-thread-demo.jpg)
again.
can we get back on topic :P
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derailed
(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu175/SparkyDClown/derailed-train-derailed-thread-demo.jpg)
again.
can we get back on topic :P
Technically, it still of on the topic. My islands are of on the mapp anyway, and this thread is of about our mapp
of ftw!
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Either way, it most certainly is fractionally generated (to my disgust)
Well, this make it moar realistic anyway. At least for me.
It actually makes it far, far far less realistic than what you had before.
But make it far easy to make a zoomed map. Well, anyway, you can "re-do" it. I'm very lazy to make it go back.
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woo got 100
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noooo you did get of 100
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kol himalia
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Is the dark teal covering Tutono and Tunio a Tutonian culture?
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i did? oh that's what looked messed up
like something was missing but i couldn't pinpoint it
editing again
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i am going to edit this later (the culture)
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i am going to fix himatalia borders after nue does a thing
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the borders but that's the actual map I will be editing the cultures side thibg
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no i takened it already!!
"editing again"
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how i see usf culture groups
himalia i know of nothing
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Issagga culture sortaof
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calm down i'm uploading
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fiahowl, yqt said to remove aahrus from this stupid mapp
fix'd
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fiahowl, yqt said to remove aahrus from this stupid mapp
fix'd
No, I got re-added as a city state instead of an island.
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oh fuck someone merge the mapps please
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how i see usf culture groups
himalia i know of nothing because i haven't worked on it
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how i see usf culture groups
himalia i know of nothing because i haven't worked on it
HEY, YUO SKIP OF MY MAPP
GRRRRRRRRRRR
Fix'd
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oh fuck, but the 2 pixal one is too small
oh well, uploading
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oh fuck, but the 2 pixal one is too small
oh well, uploading
WTF? ???
Its bigger than 1px
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nevermind
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okay, got another revision
or, we could put it like in between hellpot land and BlaLand,
because it liek moved there over hundreds of years
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hey you better not be editing my islands!!
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If it's already not too late then I'll possibly renovating Loviniosa for the 999th time. Since my laptop died I'll probably finish it by next week or so. Just don't edit the area around my area.
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a locking date is stupid and the reasons for one are stupid
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it's so we can progress and move forward
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what can't we progress with while the map borders are undetermined?
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possibleism
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what if you made a large link to lysteriok, like, five hundred km or more
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i would but i'd need matty's acceptance of that
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WTF FIAH YOU DIDN'T USE MY LASTEST MAPP, MY ISLANDS IS NOT THERE
YOUR MAP IS VETOED
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WTF FIAH YOU DIDN'T USE MY LASTEST MAPP, MY ISLANDS IS NOT THERE
YOUR MAP IS VETOED
No.
it still is 1px thick. . . Thereforth your revision is not official for the third time
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STFU HELLPOTATOE IT'S NOT 1PX THICK YOU WEREN'T ON THE IRC FIAH FOUND OUT
GOO LOOK CLOSER
VETOED!!
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*vetoes this thread*
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oh i forgot to unlock it
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is this thread how congress works
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close.
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Dis mapp doesnt work very well... everybody have an island-koltinent, or a very isolated thingy...
Fiah, wheres the fiah-comunity mapp? I will try to maek of things on it
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Taken, I'm going to change Tutono's shape.
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Here 'ya go. I gave Tutono a better look, as well as Tunio. Also edited their names. :)
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of Taken
of Given
Added Islands
Turned the 22 issaggan nations into 7
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taken
given
- Added Pikakreisani "Princesspalities"
- Added Jakopafekswuni "Countessys"
- Added Uskekteyani/Uskekte'ani Admnistrative Regions
- Added Plesikeiaskeeni Admnistrative Regions
- Added Kepuskipaseni Admnistrative Regions
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what is going on here
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fd
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So has the coastline locked?:P
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it will never lock
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Oh no, it never ENDS D:/me run
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Coastline locks on the 27th. Coincidentally it's 5:27 in the morning right now.
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about 0.0001% percent chance of that happening
and if it does, then people are going to be like "nooo"
and it's going to take days to sort out
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no it will lock on 6/3, (after the weekend)
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OMG, ONLY MARCH SIX OF 2014 THAT THE COASTLINE WILL FIX
I just figured that it will never really fix at all
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Did the map name, Universalis, ever actually get changed or was Fiah high that day like he always is?
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ok
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I almost broke my brain, but I have solved it! Here is basic Nausikkak+Ezheatio/Issagga geology.
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psd?
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yes psd is compatible with GIMP, photoshop and with paint.net (with plugin)
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aww yiss psd
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quick place it in an extremely inconvenient place
also fiah the coast locks 6/3 after the weekend
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T-t-t-test starter
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c-c-c-c-combo breaker!
Added Issaggan ice-age water levels
And yes, this big amount of 'land' between Issagga and the 'weastern island' is supposed to be there
Its a very-very-very shallow ocean, 'today'. I plan to create species and stuff to put there, and maybe even old civilizations that once existed on this 'ex-koltinental area', that sank on sea..
kol, good for mythology and stuff
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strange but pleasant.
What do the colours on the flag represent?
They are the pan-Issaggan kolors.
Darker red-The human blood, spilled during the War of MABeS (War of Mutual Aggression Between Species, that sorta of started when nazi-saguans hated not only jews, but all the humanity)
Red-The saguan blood, spilled during the War of MABeS
White-The snow under their feets, during the war
They Yellow symbol is a very old symbol, that represent the four casts in Falpwunyaran culture. I will make a scheme to explain.
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strange but pleasant.
What do the colours on the flag represent?
They are the pan-Issaggan kolors.
Darker red-The human blood, spilled during the War of MABeS (War of Mutual Aggression Between Species, that sorta of started when nazi-saguans hated not only jews, but all the humanity)
Red-The saguan blood, spilled during the War of MABeS
White-The snow under their feets, during the war
They Yellow symbol is a very old symbol, that represent the four casts in Falpwunyaran culture. I will make a scheme to explain.
Scheme to explain.
The 'level' of the casts, higher to lower:
Faššerruššapw (Fajerujapwu (Purple)) - Nobility and "Special-Cats"
Falpwunyara is a Queendom, this you should already know. The Two Families whose members can assume the throne fit this caste, which also belong to other lesser nobles and appointed nobles. "Special-Cats" are those who have a certain pattern of spots and stripes, which is very rare to occur, or that has a certain spot in a certain format around one eye. Those are sometimes 'added' to one of the Two Families.
Vwnkkapa (Vwunkkapa (Orange)) - "Pure Cats/Humans"
Cats without any spot/stripe, and with "pure" colors (only white, only black, only orange, etc), and humans with "pure" colors (only black, only dark-brown, only white) fit here. They normally are seen as "better" cats/humans, but this only makes difference in culture and religion.
Ksorrakkapa (Csorakkapa (Red)) - "Impure Cats/Humans"
Cats whit spots/stripes/body parts of different colors, Humans of "mixed colors" (not Black/Dark-Brown/White). They are seen as "impure", but, again, this only makes difference in culture and religion.
Green -
WIP
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strange but pleasant.
What do the colours on the flag represent?
They are the pan-Issaggan kolors.
Darker red-The human blood, spilled during the War of MABeS (War of Mutual Aggression Between Species, that sorta of started when nazi-saguans hated not only jews, but all the humanity)
Red-The saguan blood, spilled during the War of MABeS
White-The snow under their feets, during the war
They Yellow symbol is a very old symbol, that represent the four casts in Falpwunyaran culture. I will make a scheme to explain.
Scheme to explain.
The 'level' of the casts, higher to lower:
Faššerruššapw (Fajerujapwu (Purple)) - Nobility and "Special-Cats"
Falpwunyara is a Queendom, this you should already know. The Two Families whose members can assume the throne fit this caste, which also belong to other lesser nobles and appointed nobles. "Special-Cats" are those who have a certain pattern of spots and stripes, which is very rare to occur, or that has a certain spot in a certain format around one eye. Those are sometimes 'added' to one of the Two Families.
Vwnkkapa (Vwunkkapa (Orange)) - "Pure Cats/Humans"
Cats without any spot/stripe, and with "pure" colors (only white, only black, only orange, etc), and humans with "pure" colors (only black, only dark-brown, only white) fit here. They normally are seen as "better" cats/humans, but this only makes difference in culture and religion.
Red -
Green -
WIP
v.voskubenko: Your flag is not a flag, but is a nuke button.
Hellpotatoe: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! :'(
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Hellpotatoe: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! :'(
v.voskubenko: BOOM !!! I WON !!! MUHAHAHHAHAHAHA !!! :D :D :D
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wtf
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TAKEN
HURRY UP BONG I HAVE MAP I NEED TO PUT ON BEFORE 6/- OH CRAP.NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I HAVE
ANOTHER AIYOTI COAST THE WORLD IS ENDING!!1!!!1!one11!1!!!!
bong trolls with takens (he says taken then never gives it back) so let's extend the lock to 6/10
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october sixth? ok
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im almost done
with mw2 turn then will start on this map
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no kip
2013-06-10
YYYY-MM-DD
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no kip
2013-06-10
YYYY-MM-DD
You make no sense
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no kip
2013-06-10
YYYY-MM-DD
You make no sense
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no kip
2013-06-10
YYYY-MM-DD
You make no sense
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we should extend it to july 1
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we should extend it to july 1
Darv said October 6th, not July 1st.
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calm down people! we already have the hole year and you want 1 more
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no i said june 10th because bong is a poopie and his takens last like 5 to 7 days
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we should extend it to july 1
Darv said October 6th, not July 1st.
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ok fine i'll do euroscrewy dates
it locks on 10-06-2013
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untaken
i'll re-taken later
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no i said june 10th because bong is a poopie and his takens last like 5 to 7 days
AND HE FUCKING COMPLAIN WHEN MY TAKEN LASTS 3 FUCKING HOURS
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no need to cross that out, it's totally valid hellpotatoe :
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there ye fiahowl
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uhhhh you took West Auspikitan's most densely populated area and capital (the peninsula) and gave it to Wyverncliff when he didn't even put a border that allowed himself that land...
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when I took the map it said iphqualik
I didn't do that so I assumed you did it
Ihpqalik is nowhere near and should not be part of this concern at all???
Edit: I changed it myself, compare it with TMC's version, the border is much closer and doesn't take this peninsula (now you know which one I'm talking about I hope?)
Dtersaauw Sagua - /dˠeɹsɑʊˑw sɑgwə/
Aitessek Naus - /aɪtɛsɛk nɑːs/
Anerum-Oklaki - /æneɹʌm ɑklɑki/
Seigaikyyr Auspikitan - /seɪgaɪkiɨɹ ɑːspɪkɪtæn/
Aovensiiv - /ɑwvɛnsaɪʔɛv/
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Must into download paint.net
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I was here
hue hue hue
ho ho ho
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what the heckie is this
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i think he tried to draw a tectonic plate map
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i think he tried to draw a tectonic plate map
"Howaiyotaseestheworld.png"
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i think that's mspaint not paint.net
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taken after fiah
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wth
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what the heckie happened to darvincia
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darvincia never collided with anything
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darvincia never collided with anything
Nor does Issagga. Wait, well, it collided with Nausikkak "recently".
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you are correct
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this is why i quit travian
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this is why i quit travian
wut is this? c:
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heer
Your mapp is not official, cause its named 112 and theres a 113 one \/
when I took the map it said iphqualik
I didn't do that so I assumed you did it
Ihpqalik is nowhere near and should not be part of this concern at all???
Edit: I changed it myself, compare it with TMC's version, the border is much closer and doesn't take this peninsula (now you know which one I'm talking about I hope?)
Dtersaauw Sagua - /dˠeɹsɑʊˑw sɑgwə/
Aitessek Naus - /aɪtɛsɛk nɑːs/
Anerum-Oklaki - /æneɹʌm ɑklɑki/
Seigaikyyr Auspikitan - /seɪgaɪkiɨɹ ɑːspɪkɪtæn/
Aovensiiv - /ɑwvɛnsaɪʔɛv/
Maybe its just a naming error, I will check it
And, taken.
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it's taking me minutes just to load and save the map now it's so unwieldy
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Darvince is still editing, and I just forgot to rename it, so what?
I know both things. This taken == "Taken after Darvince"
Maybe its just a naming error, I will check it
it's taking me minutes just to load and save the map now it's so unwieldy
Of many layers
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this of revision 115
controversial details:
The big Aiýotan island got removed from the premises.
Tthe southern Bongatarian islands ice sheets got removed.
non-controversial details:
Plates added for Nausikkak and Issagga.
Himalian nations removed.
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Ok, going to edit. This one is goin' to be fast.
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Taken, I am going to remake Tutono's borders.
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NO, REMAKE OF ITS COASTLINE!
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That's what I meant. Oops.
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Finished revising Tutono peoples.
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WANNA TO DO A THING IN UNIVERSALIS
[18:58] <+matty406> "If your regime is not strong enough to handle a joke, then you don’t have a regime"
[18:58] <+Kalassak> well do it outside too bad
[18:58] <+Hellpotatoe> I will let you all claim land in Issagga
[18:58] <+Hellpotatoe> BUT NOT CLAIM IT ALL
[18:59] <+Hellpotatoe> You can claim a part and stuff
[18:59] <+Kalassak> why would we claim it
[18:59] <Tuto> Huello Hellpotatoe
[18:59] <+Hellpotatoe> Idk
[18:59] <+Hellpotatoe> to make things more diverse
[18:59] <+Hellpotatoe> All the nations are so.. 'land'locked
[18:59] <Tuto> But I am remaking Tutono Hellpotatoe
[18:59] <+Yqt1001> to make it so that fiah can't change it without fighting everyone here? :P
[18:59] <+Yqt1001> I like it
[19:00] <+Hellpotatoe> hue
~talktalktalk~
[19:15] <smjjames> Anyhow...... no thanks on the Issagga land, or Nausikkak.
[19:15] <+Hellpotatoe> hue
[19:16] <+Hellpotatoe> Nausikkak isn't avaliable
[19:16] <+Hellpotatoe> only Issagga
[19:16] <+Hellpotatoe> AND
[19:16] <+Hellpotatoe> I don't really wanna you people to take Lands to you
[19:16] <+Hellpotatoe> I just wanna you all to select some
[19:16] <+Hellpotatoe> So I can make something more merged with the world
[19:16] <+Darvince> "In the future, Alex would be better off simply accepting my teachings without resistance."
[19:17] <+Darvince> DAMMIT ALEX
[19:17] <+Hellpotatoe> Instead of making something like
[19:17] <+Hellpotatoe> "everyone by yourself!"
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no take out the top two islands and move the bottom two to just south of SKA's southernmost peninsula(bottom right
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I'm assuming nobody is doing anything with it atm, so, taken.
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no i will not take out the top two islands
those ones are fine
the bottom two are extremely ugly and undistorted, also so far south they would be little greenlands
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I agree to #115
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we could just keep the seperate layers in seperate pngs, so that everyone can use them however.
I am bringing this idea back. We should separate the physical layers (elevation, climate, plates, other things like that) into another image.
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ok it is now rev 117
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Added some tectonic plate boundaries. Can't decide for sure how I want to do the tectonic plate boindaries as I'm not sure how I want to place the mountains, plus all the islands likely have a volcanic origin.
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amd
Shit fiah, this is awesome! :D
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okay so that went to swonx and bong agreeing to it would've been like that anyways because darvince overrules all
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ethan? wtf?
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oh nvm XD
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idk dar said Himalia can be claimed now? I assume he is going to take these claims and then make countries using those borders and then the nations there will have association, but I have no idea.
Anerum-Oklaki and SKA claims
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Rev 119 map taken.
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fixed of himalia claims map
inb4 nue is mad because most of his claims got practically erased
key:
brown - mountain ranges
light brown - plateaus or other high, flattish areas
green - fertile areas
red - infertile areas
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Nausikaa Island is done!
Population: 29 562 500
Major cities: Wkegnwx, Kolok Senkec
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Added a bit more tectonic stuff and did some elevation for Kaeshar, which might be a bit of a WIP, not sure.
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nue wanted more reserves :(
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smj wanted more reserves :'(
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hi deformed cow
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smj wanted more reserves :'(
is good
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wth that is not enough space to grow food for those people
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Ok split it up into 2 different images, if anyone wants both of the images to have a certain layer let me know. (also if you just don't want two separate images)
Also:
- added a chain of islands between two tectonic plates that are probably colliding
- added directional arrows for Nausikkak and Himalian plates
- re-added the continent names layer
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eh whatever I don't need Himalian land anyway
If small areas are not large enough to support people, good luck making 49 nations or whatever you said you wanted.
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i mean the 30 million people of nausikaa island
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oh welp
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can i even into himalian claims
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haven't you been pushing for a coastline lock for months and now that you've finally declared it as locked you want to change the coast again and complain about how hard it is?
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mfw there are two maps now
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NO YOU NAMED IT ALL WRONG THAT IS REV 122
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5 years later: 120 different images, each upload takes up a page and have to copy changes to 120 different pictures
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what
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Only one mapp is more easy, but.. soon we will have no need for changes in a physical mapp, right?
So, we can split it in two when it is locked..
can i even into himalian claims
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everyone can into himalian claims
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ISSAMORIA IS OF BACK :D
Also, added Kwirdustan and Awkerstan, and Gizwana.
Not of many timings to make hd mapps, will do if havings free timings
Not of changings into physic mapp, but I named it '3' cause idk if I would left 2..
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Worked hard on this... Go complain all you want Fiah or Dar or Kal or whoever... :P
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no i merged the rivers map with the Ocean/Coast & Rivers layer
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ok then rename Ocean/Coast & Rivers layer
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why timezones
why not climate
why not elevation
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UBAM
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Has it ever occurred that the fact our map is worthy of a BAM?
I don't know what you're talking about.....
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Has it ever occurred that the fact our map is worthy of a BAM?
Ballistic Ass Mobile.
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brazilian auto messagers
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BlAnk Map
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Ok, as only fiah did something in Issagga, I will close the editions in this Sunday. Then I will try to fill it with nashuns. :)
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oshit
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I learned it as Big-Ass Map??
So can you maek a Big-Ass Map of Issagga?
Oh, right.
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Bump for convenient reasons
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why do you doublebump
Why not?
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because map!
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Taken; I am going to bump Tutono up a bit so it won't be a frozen wasteland. :P
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um rodvenio is editing i think
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expect it done by september (i kid i kid)
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well i expect it to be done by september and i'm not kidding
*september 2014
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I know.
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new map of loviniosa
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naru when should we lock the coastline
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I was actually planning to change and finalize Loviniosa before the original lock date was set, but I never had the time.
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Look for yourself. I am too tired/lazy to type.
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Taken. Should be finished by tomorrow evening PST.
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I will do my nashuns on Issagga someday until the end of september. I must have to got some time until then =p
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btw naru you are doing revision 128 because mudkipz's counted even though he didn't post a pdn
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Close enough.
- fixed a thing where Kallisto didn't fit into Kolokia
- changed tectonic plates in accordance to new loviniosa and kallisto (may need fixing since i have no idea how they work)
- new loviniosan nation
- changes to kolokian coast in loviniosan treaty
- (re?)made rivers layer, can be moved below national borders if needed
- ocean name between aeridani and lysteriok is "The North" (or just simply North in the map)- can be changed
- new ocean(s) between hitron and nausikkak, and a possible one between Loviniosa and Nausikkak
- string of islands near SKA
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hitron? byetron.
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hitron????
What?
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Why does Tutono no longer have a territory in Kolokia?
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because i took away your privileges
polan this is what you of get for calling life of "is game"
:(
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But life is game! Just ask /r/outside! (http://reddit.com/r/outside) Stoopid smelly yurt
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I find some of the changes unnecessary, but whatever. Taken.
EDIT: It would be more preferable if Tutono had a piece of territory in Kolokia. Personally it'd be more accepting if you had Tuto's consent. As well as the islands that were in said nation.
I'd say that you would ask swonx's permission to move Aiyota as well, but from as far as I can understand said nation is under your control, unless I am wrong.
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"-deleted islands that nobody owns and moved aiota up to me for hugging"
no those islands were volcanic islands to fill with nations because islands like japan exist
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huh what happened.
anyways if tutuno has territory in kolokia, there needs to be a convincing reason why it got there and how it stayed there
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the northern continent needs a lot of work. it looks artificially detached from loviniosia
i'm thinking of rotating kallisto from where it is to the spot east of himalia. thoughts?
http://imgur.com/a/MY5tC (http://imgur.com/a/MY5tC)
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inb4 i check the map and bongatar is gone
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Darvince I would prefer if I had my territory back in Kolokia.
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I'm moving kallisto so that it lays between Himalia and aeridani
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I find some of the changes unnecessary, but whatever. Taken.
EDIT: It would be more preferable if Tutono had a piece of territory in Kolokia. Personally it'd be more accepting if you had Tuto's consent. As well as the islands that were in said nation.
I'd say that you would ask swonx's permission to move Aiyota as well, but from as far as I can understand said nation is under your control, unless I am wrong.
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Aaand i will h8ve some freetime in this thursd8 AND in this frid8! :D
PURRPARE TO H8VE SOME NEW AND FRESH N8tIONS IN ISSAGGA! =D
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well you've replaced all the 'of' in your sentence with '8'
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map taken for rearranged kallisto
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Changed timezones, nations names, subdivisions.
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request a png map
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http://i.imgur.com/CghTwKE.png (http://i.imgur.com/CghTwKE.png)
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tutonian kolokia wth
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don't worry that'll be fixed. this is of plan.
http://i.imgur.com/y0t66KM.png (http://i.imgur.com/y0t66KM.png)
the progressively thinner green lines being the possible extents of the northern continent
reasons for the change
-kallisto wasn't attached to a landmass, like a peninsula is suppsoed to
-northern continent was really awkward, and still is
-holykol in way of sekr
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I'm in favor for Tuto (still) having a part.
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EDIT: if you (Tuto) can give two (three and I will seriously say yes) reasons that Tutono should have its chunk of kolokia, I'll give it to you.
Uh... Research and technological development? I feel silly saying that because this is a fake world.
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why the fuck are there two kallistos
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All right, I don't know what I was thinking (moving swonx up to aiota) so I'll move aiota downwards back to where is was origionally.
Also dat kallisto ಠ_ಠ kol I'm secretly amused
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why the fuck are there two kallistos
one is tutonian kolokia and one is kallistan kolokia
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but they're identical this is illegal
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no that was a joke there's not actually two, it's just that i haven't gotten around to removing the first one
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Hmmm, I've been thinking about something, however it might screw over tuto's chance at arctica claim
It's basically like an Alaska-Kamchatka (or whatever the hell that peninsula is called) connection, allowing another path of migration for humans between aeridani and bielosia. It'd however change the dynamics of how the North Pole works. So basically our arctica would be what if the arctic sea was actually land. Think about it. Nations like Argentina or France or Nigeria or whatever wouldn't claim the arctic, because it'd just be eaten up by Canada and Russia, and possibly the US/Scandinavia/Northern Europe.
Antarctica is different because 1: there's no habitable land anywhere in it 2: it's isolated, very isolated
So you might claim some of Antarctica for technological development, because there is nothing else to do there.
If we connect northern loviniosia to kolokia (like kip proposes) and add in my alaska thingy, that'd change the total dynamics of the northern continent and it wouldn't be like the Antarctica claims, because the habitable parts would probably be just eaten up by kallisto, aeridani and loviniosia. Perhaps we could lease some of the uninhabitable parts (Like the parts that are never above 1 degree faehrenheit and are glaciated or something) to other nations, though it'd be more like "you can use this territory however you desire, but it's still part of my nation"
And didn't Britain try to claim all of Antarctica ;) ?
So I guess Tutono won't have claimed land in Kolokia... Whatever. >.>
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huh.
kolokia is just the the artic continent+the peninsula kallisto is on. that doesn't include aeridani and loviniosia. loviniosia touches borders ethanthova more than it does kolokia and aeridani is in the middle of an ocean.
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huh.
so is aeridani and loviniosia suddenly connected to kolokia now?
because i'm pretty sure loviniosia is supposed to be an island, and so is aeridani. what i planned to add wouldn't have changed that
anyways why are we holding a 'vote' to decide if tuto should have land on kolokia. it's not like we have entrance exams to kolokia.
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EDIT: if you (Tuto) can give two (three and I will seriously say yes) reasons that Tutono should have its chunk of kolokia, I'll give it to you.
Sheez, this mapp dont work like this, or it work? From what I know, he need only of one reason: HE WANTS =p
I mean, I am not going to claim chunks of ice, 8ut I think that I would do it if I wanted to. Unless that it was already claimed or something.
Anyw8, going to work with Issagga. The map is 8eing edited?
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n8 it is n8t be8ng 8dit8d. y8u can e8it i8 :)
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1. wat the dick my two islands are goned!!!
2. can i put something in the southwest part or is someone doing something
3. or i could just have some of kolokia ;)
4. darvince every time the title updates it's like by fives so either
a. update it more often
b. don't update it
c. make an that updates it when someone says something but that won't work cause i'll spam it
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"an irc bot"
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If you don't agree then I will use random.org to give this land to a himalian nation)
>actual people want it
>if actual people don't agree darvince gets it automatically
>darvince is an actual person as well
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>you make no sense
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>nonono for the purposes of this I don't exist
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1. wat the dick my two islands are goned!!!
2. can i put something in the southwest part or is someone doing something
3. or i could just have some of kolokia ;)
4. darvince every time the title updates it's like by fives so either
a. update it more often
b. don't update it
c. make an that updates it when someone says something but that won't work cause i'll spam it
All right, since from my understanding, me and Darvince removed those islands because they were a big red and would not exist there. If you can create a sufficiently set of distorted islands (very, very wide) where the previous islands were, you can have them back.
If you mean all of your islands are gone, we'll compensate (either by giving you a serkr island chain or part of kolokia as you requested)
EDIT: if you (Tuto) can give two (three and I will seriously say yes) reasons that Tutono should have its chunk of kolokia, I'll give it to you.
Sheez, this mapp dont work like this, or it work? From what I know, he need only of one reason: HE WANTS =p
I mean, I am not going to claim chunks of ice, 8ut I think that I would do it if I wanted to. Unless that it was already claimed or something.
Anyw8, going to work with Issagga. The map is 8eing edited?
That area was claimed by me (with nobody being against it for like 5 billion revisions that they could have argued) and I was like "hey sure why not give some of it to swonx and tuto", then I took tuto's away and left swonx's (because "swonx was close in proximity to me but tuto was not" according to my logic).
However I'll give tuto's part back IF he AND swonx agree to my declaration (since it has been my territory I get full power over it. If you don't agree then I will use random.org to give this land to a himalian nation)
1: I have full jurisdiction over the percentage of the territory to give you and I am always in my right (until the border lock where we can't edit borders anymore) to change it. However I will not change it unless both of you agree to it. You do not have the right to change it.
2: I will be keeping 66% of my territory in Kolokia for myself (you two may discuss yourselves how to divide up the other 33%)
2: 16% of my territory will be what is known as "reserve" territory (as in if another nation somehow spawns in this damned hemisphere they have a right to it as long as they agree to this.
3: you will agree to sign the ESOP (East Serkr Organization Pact)
ESOP
The ESOP promotes:
Environmental care - Member states will be inspected for things such as:
- harmful industrial waste disposal
- pollution
- "etc"
And will be given a written report on how to improve and guidelines to meet the ESOP regulations.
Economic cooperation - trade tariffs and other useless things to economic cooperation will be lifted between member nations, however there will be no currency (like the Euro) that you can adopt. It's may change in the future (not in the close future so nothing to worry about here).
Other benefits:
- Military alliance: if there is a legit causus belli then we may follow into war. If there is an invasion of a member state then you will be defended.
- Sub-international criminal court: if you do not want to go to the international court in Holykol then you may choose to go to the court that represents the pact (pending location)
- Co-existence: this pact can coexist with the world government
- Leaving: you may choose to opt out of this pact at any time, however all economic, political, militaristic and territorial benefits of the pact will be terminated with it, which also means you are no longer our ally and we reserve the right to declare war on you (however unlikely it will ever be)
- Fun: due to our contract with Nukes4U inc., a complimentary Six Red Flags theme park will be built in the capital city of your nation. Including all the latest rides such as Nuclear Meltdown, Boom Carts, Nukenado, and one complimentary nuclear reactor safe with the latest NukeContainment(r) from Bongatar, the one and only nuclear wasteland.
- you will also receive free seats for your government in all Olympics or other international sporting events held in a member nation.
4: you may not (sadly) use kolokia as a testing ground for nuclear weapons but anything else flies.
5: you will agree to sign this proposal here and get your free part of kolokia:
Tutono: _Mario Antonio Ortiz__
Aiota: _________________
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What.
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I officially offur my n8tions and lands to Darvince, and to Darvince only. If he refurses to take them to do whatever he wants, I will remove them of the map fur good :3
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quick darvince give them to m-jk
Anyways hellpotato why are you leaving? :(
Was nice to know you though, you're nice.
kol
I don't really want to leave, 8ut I am of h8vings no timings to doings thingys nor talkings with furum peoples :c
I hope that I can come 8ack somed8 :3
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h8llp8t8t8e w8y y8u m8st t8lk w8th s8 m8ny 8's?
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h8llp8t8t8e w8y y8u m8st t8lk w8th s8 m8ny 8's?
*hellpot8oe why you must talk with so many 8's?
Cause I just love Vriska.
Okay then give your continent to me because darvince will not do anything with it also he already has himalia and i love you and
Ok, you are now officially the "second option" =p
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1. wat the dick my two islands are goned!!!
2. can i put something in the southwest part or is someone doing something
3. or i could just have some of kolokia ;)
4. darvince every time the title updates it's like by fives so either
a. update it more often
b. don't update it
c. make an that updates it when someone says something but that won't work cause i'll spam it
All right, since from my understanding, me and Darvince removed those islands because they were a big red and would not exist there. If you can create a sufficiently set of distorted islands (very, very wide) where the previous islands were, you can have them back.
If you mean all of your islands are gone, we'll compensate (either by giving you a serkr island chain or part of kolokia as you requested)
EDIT: if you (Tuto) can give two (three and I will seriously say yes) reasons that Tutono should have its chunk of kolokia, I'll give it to you.
Sheez, this mapp dont work like this, or it work? From what I know, he need only of one reason: HE WANTS =p
I mean, I am not going to claim chunks of ice, 8ut I think that I would do it if I wanted to. Unless that it was already claimed or something.
Anyw8, going to work with Issagga. The map is 8eing edited?
That area was claimed by me (with nobody being against it for like 5 billion revisions that they could have argued) and I was like "hey sure why not give some of it to swonx and tuto", then I took tuto's away and left swonx's (because "swonx was close in proximity to me but tuto was not" according to my logic).
However I'll give tuto's part back IF he AND swonx agree to my declaration (since it has been my territory I get full power over it. If you don't agree then I will use random.org to give this land to a himalian nation)
1: I have full jurisdiction over the percentage of the territory to give you and I am always in my right (until the border lock where we can't edit borders anymore) to change it. However I will not change it unless both of you agree to it. You do not have the right to change it.
2: I will be keeping 66% of my territory in Kolokia for myself (you two may discuss yourselves how to divide up the other 33%)
2: 16% of my territory will be what is known as "reserve" territory (as in if another nation somehow spawns in this damned hemisphere they have a right to it as long as they agree to this.
3: you will agree to sign the ESOP (East Serkr Organization Pact)
ESOP
The ESOP promotes:
Environmental care - Member states will be inspected for things such as:
- harmful industrial waste disposal
- pollution
- "etc"
And will be given a written report on how to improve and guidelines to meet the ESOP regulations.
Economic cooperation - trade tariffs and other useless things to economic cooperation will be lifted between member nations, however there will be no currency (like the Euro) that you can adopt. It's may change in the future (not in the close future so nothing to worry about here).
Other benefits:
- Military alliance: if there is a legit causus belli then we may follow into war. If there is an invasion of a member state then you will be defended.
- Sub-international criminal court: if you do not want to go to the international court in Holykol then you may choose to go to the court that represents the pact (pending location)
- Co-existence: this pact can coexist with the world government
- Leaving: you may choose to opt out of this pact at any time, however all economic, political, militaristic and territorial benefits of the pact will be terminated with it, which also means you are no longer our ally and we reserve the right to declare war on you (however unlikely it will ever be)
- Fun: due to our contract with Nukes4U inc., a complimentary Six Red Flags theme park will be built in the capital city of your nation. Including all the latest rides such as Nuclear Meltdown, Boom Carts, Nukenado, and one complimentary nuclear reactor safe with the latest NukeContainment(r) from Bongatar, the one and only nuclear wasteland.
- you will also receive free seats for your government in all Olympics or other international sporting events held in a member nation.
4: you may not (sadly) use kolokia as a testing ground for nuclear weapons but anything else flies.
5: you will agree to sign this proposal here and get your free part of kolokia:
Tutono: ________________
Aiota: Yatamayoki IX
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"darvincian sugg"
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maybe it's suggia
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TUTONO IS BAD AGH
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Taken.
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Taken.
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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wait what's the point of distorting the islands if we never even put it onto earth
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what's the point of making a map when everything is made up
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in my case you're preparing for something that's not going to happen in the next few weeks/months/years
in you're case we're already doing it
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KOLKON 2013
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Slightly moved Loviniosa's coast to the north and northeast, made bits of changes to Lyintaria and a coast overhaul of the eastern coast. 40 nations in Loviniosa excluding the Kolokian one.
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taken
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I am thinking about editing Tutono after bong is finished.
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why is tügagon a nation on there
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universalis is of bigger than earht
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ehathwahfthwhahthwhathwhathehaehthwhahetheahrethehathehahthehahehteahetaehrtaehthaethaherthaethaehtahethaehh
i mod part of boangatar to sout of SKA's secound peninuslya
check that it saved thanks
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Taken
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universalis is of bigger than earht
no earth is of 40075 km circumference, unviersalis is of 40960 km
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universalis is of bigger than earht
no earth is of 40075 km circumference, unviersalis is of 40960 km
yes i think that was the point he was trying to make
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universalis is of bigger than earht
no earth is of 40075 km circumference, unviersalis is of 40960 km
yes i think that was the point he was trying to make
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i knew that
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Here ya go
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can i take this?
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idk some crappy weather things and new borders
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Taken and Given
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Huehuehuehuehuehue
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this should be official
YES
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taken
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changed around issamoria and need bla/hp approval
blaist-hp border changed because of mountain ranges but bla shouldn't mind
if hp allows I'll finish the rest of the continent
Allowed =p
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Honestly, I don't like how almost every country is their own continent, so I have an idea: Merge Tutono with Ethanthova, Loviniosia with Kolokia, and Himalia with Nassikkak.
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Himalia is multiple countries.
Nausikkak is already composed of like 6 people. It does not need to be merged with anything.
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himalia is like 30 or more countries I have just been too lazy to put them on the map.
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taken
Grrrrrr
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taken after y'all
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Only I'm allowed to say y'all.
No I am allowed because I am stereotypically in Redneck Territory.
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Suggestion:
Small 'npc' areas or countries to emulate the NS issues that revolve around "A small nameless nation within your sphere of influence"?
Like that one slavic island I had off the coast of the TND and Ethanthova that they were both arguing over.
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My sphere of influence agrees
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My snail of influence agrees.
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My torus of influence contradicts.
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Huehue Hue you go
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the southern loviniosan mountain range
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draw a continent in 10 shapes or less
hopefully we can get all of usfn into under a hundred polygons
http://i.imgur.com/x57PWIZ.png (http://i.imgur.com/x57PWIZ.png)
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i think the map is too big now
someone needs to add amalthea climate
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Wei Tu Lon
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lee is english though
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Hopefully I can open the next revision.
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there should be a 24 hour max limit to the taken time after which you need to explain what you're doing that takes so long to "renew" your take
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what if you don't do it
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large update in Loviniosa
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ssasuckraanmg
find an anagram for that
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no one change the map for the next 3 hours
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hey if anyone wants to they can take out bongatar i'm readding it later
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taken
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It's been taken for 21 days naru, lol....
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Oh, right.
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there was another complication due to tuto reading the title instead of the filename to get the new rev number so next person to go is rev 153
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does no one think kaeshar looks wierd
those islands are all the same size it looks horrifying and unnatural (it doesn't look artificial either it just looks bad)
That goes for Ethanthova and Blaist Blaland, Solea and Darvincia too.
Ihpqalik's borders need to be updated as well, and my countries' names need to be fixed.
I also would like darvince to translate Himalia's climate and geography maps and political map onto the usf map.
we need amalthea climate too
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i nid every critiqi on bongatar pox
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You can propose edits to Blaist Blaland which I'll then consider, but don't change what is shown on Redbow's map:
(http://i.imgdiode.com/cJfv2E.png)
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*Rubs all of Western Himalia*
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i guess i'll fix the topic title because darvince doesn't want too
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there was another complication due to tuto reading the title instead of the filename to get the new rev number so next person to go is rev 153
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uhh what is this
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it is sagua_elev.png, a file from your computer
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Heightmap Sagua.
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Problatip: that mountain range will extend into Blaist Blaland and possibly into Red Rainbow.
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Interesting, maybe you might want to consider asking Bla whether he agrees with you creating a mountain range inside his countries?
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Interesting, maybe you might want to consider asking Bla whether he agrees with you creating a mountain range inside his countries?
Well, the mountain range will exist whether you want it to or not. Because PLATE TECTONICS MUAHAHAHAA.
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I'm fine with you making mountain ranges inside Blaist Blaland as long as I can see the result and approve of it (which I'll most likely do). I'm not fine with people acting arrogant and thinking that they have the right to decide where there should be mountains in Blaist Blaland. And plate tectonics is a bad excuse because how the continental plates should be are equally decisions made by us.
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I did them as well.
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protip: i'll do some island stuff today
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I didn't really want to dabble into everyone else's crap (i still did, but not very much) so there's a crapton of Serkr islands now, it really is the Pacific! Could have probably done some in the Issagga region
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I will of the rest of the islands
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mfw 168
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Taken for five years.
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png pls
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Taken
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Here you go.
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tkaen
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here U go
(http://universesandbox.com/forum/Themes/Universe/images/icons/clip.gif)usfmap172.pdn (http://google.com) (2572.27 KB - downloaded 0 times.)
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next revision is 178
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y btr werd
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I was told to post this here
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title
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Whats the revision number, 172 or 179? Anyways, taken.
Edit: I just noticed that the Korviedt plate has two arrows going in the opposite direction, which means there needs to be a rift zone. Also, there is an old plate border at Himalia?
Edit: Gave the northern part of Kaeshar some rivers. The various islands would have rivers, but they're too small to really mark on the map. Also gave the Korveidt plate a spreading zone because it has two arrows going in opposite directions and added some Kaeshari maritine territorial borders.
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jorster_ you can have the nations of western himalia (the thing with 3 nations on it that isn't overloaded with islands)
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Darvince drew Red Rainbow kol.
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i like how bongatar is two different colors
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did darv draw auspikitan borders? I don't think so, it was either me or you fiah
Also, I drew the two island nations just east of auspikitan, and I don't recall drawing what used to be the Free Island Collective thing, and naru drew a large change of islands that i deleted many islands from that became Oesa.
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red rainbow was originally on that huge map with some continents that was supposed to house the TUPS nations.
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You know, shmoopy is most likely never going to do the elevation for his area thing, so I'll go and do the elevation for that part of the continent when I get the next chance to do the map.
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I give permission for Fiah to change Aiýota however he wishes as long as it remains a sumatra sized island near Aeridani.
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i'd like to draw our attention to a possibility of saving maps in psd format
here is the plugin. mandatory if we switch to psd http://psdplugin.codeplex.com/ (http://psdplugin.codeplex.com/)
here is imagemagick. highly reccommended http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php (http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php)
so what does switching to psd let us do:
currently there are 15 layers on the map. this causes long loading times, slow editing, and may not run on old computers.
with psd format, we could load as many or as few images at a time, a much better alternative.
for those who choose not to use imagemagick, there will be no difference as long as they have the plugin
for those who use imagemagick, they can split the psd file into 16 pngs by typing this in the command line:
convert 183.psd %d.png
(yes, there are 16, an extra layer is generated but we can ignore that)
then, you may a single png at a time and when finished:
convert -alpha set *.png 184.psd
(will merge all png files into a psd).
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but what if i want to edit tectonics and coastline at the same time but not anything else? that can be done too:
convert 183.psd %d.png
convert -alpha set 0.png 1.png 14.png -adjoin tectonic-coastline.psd
edit the tectonic-coastline.psd now
convert tectonic-coastline.psd[2] 14.png
convert tectonic-coastline.psd[1] 1.png
convert -alpha set *.png -adjoin 184.psd
with psd files, you can use imagemagick to edit exactly the layers you want and nothing else. for those who want to keep doing what they are doing, paint.net will still work fine with the psd plugin and nothing else.
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i'll be setting up a poll shortly for psd format
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yes
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Done. I might have done the mountains wrong (too narrow), but I consider that to be the core of the mountains anyway and is a WIP I guess.
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the person who voted on 12/8/2013 14:30:16 for PSD please vote again and include username
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So what do people think of my editing of Blaland?
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woah new blaland is like ancient terrain cool
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woah new blaland is like ancient terrain cool
i was going to say exploded but this is what i meant to say
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names again
and internal borders
and some ihpqalik changes
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Added time zones for Blaist Blaland plus a bit of climate zones, and more internal regions.
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You probably should wait until they get the python based climate modelling thing finished. Nothing wrong with putting in your guesses though.
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oh Pygcm? That'll be done in 2015 at this rate
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no it will be done today
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i'd give you a hundred bucks if that was your final revision
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and then you're going to make another island called aeridani II that's touching aeridani
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you gots 3 days to finish
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Done
Changes to heightmap and rivers. I hope the neighboring nations approve. (The borders to the north seemed to imply that some mountains caused extremely squiggly borders)
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foiq my perfect saguan mountains are ruin
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Did you update the elevation that was already drawn in to the new color scale? I partially did it.
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Suggestion for Aiýota
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Taken, also Fiah, I'm noticing that the elevation map for Aeridani is kind of messed up as the green goes past the borders in lots of places and it seems rather pixelated. Though I guess if you ever wanted an excuse to redo the Aeridani elevation map, thats one.
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Finished now.
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Taken.
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Done.
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well
protip: loviniosan rivers, provincial borders not finished/designed
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rivers added, stretched a piece of land. possible final revision of loviniosan coastline
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I just realized...
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sagua is the duck's throat
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quick, someone draw a elephant or something in the east ocean
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taken (!!!), I will give before christmas MST is over.
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Still waiting.
Could we make a rule not to take the map if you're going to sleep or other stuff that has nothing to do with the map for several hours?
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it should be more like one day..
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I'd say 8 to 16 hours. No point in letting people take the map while they sleep.
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oh I thought I untakened
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Naru had it last and he untakened it.
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nvm, me reading too fast is what.
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You should see this, very interesting
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/08/fictional-koana-islands-maps/#slideid-413181 (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/08/fictional-koana-islands-maps/#slideid-413181)
So Dar were you going to upload the map? :b
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It's not even January fiah........
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what's the punishment
well if there's a punishment i don't think i'll ever lock bongatar
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you should not be punished for editing an area of locked coastline, if you are the one that locked it. you should be able to unlock it if other people that you touch agree with you unlocking it.
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Removed lock on Blaist Blaland's areas and borders. I never agreed to that.
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It's not even January fiah........
We agreed to lock portions of the USF map coast at a time. I locked the Aeridanish part of the coastline. If you lock something only to so abruptly unlock it or you violate the fact that you locked it then you will be punished. I'm assuming that you thought the entire coastline was locked; that is not the case.
Oh, must have missed that conversation.
@Fiah, is that to scale? I forget how the USFmap planet scales to Earth.
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It's here smj:
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,10936.0.html (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,10936.0.html)
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I have no plans on changing the Kaeshar coastline, so you can probably lock that one.
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Universalis is larger than Earth according to my sources, so no it isn't necessarily to scale.
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you should not be punished for editing an area of locked coastline, if you are the one that locked it. you should be able to unlock it if other people that you touch agree with you unlocking it.
That pretty much defeats the whole purpose of locking. If you're not sure, don't lock.
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you should not be punished for editing an area of locked coastline, if you are the one that locked it. you should be able to unlock it if other people that you touch agree with you unlocking it.
That pretty much defeats the whole purpose of locking. If you're not sure, don't lock.
why should i (or anyone, for that matter) lock any coastline then?
disadvantage: may not edit area again
advantage: ????
and i don't subscribe to the thing about not making history or climate before coastlines lock. i can do it anyways
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omg brilliant
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.1830.html (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.1830.html)
we can also only lock certain layers if someone only wants to lock their coastline for example
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why should i (or anyone, for that matter) lock any coastline then?
disadvantage: may not edit area again
advantage: ????
and i don't subscribe to the thing about not making history or climate before coastlines lock. i can do it anyways
You can but you'd have to edit it if you edited the coastline. Whether you subscribe to it or not that's still time-consuming and a disadvantage, especially if we have many layers on the map such as time zones, climate zones, heightmaps, etc. and someone chooses to change their coastline with all those maps completed for the area.
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also is Himalia still claimable?
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yes but don't edit the coastlines please
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i won't, i promise.
Is this fine?
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the name is not (sort of like how zimbabwe isn't called rhodesia anymore because britain left) but the shape is good
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Oh, okay. You can name then :)
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taken :3
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Made a start on new mountain rages in Ethanthova. Very rough for now, to further refine later.
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It think Bongatar fitted better in where it was before.
I'm also not a big fan of the extremely straight coastline south of where you proposed moving Bongatar to, it seems a bit unrealistic. Could we squigglify it?
If it were squigglified, Bongatar would probably also look more natural in that place.
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meh. i gues i'll flip it later so it doesn't have 20 earthquakes/day
well maybe it'll go down to 15 but better than 20
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it should remain that way because that's honestly the most realistic as it could get i agree being exactly a straight line is a little hard and we could fudge it a little however it's supposed to be at the edge of a tectonic plate. Look at the west coast of South America and tell me that it's not realistic. You may be right in small pieces of it but overall I think that's the best strip of coastline on universalis.
Also, bongatar destroyed an island that previously was in that spot so i would absolutely think we should move it back to where it was before.
About 30% of it is literally one straight line. That's not geologically realistic unless it were all landscaped and maintained by living beings. Is it in Kwnx Klnwm? South America doesn't have anything like that, overall it's mostly straight yes but nothing like that.
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Taken. Going to edit out most of the 1 pixel islands around Kaeshar and Ethanova (well, the region shared by the two). Going to leave some as island chains though.
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NOOO SMJ GOT REV 200
idk if you did hat on purpose or what kol
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Done.
Also fixed a couple spots that didn't get filled in for the continential shelf color.
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atomic can i put bongatar between auspukitan and solea peninsulas
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did timezoney things (you could say I really nuked them with Amalthean Unified Time)
none of my nations observe DST if it exists
BST+1 modified slightly for Wyverncliff and Ekqirium
Darvincia and 2 Amalthean nations left on BST+2
Amalthean Unified Time (AUT) [BST+3] including Apsea'ŋ and Kakai (optionally, Fivvikwx)
extended Western Serkr Ocean Time [BST+6] to contain all of Oesa
West Central Serkr Ocean Time [BST+7] modified slightly for Kateŋkwei
//East Central Serkr Ocean Time [BST+8]
Eastern Serkr Ocean Time [BST+9] modifed for Hinaika to be with Atapwa
//Far Eastern Serkr Ocean Time [BST+10] (Aegekwet)
(timezones have local names within countries or continents so these internationally can be different if they pass through another country)
edit: i plan on tweaking coastline and marking the FFoA on the map, among other things, probably later today
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There's a poll linked above for switching between psd and staying pdn, it's currently at a tie (3 and 3). read the post about the rationale before you vote please.
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also someone locked exactly one pixel of an island part of Norkute -- this is clearly unacceptable. unlock it
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Never mind I feel too lazy
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Taken.
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ok
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you are of optimistic
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maybe by next year
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taken
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Did ocean currents.
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MOTHER SUGGER SMJJAMES YOU DID REV 206
also those are terrible ocean currents
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What's terrible about them? They're also a bit more realistic and detailed than the old one.
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i accept the challenge
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some of the currents are slightly too curved for my taste. more straight lines and i've think we've got it
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For one thing, darvinces currents are mostly backwards.
Also, kipz, the surface currents have countercurrents at the equator, so they don't cross the equator like that, nice try at deep current representation though I guess.
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what the christ I didn't do ocean currents since rev 41
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what the christ I didn't do ocean currents since rev 41
Whoever did it last time did it all wrong then.
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For comparison
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Corrientes-oceanicas.gif)
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For one thing, darvinces currents are mostly backwards.
Also, kipz, the surface currents have countercurrents at the equator, so they don't cross the equator like that, nice try at deep current representation though I guess.
Yeah i first thought deep currents too when I saw kip's
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I just realized I did the northern hemisphere currents all wrong I was trying to mirror the hemispheres, and it was late so I wasn't really paying attention and ended up using the countercurrent by mistake. ill have to fix those when I get home in maybe an hour.
Should have remembered that east coast warm current and west coast cold current. I just mostly need to flip them.
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Uuh, I left anti-aliasing on when I did the currents layer last night and did so again when editing, *facepalm* Or is it okay? Not even sure if it matters anymore since Darvince got a new computer anyway.
Not sure what the currents would look like in the sea between Himalia and Nausikkak.
Edit: Don't use this one because antialiasing.
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Fixed antialiasing, sorry about that.
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no i'm actually not editing because i'm a lazy pos
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darvince is editing (why the thread is locked)
No he locked it because I had used antialiasing by accident and was going to take a week to fix it (overexaggeration I guess), but then he let me fix it since it was my mistake anyway and I was offering to fix it myself.
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Next step: improve the cyclone formation areas layer
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we need climate!!!!
although it does need to be updated
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Was a program going to do the climate or were we going to draw it?
Edit: I don't see the climate layer in the map anymore, what happened to it?
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everyone was waiting for pygcm but it's a pet project not a professional climate model and likely won't be realistic. we should just draw it
i also think there should be a tectonic plate layer and population density layer
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the climate model might not be accurate but provided good enough method of calculation/formulae it could be a good guide
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Yes, but I think when almost all of the map is locked we should split the map into different images.
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That looks mostly similar to what I had done, however while I know a few things about oceanography, I'm not trained in it.
Nice to get input from an expert. :D
Also, biome expression? Awesome, although one problem, the topographical map isn't complete.
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Climactic expression is the biomes.
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Climactic expression is the biomes.
It was meant to be a rhetorical question. Anyways, any chance on finding a geologist to help with the elevation map? We do have to finish it because several areas haven't been given elevations.
While I think the way we did them is pretty good, some professional input is always good.
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i heard jorster is a geologist
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I have to go to sleep but here's a start to some elevation stuffs
i'm not really what to do with the southern part (or how to blend the higher elevation in, midway down), and the western auspikitan stuff needs serious refining later...
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Also, Sodar looks suspiciously British
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will move bongatar once matty does elev
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updates to elevation and some rivers maybe
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can we have distored and undistored map vlox
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wtf those lines are ugly as shit
and did you draw those dots in yourself that must've been painful
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solid is canon (i think?) and striped is non-official but reccommended
third map is a 1px usfmap
second map is a normal 2px usfmap
What changed on the maps? How did you make the 1px border map?
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you know what'd be funny
if maybe aeridani or some colonial started a trading port on like aolejk or something and claimed all of solea or something and solea continued to function independently without them because they didnt have enough resources in amalthea and kept just making outrageous claims to power (possibly this is a private person and not directly government-endorsed) that they literally dont have and the soleani just kind of let them have their fun in their port
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sounds like something that aeridani would do except they'd claim that they didn't kill anyone because solea was clearly doing very well for itself
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And "what changed on the map" elaborate on which map and what aspect
Them all... What are the colors in the first one showing, and are the 2px/1px border maps any different other than border thickness from the original? (When I wrote the previous message I thought they were because I thought we used 2px borders in the first place, but now I remember we probably didn't)
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We originally used 3px, but when we shrunk the map it changed to 2px and now Fiah is pushing for 1px. Eventually we will have 0px, kol.
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nononononothanks
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Ok. The maps look cool. I think I actually would prefer that kind of 1px coastline over the one we have currently. But I fear that if people were editing 1px coastlines, they'd make them "discontinous" (connecting diagonal pixels only in some places) so they can't be filled with a fill paint tool. So it's probably best to use the 2px and then convert to 1px with whatever method you used.
Red Rainbow doesn't share origin with Blaist Blaland I think, it might make sense for it to share origins in ancient times, but Red Rainbow was formed in a Glorious Gay Communist Revolution against an oppressive fascist dictatorship. (Ideologically inspired to some extent by Blaist Blaland)
I haven't really decided much about the ancient history of Blaist Blaland, but I like the thought of a more primitive society uniting and expanding across the vast and originally thinly populated country in a peaceful way. Even though I've also written some history on Blaland that it was originally a totalitarian, militaristic and imperialistic socialist country before progressing into its current state. And I also had home history fragments saying it was a highly populated area with many somewhat tribal and primitive wars and oppressive capitalism/fascism making a group of people emigrate across the land to found the capital and a new state. My Blaland drawing also kind of had its own history when I drew it by being pretty much a city state often at war with neighboring cities, conquering and annexing them and actually only controlling a portion of farmland that was a fraction of the city size it grew to, kol. Building walls around new districts and stuff. But then again the drawing feels so geologically and in other ways nonsensical I want to make a new one. But it's probably never going to happen.
Kol. Tl;dr Blaist Blaland's history is a mess currently. Historians are working will some day possibly work on rediscovering it according to how I want it to be once they get tired of having massive communist parties in the public sleeping centers at night.
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d is auspikitan, i is saelunavvk (capitals of their respective countries)
i was thinking maybe c g h b or f, f would probably be good for trade with saelunavvk and thr population to the south and safe from the wrath of the serkr's steamy waters, a is too close to the native heartland and stuff probably
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i just expected it to be an enclave-like thing
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solid is canon (i think?) and striped is non-official but reccommended
third map is a 1px usfmap
second map is a normal 2px usfmap
Kaeshar not canon? Is sad.
slight exaggeration
can we have distored and undistored map vlox
it's not even possible to have an undistorted map. . .
Yes you can, just overlay the map onto a sphere.
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solid is canon (i think?) and striped is non-official but reccommended
third map is a 1px usfmap
second map is a normal 2px usfmap
Kaeshar not canon? Is sad.
slight exaggeration
can we have distored and undistored map vlox
it's not even possible to have an undistorted map. . .
Yes you can, just overlay the map onto a sphere.
1. I have no idea what Kaeshar's roots are so I left it out.
2. That's not a map in a map sense, it's more of a globe.
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Taken.
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bla is editing!! (!!!)
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the stars died so you could edit cusfm 214
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One step closer to coastline lock of my nations. I edited them pixel-wise and I hope they all look properly 2px wide now in all the curves. Suggestions are very welcome and pointing out flaws so I can correct them or change stuff before I lock.
Also edited rivers a bit, internal borders, to fit with the slightly changed coastline. The elevation map hasn't been changed so it's a bit off.
1 is before, 2 is after. 3 is both.
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oshit such squigly and flat
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Aaaaa starting to see faces on the map kol why does it always have to happen
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edit: given
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i'm renaming sodar to polania
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shit I thought I was taken
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wait is it happening already i need to rename sodar to polania
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Nausikkak, not Naussikak :P
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nnaussikkakk
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Nausikkak Sea -> Nausea
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mfw the ama is happening.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH TAKEN I AM NOT READY
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Given. Fiah would be proud. :P
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Looked through Blaist Blaland's coastline pixelwise. More ancient lakes added plus some other stuff. Did some elevation, trying to prettify the western mountains, but the ele map still needs the new coastline. Changed the rivers a bit and the internal borders, but I need to finish the coastline completely first.
Locked parts of Blaist Blaland that I'm satisfied with. Also cleaned Redbow's borders and locked it. Feedback is very welcome on the other parts.
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Thanks :)
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<plamtv>i swear to fucking god darvince every day bla adds 5 more lakes
<Darvince>kol
<Darvince>blaland will eventually be nothing but lakes
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!!!!!!!!!! blaland's rivers do not follow elevation
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guys don't skip over my elevation this time pls
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!!!!!!!!!! blaland's rivers do not follow elevation
water follows the path of least capitalism
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Taken motherboners
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!!!!!!!!!! blaland's rivers do not follow elevation
I know, they aren't finished.
Taken motherboners
Remember to upload map pls, it has been 9 hours now.
<plamtv>i swear to fucking god darvince every day bla adds 5 more lakes
<Darvince>kol
<Darvince>blaland will eventually be nothing but lakes
Lakes are epic !!!
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[08:04] smjjames [07:47] blotz "Awesome map, guys! The amount of detail is magnificent. I want to ask you about an aspect that is often overlooked... Can you tell me something about the plants and animals of your world?" oh god help me
[08:04] smjjames aside from the Saguans and the mystery of the humans (which I guess we could just handwave as long lost human colonists), the plants and animals are basically earthlike. We never went into detail of the worlds biology, but obviously it's an alien world.
[08:05] smjjames *HAS IDEA!* Hey Dar|eat! Maybe if the humans were origionally long lost colonists, the Saguans can be the native sapients of that world?
Just putting this thought out there.
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Well long ago I meant the inhabitants of Blaland to look something like this
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/556/722/500556722759_lrg.png)
however if we have to have the same species in our countries this probably won't work, but you could throw it out there. Maybe they could just be pets native to Blaist Blaland, the national animal of the country.
Some other fauna that could inhabit Blaist Blaland
Ghoulish Bla
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/280/552/500280552371_lrg.png)
Spheros
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/168/425/500168425974_lrg.png)
Gesky
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/081/929/500081929427_lrg.png)
A cousin species of the Gesky, the Metasaurus
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/036/950/500036950974_lrg.png)
Blaturnish Tarantula
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/013/433/500013433624_lrg.png)
Violet Crabfly
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/013/392/500013392547_lrg.png)
The creaker, current national animal of Blaist Blaland
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/331/739/500331739664_lrg.png)
Walking plant of Blaist Blaland
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/379/404/500379404410_lrg.png)
Just throwing it out as a suggestion, these could be our humanoids
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/066/136/500066136453_lrg.png)
Another possible species of Blaist Blaland, although we might want to limit our number of biped humanoids for realism
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/403/074/500403074802_lrg.png)
Octus Noxium
(http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/393/008/500393008112_lrg.png)
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lmao for some reason this is so amusing
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lmao for some reason this is so amusing
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taken
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Those humans have jelly rolls on their legs
Also TAKEN
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Given, you freaking boners.
Edited Tutono's coastline, rivers, borders, elevation map, and name. Also got rid of Vernam.
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taken, adding a quick thing
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added hitroni commonwealth label
we need to seriously stick with the file naming
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That looks like a population density map of Australia combined with Japan
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Before people start going too far with the population density layer, we need to consider how we want the layer to work? What does it even mean that a pixel is red? How many people live per square km or whatever?
I think we need to decide that, and that we need to pick a spectrum of colors with some defined ranges for the colors. The current layer doesn't really hold any other information than "I want a lot of people to live here". It doesn't inform you about the actual population density.
Did we ever decide the radius/size of our planet?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density)
If we intend there to be roughly the same number of people on this planet as Earth, I'd suggest these colors, the numbers to the right being people per square km:
Black (RGB 000,000,000): <1
Blue (000,000,255): 1-4
Cyan (000,255,255): 5-16
Green (000,192,000): 17-64
Yellow (255,255,000): 65-128
Orange (255,128,000): 129-256
Red (255,000,000): 257-512
Fuchsia (255,128,255): 513-2048
White (255,255,255): >2048
Also I think for a sort of similar reason that the coast part on the coastline layer is problematic. To me it would make more sense to extend the height map to the sea, so it includes a sea depth map, that could display shallow areas like the coastline color. The current coast color doesn't really say how shallow the water must be to be considered coast or not.
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do we have a cities or supranational organization layers on the map yet?
also i second bla
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the circumference is 40960 km, making the radius 6519km
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I suggested the spectrum because I think it seems the most logical way to utilize all the colors, either starting from black, then going through all the wavelengths, and at last going to white, or reversed. We could also reverse it or use another system, however I personally prefer unpopulated to be black. I can't really say much about what works best for unpopulated areas when you only include the color you say works best for unpopulated areas and not any other colors for comparison.
I have tried to make a very simplified map using the spectrum and based on it I'd prefer black to be unpopulated.
A quick alternative spectrum could also swap black and white and use something like these colors to blend in the ends.
Idk how we'd show water on the map, but my suggestion would be a shade of gray, light if unpopulated is white or dark if unpopulated is black.
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i think population should be more a scale of white (unpopulated) through yellow, orange, red, and then darkening to black (or a dark red), and water being a mid or light gray
but that's just personal preference i dont think a rainbow scale is very intuitive with the many hues (at least without blending, which we probably wont be doing)
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I think the problem with smooth blending is that you'll quickly lose sense of what the pixel value actually means and make it very hard to calculate whether the population maps end up making any sense when compared to the populations we claim our countries have.
I'd have no problem with a scale with fewer colors and ~equal number of intermediates to choose from, and I think white, yellow, orange, red, black could work very well, but I don't think we should make it a scale with more than about 10-20 values.
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Personally I don't like the idea of such a color scheme for the population density map. I think it should be in different shades of red or some other color. I see no problem distinguishing shades of one color (which was a point that was brought up by Fiah on the irc, and I saw no problem using one color for the elevation map as well), and I think it's better to use ONE color for the sake of simplicity. I don't like different colors being represented in the same sort of data.
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what about colorblind people we should use one tone
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30,000 looks too similar to 10-100 and 100-500
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fiah scale is good (idk about the numbers)
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not when you compare them side by side fiah, but when they're not touching it becomes more difficult to distinguish. really, i think it's strange because the colors are getting more intensely saturated from right to left and suddenly you have this soft shade of purple which looks really strange
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wunderground hurricane colors do that for cat 4/5 (very similar colors actually)
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then they have a bad color scheme
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well vh are you colorblind?
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the lighter pink does look more intense because although it is lighter, the hue is different
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I find the shift to pink to be a bit odd, if it had to shift to something I'd go with yellow or to a darker shade of red and then black.
I'd also change the white value to be <1 instead of <0.5. When looking at the color codes for intermediates they also seem a bit random. I propose either of the below versions based on it.
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Second one.
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There's a difference between 1 per km and <.1 per km and I want to incorporate that
You wrote 0.5 on your scale so I assumed the change wasn't much of a difference.
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well vh are you colorblind?
no.
the numbers above are pretty arbitrary. i suggest a log scale going from 10^-2 to 10^7 by powers of 10
10^-2 is probably achievable with large farm areas or mountains.
10^7 is achievable with a 100m skyline and 10m^3 per person
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well vh are you colorblind?
the numbers above are pretty arbitrary. i suggest a log scale going from 10^-2 to 10^7 by powers of 10
10^-2 is probably achievable with large farm areas or mountains.
10^7 is achievable with a 100m skyline and 10m^3 per person
They're somewhat arbitrary yes, I suggested using a rougly power of 2 scale (where it skips some numbers).
I don't think the power of 10 scale is very good. 10 million people per square meter? The 100m skyline example is really just an apartment block, 1 square km in size with 10 cubic meters for everyone, and all the apartments border each other, with no walls, no celings and floors, no ventilation, no streets, no corridors, no parks, no shops, offices, hospitals.... etc., and even then, if your apartment is 2m tall, having 2.24m long walls is hardly a realistic size for people to live in, just a bed would alone take up almost half the room. In reality, not even the densest city districts come anything near that. Manhattan for example has 27,221 people per km2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_city_districts_by_population_density (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_city_districts_by_population_density)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan)
I think the area that will actually come above around 20,000 people/km2 is so small that it's simply not interesting to have different colors for anything above definitely 105.
If we want to use a power of x system, I'd say power of 2-4 would be much more sensible, even if the numbers don't look very nice... But then again, if our planet was going to use a base 8 or 16 number system it would make plenty of sense from their point of view.
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why not up to 10^5
Here's an example graph of population density distribution
(https://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~small/Urban/images/USAPopDnsHst.jpg)
I think the regions around the middle are more interesting than those at the ends, and I think the base 10 system leaves too few divisions for the middle areas. Base 2-4 would work better.
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uh why is there a bar graph and 2 line graph
ohoh male and female?
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if 11 shades aren't too much, e^n for n from 1 to 11 works out nicely from 2.7 to about 60,000 which covers most of the area on that graph
base 3 from 1 to 10 also does it but e is so much nicer. plus maybe we use base e (http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/third-base/2)
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e^n works for me. I'm not very excited about infinite decimal numbers for charts like these but it does scale conveniently. If people want e^n I'm fine with it.
We'd probably need e-1 to e11 in that case.
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i just realized that population density histogram had people on the y-axis
oh how i wish it was area on the y-axis
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Proposing this scale. I know it extends into the green, but with this many divisions the colors become hard to distinguish if we stick to just yellow and red shades. Remember that the green shades will only be few, rare pixels inside cities and won't cover most areas, so I hope it's ok.
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wait did i miss the water?
and like, what thing is that in? km or???
yeah km i think
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Which image do you mean?
If you mean the scale, the numbers are people per km2, and there isn't a color for water on it, but I'd suggest black, or maybe just the regular water color on the map since there's no blue on the scale anyway.
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wait nvm i was thinking the wrong thing
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Snatched!
Done.
Also we should make some guidelines for the city layer before we start working on it imo.
Are people ok with the pop density scale I proposed?
Also I propose a supranatural union, Communist Universalis International (CommUnInt).
Current members:
Socialist Union of Blaist Blaland
The Glorious Armed Proletariat of The Land of the Red Rainbow
The Bloodbow Kollektive
Snake Skytopia
Come join, comrades?
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ahuerlille such beautiful name
Mudkipz make a poll over whether we should switch to 1pixel or not.
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ok but after i eat breakfast
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE&usp=drive_web#gid=2
vote is up, pick first, second, third. don't bother changing the greyed out boxes because the vote for them is over. if anyone needs their column protected or email changed tell me or pm or something.
w/o diagonals means that at the corner of two blocks there can be that infinitely thin connection. w/ diagonals means there has to be at least a one pixel thickness throughout.
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apparently we have nine planets, two stars, one of which is k1, an asteroid belt and an oort cloud :P
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who decided the two stars
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It should be a global vote you dumbasses
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hhhhhhhhhhhhh *looks so realistik*
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i misread the vote... we actually have one k1 star
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If we vote for 1 px, I think coastlines should be unlocked so that people can have a new chance to adapt their coastlines to the change.
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yeah probably
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i think we need a coastline only layer, without ocean depth and land color
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The way I see it is 2px is good for editing large scale, like entire continents. But nobody is doing that anymore. Everything seems to be in its final form atm. So in order to add even more detail we should transfer to 1 pixel in order to add more detail to our coastlines. You may say that it is difficult to edit large scale, but is anyone going to even edit large scale anymore? I don't think so.
I also agree with the coastline unlock and we should probably do that.
Agreed
i think we need a coastline only layer, without ocean depth and land color
Agreed
yeah probably
Agreed
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agreed.
but i don't get the part about editing with 2 pixels on a large scale. possibly the only reason you'd do that is because 1 pixel is too small to see when zoomed out. but that is easily fixed by a rough outline sketch that's 10 pixels wide on another layer with low opacity. in fact i do that when drawing with 2 pixels too
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Agreed
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I see a sickle northwest of New Lovinosia!!! Bla will approve this
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I think I misread the poll, so changed my vote
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dFJxQnphMGNKWUpFQ0xBUWg0YVFJLUE&usp=drive_web#gid=2
I think we should set the borders to 1 px width and without diagonals, meaning that pixels must connect horizontally or vertically along the coastline.
Allowing diagonals will make it harder to select the pixels (with magic wand tool) and harder to use the fill tool on the coastline.
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huh. i interpreted the poll the opposite way
i've renamed it to adjacent connections and diagonal connections now, if that clarifies everything. people might want to change their vote again.
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huh. i interpreted the poll the opposite way
i've renamed it to adjacent connections and diagonal connections now, if that clarifies everything. people might want to change their vote again.
Before the cells were called:
1 w/o diagonals
1 w/ diagonals
How does 1 without diagonals become diagonals, and 1 with diagonals become adjacent? I think you should swap the name of the cells. In any case I'm voting for adjacent. To make it clear without any doubt,
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[20:10] <plamowl> that means all of our voting for star systems is invalid
we gotta redo EVERYTHING
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no all of those were real voting systems kip just wants 0pixel diagonals
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no. let me explain.
i wanted to make a new poll, but i didn't want to bother with all the protected sections and shit, so i pulled up the old polling spreadsheet from like 2 years ago. below were examples of people voting first, second, and third. i remembered that for my old polls, if the first vote was tied, the second choices were added, and then the third, to break the tie.
fiah informed me today with the first past the post voting system that diagonal won. i questioned whether we were using that voting system, since i was under the impression we were not. it turns out, fiah made the star poll as a sheet in the same spreadsheet that my polls were in another page, and that the voting system i 'remembered' was just a instantaneous fantasy made up by my brain. thus the voting system is first past the post and if fiah counted correctly, diagonal does win.
does any of this confuse? yes? good.
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no it doesn't confuse me. does this mean we have 0 pixel diagonals or sqrt(2) pixel diagonals?
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i'm confused now which is "diagonal"
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shit we have 0pixel diagonals
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Attempt at 1px Yektonisa.
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looks unrealistic
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looks unrealistic
That's what I'm aiming for.
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what happens if i don't move bongatar
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thousands of nukes will immediately fire towards bongatar city
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omg ur giving me nukes! thanks man
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It actually looks legit.
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no bong you'e hoing to be blown to pieces
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Aiyota
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Ok.
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Changelog
Changed Aiyoti coast
New rivers
New internal borders
New elevation (WIP)
Added Azzervísi Isivalzi, D'vstagti and Koyoté
Removed Yo Ka Té from the premises.
*The elevation is just where the mountains are going, and if you want to, you may pretta-fy the mountains.
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Such tributary
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Fiah, hurry up. IT'S BEEN 10 DAYS
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what is cissolar is that kiss-sole-er
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Why is Cissolar the name? RELEASE THE KRANKENWAGEN.
also,
TAKEN
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Cissolar, means "On this side of the sun".
Or do you prefer Solar Empire/Commonwealth/Union/Conglomorate?
Cissolar is fine
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major ethnic groups
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PREEMPTIVE XENOPHOBIA: the ethinic han chinese strike out at the xriqxans, and win, over 800000 xriqxans die, but only 14000 ethinics die
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Unsure where to put this, but I've been working on 1px for subnational borders. Pain.
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Holy pony
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Ten nations left, probably done for the day.
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Mostly done.
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that looks like an eu3 province map
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Locked Blaist Blaland.
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what the lakes
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Kol what we have 1px diagonals and 1px connected on the same map?
Who converted Blaist Blaland's borders from 2px? :P
I just went along with what most borders inside the country looked like, only the far southwestern peninsula had something that seemed a bit inconsistent.
Actually Loviniosa, Kallisto, Himalia, Naussikak, Amalthea, Lysteriok, Hitron and Sodar use 1px connected.
Aeridani, Aiyota and Ih'sagga use 1px diagonally connected.
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Ok, I never checked up on the poll status and just thought we were doing connected. I strongly prefer connected but if people really want diagonal, and also convert to them, I can convert them for Blaland.
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Ok, Idk when I'll do it, so I've just unlocked Blaland's and Red Rainbow's coastline.
But if it's so much work to change all the coastlines, is it really worth it?
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It really is a lot of work, considering that many of the world is still untouched. It took me a few days to get Loviniosa converted.
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But Loviniosa isn't converted in the map I just uploaded?
I'd suggest running the poll again to see if people are still willing to use the diagonally connected borders, when we originally ran the poll I wasn't aware that the borders could be automatically converted to the fully connected style but not the diagonally connected style, at least.
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I'm too lazy to do it atm, if you want to, that'd be nice. I might do it another day if you don't want to.
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But Loviniosa isn't converted in the map I just uploaded?
I haven't put it in yet.
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Did some stuff with Ethanthova
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Finally got started on rivers. More like why.
4/27/14 updart
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Holykol. I finally finished after a month later.
(http://i.imgur.com/L0LYWHB.png)
without internal subdivisions: http://i.imgur.com/1Ptep4F.png
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It looks so detailed and realistic, nice work.
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Wow. Just wow.
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Hmmm... Looks like the outcome of Laika's reactor.
And maybe Xriqxa's Reactor.
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welcome loviniosa to the 1px family
concept art
(http://i.gyazo.com/e643746804e4855c82ff04e9f68435f6.png)
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i still need to fix my islands and finish elevation
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i still need to do elevation and everything
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islands mostly fixed i still need to fix some things on the continent...
elevation mostly done, still needs some tweaks and critique is appreciated though action will probably take a while
didn't really do anythign with time zones but i filled in some of them that weren't for some reason
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i wörked about an hour on it today
got the nausikkak sea lesser islands converted to 1px
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<Kalassak> OH WE'RE DOING NO DIAGONALS
<Kalassak> til
<Kalassak> i could have done my islands properly
<Kalassak> -.-
converted my coastline and amalthean borders -darvincia and -serkr islands
(Wyverncliff has been updated for TMC)
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kol it seemed like we were doing diagonals because bla maybe? but idk aeridani and aiýota converted to no diagonals
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kol it seemed like we were doing diagonals because bla maybe?
The answer lies on the page before.
Kol what we have 1px diagonals and 1px connected on the same map?
Who converted Blaist Blaland's borders from 2px? :P
I just went along with what most borders inside the country looked like, only the far southwestern peninsula had something that seemed a bit inconsistent.
Actually Loviniosa, Kallisto, Himalia, Naussikak, Amalthea, Lysteriok, Hitron and Sodar use 1px connected.
Aeridani, Aiyota and Ih'sagga use 1px diagonally connected.
I converted blaland's borders, and I expected everyone would convert them from connected to diagonal because that takes a long time. I guess it's okay if we leave it inconsistent, but it makes the map inconsistent.
So much for that.
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So, am I supposed to convert Kaeshar and the Kaeshar Archipelago to 1 pixel borders?
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Well sure, if anybody has a method to do it quickly, I don't mind.
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A whole doc? Well put me in as no
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Say bye to Tutono because we have Tjedigar! (It's Tutono but with a different name)
I can't do IPA but it's pronounced like D-yedge-igar.
Also edited elevation map, borders, and rivers.
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fiah you need to do your serkr islands
and dar needs to do his elevation and fix his border/coastline!
in other news: i fixed elevation, fixed my islander coastlines, and we have a new island nation to the east of Saelunavvk, Enapi! it came from an island i placed there last time i edited
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No no no no, did you not download the revisions I posted?! This map is outdated!
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Remember when we almost had 0 stars
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Grtgrt
https://www.dropbox.com/s/glgdhol21to6d3l/usfmap245.xcf
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even if the plates are moved, tsunamis will still happen no doubt, probably earthquakes to a lesser extent.
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i don't know how weather works
this is a preliminary (it'll probably always be preliminary, but whatever) overview of tropical cyclone development regions around Universalis. I feel like a basin or two really needs to be cyclone-less but i can't decide which ones that would be. Then again, since we don't have a whole ton of water, maybe the "stress"/potential energy ends up requiring all basins to form hurricanes? idk how this works really
really nothing new that most people care about but it's a layer so here's the new file
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0wm9j9ne3p8ss0/usfmap248.xcf
screen to show estimated development regions with ocean current overlay
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250? just 6 more until a nice round number
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kol 100000000
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Takendo
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usfmap 251a when i accidentally downloaded the wrong revision
fiah pls merge
https://copy.com/s4EhdYulQNwCrMtT
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ah yes, good, i can move loviniosa even souther! taken after fiah
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/rpuq0pnn8sx5ruu/usfmap254.xcf
changes:
-altered loviniosa's coastline very subtly
-moved loviniosa slightly south and east
-moved lysteriok despite the 'do-not-touch' sign to correspond with loviniosa, unfortunately interferes with aahrus and kaeshar
-adjust tectonic plates to land
-new country names in loviniosa placed
EDIT: i uploaded another because I noticed some mistakes
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you sodar
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-moved lysteriok despite the 'do-not-touch' sign to correspond with loviniosa, unfortunately interferes with aahrus and kaeshar
Oh deer more troubles
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https://copy.com/WfKkVOMhsdpnPHKS
revision 256. Now i must move my attentions to Kaeshar.
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tf is this file my gimp can't open it
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unless you have a really old version it should be possible. when you say your gimp can't open it, do you mean windows does not automatically recognize .xcfgz as a GIMP file or that GIMP is incapable of reading the file?
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Naru you just need to select GIMP as the program to open the file. It should work afterwards.
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Changed a plate boundary to adhere to my existing mountains.
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táken
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you have permission to yell at me every time you are editing the map to put himalia and sagua into proper 1px
Did:
- Fixed Blaland, Darvincia, and Auspikitan's coastlines (gg fiah)
- Changed Sagua and Himalia back to 2px for proper editing
- Converted parts of Himalia to 1px and made the Akolenal Sea smaller
Didn't:
- Himalian elevation
- Darvincian elevation
- Fix Darvincia's border or Sagua's borders
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takeda corporation
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kony 2012
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https://copy.com/RHq6nmesateIV8zY
added some more land to Lysteriok and blobbed out some possible areas where Lysteriok and Tjedigar could go.
Red=Lysteriok
Blue=Tjedigar
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Well Tutono is officially northwestern lysteriok
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g7qafogggy20ugc/usfmap263.xcfgz?dl=0
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http://www.derpface.com/usir102039/derpdrawings/matty406
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkljins6z1ckfr6/usfmap267.xcfgz?dl=0
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I do the
takens givens
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taken for elevation and river small edits and nation removal
of gibing
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Hellpotato, please change your river to be one pixel thick, such as those in southern Issagga, Loviniosa or Aeridani for reference.
I thought I did it! I made it to be thicker in my personal mapps, but it seems I forgot to leave it 1px on the original mapp - sorry for the mistake
Also, you erased the name of a nation in the lower right corner of Issagga that I would prefer to keep under Aeridanish control. Do you agree?
Are you talking about Mü?
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kolnop, Nya or something.
Nja
Well... I don't think that I want this land in special so.. You can keep it :)
TAKEN 4 EDITZ
Given for checking
Also, is Plaqwx (the little island above Barcein) mine?
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*touches it*
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Before people start going too far with the population density layer, we need to consider how we want the layer to work? What does it even mean that a pixel is red? How many people live per square km or whatever?
I think we need to decide that, and that we need to pick a spectrum of colors with some defined ranges for the colors. The current layer doesn't really hold any other information than "I want a lot of people to live here". It doesn't inform you about the actual population density.
Did we ever decide the radius/size of our planet?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density)
If we intend there to be roughly the same number of people on this planet as Earth, I'd suggest these colors, the numbers to the right being people per square km:
Black (RGB 000,000,000): <1
Blue (000,000,255): 1-4
Cyan (000,255,255): 5-16
Green (000,192,000): 17-64
Yellow (255,255,000): 65-128
Orange (255,128,000): 129-256
Red (255,000,000): 257-512
Fuchsia (255,128,255): 513-2048
White (255,255,255): >2048
Also I think for a sort of similar reason that the coast part on the coastline layer is problematic. To me it would make more sense to extend the height map to the sea, so it includes a sea depth map, that could display shallow areas like the coastline color. The current coast color doesn't really say how shallow the water must be to be considered coast or not.
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Can ze me joinz?
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Wait 3.5 hours till I get home /_\
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Inb4 he edits an existing nation
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inb4 all of lovini is taken by "The Great Shriqua Empire"
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*Clesodora
IDK what file to download to makeamap
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Just saying that the number is wrong ?, so the next person who edits the mapp should name it usfmap276.xcfgz or whatever
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TAKEEN
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added some references for my coastline (Can be hidden by hiding the 'matty draft layer no touchy' layer)
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i like how bad the OP is still
i might himalian elevation tonight since i'll be in a mathematical mood
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takeen
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i did a tiny bit of elevation
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taken
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Started elevating
I also made a new elevation key that is a bit easier to sample colours from and has examples of real world peaks to put things into perspective.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangean_megamonsoon
It would be fun.
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what if universalis was a philosopher at age 4
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mfw given
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xcfqz ok
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the modern ethinic han coastline layer
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takeda corporation
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i made this to prove to fiah that blaland around 30S won't be desert
(http://i.imgur.com/Y0W9kzF.png)
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How did you make it?
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I took the layers from CUSFM, coastline and the latitude/longitude grid, then placed lows and highs in appropriate locations. In summer, away from the jet stream (blue) and ITCZ (red), the highs generally go over water and the lows generally go over land. Wind will flow from the highs towards the lows, and if it travels over tall mountains or lakes, it will pick up moisture. I add lows across the jet stream and across the ITCZ, the ones on the ITCZ are messy waves and the ones along the jet stream are neatly defined pressure systems, generally in this shape:
(http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/guides/mtr/af/frnts/gifs/ofdef2.gif)
with rain all along all three fronts usually.
The massive area of rain over Sagua and further east of that is due to the ITCZ, which on Earth, is where thunderstorms form nearly every day, causing rain to fall across its entire length. It moves from winter to summer, going south in the winter and north in the summer, from the Northern Hemisphere's perspective, the same with both jet streams, in both the northern and southern hemispheres.
Image wise, it has three layers with the background, the pressure systems, and the precipitation, and the precipitation layer is slightly translucent.
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How about Issagga?
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i might do that tonight, maybe make weather for the whole world :D
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til darvince is a meteorologist
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cutting the kaeshar pie
Stop that! >:(
Although, isn't that area actually one of shmoopys things? Pretoria or something.
Edit: Yep, that's Shmupland and Peoria, so you're carving up the Shmupland/Peoria pie, and a little bit of the far eastern coast for Kaeshar, but Kaeshar would still be on the other side of the mountains.
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Not dead dead, but yes she hasn't been around.
Also, I looked WAAAY back at http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,7618.msg109899.html#msg109899 and the Kaeshar border does go south along that eastern coast a bit, about a third into your claim area, but meh, that was before we did elevation and it makes more sense to go along geography.
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shmoopy is boy i tink
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Yes. Shmoopy is a cis male.
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I thought shmoopy was aka hamster, who is darvinces sister?
Anyways, the mountain border is fine.
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shmoopy was/is atomic's friend
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shmoopy had a diff nation in mw2 amairight
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Oh, no idea how I confused the two.
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Did some things and stuff
also amalthean tribes wip
labels are the major groups (with similar colors)
(http://i.imgur.com/XD2zcyf.png)
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yay eksa is back
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sani pani hani gani lani!!!
reiisket is the ultimate combobreakster
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because they are more auspik
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is auspik influenced by himalian languages more
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Blanet plamposal (note for anti-salis people, none of the names are official except Universalis):
Solar mass: 0.907 masses
Universalis:
0.83AU, albedo 30, greenhouse 23K, mass 1.02 earths
Resulting temperature 17C
Burniversalis:
1.34AU, albedo 32, greenhouse 127K, mass 8.23 earths
Resulting temperature 63C
Lava planet 1:
0.122AU, albedo 11, greenhouse 0K, mass 6.9 earths
Resulting temperature 466C
Lava planet 2:
0.201AU, albedo 37, greenhouse 930K, mass 1.7 earths
Resulting temperature 1185C (nickel rain!)
Moltinia:
0.28AU, albedo 8, greenhouse 0K, mass 5.3 earths
Resulting temperature 219C
Vulcan:
0.48AU, albedo 54, greenhouse 21K, mass 3.2 earths
Resulting temperature 61C
Juptur5plant:
3.27AU, internal heat 43000K, mass 498 earths
Resulting temperature -104C
Septuhn6plant:
5.13AU, internal heat 21000K, mass 209 earths
Resulting temperature -133C
Manydistant:
21.5AU, internal heat 10000K, mass 11.5 earths
Resulting temperature -219C
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Octane:
11.72 AU, mass 340 earths
bluish, very methane
Decimation:
~40 AU, 150 earths
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i güessed on the gas giants adding a couple tens of C based on how big it was compared to what it would be without that
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that astro calculator thingy
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Earth's obese, disgusting sister clouded in her own fart. It's a monster to behold.
I am Earth.
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bamp
no 2nd pages allow
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tutorivers n ship
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i8tg6menzxvwnqx/usfmap284.xcfgz?dl=0
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merge later
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#official
(http://i.imgur.com/a4lZi2L.jpg)
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#official
*LARG IMAHDJ GOEZ HEAR**
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"saunaversalis"
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yes you pony
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no
i figured but you and dar posted some stuff here >:(
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what the heck
(http://i.snag.gy/RyZQd.jpg)
(http://i.snag.gy/Cc1aU.jpg)
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protip SHEM is really cold for some reason it shouldn't be
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i have discovered the reason: clima-sim is retarded and acts as if the polar ice sheet is in both hemispheres instead of just the north
so the northern hemisphere should be good, but the southern hemisphere will be accurate if i remake it but without kolokia
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it acts a lot better sans kolokia (ignore kallisto and kolokia climate though) keep in mind only use this one as guidance for areas south of the equator (SHEM)
january
(http://i.snag.gy/J8k9E.jpg)
august (july isn't the coldest month in SHEM)
(http://i.snag.gy/Hg1aj.jpg)
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SHEM temperature gif
(http://s30.postimg.org/3oqv5qckx/output_P57793.gif)
NHEM temperature gif
(http://s24.postimg.org/acgw4q7px/output_30n_Jbz.gif)
NOTE: °C versions coming soon
Markers for °C people:
-20C = -4F
-10C = 14F
0C = 32F
10C = 50F
20C = 68F
30C = 86F
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cool stuff dar :D
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lol
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Oh haro radiocativty poisoning! No time longa see, yesrs!
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Just a question: We have an area called Amalthea, is it intentional that it should have the same name as one of Jupiter's moons and a deity from Greek mythology?
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There also may or may not be a region called Sinope? I know there is/was on NS, and it might be on universalis with shiberia and holykol and stuff.
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There also may or may not be a region called Sinope?
yesss sinope
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mpw second page
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taken
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"The uesti (Urestu planitiei) are close to terrestrial humans in appearance. Transported to Almea, we would notice differences such as a good deal less bodily hair, a different musculature with more surface fat, wider hips, flatter noses and ears, very large eyes, and less prominently colored lips with no top indentation." humans should be a bit different
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large breasts which bounce on their own and make sound effects
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@kal this isn't that Anime volleyball
penile stimulation relaxation game
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no fiah that's just how the zompist guy made his humans different, we could make them neanderthally or anything else we want (although since i'm assuming they're descended from an equivalent of Mammalia, I'm going to assume they may not have to be different at all
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accurate simulation of saunvare (view it with the left at the bottom)
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lmao
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which uses a hectagons
(http://i.imgur.com/zBJBvP9.png)
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what the boner is the hexagon pattern following? image complexity? but no, because himalia is almost black
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no himalia is literally worse than africa
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hmm light pollution might be a thing
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welcome the Matriarchy of Tepodi to the Universalis family
also i 1px'd the borders of darwincia for dar
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i have elevation!
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kallisto is perfectly flat you see
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all the ice eroded the land away
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what if the coast of kallisto is high mountains the center is a great plain depressed below sea level by glaciers
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gut
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Taken
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Converted my nations' coastlines and borders to the official borderpixel standard
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Taken
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now what suspicious activities are going on
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Given
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skary file size kol
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that's a very skary inkrease
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that's a very skary dekrease
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that's a very skary dekrease
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what edits are you guys even making!!!!!
i edited timezone color and some mismatchy elevation things that were bugging me
and i'm thinking of redoing my elevation
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the filesize just decreased again
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the wonders of file compression
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if we doubled the number of pixels in this map every 18 months our dimensions would be 3547 x 7094 by now
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next revision is 310, k luvs?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RS91rSoVQVPUr7cZj0crp-KWSZl0gC2r5FZekg1K71E/edit#gid=0
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>luvs
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what the christ
no the next one is rev 300 then after that it's rev 311
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RS91rSoVQVPUr7cZj0crp-KWSZl0gC2r5FZekg1K71E/edit#gid=0
Lmao the drama stories
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added thigs and yeah
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next revision is 311, k luvs?
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the nations of himalia begin to arise from their icy graves
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Added Tjedian Kolokia, Timbalta and Elvine. also changed the name of teralm to Teralmian Federation.
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i think we need a small sliver of auspik kolokia
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>microsoft word font
what.
I downloaded the font from the internet.
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i think we need a small sliver of auspik kolokia
kol yes
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i think we need a small sliver of auspik kolokia
How about a chunk owned by Communint?
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How about a chunk owned by Communint?
sure that works
you guys are in the southern hemisphere though!
and norway (and france and the UK) has a territory on antarctica... your point?
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but with a warmed world darvincia, lysteriok, himalia, and kallisto would disappear
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crappy jet stream stuffs red is summer blue is winter
first image is average from equator
second image is closest to equator
third image is furthest from equator
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i think we need a small sliver of auspik kolokia
Hope they have the right clothes
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no they're all nude like they are in native auspikitan
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Oh ok they should definitely survive the freezing weather then.
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crappy jet stream stuffs red is summer blue is winter
first image is average from equator
second image is closest to equator
third image is furthest from equator
i don't see no image
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bhbhbhbhbh what i'll fix it at home hopefully
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http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Lojban blaists should speak this
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Kol. Blaxian works from most of those principles, but it has its own vocabulary.
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so is blaxian a cipher of lojban
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shipyards
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Oops
(http://i.gyazo.com/553f549ddc08102596ad5b04f118416d.png)
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you tried
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that looks like landyards
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it looks like dried up play-doh
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taken
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it looks like dried up play-doh
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taken
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what
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giben
CHANGELOG:
>Made the 5 internal divisions for the Pentadominion's "subnations";
>Edited the internal divisions of Barsein and Antarion;
>Made the internal divisions for Faenmark, Isamore, and 2 of Pentadominion's nations (Qaaqoci and Kjanqati);
TO-DO:
>Pentadominion's internal divisions;
>Himalian Elevation;
>Tuto's changes;
>???;
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kol himalian elevation
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taken if not already
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kolkhoz
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Taken
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guess what Darvince needs to do
he needs to play himalian elevation
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Fractalized Blaist Blaland's elevation a bit and remade rivers in 1 pixel width.
Added internal borders and made Snake Skytopia become one with Blaist Blaland.
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if dar does himalian elewation i will soleani re-elewate
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added internal borders for tutono
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A minor change to internal divisions.
Added region map to wiki.
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stolen
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!!!
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returned
with appendages
soleani internal borders
now i will make a cute map like bla did
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but wouldn't 11.7 divisions be sufficient for 11.7 people
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12.6 thank you very much
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if dar does himalian elewation i will soleani re-elewate
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taken
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320 no pope
just updated borders and added tutonian ethnic groups
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A cheaty map that looks kind of satellite style
(http://i.imgur.com/Og7WQMd.png)
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you forgot that all of blaland is desert lololololololololol jk
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it did miss all the deserts though rip
i guess that's why it's "cheaty"
otherwise cute
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Hai
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lel scrub
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no
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no
???
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pmub for later editing
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dese posts are raw posts
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if dar does himalian elewation i will soleani re-elewate
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(http://i.snag.gy/ey6iy.jpg)
proposal for southed blaland, does bla okay with this?
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I'd like to see a climate simulation before judging
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i dunno there can't be one, there's no elevation because much of it would need to be redone - by you probably
also those latitudes are much wetter as a rule - not as some fluke of thermodynamics
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The old elevation can be used in the simulation, just moved to the new position, as it would most likely be similar.
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yes but issagga needs adjustments
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I can't really settle on where the country should be if I don't know what the climate would be like. I don't want to redo everything, then someone finds I can't have forests or some other biomes in the most important areas, and then have to redo it all over again.
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Those latitudes are predisposed to having many forests, due to their low evaporation rates and the polar front being present between about 40 to 60 degrees north and south, which covers the majority of Blaland. The only area you might have any qualms about would be the far south, which is likely to have twisted forests further from the shore and tundra on the shore.
Anyway, that might be a bit too far south, although the further north it goes the drier the north gets.
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. . . I thought you didn't trust climate simulations ???.
I already explained my view on them. I don't trust them to ever become perfect and I think you can always refine them to become more reliable. Are you up to another argument now? As a compromise I offered to consider moving it. Be happy?? It's a big amount of work I'm offering to consider redoing here. I'm growing increasingly tired of this community if this has to be an argument clinic every day.
I suggest doing an estimate where the country is a bit further north. It's ok if the north fringes have a bit desert, especially if it means less tundra in the south. If the western mountains are responsible for drying the center a lot, those can also be reconsidered.
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plus grasslands can basically be in any climate you want (except desert or tundra) because farming gets rid of forests and then herders/farmers may continue to work to keep the region a grassland instead of a forest
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Yeah and neither can I trust my geology. I can always refine it no matter what, but I have to stop somewhere when it becomes realistic enough for me. I don't expect we can make anything perfect, but I don't think that's a justifiable reason to just do whatever and throw away all geological realism.
As said I already explained my view on it and I just don't agree with the way you put it. If you're interested in a discussion about this, go here:
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,15052.msg151634.html#msg151634
I'm not going to discuss it again and I don't even see why one would bother with that now, when I'm offering to consider moving the country.
Do you mean you want a situation where we can give you a map of what we think the climates should be based off of meteorology, and that you can then edit it to a reasonable degree because god knows what it would exactly be anyways? If so, that's fine.
I suppose some iterations would work, where you do some simulations, I adjust position and some details, and simulations are repeated until the result is ok. Or just position it according to pic below and consider adjustments from there.
We were really unsupportive of you trying to make northern Blaland forest (pre-move) because that pushed what we thought it would be via meteorology (very arid, basically desert or scrub-land) way too far. By comparison, changing a few hundred kilometres worth of taiga to deciduous forest is a much smaller jump and honestly I doubt anyone would care. I understand you don't want another argument, so I'm just going to explain the rationale behind our side and leave it there.
Judging from this
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,6014.msg149524.html#msg149524
It looks like it's the central part that's more arid, and that's also the most important part to keep supportive of forests and good agriculture. Basically the orange part. I don't know if that's still what your climate models say. I also am ok with having some taiga in the south but I'd rather not have a lot of tundra.
I'm not sure what you mean by a bit further north. I think it'd be easier to just specify what climate you want the important regions to have.
This is roughly my preferred distribution and the most important areas are marked in red.
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climate sims are fun, they don't require actual hours of working to mesh gradients properly and estimate and interpolate back and forth, especially if you want a quantitative result like rainfall or geopotential height or something rather than a qualitative "temperate forest", since the computer just does math for you
so after i set up my image grabber on my website (so i don't have to keep windows open 24/7) i'll look into running climate sims on linux
aquilegia
where'd you get that name from
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off topic but I don't get why you and aquilegia are so obsessed with climate sims when we have guides made by people that are plenty realistic enough to follow, for example:
http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=27118
Me or are you talking to others in that post?
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sorta aimed at you but now that I think about it, it'd have been better to make it a general question
I'm not obsessed with climate sims.
The only reason I've mentioned them at all is because people weren't satisfied with my climate and I assumed that was based on simulations, but it's the results I care about (concerning my nation) and not the method (of course if the method is flawed that's pretty bad but not something I'll be troubleshooting and fixing).
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rough guide to blaland at 40 to 70 degrees south, elevation is taken into account
note that grasslands can be created by human cultivaiton and farming, especially the "mixed forest and grasslands" vegetation type
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Thanks, what if it's around 5 deg further north?
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i forgot about the mountains in redbow in the last one, this one has them (this is also 35 to 65 degrees south)
and blaland before the move por compro
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Thanks, I think the 35-65 deg location could work. Although I'm worried about the climate around the point connecting the inner water areas to the sea, which looks like it would be frozen for much of the year?
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Do you mean you want a situation where we can give you a map of what we think the climates should be based off of meteorology, and that you can then edit it to a reasonable degree because god knows what it would exactly be anyways? If so, that's fine.
pretty much the only reason that area is tundra is because the winds in the arctic tend to blow towards the south (so in blaland's case towards the north), which would create a climate where it can get above freezing any time of year. sea ice in the southern hemisphere on universalis might not be very prevalent, reaching its maximum some time around september and entirely disappearing or remaining in a small pocket between blaland's southern peninsula and issagga's tail by december, coming back by april
EDIT: i used northern hemisphere months for the southern hemisphere gg me
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Temporary layer with Blaland's possible new location 15 deg further south. My idea is that I make some small countries around the borders that border the sea or Issagga, so that I can keep the old borders of the old countries. That would mean the old nations bordering Blaland would have to revise their borders though, otherwise there would be exact copies of borders in two places, which would be odd. Hellpotatoe would also have to accept the new location and how the blending land would be drawn.
(http://i.imgur.com/570pGKi.png)
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my proposal is that a bit of land is added south of sagua, making it look better and having a channel of water between blaland and sagua (if there was no channel, the north would be drier) and also hellpotatoe isn't really around anymore to say yes or no so I think fiah should be the one to edit that area
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slightly relevant
i grabbed this from skype cause it was easier so yes it's a picture of my computer screen
if we can figure out a way to input a 128x64 surface (there are surface files) that represents universalis we might be able to simulate something decent
i still haven't done a lot yet, like letting it run for a few years, or postprocessing the data (which might allow for different plots than the ones that are available to run during simulation)
from what i've been able to tell, it's pretty legit, the surface pressure plot looks a bit wonky but then again... so is surface pressure. zonal winds look right, though idk how it compares to a real earth zonal wind plot, precipitable water looks pretty legit though
questions? suggestions? ideas?
i'm going to look into different models and see if i can get them running (WRF, GFDL) some for personal interest (such as simulating TCs) but most likely they won't be as easy to input a universalis into
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looks and sounds cool.
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take my kids
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Did some name editing, added a draft thingy for new lysteriok, and some other surprises Im too tired to mention.
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kolok
(http://i.imgur.com/JWr3IZr.png)
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this is proof that himalia is literally africa
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kol
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Okay I added more thingies
- Changed timezones a bit
- Added geographic name for Dotruga
- Edited Lysteriok draft
- Added the Lysteriokan Federation under intranational organizations
- Yep
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I think you might've used the wrong revision - my temporary layers disappeared between revision 322 and 323
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I think you might've used the wrong revision - my temporary layers disappeared between revision 322 and 323
I checked, and the layers are still there, just not visible.
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Are you sure? What if you download the one you uploaded? These are all the layers I see
(http://i.imgur.com/ARTpsJR.png)
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kol yeah I uploaded the wrong file.
The correct file is up now.
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ok matty you can edit now
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Darvince if you accept the new position, could you update your islands sometimes? I'm not sure which ones you want to preserve.
(http://i.imgur.com/MNcOOfC.png)
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This project is falling to shambles. Christ.
At least a few people are still willing to contribute to this project...
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almost nothing has changed since the first few months of the project, except some people left the forum
the same people have always been contributors (in different quantities and modes) and the same people haven't really done much
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oh Pygcm? That'll be done in 2015 at this rate
Kip deliver
ask for nue's weather simulator i'm sure it'll work just as good
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it's broken right now but i'm sure it can be fixed
i came up with a new advection algorithm but i don't have any motivation to implement it
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i lik pon
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@bla: feel free to erase all of the islands
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what about los frinkas
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i can copy them from another revision (they're going to be south of darvincia)
actually i might just keep lesser frinka
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(http://i.imgur.com/Qgk6KQt.png)
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rip eqirium's peninsula reaching out to red rainbow
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I realized that our geology isn't that hopeless as long as we don't go for an insane level of realism, rather, a moderate one would be sufficient to explain Universalis while not entirely overhauling the planet.
Changes:
- fixed the construction tape north of blaland
- removed ocean currents in the area
- changed tectonic boundaries to make more sense with himalia's upcoming mountains
(http://i.gyazo.com/99319d107a3e2f204d7f7d2b0bdb06d0.png)
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oink oink i'm a revision hog
- added nausicaa (in 327)
- expanded kolokia so it looks better on a sphere (in 328)
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Taken
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Moved elevation and river layers around Blaland and changed elevation a bit in the new areas
Added some new satellite countries, Kulayak, Kuliten, Kiligon, Sebkazo, Sebkuto (city state) and Inevi Paz
The idea is that, if there were some world war after the founding of Blaland, the above areas (maybe except Kulayak) were against Blaland but got occupied during the war, and were later turned into satellites by Blaist Blaland.
(http://i.imgur.com/1moJ8DL.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/itOuIad.png)
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also that lake in kiligon is supposed to be a reservoir
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moderate tectonics are fine
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Added Sebkuto's border (which somehow wasn't on the previous one)
Made it bigger than previously where the city state was pretty much just one pixel. That seems too small even for a city state.
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>sebkuto
Sebtuto
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Here you go my peeps. I call this the Big Update. Here are the changes:
- Edited Dotruga's coastline to make it look more realistic/detailed.
- Added a new nation called Etsenira, a powerful empire much stronger than Aeridani. (Fiah I may have taken some of aeridani and made it Etsenira :/)
- Edited Lysteriok's coastline again to be coherent with Universalis. This whole Lysteriok problem should now be resolved.
- Added Teralm to Dotruga.
- Added a population density layer so we can start making visual data for our nations.
- Redid ocean currents. I have been doing some research lately so I promise it's more accurate now.
- Added a big island chain in the Serkr Ocean.
- Blaist Blaland sounds too English so I changed it to something different. (also for darvincia and Red Rainbow.)
- Refined Dotrugan tribal groups.
- Dotruga now owns all of Kolokia. Even Kallisto. Mudkipz doesn't even go on usfmap so it doesn't matter.
- I don't really like Bongatar's coastline so I made it a 1 pixel island off the coast of Kolokia. Bong hasn't added canon so who cares.
- Got rid of some dumb layers
- Added nations in Himalia. The continent needs some damn nations...
- Did Himalian elevation because Darvince is too damn lazy to do it himself.
- Removed Hitron. Smjjames and shmoopy hasn't contributed at all so why have a blob of nothing on our map?
I don't mean to add these things forcefully but I seriously believe that some of us aren't doing anything at all so, someone has to do something. Other than that, I'm proud of this big update and I believe Universalis has improved a lot in this revision. Yeah it's kinda weird this is a long post but w/e.
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«- Blaist Blaland sounds too English so I changed it to something different. (also for darvincia and Red Rainbow.)»
u wot
oh my fuck i downloaded it and
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I would have preferred giving aliens control of Hitron for some variation and more interesting story but besides from that nice update.
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Here you go my peeps...
What the hell did you just edit, you little noob? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Cartography Class, and I’ve been involved in numerous edits on the USFM, and I have over 300 confirmed edits. I am trained in editing with pixels and I’m the top map editor in the entire US community. You are nothing to me but just another noob. I will wipe you the pixel out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Universalis, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with editing that crap over the Internet? Think again, you sack. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of editors across Universalis and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re dead, maggot. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can erase you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my eraser tool. Not only am I extensively trained in GIMP and Paint.NET, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Photoshop 7 and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable buttocks off the face of the planet, you little hoe. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” edit was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your disgusting tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will unleash fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re dead, kiddo.
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AYYYYYY LMAO
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omfg Naru is going to kill me lmao
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remember usfmap
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This is so dead omg.
I'm honestly quite sad this was a fun project.
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someone start a new usfm spreadsheet for something
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wow updated
- changed lysto coast again
feel free to make any changes fiah/matty
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bla and/or fiah if you want you should stretch out the southern portions of issagga and blaland (as they are, autolik is a very narrow peninsula its entire length)
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it's a florida with a poiky
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bla and/or fiah if you want you should stretch out the southern portions of issagga and blaland (as they are, autolik is a very narrow peninsula its entire length)
no
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?????? It was just a suggestion? You didn't have to do it? I'm not forcing you to do anything I don't want to get into an argument but ????
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evidently the distortion is okay with him
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usf is actually on a cylindrical world remember?
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wow it sank to page 3
anyway here are flags of sagua
the square version is the one that is flown in the nation of sagua
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questions
1. is nausicaa in the free federation of amalthea? how about the other saguan amalthean nations?
2. what are the official governmental statuses of jurisdictions like akaji, plam islands (or w/e)? are they nations? or territories of aiyota and aeridani?
also i'd like himalian nation borders so i can make a map of soleani diplomatic relations
also then we could make a nice political map
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Ṥioni, Bárstekses and Akaji are all part of the Aiyoti Union Empire, meaning that they are citizens of all the countries making up the Empire. (i.e. someone born in Akaji can live in Vikasa, and someone born in Akarine can live in Bárstetkses)
The Aiyoti Union Empire has a complex parliamentary system - simplified below
Ako & Akoi >* Aiyoti Parliament > Akaśik
*in many cases, the Aiyoti Parliament has veto power
Ako and Akoi
The Ako and Akoi are the direct paternal and maternal descendants of the dynasty of the time, respectively.
(under the Seru-Vena system). They have veto power over a referendum if the majority is <60%, or difference between lowest and highest percentage is <12%.
The current Ako is Ladaśa II
The current Akoi is Aǵitsi
They reside in the royal capital, Dasi.
Aiyoti Parliament
This is the parliament that decides main laws, regulations, and federal restrictions for the Aiyoti Union Empire. It also allocates the national budget.
It is in Akanaji, Vikasa.
Akaśik
In Aiyota there are currently five Akaśik, two on the mainland and three overseas.
On the mainland, Vikasa in the north and Saghi-Sakta in the South, as well as Autonomous Special Province Yoka Tsi
These are the lower parliamentary levels that decide the laws of the local region, according to the people.
For example, if in Saghi-Sakta 80% of people voted to legalize Likafa and in Vikasa only 19% of people voted to legalize it, the Aiyoti parliament would not legalize it. However, the Saghi-Sakta parliament could choose to legalize it - within its borders.
The Akaśik are decided through cultural and voting prefences across the 60 Aiyoti Kehú, with mainland citizens having three options (Saghi-Sakta, Vikasa, Other) and Islanders having three (Saghi-Sakta, Vikasa and [Island])
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thank
1. is nausicaa in the free federation of amalthea? how about the other saguan amalthean nations?
also i'd like himalian nation borders so i can make a map of soleani diplomatic relations
also then we could make a nice political map
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don't worry you'll get himalian borders before 2017 i just feel that they must all have
languages phonologies for their languages before I can name them and draw them
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Alright so yesterday naru found some old sketches matty did of lysteriok.
I took a particular liking to one, so I made this.
(http://i.imgur.com/21d1zxL.png)
this is only a sketch, so obviously it's going to be refined in some places later on.
But other than that i really like the shape of the continent. I don't want to change anything because this is kind of up to matty. (but imo this looks a lot better than the current shape sooo)
I also told him to keep dotruga, and maybe a bit of the old coastline (as shown in the sketch)
What do you guys think? It could be improved, but it's already looking good.
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inb4 lysteriokvision
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drafting
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we're lovinosiasing Lysteriok I see how it is
v nice island arc to west
no it's West Loviniosa
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ok draft complete
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remember when matty owned loviniosa
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remember wen united pacific states
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it still exists
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it still exists
Not in my heart.
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[21:52] <Floenne> rip rodafk has lost faith in TUPS
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Should the green outlines be seas? y/n.
After that I'll color the land in.
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it still exists
Not in my heart.
tbh i'd be quite concerned if you somehow managed to insert the united pacific states into your heart
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n that makes the geography too chaotic
interesting
(would like other people's opinions too besides fiah)
anyways, colored in.
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maybe the top left one but not the bottom right one
the top one i don't quite understand why there's (deeper?) ocean inside the continent as opposed to the sea which separates it
the bottom one looks weird
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what's with the reaching for the sea but not quite getting there
also i agree with the chaotic geography this isn't venus
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what's with the reaching for the sea but not quite getting there
also i agree with the chaotic geography this isn't venus
agreed tbh, that's why they were second choice. I mainly wanted to keep it with matty's drafts but found those to be oddly distracting
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right we removed tectonic plates
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yes and now there is no mantle
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universalis shall be an open cylinder
brilliant
with no top or bottom
Stowaway universalis exists on a mobius strip
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Eh idk, I just don't like the shape in general (personally)
I feel Dotruga just kinda sticks out from the rest of the continent, idk if I'm the only one who sees this.
That's why in my sketch Dotruga isn't the largest "part" of the continent, if that makes sense.
Either way this is a much better sketch than Lysteriok's current shape. So nice job.
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I just realized that Naru's sketch is really similar to mines, but slightly different in some areas.
I think in my sketch the rest of the continent is bigger and less jagged (though you can't see much detail in my sketch, but I would assume the coastline is somewhat smooth) so yeah
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that's the thing of drafts; it can always change, hurray!
besides it's not my continent so change away if you see fit (including matty, if he still wants to redraw it entirely). because my draft is just my personal preference (or at least an attempt at it).
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I like the green parts here. But I think the northeast part I marked doesn't blend entirely with Yektonisa.
I think it looks a bit strange with the sea vs continental shelf waters colors in the lakes.
For a draft it seems nice.
(http://i.imgur.com/n8z0JV5.png)
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But I think the northeast part I marked doesn't blend entirely with Yektonisa.
If you mean the shape of it, I believe it's because the northeastern part is on another plate, being an India-esque thing; essentially a large chunk of land that's hitting against the larger one. It's not on the same plate as Yektonisa.
I think it looks a bit strange with the sea vs continental shelf waters colors in the lakes.
It was temporary for people to decide if it should be sea or land. It's gone now, though, since it really messes with the geography so it's all land.
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no remember there are no plates anymore the interior of universalis is hollow
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no remember there are no plates anymore the interior of universalis is hollow
ok
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proposals for nuedar farever nation official name:
Pirák (pronounced with alveolar trill /r/)
Qtsiw (/q.ts.iw/)
dar should suggest things
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(http://i.imgur.com/fjjoDrv.png)
with Amalthean diagonal stripe
gray and darvincyan on a white field
flag of the aforementioned country
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aeridanish stripe is the other direction is it not idk i am an uneducated amalthean i just made it go the same way as the new soleani flag
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solea was imperialized by foreign powers confirmed
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we have a devastating problem with universalis's history: everyone is going to die at some point because of disease exchange as both sides (nausikaa and lysteriok/loviniosa) have complex advanced civilizations with domesticated animals and when they begin to contact each other and begin exchanging stuff, pandemics are going to spread like wildfire and devastate every country
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hi trump
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It is the other way, which is the better way. You're flying your flag backwards, man.
no it's a symbol of anti-aeridanish-ness
we have a devastating problem with universalis's history: everyone is going to die at some point because of disease exchange as both sides (nausikaa and lysteriok/loviniosa) have complex advanced civilizations with domesticated animals and when they begin to contact each other and begin exchanging stuff, pandemics are going to spread like wildfire and devastate every country
yes good so give me a number how many people die
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like 90% of people die
Darvince because of multiple sentient species
yes jesus lived in saunvare 400 thousand years ago
[23:28] what if AG is after gorchul
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like 90% of people die
perfect
this sounds like an event we can have fun with
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labelled Pirák and Enapi (which was not labelled apparently) and added small (pixelated) Soleani script names for zoletha, tepodi, and pirák:
(read them upwards)
(https://i.gyazo.com/3ef93595371ec1f87626d5ffed262d1a.png)
pi ra˦-k
the bar on the right of the glyph for ra˦-k is the high tone modifier, marked on the hook part of the 'ra' base glyph
do not confuse this with the long vowel modifier, which would located along the shaft of the glyph, in the case of r- that would be on the left side of the curved vertical bar
(https://i.gyazo.com/880b43d8dbfbba9fec4dc58210847962.png)
zo le tha
(https://i.gyazo.com/9497c0e65c91d71a41f8bda308f0734b.png)
te po di
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FIXED LYSTERIOK
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fiah you can come back to universalis now
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fiah you can come back to universalis now
tbh
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fixed map alignment issues
I see that in this revision, the "center" of the world has changed along the east-west direction, why? What were the issues? Are the issues related to what I'm talking about here?
Unless there's a reason for the change, I don't really agree with it. It cuts through a chain of islands now and the change would require redoing the time zones (or having a date line different from the east/west map chop, which seems unnecessary imo). I don't see the problem there was before or any benefit of changing it so I'd suggest reverting it. Would people agree with that?
Reverting it on revision 334 shouldn't be a big problem if it was a big revision.
Before is left and after is right.
(http://i.imgur.com/20RHx8d.png) (http://i.imgur.com/I88Bgmt.png)
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fiji
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fiji
Yes, Fiji exists on Earth. But that's not a reason why we should move our axis to cut through a group of islands rather than just the ocean. Could you explain any of what I asked about if you know why the revision happened? I wasn't on irc so I guess I missed something but 'fiji' really isn't a compelling reason for me at all.
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i don't have a compelling argument to counter your reasoning because i don't care enough about usfmap to form one so do whatever you want
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i agree with bla, why was it moved? what did that accomplish?
and whoever realigned the map still forgot stuff
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It's fair enough you don't care, I'm still curious what the problem was or why it was moved though. I assume it wasn't moved just out of boredom in 333. And wanting to come up with an argument after I asked about it seems a bit strange Darvince? We shouldn't have an argument just for the sake of an argument. I'm just asking if there was any good reason why it was moved, and if there was, I assume those reasons were thought of before moving it and not invented afterwards just to have an argument.
Anyway let's just change it back then. I will probably have time to do it in July.
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rip this thread is probably not going to reach 100 pages
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we can do it guys 29 more posts
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tbh
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taken
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jk jk you can have it back
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shud i start a poll on how many revisions pavala will get
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kk
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fucking bump
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rip this thread is probably not going to reach 100 pages
we can do it guys 29 more posts
were there three pages of deleted posts or is syule just high
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why not both?
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L
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gg
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don't worry you'll get himalian borders before 2017 i just feel that they must all have languages phonologies for their languages before I can name them and draw them
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:gazelemon: