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Author Topic: Map War 2 - G7  (Read 1413446 times)

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R19T1 - Atomic7732
« Reply #5010 on: November 24, 2013, 04:47:11 AM »
Bong can spend 313 resources.

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R19T2 - Bong
« Reply #5011 on: November 24, 2013, 11:41:16 AM »
umbongo

um bong go :P

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R19T2 - Bong
« Reply #5012 on: November 24, 2013, 04:30:30 PM »
sooo
attacked
4 level 1 extrators: 40
4 level 1 sea base: 40
4 level 0 land area: 10
1 level 2 milit base: 75
1 level 1 milit base: 25

upgraded
3 level 3 cities: 42
4 level 2 cities: 28
2 level 4 cities: 50

total: 310
313 - 310 = 3

wait is thsi round tech change orsomething? what's my current tech?
wait i think it's next turn

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R19T2 - Bong
« Reply #5013 on: November 24, 2013, 06:36:53 PM »
i have 2 resources left according to nuecalc

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R19T2 - Bong
« Reply #5014 on: November 24, 2013, 09:32:41 PM »
330 spent

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R19T2 - Bong
« Reply #5015 on: November 24, 2013, 10:43:59 PM »
What is nuecalc?

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R19T2 - Bong
« Reply #5016 on: November 25, 2013, 12:00:54 AM »
my paper-based calculations (for myself) combined with atomic's calculator which is apparently inaccurate (for nue)

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R19T2 - Bong
« Reply #5017 on: November 25, 2013, 12:05:52 AM »
Link to his calc?

I don't get why you would use paper or whatever when you can just use the one I made, or what is wrong with it?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31772508/Blacalc%20Map%20War%202.xlsx

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R19T2 - Bong
« Reply #5018 on: November 25, 2013, 12:12:27 AM »
I have to open laggy excel and also I printed page 7 of the PDF because they're so laggy on my computer

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R19T2 - Bong
« Reply #5019 on: November 25, 2013, 12:43:17 AM »
<Kalassak> what is nuecalc
<Kalassak> i was waiting for your answer :P
<sagua> uhh the thing you use to calculate
<sagua> I thought you used the one that is in the temporary mw2 document???
<sagua> or had some other unofficial one?
<Kalassak> i haven't used any calc excels or anything ever
<Kalassak> the past few turns i've done literally what i posted last turn of mine
<Kalassak> i just type it into google and look at the manual
<sagua> oh
<sagua> tell that to Bla because idk
<sagua> tell that to Bla on mw2 topic
<Kalassak> you're the one that used it
<Kalassak> i would assume you have the file
<sagua> that used what
<Kalassak> idk i recall making a calc but i thought it was broken or needed to be checked or something
<Kalassak> my calculationy thing
<Kalassak> oh wait
<Kalassak> there's an xslx or whatever that i made once
<sagua> nuecalc is a google document made by me iirc
<Kalassak> yes
<Kalassak> so then
<Kalassak> i'm confused
<sagua> goo put this in mw2 topic

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R19T2 - Bong
« Reply #5020 on: November 25, 2013, 01:16:53 PM »
Ok, unfortunately there was an error in the Blacalc - the production boost of level 2, 3 and 4 extractors were accidentally unchanged in the update from game 5 to 6, which means it was much too big in the calculation, so everybody's productions have been somewhat too high, especially Atomic's. Upgrading gives this production boost according to the rules

Level 2 = 10 (20 in calc)
Level 3 = 25 (80 in calc)
Level 4 = 40 (240 in calc)

These errors have been fixed in the version that I have uploaded to the Dropbox link now. I have also recalculated all your zones and production on the latest map after your turns were taken, so you could spend the resources that were displayed on the scoreboard.

Also, my calculations don't seem to agree with Naru, and especially Bong's turn doesn't seem to have anything to do with what he wrote in his post. From my calculations you overspent by just below 20%.
Note: The attached G5R19T2.xlsx file here is without the fix for extractor production. For calculating the costs of your turns the errors shouldn't have made any difference though.



So round 20 has begun. Atomic can spend 579 resources and everyone can set their tech rates when taking their turn.

Also here's the G6 calc imported to Google docs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhyGV27WETcEdGtoQ0ZpU3hlRTUzZkdvbW5nRGc4RVE#gid=0
I will probably not maintain it, anyway you could easily privately import the Blacalc to Google docs after downloading it from Dropbox and just use it in a browser if you wanted to.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2013, 01:24:40 PM by Bla »

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T1 - Atomic7732
« Reply #5021 on: November 25, 2013, 01:38:09 PM »
6*10+25+3*(3*10)+5*13+2*7+3*93+25

i own the south pole

tech to 8%

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T1 - Atomic7732
« Reply #5022 on: November 25, 2013, 01:39:29 PM »
Oh yes while you're being all official I might as well have mentioned the darcalc that had accurate productions for game 6 but of course Bla never makes mistakes Blallmighty Bla heil.

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T1 - Atomic7732
« Reply #5023 on: November 25, 2013, 01:53:52 PM »
Bong can spend 199 resources and set tech rate.

Oh yes while you're being all official I might as well have mentioned the darcalc that had accurate productions for game 6 but of course Bla never makes mistakes Blallmighty Bla heil.
I never said I didn't make mistakes, I probably make plenty because Map War 2 is so complicated, but I do my best to avoid them and that's also why I just spent 1-2 hours recounting all the values on the map pretty much one week after I did the same thing when the game was started again just so you people can play. If you find a mistake though you should point it out rather than making your own calc and ignoring the error.

In my recent post I simply asked why people didn't use the Blacalc, and it didn't seem to have anything to do with the error, but rather was because you were too lazy to open Excel. Maybe the reason why I asked was because I was wondering if I had made an error in the calculator. I was interested in how I could make the calculator so good that people wouldn't need unofficial alternatives. You didn't write any errors though but I put it in a Google doc so you wouldn't have to open it in Excel, which seemed to be your issue.

I don't exactly see why you are now writing that personal attack as always hiding behind your arrogant wall of sarcasm, but if you want to start that, do go on and make yourself look even more stupid.

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T1 - Atomic7732
« Reply #5024 on: November 25, 2013, 02:51:17 PM »
Oh yes while you're being all official I might as well have mentioned the darcalc that had accurate productions for game 6 but of course Bla never makes mistakes Blallmighty Bla heil.

No need to make unnecessary comments. You shouldn't recreate another bad blood, Darvince. You're better than this.

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T2 - Bong
« Reply #5025 on: November 25, 2013, 03:02:34 PM »
<blotz>omg bla do you like alt-tab between pictures checking if their correct for every single turn?
<blotz>that's what i did
<blotz>it's PAINFUL

Here's how I do it
Blaist Map War 2 Check Method

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T2 - Bong
« Reply #5026 on: November 26, 2013, 01:06:36 PM »
overspend 4?
10 sea zones (some mi mght be extators or whatever put i put them all as sea)
and 1 sea zone 2 distances os 3 multiplier
and 1 land zone 2 distance so 3 multiplier
upped 1 level 1 military
upped 1 level 3 military
upped 2 level 2 cities

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T2 - Bong
« Reply #5027 on: November 26, 2013, 01:11:39 PM »
Turn invalid, you can't conquer zones from a distance without also conquering zones so that it is adjacent to your zones.

(You can't conquer the level 4 extractor on land)

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T2 - Bong
« Reply #5028 on: November 26, 2013, 01:16:20 PM »
ok so just like take out me conquering that zone

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T2 - Bong
« Reply #5029 on: November 26, 2013, 01:25:23 PM »
ok so scratch that instead i will make a level3 military

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T2 - Bong
« Reply #5030 on: November 26, 2013, 01:29:05 PM »
Darvince can spend 275 resources.

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T3 - Darvince
« Reply #5031 on: November 26, 2013, 03:46:26 PM »
kolkute

edit: blacalc is cute i'm just trying to figure out if there's a way for you to put in your technology then cells for upgrading infrastructure become gray or some other color indicating invalidation
« Last Edit: November 26, 2013, 03:54:20 PM by Darvince »

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T3 - Darvince
« Reply #5032 on: November 26, 2013, 04:13:42 PM »
Blacalc says I have 1 whole resource left.

Keep tech the same
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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T3 - Darvince
« Reply #5033 on: November 26, 2013, 08:52:44 PM »
476 spent.

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T3 - Darvince
« Reply #5034 on: November 27, 2013, 02:05:43 PM »
I will almost surely have time to update this tomorrow in about 18 hours.
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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T3 - Darvince
« Reply #5035 on: November 27, 2013, 02:33:47 PM »
extra with? anyways i'm fine with that

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R20T3 - Darvince
« Reply #5036 on: November 28, 2013, 07:30:51 AM »
Round 21 has begun! Atomic can spend 682 resources.

Btw, use the map below - I removed a level 3 city on a zone where Bong added two city levels in a single turn.

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R21T1 - Atomic7732
« Reply #5037 on: December 01, 2013, 11:59:55 AM »
Atomic's turn has expired, Bong can spend 369 resources.

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R21T1 - Bong
« Reply #5038 on: December 01, 2013, 12:52:45 PM »
7*10 + 5*30 + 27 + 270 + 5*25 + 2*13

MY SOUTH POLE >:(

edit: oops i might have done a level 5 where i couldn't, i thought it was a level 3

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Re: Map War 2 - G6R21T1 - Bong
« Reply #5039 on: December 01, 2013, 01:52:31 PM »
Yes, I removed a level from the level 5 city, because you built two levels in one turn. Bong can spend 369 resources on this mapw.