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This topic is about NationStates
http://www.nationstates.net/
My main nations are
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=blaist_blaland
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_land_of_the_red_rainbow
Cute flag.
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wut
Where did you get that from and how is that a utopia?
But that is an awesome flag.
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NationStates (http://www.nationstates.net/).
I am Blaist Blaland (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=blaist_blaland). And my cuteness has increased to 0.093 Mikkels. Kolkolkol.
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Make a separate topic for NationStates.
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I'm the United Socialist States of Spheron Rilmu, since unfortunately Socialist State isn't available.
What region are you in?
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Communist International League (http://www.nationstates.net/region=communist_international_league)
Post a link to your nashun pl0x so I can add you to my dossier.
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Spheron Rilmu's Page (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=spheron_rilmu)
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Excessive political freedoms? Mine are a world benchmark.
I care and tolerate more than ponies.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=ethanthova (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=ethanthova)
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Oh I joined. http://www.nationstates.net/nation=solea_and_rift_auspikitan (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=solea_and_rift_auspikitan)
I searched TableRase up like one minute after I replied.
"World Assembly"... Oh god that sounds so horrible...
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Excessive political freedoms? Mine are a world benchmark.
I care and tolerate more than ponies.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=ethanthova (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=ethanthova)
Nice nation!
Oh I joined. http://www.nationstates.net/nation=solea_and_rift_auspikitan (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=solea_and_rift_auspikitan)
I searched TableRase up like one minute after I replied.
"World Assembly"... Oh god that sounds so horrible...
It used to be the United Nations, but then it took an arrow in the knee (http://www.maxbarry.com/2008/04/02/news.html).
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lolwhat http://www.nationstates.net/nation=starrie (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=starrie)
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Korrupt diktatorship kolwut? :P
*Also got a bit konfused at first when I clicked the link, and landed on Blaist Blaland. :s*
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holyshit 5% muder what...
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=starrie/detail=people (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=starrie/detail=people)
...it better be me who's doing the mudering.
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You should join either:
The United Pacific States (http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_united_pacific_states)
Communist International League (http://www.nationstates.net/region=communist_international_league)
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How do you change your flag?
Settings.
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http://www.nationstates.net/nation=bielosia (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=bielosia)
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Once you have 50 million you can make a custom title.
And I made The Armed Republic of New Pegasopolis (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=new_pegasopolis) just so I could have a nation in Equestria, and ya know support them and such. It's a Corrupt Dictatorship under the rule of Commander Hurricane. wheeeee
82 minutes ago: Following new legislation in New Pegasopolis, a dictator has seized power and outlawed elections.
It was founded under Private Pansy... but...
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Are you trying to be North Korea? :P
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The Armed Republic of New Pegasopolis is a fledgling, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its enforced nudity. Its compassionate, cynical population of 6 million are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich. In their personal lives, however, citizens are relatively unoppressed; it remains to be seen whether this is because the government genuinely cares about its people, or if it hasn't gotten around to stamping out civil rights yet.
The enormous, socially-minded government juggles the competing demands of Education, Social Welfare, and Healthcare. The average income tax rate is 37%, but much higher for the wealthy. A very small private sector is dominated by the Uranium Mining industry.
Public nudity is compulsory, voting is compulsory, the right to free speech is being drastically curtailed, and a dictator has seized power and outlawed elections. Crime is well under control. New Pegasopolis's national animal is the cloud, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the bit.
Kol... A tree-cloud-hugging corrupt dictatorship enforcing public nudity and compulsory voting.
“Kinkatar xy ifurek”
Exactly. I agree.
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Kol... A tree-cloud-hugging corrupt dictatorship enforcing public nudity and compulsory voting.
Which is probably why it is corrupt.
“Kinkatar xy ifurek”
Exactly. I agree.
It means "Knowledge with you."
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I thought compulsory voting was a good thing, that's why I did it for my nation as well... Even America has freedom for voting, you don't have to vote.
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i herd u liek pewpew
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=starrie?censusid=59 (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=starrie?censusid=59)
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Are you serious? I have -3 weaponization. Man, my nation is really unfair.
But that also means I'm safer than your nation!
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lol what, your average citizen has -3 weapons
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i herd u liek pewpew
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=starrie?censusid=59 (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=starrie?censusid=59)
Nopz (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=blaist_blaland+starrie?censusid=47).
I thought compulsory voting was a good thing, that's why I did it for my nation as well... Even America has freedom for voting, you don't have to vote.
Hmm. But what would people vote for if you were forced to? If people are completely clueless about the world and politics (and are brave enough to admit it, unlike the ones who would vote for people like the currently popular republicans), isn't it better to just leave them alone? As long as they have the option, and society provides them with a free education and so on, but they waste it... I think it's probably best that they didn't go into the voting box and randomly picked a box to tick off or whatever they might do.
My state is the proud owner of -57 weapons pr. inhabitant!
"75 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, leather-clad individuals can be seen walking their slaves in public parks."
Kol.
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Is there a way to get rid of your nation when you screw it up?
Edit: Nevermind, you can't. Unfortunately...
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Following new legislation in Spheron Rilmu, it is illegal to make racist remarks in public.
No, I didn't say that, I said no Nazism!
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Every decision causes dramatic effects. You can quickly take control of your nation.
Look at Starrie, mudkipz was a corrupt dictator and it became a Capitalist Paradise. New Pegasopolis also went the other way, from Liberal Democratic Socialists to Corrupt Dictatorship.
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Your kind are not of the Starrie race, so we look down upon you. We'd rather you not try and persuade us to change this view, it just comes naturally. We are prejudice like that.
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Anarchy (Left: Post-Revolution Embryonic Society) (Right: Lawless Wasteland)
Authoritarian Democracy (Left: Mouth-Breathing Creationists) (Right: Slightly Oppressive But A Little Discipline Never Hurt Anyone State)
Benevolent Dictatorship (Left: Temporary Liberal State of Emergency) (Right: Temporary Conservative State of Emergency)
Capitalist Paradise (Left: Corporate Slave State) (Right: Decent Hard Working Self-Starters)
Capitalizt (Left: Self-Congratulatory Merchant Bankers) (Right: Freedom-Loving Libertarians)
Civil Rights Lovefest (Left: Brave Progressives) (Right: Nation-Hating Hippies)
Compulsory Consumerist State (Left: Consumerist Wage Drones) (Right: Aspirational Workers State)
Conservative Democracy (Left: Conservative Hell) (Right: Conservative Paradise)
Corporate Bordello (Left: Blood-Sucking Capitalist Leeches) (Right: Patriotic Business Zone)
Corporate Police State (Left: Halliburton) (Right: Entrepreneurial Freedom Zone)
Corrupt Dictatorship (Left: Well-Meaning Dictatorship) (Right: Corrupt Liberal Dictatorship)
Democratic Socialists (Left: Ordinary Caring Intelligent World Citizens) (Right: Hell)
Father/Mother Knows Best State (Left: Suspiciously Conservative Democracy) (Right: Suspiciously Liberal Dictatorship)
Free Market Paradise (Left: Randriods) (Right: Paradise)
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy (Left: Fascists) (Right: Communists)
Iron Fist Consumerists (Left: Imperialist Pig Dog Oppressors) (Right: Champions of Commerce)
Iron Fist Socialists (Left: Equality and Tolerance Society) (Right: Inevitably Bloody Results of Liberal Ideals Mugged by Reality)
Left-Leaning College State (Left: Paradise) (Right: Deluded Tax and Spend Hypocrites)
Left-Wing Utopia (Left: Utopia) (Right: Drugged Out Hippies)
Liberal Democratic Socialists (Left: Open-Minded Education State) (Right: Ivory Tower Reality Disconnect Zone)
Libertarian Police State (Left: Slightly Overzealous Peoples Democracy) (Right: Government Enforced Political Correctness Society)
Moralistic Democracy (Left: Narrow-Minded Backwoodsy Bigots) (Right: Ordinary Decent Hard Working People)
New York Times Democracy (Left: Corporate-Dominated Sham Democracy) (Right: New York Crimes So-Called Democracy)
Psychotic Dictatorship (Left: Fascist Dictatorship) (Right: Communist Dictatorship)
Right-Wing Utopia (Left: Corrupt Thieving Uneducated Fascist Fundamentalists) (Right: Utopia)
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise (Left: Normal) (Right: Gay Marriage State)
Tyranny By Majority (Left: Tyranny by Bourgeois) (Right: Thieves)
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http://liberal.nationstates.net/region=the_united_pacific_states (http://liberal.nationstates.net/region=the_united_pacific_states)
http://conservative.nationstates.net/region=the_united_pacific_states (http://conservative.nationstates.net/region=the_united_pacific_states)
Very krolling, conservative.
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Oh, I see now, that the theme changes the nation classifications.
lol'd at Civil Rights Lovefest Nation-Hating Hippies
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iKol'd at
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise Gay-Marriage State, especially because Denmark is Scandinavian but gays can't marry and call it marriage.
*Soon, though*
Idrc about being able to do it in the church, it's just ridiculous that the concept from the church gets a special status and recognizion, thus making it discrimination to exclude people from it.
I think NationStates is making a mistake by calling the left "Liberal" and the right "Conservative". There are many people who don't fall into those two categories, but the terms still seem to be used to cover everything. And in Denmark liberals and conservatives are allied on the right... It just makes it feel like picking one of two poisons.
Also kol'd at
Father/Mother Knows Best State (Left: Suspiciously Conservative Democracy) (Right: Suspiciously Liberal Dictatorship)
Authoritarian Democracy (Left: Mouth-Breathing Creationists) (Right: Slightly Oppressive But A Little Discipline Never Hurt Anyone State)
Benevolent Dictatorship (Left: Temporary Liberal State of Emergency) (Right: Temporary Conservative State of Emergency)
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"Freedom for all!"
Political Freedoms: Below Average
Civil Rights: Below Average
That doesn't even make any sense, I should change my motto to "No freedom!"
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Well your political freedoms are 2 below 50 and your civil rights are exactly 50.
Your motto could be the ideal of your nation, what you try to achieve. It doesn't have to be exactly what it is now. You can't make your perfect nation overnight in NationStates, it takes a long time to go through a lot of policies which will affect your nation a bit each time you respond to them.
And if you make a mistake, there aren't an infinite number of issues either, so sooner or later I guess you'll get the same one again... Although I haven't got the same issue twice yet.
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i'll oppress my citizens until they uhhh kaboom
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=starrie/detail=trend (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=starrie/detail=trend)
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I suggest making bungee jumping compulsory.
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I have liek....too many citizens dying of mud explosure.
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I have 2 questions.
Do those badge things only get rewarded if the World Census reports on that specific attribute is posted up?
And do you lose them on your page if you drop out of say, the top 10% of extreme countries in the world?
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No, that's actually bad.
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Because it's easier to suicide.
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It seems Starrie is the most corrupt
No. Not even close. You haven't seen New Pegasopolis. ;D
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Apparently you forgot Bla's and my country.
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He was doing countries in the UPS. Although he did forget matty (and shmoopy).
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I think it's just a random graphing thing the WA does.
"59 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Ethanthova, bizarre-looking creatures called 'Dovedogs' dominate wildlife preserves."
I laughed so hard. Half-bird half-dog.
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I think it's just a random graphing thing the WA does.
"59 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Ethanthova, bizarre-looking creatures called 'Dovedogs' dominate wildlife preserves."
I laughed so hard. Half-bird half-dog.
You should had seen when our national animal mutated into "African Grey Parrotdogs"...
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Loooool
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Oh yeah! My Economy is strong, Civil Rights are average, and Political Freedoms are good.
Edit: I'm now an Inoffensive Centrist Democracy too...
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wtf
"I agree, but go further: there is never a right time for euthanasia," says Bishop George W. Bush. "The lives we lead are given to us by the grace of God, and he decides when they end. It is not for us to question God's divine purpose, no matter how odd or screwed-up it may seem."
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Wow, just wow.
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I maid dictatorshiop.
S̄āṭhārṇrạṭ̄h Prachāṭhiptịy of Lyintaria (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=lyintaria)
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96 minutes ago: Blaist Blaland was reclassified from "Democratic Socialists" to "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy".
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............
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96 minutes ago: Blaist Blaland was reclassified from "Democratic Socialists" to "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy".
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............
>:D
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Damn it, I'm now a capitalist paradise. That just ruined my country right there.
I'm now in the region of Capitalist Paradise, and I've renamed my country to United States of Spheron Rilmu (but off of that site, my country is still socialist.)
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5 hours ago: New Pegasopolis was ranked in the Top 5% of the world for Most Authoritarian.
5 hours ago: New Pegasopolis was ranked in the Top 5% of the region for Most Authoritarian.
Heck yes.
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Damn it, I'm now a capitalist paradise. That just ruined my country right there.
I'm now in the region of Capitalist Paradise, and I've renamed my country to United States of Spheron Rilmu (but off of that site, my country is still socialist.)
According to Marx's theory of history:
Primitive communism -> Slave society -> Feudalism -> Capitalism -> Socialism -> Communism
You could try (just a suggestion) to go capitalism until you get a very strong economy (if it will/should give you that (I bet it will in NationStates)), and then turn socialist. The Communist International League also has some plans for that in its economic package.
I'm trying to jump directly into socialism instead, which I think is more exciting.
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I am capitalist, didn't you just read the word capitalist in what I just said?
I already do have a strong economy, but I don't want it to look weird because it's a capitalist paradise.
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I did, I was just suggesting it since it looked like you didn't want that to happen... It's up to you.
As for a strong economy, I mean one which has stayed at 100 for at least a month.
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Following new legislation in Spheron Rilmu, meat is a luxury afforded only to the wealthy.
That's not what I said, I said to reduce usage of meat.
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Remember, exaggerated results. It'll get pushed out of your nation's description as new legislations are passed in the future anyhow. ;)
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Well that's stupid, I don't want exaggerated results, I want realistic results!
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19 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Lyintaria, the government is avowedly atheist.
1 day ago: Bielosia was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Corporate Bordello".
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7 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the nation's first space rocket -- sponsored by Pepsi and shaped like an enormous soda bottle -- is being developed.
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no its called compulsory nudity and you should try it too.
what happened to you quitting
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inb4 you delete this thread
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5514.0.html (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5514.0.html)
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Why are you not putting me in your data!
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no its called compulsory nudity and you should try it too.
y u copy new pegasopolis >:(
Why are you not putting me in your data!
You aren't in our region. If you notice, Bla isn't in the statistics either.
lol
Economies are overrated.
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That's Naru... and I believe Lyintaria joined three days ago.
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You should look at the weather stat!~ :P
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Aeridani - you
Solea and Rift Auspikitan - me
Peoria - my friend
Darvincia - Darvince
Bielosia - Naru
Starrie - mudkipz
Ethanthova - matty
Lyintaria - Naru (alternate)
New Pegasopolis - me (alternate)
New Unicornia - Darvince (alternate)
Spheron Rilmu - deoxy
Fiah, that should change automatically every day unless you didn't reload the page or something.
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http://www.nationstates.net/nation=starrie/detail=people (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=starrie/detail=people)
how do people die of bungee jumping?
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The bungee cables break.
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i thought they were over exaggerating/being sarcastic.....
2 hours ago: Following new legislation in Starrie, poets and writers are regularly rounded up and shot for entertainment.
...what have i done...
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Okay now I think this is absolutely idiotic:
Following new legislation in Spheron Rilmu, TV shows must meet strict ethnicity quotas.
What the heck? Now this time I seriously clicked on not use quotas! This game is really pissing me off.
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Kolkolkol. >:D
I'm messing with the entire interforumwebthingy.
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The United Pacific States contains 8 nations, the 1,337th most in the world.
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How do you make a region?
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low-res flag
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I don't even odd.
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I don't even odd.
I've just got that issue too.
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A violent and rather messy stampede of robot dragons during a parade in your honour has brought widespread media attention to the shortage of blood, plasma and platelet donors in Lyintaria.
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A violent and rather messy stampede of robot dragons during a parade in your honour has brought widespread media attention to the shortage of blood, plasma and platelet donors in Lyintaria.
How funny, the exact same thing happened in Blaist Blaland a few days ago. Except that the violent stampede was led by African Grey Parrots.
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Flag for The Tri-national Dominion.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/15p4wap.jpg)
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51 minutes ago: Following new legislation in New Pegasopolis, there have been reports of people marrying housepets.
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"In a bid to provide a new revenue stream for Mojang AB's Beef-Based Agriculture industry, it has been suggested that creepers could be added to the menu."
Beef = creepers apparently.
Wait, why would you want to become a creeper? Eating gunpowder? Good god.
"We could have creeper kebabs, creeper pies, creeper-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless! Let's not pass up this golden opportunity to provide a feast, if you will, for our economy."
Lolwut.
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Wtf mudkipz's weather is worse than mine now.
DAMNIT MUDKIPZ!
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pffft a bad place you say? Well i can sit in my palace all day and indulge in whatever i want :)
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1 day 7 hours ago: Blaist Blaland was reclassified from "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy" to "Democratic Socialists".
1 day 7 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the government seizes private property for the 'good of the people'.
Hmm, let's take a closer look at that...
1 day 7 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the government seizes private property for the good of the people.
1 day 7 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the government seizes 'private' property for the good of the people.
I think that's how it was supposed to be. :)
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We have control of all our nations' Internet service. :)
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We provide it. Free access for every citizen. We don't censor it. :P
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"Hah! Like that will work!" snorts Billy Laine, Minister of Waste Disposal and Sanitation. "They'll just come after the rest of us and destroy the government from the bottom up! No, we need to go even further - reinforce the Parliament! We'll turn Lyintaria City into an impenetrable fortress! Robot bodyguards, food tasters... no expense should be spared! We should all do our jobs through a complex network of computers so we never have to leave the safety of our offices again!"
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wtf
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"Skirts On The Dinner Table? [unaddressed]"
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"The fact is, the Skirt population is out of control," says Beef-Based Agriculture spokesperson Jacob Mombota. "We have to do something about them anyway, so why not market them as tasty snacks? We could have Skirt kebabs, Skirt pies, Skirt-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless! Let's not pass up this golden opportunity to provide a feast, if you will, for our economy."
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6 hours ago: Following new legislation in Lyintaria, nobody ever seems to enter or leave the armour-plated flying castle that serves as Lyintaria's House of Parliament.
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The YoungWorld (http://"http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_youngworld") - It's the place to be!
An ancient and active region with it's own website, forum, facebook page and NSWiki site.
Created in 2004, The YoungWorld (http://"http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_youngworld") were the first region to hold all the Warzones at the same time. It's forum boasts a popular Role Playing section, and plenty more to do and see, with some of the most experienced players in the game.
The YoungWorld NSWiki (http://"http://nswiki.net/index.php?title=The_YoungWorld)
Join The YoungWorld (http://"http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_youngworld") today!
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hi i be a old world
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wtf nationstates spammers
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kol, i thought you were bla, but then i saw you type "wtf" and bla doesn't do that >.> <.<
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But no option to let men leave the job to take care of a child?...
/Dismissed
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wtf
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The Issue
Vocal members of the Moral Minority have been complaining and petitioning the government about the new art gallery displaying several provocative nude portraits by several famous artists. Moral Minority members claim these pieces of work promote prostitution and indecent sexual acts.
The Debate
"Stop my children from looking at smut! These artists are only perverts pretending to be artists! Think of the children!" says Stefanie Usman, proud parent and member of Mothers Promoting Purity. "These artists are only going to rouse our innocent children to commit grotesque acts of immorality! Get rid of it all!"
The solution here is simple.
Don't take your children to a NUDE FINE ART EXHIBIT.
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The solution here is simple.
Don't take your children to a NUDE FINE ART EXHIBIT.
lols
PLACE YOUR VOTE, NOW! FOR A BETTER ETHANTHOVA!
(then I remembered Nazism is National Socialism. Oops. This was supposed to be the logo for the current party in parliament.)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/25jv2af.jpg)
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The solution here is simple.
Don't take your children to a NUDE FINE ART EXHIBIT.
Kolyes.
What about just Ethanthova Socialist Party? Ethantova always "says" it's national.
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I liked the sound of NESP over ESP, ESP sounds like that paranormal stuff. But meh.
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SPE? Socialist Party of Ethantova?
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SPE? Socialist Party of Ethantova?
ON IT/me mashes keyboard
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Kol!
The Issue
High ranking officials and devout followers of a major religion have requested that the government close down retail stores during the Sabbath in accordance to their religious views.
The Debate
1: "It's written in our sacred texts that our Creator took the seventh day for rest, and so should we!" says Lara Brown, a devout follower of a major religion. "To work on the Sabbath is an insult to our Creator, and I think the last thing Blaist Blaland needs is eternal damnation. Shut down all retail stores for the Sabbath! Besides, who wants to work then anyway?"
2: "I'm afraid that's not going far enough," adds Buy Jefferson, a high-ranking official in the Synod of Zealous Religious Fanatics. "This shouldn't apply to just retail stores. Everything must be shut down! Hospitals, government agencies, police, and other emergency services. Sure, it'll be dangerous and likely cause some death, but saving our souls from eternal damnation should be our priority. Blaist Blaland must do all it can to appease the almighty Creator."
3: "You're not really going to listen to what these nutjobs are proposing, are you?" asks Xu Li, your atheist economic adviser. "Think about the damage this would cause to the economy. Isn't that more important than appeasing a few nuts? If anything, we should be requiring that all retail stores remain open twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. Just think of all that unlimited shopping time!"
4: Slacker blogger Freddy Levy, still in pajamas and eating a pizza slice on a ratty couch, sends you a video chat invitation. "Dude, why not just give everybody shorter work weeks? Make flex time, telecommuting, and 35-hour work weeks mandatory for all us working folk. Trust me, the people will love you for it man!"
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I'm leaning towards 3, but having shops open all the time seems completely ridiculous and only makes sense from an irrational, short-sighted capitalist, consumerist perspective. And option 4 seems too zlackery... Irdk. But yes, those who can should ofc use electrionic communication instead of driving to work each day, if they do it all on their coms anyway.
I can imagine my economy drop to 0 if I choose option 4, though. :P
Hmmm......
I think I'll just go with the message in 3. Our economy is not doing good according to NationStates, so everyone, go work some more.
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The Issue
A medical report has detailed a twenty-fold increase in infection rates over the past ten years of the sexually transmitted disease VODAIS (Viral Overactive Dysfunction of the Auto-Immune System). People all over the nation are petitioning that the government do something about the epidemic.
The Debate
"This situation is about to explode. At this rate, this epidemic could severely impact our economy, our way of life, and even our government," says Doctor Lars Clinton. "We must supply powerful drugs to all infected people, even if we have to produce and distribute it ourselves. We must also educate people on the dangers of VODAIS and supply condoms to all sexually active males. Sure, we'll need to divert tax money from the military to fund all this, but what good is a military if the soldiers are too sick to fight?"
"If you supply condoms, you'll increase sexual promiscuity," scoffs religious leader Jamil Jefferson. "If you supply drugs, you'll risk creating an aura of invincibility which in turn increases sexual promiscuity. Sexual abstinence is 100% effective in preventing VODAIS infection. This knowledge must be taught at all schools and workplaces, and all other choices must be ridiculed. Make celibacy the only option!"
"Supplying drugs and condoms will not stop VODAIS infections and forcing everyone to be celibate will be the slow death of Spheron Rilmu," whispers Health Minister Jacob Brown in a poorly-lit back room. "Segregating the infected people is the most effective method. Everybody in Spheron Rilmu must be tested for VODAIS. Then all the VODAIS positive people will be shipped to seperate gated communities away from the rest of us. If they need to mingle with uninfected people, then they must wear distinguishing badges that feature a Grim Reaper holding a skeletal Cuboid."
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do i winning
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=distortialis/detail=trend (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=distortialis/detail=trend)
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A tabloid magazine, The National Incriminator, has revealed the sordid details of an affair between one of your top advisors, Robert Lotsalovin, and his secretary.
In a bid to provide a new revenue stream for New Dirtville's Beef-Based Agriculture industry, it has been suggested that ponys could be added to the menu.
1. "The fact is, the pony population is out of control," says Beef-Based Agriculture spokesperson Stefanie Steele. "We have to do something about them anyway, so why not market them as tasty snacks? We could have pony kebabs, pony pies, pony-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless! Let's not pass up this golden opportunity to provide a feast, if you will, for our economy."
2. "I agree that something needs to be done about pony over-population," says random passer-by Aaron Union, "but eating them? That's kind of gross. Let's just shoot the ones we have to and shovel their bodies into ditches like normal."
3. "I am shocked and appalled!" declared SPCA President Thomas Pushkin. "If anyone needs to be culled, it's us humans. The ponys were here first, remember? We need to take this as a sign to get our industry--agriculture in particular--to back off. The pony is part of what makes New Dirtville a great nation!"
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>Beef
>Ponies
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The Skirtists are spreading.....
(http://i.imgdiode.com/EwIIyY.png)
Why don't you just lie down and bleed :)
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ugh, snip the picture out, the thread is taking too long to load. Also wtf do you mean by nigerians dont
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http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_holy_yektonisa (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_holy_yektonisa)
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No, the skirtist troops would be coming from Uptown, New Jersey.
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@fiahpost
rongthred.
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Tabby cat attack, KOL!
"Disappearnce"
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Do I win, or do I win? ;D
(Also, I lol'd at Katropsis' motto)
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Kol... Efficiency is good... Not always the best way, probably. But not always the worst either? :P
And who is Mojang? o_o
*Kols in skirt at Darvincia's motto*
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Pffft give me an example of efficiency when it's bad
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Hrm, kewl. I played Nationstates a while back, before it went through a whole bunch of upgrades.
I'll join up shortly, whats the region or continent that you guys are in so I can join into that?
Allright, I've set up the state, and am already getting bombarded by region join requests. http://www.nationstates.net/nation=kaeshar (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=kaeshar)
Since most of you are in the United Pacific States, I joined that region.
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Most of us play in
http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_united_pacific_states (http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_united_pacific_states)
I play in
http://www.nationstates.net/region=communist_international_league (http://www.nationstates.net/region=communist_international_league)
And the bronies probably have some nations in
http://www.nationstates.net/region=equestria (http://www.nationstates.net/region=equestria)
too.
Pffft give me an example of efficiency when it's bad
Depends on what it is which should be done efficiently.
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wtf
Tabby cat attack? lol, must be some huge cats.
@Bla: I figured that out already and joined into the United Pacific States.
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Question, how do you get or see all those reports shown in the screehshots up there?
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Question, how do you get or see all those reports shown in the screehshots up there?
I mean the ones in reply 159-162 and maybe 163, the ones like defense report, weather, lifespan, nudity, industry report, etc.
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Oh I see, heh.
Who the heck is Ethanthova? They have 4 billion people, makes the rest of us look puny.....
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Serves me for not really reading the thread.
How long has that one been around?
Maybe that can be a source of immigration to my nation, lol :)
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population growth is an average of 5-8 million per day i believe
so 4 billion / 6.5 million
a bit more than 1 and a half years
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http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=praetiam+aeridani+starrie+peoria+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+darvincia+bielosia+ethanthova+spheron_rilmu+lumein+vatallus+seraphia+distortialis+blaist_blaland+kaeshar?censusid=1 (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=praetiam+aeridani+starrie+peoria+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+darvincia+bielosia+ethanthova+spheron_rilmu+lumein+vatallus+seraphia+distortialis+blaist_blaland+kaeshar?censusid=1)
most of my nations and bla and you included
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Barring population explosion and other factors I guess, anyways, cool.
Also, mine has the highest pizza delivery industry. I guess things just haven't quite gotten started since the Empire of Kaeshar moved almost immediately after creation.
My guys also love fishing, cool.
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I don't believe there is a way to population explosion
also someone whos, know html figure out how to add more nations to the chart.
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I thought there were maybe events that influence population growth.
Ethanovia looks like a peaceful paradise of an utopia, although with portions ruled with an iron fist....
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I don't believe there is a way to population explosion
also someone whos, know html figure out how to add more nations to the chart.
Uh... there is an add nation option at the bottom. I'm only doing the primary nations of anyone.
yeah there is a limit.
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"1 day 11 hours ago: Following new legislation in Solea and Rift Auspikitan, the words 'private' and 'enterprise' must never appear in the same sentence."
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Btw, I'm the only one with negative corruption! Kolkolkol!
And I'm leading in godlessness too, with 40 Dawkins! ;D
And I have the most nudity if we exclude Mudkipz's nations where it is compulsory... Wut.
And the least recreational drug useage. ;D
Ethantova has significantly negative stupidity. :o
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74 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Lyintaria, poets and writers are regularly rounded up and shot for entertainment.
13 hours ago: Following new legislation in Lyintaria, popular websites like NationStates are blocked for "national security".
32 minutes ago: Following new legislation in New Dirtville, citizens wishing to be parents must undertake a series of gruelling tests to evaluate their capabilities.
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So I refused to become one with capitalism, and... Oh kol.
Maybe I should just leave this "game". #Orwhateveryoucallsomethingwhereyouhavetoguesswhatthemakerthinksyoushoulddotowin
Whatever.
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Mine never was, but now I got an issue with an option to introduce capitalism. I refused, and somehow not changing anything suddenly imploded my economy in a matter of seconds. Kol.
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The malicious computer virus "DEAT.exe" is infecting nearly all the computers in Darvincia and the people are crying out for the government to do something about it.
"It's those horrible kids. Hacking in where they don't belong. You've got to give us more funding to put a stop to it," says Darvincia Federal Police Chief Faith Nagasawa. "Like with cars- ban kids from using computers until they pass a test and get a license!"
CEO Roxanne Jefferson of CyberMirage Labs has a different idea. "Let us release SAL9000, our new AI, into the Darvincia Network. It'll put a stop to this virus. Nevermind that it's still only an untested beta!"
"Yeah, wonderful! Fix a virus by releasing an AI that will likely turn on its creators? Are you people trying to get us all killed?!" Decries infamous technophobe Cooper de Jong, "What do we need computers for anyway? They will only bring us trouble and disaster! Personal computers ought to be banned!"
...What is this I don't even.
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Go for the second one, or just dismiss. :)
Not too much happening with the Empire of Kaeshar atm, I did get an issue involving kids and casinos and gambling.
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Kol, it looks like the "clean prostitution act" from WA got mine and Atomic's imploded economies up to 14 and 11...
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As our region has been featured on the world page, we have received requests from other regions for embassies.
Should we accept?
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*shrug* I don't see a problem with it.
Since all the main ones are in the WA, maybe I should join up in that....
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Kol, it looks like the "clean prostitution act" from WA got mine and Atomic's imploded economies up to 14 and 11...
Lame.
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I wonder what's making my economy implode slightly because the instant I joined WA, it dropped my economy to weak status.
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A recent poll has revealed high levels of dissatisfaction among the populace about tax rates.
The Debate
"Do you know how much of my year's work goes to the government?" demanded angry worker Larry Wong. "Too much! Government spending has gotten way out of control. It needs big cuts in welfare, health, and education. But leave those subsidies to business alone. We need them to create jobs."
"It's not the AMOUNT of tax, it's where the burden falls," says student activist Pip Dimitrov. "And at the moment, far too much of the burden is falling on the poor. People on high incomes still have more money than people on low incomes. I don't think I need to say anything more than that."
"I don't object to the amount of tax, I object to where it's being spent," says social reformer Dave Clinton. "I'd like to see everyone have a choice as to where their Fossilias go every time they fill out a tax return. Everyone would feel a lot better about opening their wallets if they had a say as to where the money went. I think you'd see a lot more public money going to education and a lot less to business."
Woo!, struggle of the 99%!
Guess which one I went for. :) Although all three could apply for the state of the US economy and debt...
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The 3rd one?
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Nope, second one. The country description says that the government is already focused on education anyways.
Haven't gotten any science/space related stuff yet, which I'll be going for myself. I'm going to try and get the Kaeshar Empire heavily into science.
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The Armed Republic of New Pegasopolis
Corrupt Dictatorship. 93 million citizens. Devotion to social welfare.
... uh what? Is it just me or does that not sound very corrupt?
The Empire of Solea and Rift Auspikitan
Democratic Socialists. 96 million citizens. Keen interest in outer space.
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its just you, all pegasusses are corrupt, bring in the unipolize!
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Empire of Kaeshar
Democratic Socialists. 8 million citizens. Notable for its absence of drug laws.
However that's just from the fact that I legalized marjuana in the initial setup. Haven't had a chance to diverstify much yet.
Hey Bla, where did you get the list on reply 32 back on page 2? I've already found the chart (although the NSwiki seems to be down atm), but I have no idea where the list came from.
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Hey Bla, where did you get the list on reply 32 back on page 2? I've already found the chart (although the NSwiki seems to be down atm), but I have no idea where the list came from.
Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NationStates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NationStates)
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Hey Bla, where did you get the list on reply 32 back on page 2? I've already found the chart (although the NSwiki seems to be down atm), but I have no idea where the list came from.
Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NationStates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NationStates)
I mean the listing of left and right groups, or did you make those up?
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48 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Kaeshar, high-income earners pay a 100% tax rate. Now the economy has a 'fragile' status.
Dangit, I need to stop tanking the economy..... and thats not really what I meant....
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1 day 1 hour ago: Following new legislation in Starrie, citizens who become homeless are immediately executed.
Kol.
Also,
The Issue
After a recent election instated a small dog as member of parliament, the fringe group "Brains for Ballots" has demanded for the government to tighten voting restrictions.
The Debate
1: "The ignorant have taken over Blaist Blaland," yells Akira Obama, from atop a soap box podium. "It is time that the intelligent retake the polls! Mr. 'Scruffy' is a disgrace to democracy and should be taken out of office instantly! I propose we issue mandatory I.Q. tests for every voting citizen and if they are found to have below average reasoning ability - namely lacking the foresight to see that electing an inanimate object to office will cause disaster - then they shall be excused from the responsibility of voting."
2: "Umm... huh?" inquires village idiot, Tobias Longfellow. "I voted? When? Oh, yeah. Please don't make me not vote. The ballots are really tasty, and where else would I get my fibre? Everyone should have the right to vote, no matter what their favourite greenhouse is! Then we can all get the government to do what we want! First thing I think we should do is, uh, ban fruit? I hate fruit."
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Bla, while your economy is crumbling, mine is alive and well. And the nation is socialist.
And at the beginning, it just went up and up and up (and the nation was socialist at this point).
Then, capitalism struck the nation. It still went up.
Then I switched back to socialism. It's still going up.
You apparently fail at this game with the economic part of it.
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I'm trying to get it started up, although when I joined the WA, something made my economy tank a bit.
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Bla, while your economy is crumbling, mine is alive and well. And the nation is socialist.
And at the beginning, it just went up and up and up (and the nation was socialist at this point).
Then, capitalism struck the nation. It still went up.
Then I switched back to socialism. It's still going up.
You apparently fail at this game with the economic part of it.
Socialism requires that the means of production are owned by the people and run cooperatively. Have you banned capitalism in your nation?
I'm not sure it's socialist by definition, seeing as the private sector makes up almost half your economy. The game puts nations into categories based on some very arbitrary measurements of how much "freedom" (according to the game) there is in the economy, people's personal lives and in the political sphere.
Anyway, "failing" in the game only means going against what the developers think make up a good nation. There are some socialist nations with a good economy for sure in the game, but in the end... It's a guess game which no-one can truly become good at (only the developers who programmed the effects of the different policies into the game, kol).
You saw how legalizing prostitution internationally got mine and Atomic's economies up from imploded to 14 and 11? It makes no sense.
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Happier workers maybe? Still, doesn't really make sense.
Anyways, question on the Nation Analysis. In the employment category, the higher the negative number, the worse unemployment is, right? The way the data is set up for that graph makes it a bit unclear. Or at least it's just not explained very well.
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I agree, but yes, so far I've assumed negative means more unemployment.
Actually there's not a shred of anything which makes the nations possible to compare to reality. Funny as most of their units are, they're useless. My economy is some number between 0 and 100, and is called "imploded", "fair", "good", "frightening", whatever... What does that mean IRL? It can impossibly have anything to do with GDP the way it suddenly jumps up or down dramatically all the time.
And it seems to jump either up or down when you implement a policy, ignoring any sort of long term effects, like education, which would be expensive immediately, but have most important effects in the long term, when those who were sent to the schools prisons actually get to work be enslaved. (is that how you wanted it, Dartomic?)
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when those who were sent to the schools prisons actually get to work be enslaved. (is that how you wanted it, Dartomic?)
wtf bla
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It seems like it's actually called "Employment" (in the title), I'm pretty sure the higher, the more employment you have. The unit also seems to indicate that.
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Nicholas Condor, a prominent Bigtopian activist and soapbox orator, caused quite a stir last week when he publicly called for the complete extermination of the people of Spheron Rilmu, accusing fellow citizens of being 'sub-human', 'immoral', and 'really ugly too'. Citizens Against Intolerance, a pressure group aiming to reduce social inequality, has demanded that the government put more resources into combating hate speech. Coincidentally, another society, also called Citizens Against Intolerance, has stood up for Mr Condor, claiming that inhibiting his speeches would be a violation of his right to free speech.
The Debate
"I can't believe we're even debating this," says Maria Trax, who was present at the infamous speech. "Doesn't it worry you that a man, who would obviously be happier if we all died horrible, painful deaths, is allowed to walk around in public? Let him continue and he'll cause a riot! Free speech is supposed to protect people! But talking about genocide and killing, well... that doesn't help anyone. It breaks society. It drives us apart. Hate speech is a very serious crime, Leader. You can't just ignore it."
"Words by themselves can't hurt anyone," counters Faith Tan, a free speech advocate. "We don't need to be 'protected' from hearing different opinions for goodness' sake! Oh, what a boring place the world would be if we all had the same thoughts! You can't punish people for disagreeing with you! That's crazy! I hate my mother-in-law, but if I told her so and she then tried to stab me with a kitchen knife then the problem is obviously hers - not mine."
"I agree to an extent," ventures Hack Rifkin, your Minister of Domestic Security. "But insulting one person is not the same as insulting an entire social grouping. The wrong word in the wrong place and you WILL have violence on the streets: that's the reality we live in, whether you like it or not. If we want to make any real difference then we need to nudge cultural values in the right direction with government awareness programmes and the like. Educate the masses! Laying down a reactionary law will just fuel resentment in the long run."
Sorry people who are debating this, but hate speech is protected by the freedom of speech. If I were to punish people for hate speech, it's no longer free anymore.
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"It's not our war? It's not our war?" cries (in)famous New Pegasopolis-born fascist Alexander Goethe. "Well maybe it's time it became our war! New Pegasopolis should take a more active, and by 'active' I mean 'hostile', role in international politics! This ethnic squabbling will be over when the war is over, and WE can end that war and purge the impure! To glory, pegasi!! Sieg New Pegasopolis!"
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"Creeper hunting is a cruel and horrible 'sport' for the wealthy," says Calvin Love of the 'Protect Anything Cute and Furry Society'. "How can you possibly justify it? Oh, they witter on about 'tradition' and 'pest control' and other such nonsense, but really we all know it's because these sadists love to torture poor, innocent animals! Hunting must be banned!"
wat
"I'm firmly against the slaughter of dumb animals," says Anne-Marie Forever, while feeding an infant creeper with a milk bottle. "It would be best if the animals didn't die, and hunters could still do what they love to do - how about instead of shooting them or sending vicious canines after them, the hunter runs up to his quarry and gives it a symbolic 'tap' with his hand? Now isn't that much nicer for everyone?"
wat #2
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The popular daily cartoon strip "Barry the pony" has always been highly critical of the political system within New Dirtville, but in recent weeks the cartoon has depicted the main characters throwing melted cheese at unpopular politicians. Inspired by this, protestors armed with fondue sets stormed a government building, cheesing off several government officials.
lul
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LOL!
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7 hours ago: New Pegasopolis was reclassified from "Corrupt Dictatorship" to "Psychotic Dictatorship".
Fail, now I'm the only one of the three that's psychotic.
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I wonder why......
"It's not our war? It's not our war?" cries (in)famous New Pegasopolis-born fascist Alexander Goethe. "Well maybe it's time it became our war! New Pegasopolis should take a more active, and by 'active' I mean 'hostile', role in international politics! This ethnic squabbling will be over when the war is over, and WE can end that war and purge the impure! To glory, pegasi!! Sieg New Pegasopolis!"
What did you expect? :P
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The Issue
An old supporter of yours has recently passed on, leaving a quite sizeable plot of land to you in his will - but only under a rather unusual condition: that the site be developed into a colosseum for hosting gladiatorial fights and other bloody spectacles.
The Debate
1: "Yes, yes!" cries Colin Laine, waving a wooden sword enthusiastically. "You've gotta do this, man! Gladiator fights are like the ultimate in spectator sports! And it doesn't just have to be people! We could pit man against African Grey Parrot! Blade against claw! Nothing to their names but their wits and their stamina! You'd have to pay people a lot to risk their lives doing this but I bet you'd earn a whole lot more from merchandise and wagers and stuff!"
2: "That's just sick," says Finlay Parrot, president of the Kill Violence Now Association. "I don't believe you'd find anyone willing to watch actual people tearing each other apart. It's savage and horrible! It's even worse than boxing! Violent sports should be outlawed for the sake of this country's moral integrity. I'm sorry, I've got to go - I'm ashamed you're even considering this."
3: "Actually, we could use this to our advantage," whispers Chief of Police, Thomas King. "Why not just force convicted criminals to fight for the amusement of the public? They'll be paying for their crimes, contributing to society, and totally freeing us of having to build jails to throw their useless hides in!"
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What did you expect? :P
Well I'm sorry! New Unicornia was Psychotic before!
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The Issue
A particularly bad spate of bombings, hijackings and snake attacks aboard airline flights has crippled the air travel industry in Bongatar. The government has convened to discuss possible ways of improving airport security.
The Debate
"It's a no-brainer," says Mia Pushkin, frisking you as you enter the meeting. "Put police officers on every flight, armed and ready to deal with those blasted sky pirates! It's deterrence and protection wrapped up in one. If anyone so much as says the word 'bomb' they'd better watch out!"
"You want to put people with GUNS on aeroplanes?!" asks Falala Woolf, a security guard at Colin Steele International Airport. "And at the taxpayers' expense to boot? For the love of Violet, keep the police out of this! Airport security should remain in private hands! Think realistically for a moment: government priorities change all the time but companies are in it for profit. Bombings are BAD for business! We don't LET them happen! So just... butt out will you? I'm not losing my job to a flatfoot!"
"We don't need no copper protectin' us! We can look after our own hides!" laughs Tobias Wong, president of the Bongatar City Rifle and Revolver Association. "Air flight passengers should be allowed to carry concealed weapons. If one of them terrorists thinks he's gonna walk all over Bongatar like he owns the place then he's got another thing coming, ha!"
"I only wanted to tour The North Pacific for a few w-weeks," wails Jennifer Falopian, recovering from a particularly vigorous strip search. "I have a right not to be probed and prodded at the whim of some wand-waving monkey with a high school education! For a whole HOUR I might add! They treat us like cattle! In the name of DECENCY, I request, nay DEMAND an end to the disgrace that is airport security! I mean, really, it's like they don't trust me or something!"
"Let's just ban all planes!" shouts Lara Spirit, prodding you angrily in the chest. "Bombings and terrorist attacks aren't the only problems these things cause! The aeroplane is one of the worst pollutants mankind has ever created! They're loud, they're ugly, and they burn fuel like there's no tomorrow! There are more environment-friendly ways to travel than by plane even if they are slower! Much slower. But cleaner!"
Hmmm, which seems to be the best?
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no kill them all
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"Can't trust the government to do anything right," scolds economic analyst William Spirit, glancing up from a worn copy of The Fountainhead. ''We've given it a fair chance, it's failed, and now the private sector will have to swoop in to fix it. If you privatize the legislature, I can assure you it'll be humming efficiently and in the black by this time next year!''
(Solea and Rift Auspikitan decision)
... no. You did not just say that.
"The affirmative action programs aren't necessary at all," rejoins conservative speaker and hair care product salesman Freddy Pegasi. "If you really want to treat everyone equally, as you claim, how can you support special treatment for a few so-called minority groups? Besides, it would cost even more money to enforce."
(New Pegasopolis decision)
What... ? How?!?!
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91 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Kaeshar, the mining industry is making inroads into environmentally sensitive areas.
I should note that this is mining for uranium :) Although there aren't any specific details about the mining industry in the game, like what ores and all.
And no my nuclear program is peaceful ;)
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And no my nuclear program is peaceful ;)
We can quickly change that by placing 500 hydrogen stealth bombers on your borders, I think! >:D
Also, kol.
The Issue
Citizens staged a mass protest against 'monolithic' tax rates after the government recently instituted the 'Anything That's Purple' tax.
The Debate
1: "The tax situation in Blaist Blaland is ridiculous," says Jack Blanaxon at the protest. "The taxes keep getting piled on and yet - I haste to add - the government doesn't seem to realise that they already have practically all our money! We've been reduced to bartering for goodness sake! I haven't seen a decent wad of Property Note in years! It's bad for Blaist Blaland, but more importantly, it's bad for business. We must take huge cuts out of the government budget. Even if it does mean less education, healthcare, and whatnot."
2: "You can't!" cries Lars Mombota, the National Treasurer. "They don't seem to realise that if we cut taxes, it will drastically underfund our public services! All our environmental work, our education system, our healthcare system - all will go kaput! Blaist Blaland depends on these taxes, we need the money! Don't let the people fritter it away on luxuries, 'cos they'll soon be complaining about there not being enough policemen on the beat. We'll tax the shirts off their backs and they'll be damn well happy about it!"
WHAT?! Someone saw a PROPERTY NOTE?!?! Where?! FIND AND BURN IT!!! >:D
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And no my nuclear program is peaceful ;)
We can quickly change that by placing 500 hydrogen stealth bombers on your borders, I think! >:D
Yea it was a side joke (hence the smiley) and a reference to Iran. Haven't had any issues that referenced nuclear stuff in any way, besides the mining one which referenced a large uranium deposit.
Economy needs to get going anyway....
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You want to be kapitalist?
The kommunist and soshalist nashions have lower economy.
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You have had time to develop your industries, I haven't yet, which is the logic I'm going for.
Not really sure whether I want to be capitalist, socialist, communist, or what yet.
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"This is a very important step to securing the rights and lives of our families and controlling the government," urges noted gun ownership proponent Zeke Obama. "Not only would it significantly decrease crime, but it would also effectively stop government tyranny in its tracks. Of course, this also means that every wacko and their cousin will have a gun, but don't worry, you'll have a gun to defend yourself from them, so it will all work out."
"What have those poor, defenceless animals ever done to us?" asks Akira Cho, owner of the East Mojang AB Creeper Sanctuary. "Kidnapping these helpless creatures from their habitat simply to stick probes and needles in them is just barbaric! How would you like it if someone caged you in a lab and conducted tests on you just to find out whether a new product was fit for sale? Experimenting on animals ought to be banned!"
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Quote on the Equestria region board from The Lunar Republic of Karditan:
"I'm in the top 10% of the world, but not the region.
You crazy militarist ponies."
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Kol.
Another brother.
The Issue
State department officials are in an uproar over the leaking of key government cables by the website WikiSpills. The site's owner, under the nom de plume "El Denunciante," is operating from an anonymous location in neighboring Bigtopia, where the government can't reach him. Blaist Blaland's leaders are sharply divided on how to respond.
The Debate
1: "This man has done no wrong!" says Pip Broadside, who also happens to be the head writer of The Blanaxon Times Magazine. "The people have a right to transparency of government. El Denunciante is a hero who has revolutionized my magazine sale-er-Freedom of Speech for this country. No state action must be committed that would infringe upon our right to disclose government information, regardless of the effects on diplomatic relations. Besides, it isn't as though you've got anything to hide…do you?"
2: "El Denunciante is a terrorist and has committed treason," argues reactionary talk radio host Thomas Harishchandra. "The fact is, he has consistently presented an anti-Blaist Blaland agenda, and people like him need to be stopped from propagandizing their filth. What we need is to block this website and any others which threaten the security of this great nation. Like those opposition party blogs that keep popping up! I mean, what use is personal freedom if you don't have security and peace of mind?"
3: "This seems like a lot of needless work, if you ask me," says Bharatendu Property, your brother-in-law, while enjoying a foul-smelling beverage in your office. "Why should the people get to discuss you and your government anyway? Seems to me things would be much easier if you just told them what their opinion was and blocked out all others. After all, who knows what's best for them better than you, am I right? Cheers!"
Btw,
6 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the sound of wooden legs echo throughout Blaist Blaland after the recent introduction of the Foot Tax.
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The Issue
During the last Bongatar Athletics Championship, a massive controversy arose following the revelation that double gold medalist Atlanta Johnson possesses both male and female sexual organs, despite being entirely female in external appearance.
The Debate
"How is this difficult to understand?" questions well-known sports commentator Jamil Yeats. "There are sports and competitions just for men, and there are sports and competitions just for women; we don't let men run in a women's race, so what's the difference here? And if it's too difficult to decide whether the athlete is a man or woman, then we shouldn't let them compete at all! Fair is fair is fair."
"I think I see a solution to all this," says Pete du Pont, your Minister for Solutions, whilst solving the crossword in your morning newspaper. "We should overhaul the entire sport system in Bongatar so that people compete against each other based on skill, not gender. Sure, it might be expensive but it'd be worth it if we want everyone to be happy."
"We can't just stop there!" protests well-known LGBTQQIA activist Johann Tars. "We should completely overhaul Bongatar itself to make it less hostile to those like Ms. Johnson! Schools, hospitals, workplaces – they'll all need to be changed! There should be public toilets catered solely for the intersex too! You can't put a price on equality!"
"You're not actually going to listen to that parasite, I hope?" your bald, heavily tattooed cousin says with a raised eyebrow. "You want to actually give these monsters recognition? Not only are they going to make us the laughing stock of the international community, but they, and other freaks like them, are an insult to our race. What we must do is banish such scum from Bongatar; their lesser blood and DNA are only an impediment to the success and dominance of our race – a master race!"
ohmy
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your bald, heavily tattooed cousin
This says everything. Why are our entire family a bunch of fascists and nazis. :(
Here's another brother:
The Issue
In response to a slow news week, certain highbrow newspapers have stirred up the debate over voluntary vs compulsory voting.
The Debate
1: "Compulsory voting makes about as much sense as having the death penalty for attempted suicide," says civil rights activist Stefanie Mistletoe. "You can't force people to be free! You can only give them the choice. Besides, if all those derelicts who can't be bothered to get off their butts once every few years voted, who would they elect? I shudder to think."
2: "It's not contradictory at all," argues political commentator Prudence Chen. "The fact is, if not everyone votes, the outcome isn't truly representative. Some groups--like elderly gun nuts--vote more often than others. That's why we always end up with such terrible politicians."
3: "This raises an interesting issue," says Hope King, your brother. "And that is: why do we need elections, anyway? Seems to me it would be much simpler if you just decided what was right, and did it. Wouldn't that save everyone a lot of time?"
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The name of the third person is just so ironically funny, lol.
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They freaking... aaaaaaa How... ??!?!?!?!
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They freaking... aaaaaaa How... ??!?!?!?!
???
I'm not sure if the names are random anyways.
Looks like most everybody's economy got knocked down a couple notches when that medical blockade repeal went through. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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8 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Bielosia, citizens simply have to point a weapon at a government official to get what they want.
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Second, awww yeah... Wait... what...
NARU!!!!!!!!! >:(
:P
And then Darv in fifth.
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lmao
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Anybody else having issues with the NS site? The forums over there are okay though.
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I've had some issues with the pages sometimes failing to load today. ^
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It's now down for maintenance.
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4 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, major cities are suffering under water rationing.
Ouch, did you get hit by a drought?
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Yes. :/
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A coalition of tribalists, health experts, and civil rights proponents have recently suggested legalizing cannibalism for consumers of willing would-be meals.
The Debate
"I see absolutely no problem with people digging into each other at dinnertime, so long as everyone is willing," Jamil de Groot, the editor of the monthly magazine 'To Serve Man', quips, "Not only does it solve hunger problems and create jobs, but it also adds variety to Darvincia's sometimes dull palette."
Civil rights leader Konrad Brown came out publicly for moderate pro-cannibalism legislation, commenting, "While it may strike some as a crude, even evil practice, our ancestors have practiced cannibalism for years. If we create a government organization to strictly regulate and grade all human meat prior to its arrival on the market, we can ensure that respect for diversity is maintained while health concerns are also allayed. And instead of killing average people, why not make being turned into snack foods a post-mortem option? Like donating your body to science!"
"You're all absolutely out of your minds!" exclaims Klaus Strange, head of Darvincia's largest health-food manufacturer. "It's immoral, it's unhealthy, and it's disgusting. Not only are these so-called 'dietary rights' activists leading us down a dark path of sin, but right into a marketplace with yet another product that's almost as bad as beef!"
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Yours have? What about mine? lol. Also it changed to Liberal Democratic Socialists.
67 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Kaeshar, citizens recently voted in favour of declaring bubblewrap an 'abomination of nature'
Oh yea, I just noticed that Accidents (which took the place of 'acts of god' I guess and Bungee Jumping appeared in the leading cause of deaths.
Economy is still shitty though.
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The Issue
A coup in a neighbouring country has seen a mercenary force led by retired Blaist Blalandian general Freddy Cohen take charge of the peaceful backwater, purging the opposition, and suppressing freedoms. Despite the new leader making a dubious promise to hold elections, the government in exile is demanding that Blaist Blaland takes action.
The Debate
1: "THIS IS A DISGRACE", bellows Brigadier General Roxanne Nagasawa, scattering plastic soldiers over the floor. "This traitor must be overthrown! Gather together our forces and sweep the tyrant from power. While we're at it, Blaist Blaland could do with some more tanks - you never know when the next coup might be." (kolz)
2: Ali Summers, a junior official, puts down "Diplomacy for Dummies" and pipes up. "The best method of solving problems is talking. Send the new regime a strongly worded letter of protest and encourage them to negotiate. On a similar note, perhaps you could take your spouse out for a meal tonight. You've been spending far too much time sorting out this nation's issues lately."
3: Noted realist and tabloid columnist Al Obama disagrees. "We should give this new regime a chance. After all, they now control a sizeable economy, and they need weapons - we could offer to recognise the new government if they agreed to buy arms from us. Also, I couldn't help but notice some protesters outside your office. We wouldn't want a coup happening here - everyone would feel safer if they were moved on."
4: "I don't see what the problem is", a voice strangely like your own whispers in your ear. Your twin, standing far too close for comfort, continues, "this has given me a great idea - why not just declare yourself supreme leader of Blaist Blaland? After all, the people do love you so very much."
AHHHH more fascist brothers!! Kol.
Also, my economy just imploded after I banned telephone advertising for the third time and banned political parties from receiving private donations and advertising the second or third time. Kol. Oh well, if those are the only things which make up my economy, maybe it doesn't matter that much anyway. :)
Also, oh kol.
And I've almost gotten rid of capitalism. >:D
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Kolwut.
Circus Clowns Cause Chaos!
The Issue
Rather than finding them funny, a recent survey shows that most children are actually afraid of clowns. The public is demanding that you do something to stop these terrifying menaces.
The Debate
"Kill them! Kill them all! Or… you know, just ban them", opines noted sociologist Efthamia Singh. "Better yet, why not ban all circuses from Darvincia! Think about it, they're distracting children from what's important in life; namely, doing well in school, getting a job and contributing to the economy. That's what's important here!"
"Banning clowns is a little extreme, if you ask me", inputs your Minister for Culture, Johann Frederickson. "I think what we need to do is educate children about what clowns actually do. Tell them they aren't scary and that what they do is actually beneficial! After all, happy kids are less likely to go down the path of crime, which means less spending goes to the police and more funds can be diverted to somewhere important – like my Department!"
"It's not always about the kids", mumbles a red-nosed man in the corner. "Think of us clowns! We have to put up with the kids screaming, and shouting and hurling things at us. How would you feel if you were dressed up like a fool and paraded in front of 8 year olds! The Government needs to create a program to treat us clowns for depression – you don't know what it's like, man. You weren't there!"
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Look at the last one, lolz!
I went for the third option though.
The Issue
A top fertility clinic has recently announced a new service allowing parents to create so-called 'designer babies'.
The Debate
"Embryo selection isn't really genetic engineering in the technical sense," explains Dr. Hack Hernandez, owner of the Babies-2-Go Clinic. "It's more like being able to have a dozen abortions per month until you get the foetus you desire. I can't really see what's wrong with parents who can afford it being able to eliminate foetuses with undesirable genetic traits - like stupidity."
"Thou shalt pay for thy sins!" screams Zeke Chandra, waving a crucifix. "This is just meddling with the sanctity of life. If these children are to be born with horrible defects then it's God's will and who are we to question it? This technology must be banned at once!"
"This technology shows promise," muses Thomas Yeats, minister of health. "But we can't trust the private sector with the future of our nation's children. We must place it under strict government regulation, so that we only screen out embryos with serious genetic conditions."
"This has got me thinkin'," says General Hillary Clinton, thumbing through a big folder marked 'X'. "If this technology lets us reduce genetic defects, then couldn't it work the other way? We could create ourselves an army of genetically superior soldiers! With our army of Super Soldiers, no nation would dare stand in our way!"
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Oh kol, I think this is the funniest issue yet.
The Issue
A man by the name of &%*\@# Smith hit the headlines yesterday when he had his first name legally changed to 'John', citing the ridicule and stress he suffered because of his given name. Mr Smith publicly commented afterwards that there should be more restrictions on what parents can name their children.
The Debate
Option 1:
"People do so love to be different," says Insert Name Here, with a heavy sigh. "I don't know what my folks were thinking when they named me. Probably about how 'novel' and 'with it' they were being, but I didn't get a say in it did I? Growing up in my neighbourhood with the first name 'Insert' wasn't fun at all I can tell you! The government should set up a registry of recognised names that are clean, sensible, and non-teasable. Kids deserve better."
Option 2:
"It's none of the government's business what I name my daughter," says Follicle Rainbow Gooseknob, cradling [expletive deleted] in her arms. "Are you going to tell us what to think next? Where to go? Who to love? I don't want some grey-faced bureaucrat deciding what name is appropriate for my child! What kind of country hates personal freedom so much you can't even choose your own name?"
Option 3:
"Names? Names are so inefficient!" Says Five-Oh-Three McGoohan, counting beads. "Who can honestly tell one Tobias Laine from another? That name's so popular now, I met three people at the mall with it just last week! Face it! Names are old-hat! Everyone ought to go by a government-allocated ID number instead, much more practical. Who could make fun of a child named Six-Eight-Four?"
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kol i've gotten that. i picked option 3
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Better solution: Abolish
compulsory jailtime traditional schools.
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Interesting...
Banning drugs makes my civil rights drop by 4, while banning torture makes it increase by 2...
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Naru, mind posting that map of NP, NU, and ND?
The Honorable Mia Future, Minister of Minding Other People's Business
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Kol.
MOOHAHAH OUR EKONOMY HAS DEPLODED. >:D
Let's see how long it lasts. :-[
Also, more kolz.
The Issue
Blaist Blaland's fire protection department has long been criticised for being slow, inefficient, and underfunded. A number of ideas have been proposed on how to deal with the problem.
The Debate
1: "See here, buddy," says Ali Nguyen, putting a friendly arm around your shoulder. "Your country needs fire protection, but you don't want to pay for it yourself. What do you say me and some of the boys here open up a few fire stations of our own and let the custome- citizens pay US instead of YOU paying THEM. It's not like we won't put out the fires if they don't have anything on them, we'll just bill them and their children and their children's children until we get all our money."
2: "Woah, woah, woah!" Says liberal activist, Steffan Song. "I don't want my rescuers to be putting less effort into their jobs because I don't have a credit card or live in a slum. Do you know when you're at your worst, financially? WHEN YOUR HOUSE JUST BURNT DOWN. This is a victimisation of the poor! The government should be in charge of the emergency services and they should treat everyone equally. It's only fair."
3: "Not only that, but we need to prevent fires from happening in the first place," says Freddy Cohen, your Minister of Safety, carefully turning off the wall sockets in your office. "And if that means sending free smoke alarms, fire extinguishers, and informative pamphlets to every household in Blaist Blaland so be it! Damn the expenses, Leader, lives are at stake!"
4: "I think that sounds kinda... socialist," says Gregory Harishchandra with a disgusted grimace. "The government should keep out of this if you ask me. The only reason fires happen is because people are stupid and they know a fire engine will come racing down the street to save them. Take away that safety blanket and I think you'll find they wise up quite quickly! We don't need any tax-consuming fire service! If idiots and their families go up in flames they'll have no one to blame but themselves."
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screams Chastity Glory, head of the nation's most important civil liberties movement, People for the Ethical Treatment of Everything
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mah list of nations
Bielosia - main one, mostly socialist democratic (WA) (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=bielosia)
Lyintaria - militaristic and mainly communist (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=lyintaria)
The Holy Yektonisa - extremist religious nation (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_holy_yektonisa)
New Dirtville - corrupt state for Equestria, one of the New Trio (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=new_dirtville)
Mojang AB - environmentalist nation, but just to troll (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=mojang_ab)
Pyxanovia - extremist communist state, in the Communist International League (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pyxanovia)
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my list of nations
actually instead of listing 30 nations i'll give you my list of regions
http://www.nationstates.net/region=kallisto (http://www.nationstates.net/region=kallisto)
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my list of nations
Solea and Rift Auspikitan - my ideals and thoughts (WA) (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=solea_and_rift_auspikitan)
New Pegasopolis - corrupt militaristic dictatorship experiment ruled by Commander Hurricane, part of the equestrian trio thingy (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=new_pegasopolis)
Several Well-Known Corporations - my arch nemesis nation that I would kill with fire if it existed irl, die-hard capitalist and conservative martyrs (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=several_well-known_corporations)
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looks more like 1 nation
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kol i only have two nations
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REFUGEE'S IN MY COUNTRY!??!?!?!
SHOOT THEM ALL.
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ahh
new factbook entry
i think of it as a regional motto :P
http://www.nationstates.net/region=kallisto (http://www.nationstates.net/region=kallisto)
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What the fu-
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united pacific states mappu, w/ kallisto. still a work in progress :)
(http://i.imgur.com/x7uSS.png)
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kallisto , not kallistro
inb4 was just a typo
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yes, typo.
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inter sting, i might do a population map like nation geographic or whatever tommorow.
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It is done
for now.
EDIT: oop spelt ethanthova wrong >.<
(http://i.imgur.com/vjBYA.png)
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Noice map Naru.
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nar map is narcutist
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I'm the nation that walls in/'protects' the others. :P
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*tickles ethanthove with puppetnations*
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I'm the nation that walls in/'protects' the others. :P
Speaking of that...
crappy map (i was lazy to make it look neat) of the UPS 6 weeks after forming like naru's map (http://i.imgur.com/o9FgG.png)
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You wanted to expand.
TND and Shmupland were fighting over... something, idk...
And Ethanthova is trying to get Starrie to release SKA and Darvincia (which were taken by Starrie in about... 2 hours).
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kolkute
i'm coercively ending autarkyness
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IM NOT LANDLOCKED! YEAH!
Kol, i shall blast a canal through wherever i like!
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kaesar?
*melts stone with skirtyness*
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So i have found this site....
http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/main.aspx (http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/main.aspx)
it's more accurate than nstracker because it actually converts a nation's gdp to USD before adding them up into GRP.... i will investigate further on the accuracy of this
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How come the name of mine is over the ocean or does that mean my country is the blue ocean? :)
Kidding obviously.
Heres mine: http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/nsdossier/main.aspx?nation=Kaeshar (http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/nsdossier/main.aspx?nation=Kaeshar)
Anybody know why a whole bunch of the government fundings are zero? Is it because I haven't gotten any issues that would allocate funds to those?
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possibly. Also you might've turned down issues that would have increased these.
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ok nvm, however messed up nstracker's calculates of gdp are, nsdossier is even worse.
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Starrie gets bored and picks on SKA and Darvincia because they're pacifist, this lasts for five days
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wtf is it....glowing...
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Kolwut.
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Yay Space! :D
The Issue
The recent popularity of a science-fiction TV show has prompted calls for Kaeshar to develop its own space program.
The Debate
"Don't tell me space colonies wouldn't be cool," says excited fifth-grade teacher Emily Rubin, still wearing big Spock ears from his last convention. "Think of how they would galvanize the national population! And there would also be some kind of scientific benefit, probably."
"The project certainly is feasible, but very expensive," says Kaeshar Space Agency Head Hope Strange. "We could make it less of a burden on the taxpayers if we sought funding from private industry -- advertisements on the side of our rockets, selling contracts to the Arms Manufacturing industry, that kind of thing."
"If God had meant Man to fly, he would have given us solid rocket boosters instead of legs," says religious type May Wall. "We should not be looking to the stars, but rather inside our own hearts. That's why we should abandon this so-called space program, and instead make the teaching of religion mandatory in all schools."
I'm going with the first one. :)
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Extinctionists On The Dinner Table? [legislation pending]
kol, named national animal 'extinctionist'
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Emily Rubin, still wearing big Spock ears from his last convention.
Yea I saw that. The issue options usually try to avoid gender identifiers.
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Fail formatting.
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Thought it wouldn't do that, wierd. Anyways, fixed...
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Starrie is losing the Sibling Battles.
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kip nukes.
do nawt agree.
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NOP! I'm not representing your true powers because it would become Aeridani vs Starrie in a day.
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wheee
there's been a typo in the coordinates of several targets but i don't think it matters much :)
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Kol, why are you nuking yourself?
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what do you mean...
i'm the insane patchwork of stuff, right?
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You're the dark blue with ~100 nukes on it as well.
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...fixd
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And then you cause a nuclear winter which kills everyone's nations, including your nation, Starrie.
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you and your silly prograndas, you forgot the updated map!
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Meanwhile, Bla peacefully celebrates a communist party in Communist International League. LET'S DANCE KARL MARX, JOIN US LENIN
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ash-clearing lasers sweep the skies, incinerating ash to make ashy ashy and avert nuclear winter :)
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Capital cities anyone?
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Matty, that's a map after kipzian invasions of SKA and Darvincia and Kaesharian and Bongatarian invasions of Starrie.
EDIT: Here's the basemap.
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Can someone, or if no one will do it, i will, make a seperate topic for this map? It could become a 'diplomacy thead' much like International Incidents on the NS Forums? I like this and i don't want it to be buried up in people posting issues (which i honestly don't see the point to, i've seen every single issue ever posted on this thread i think :P).
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Double post, w/e.
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Ah, the thread will based off of this map because Naru is best mapper. You can make another thread for your map of course. Or put it here. I don't care.
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http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,6014.0.html (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,6014.0.html)
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Someone should make a map based on level of blaism. kolkolkol
Ah, the thread will based off of this map because Naru is best mapper. You can make another thread for your map of course. Or put it here. I don't care.
A greed.
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yes, yes i did :)
what a cute
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a poo? inb4 dancensored
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WHAT, imaginary friends have declared war on my nation! AHHHHH
The cake is a pie.
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In a bid to provide a new revenue stream for Caiklonia's Beef-Based Agriculture industry, it has been suggested that Hurricanes could be added to the menu.
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8 hours ago: Following new legislation in Solea and Rift Auspikitan, jails have become colloquially known as 'vampire houses'.
What was the issue that led to this one?
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I got that one too. :P It's about making blood donation mandatory for people in jails. :P
Also... o_O (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=ridiculously_hairy_men)
“Ridiculously hairy workers of the world unite!”
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Bla, while your economy is crumbling, mine is alive and well. And the nation is socialist.
And at the beginning, it just went up and up and up (and the nation was socialist at this point).
Then, capitalism struck the nation. It still went up.
Then I switched back to socialism. It's still going up.
You apparently fail at this game with the economic part of it.
You know how when you say something like "I haven't been shot yet!" in a game, and you get shot, or you say "my nation is doing well" and you get problems? I did just that, and look, my nation's economy is falling.
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Ohkol my ekonomy... It's "reasonable" now.
And I got rid of capitalism again after two days where it reached 1% and then 3%. :P
However, somehow my income equality dropped from 190 to 177. :/
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http://tinyurl.com/nuclearexplosion (http://tinyurl.com/nuclearexplosion)
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http://tinyurl.com/nuclearexplosion (http://tinyurl.com/nuclearexplosion)
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And I got rid of capitalism
Me too! :D
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kolkolkol lowest
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=starrie+ethanthova+bielosia+darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+lyintaria?censusid=33 (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=starrie+ethanthova+bielosia+darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+lyintaria?censusid=33)
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Seraphia is ranked 31st in Kallisto and 88,043rd in the world for Most Popular Tourist Destinations, with -112.75 Net Tourists per hour.
KEKEKEKEK, that outcompetes all other nations from lovins/him/tups/kallis
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What have I done.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_land_of_the_red_rainbow (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_land_of_the_red_rainbow)
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As a region, Kallisto is ranked 304th in the world for Fastest-Growing Economies.
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HOLYKOL
my nation has reached frightening economy
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=seraphia (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=seraphia)
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Yay, capitol city issue! :)
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kol a capital issue..
cwutididthar
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I have been waiting for this. >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Natalia du Pont, TO GULAG
Btw, Blaist Blaland just left-win utopia'd.
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kolkolkol shoot them all
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The Issue
Several musicians have recently produced songs in which "Violet" sings silly and offensive things, causing outcries of horror from the Order of Violet.
The Debate
"THIS IS BLASPHEMY!" shouts May Christensen, Grand High Poobah of the Order of Violet. "Our holy scriptures specifically forbid any portrayal of our prophet's most holy voice. We cannot permit people to slander and mock our prophet and insult all of us. These people are simply doing this to see if we are extremists. Death to the blasphemers!"
Speaking anonymously and from hiding, one of the musicians says, "It was just meant to be a joke! I never thought that they'd take it so seriously. I just wanted to give them a little ribbing like I do the other major religions of Pastafarianism and Frisbeetarianism." Hope Jamieson glances over their shoulder to see if anyone is watching, "Please don't try to figure out who I am. I'm scared for my safety. The government should protect my freedom to insult whomever I want. Freedom of speech should hold nothing sacred, not even God."
"Freedom of speech is important, but so is freedom of religion. Surely we can strike some sort of balance?" says Rochelle Barry, chief spokesperson for the HSOC (the Helvontion Society of Compromisers). "Freedom of speech comes with a responsibility. People must avoid anything that insults another's religion, and if they aren't willing to do it themselves, the government must enforce it."
"His Holiness, the Grand High Poobah of Violet, has the right idea, but the wrong religion," says Ella Rubin, the Prelate of Primary Public Relations for the fanatical organization Helvontion's Concerned Citizens for Our God. "This nation needs an official religion, and not support the Godless heathens who worship the idolotrous Violet. Appoint me as your spiritual adviser an I'll ensure that all people worship God in the correct way."
"They've got it all wrong. Freedom of speech isn't the problem, religion is!" shouts Sophie Suzuki, at a local AA (Atheists Anonymous) meeting. "If religion were outlawed, this problem would solve itself. Just send them in for medical treatment. After all, anyone who believes in some big invisible dude who can do anything is clearly nuts."
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Huh
The Socialist Union of Blaist Blaland (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=blaist_blaland)
“For Science and Socialism!”
Category: Left-wing Utopia
The Socialist Republic of Ananor (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=ananor)
“For people, for science, for progress”
Category: Left-wing Utopia
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Sames On The Dinner Table?
The Issue
In a bid to provide a new revenue stream for Vikkada's Beef-Based Agriculture industry, it has been suggested that sames could be added to the menu.
The Debate
"The fact is, the same population is out of control," says Beef-Based Agriculture spokesperson Jazz Animal. "We have to do something about them anyway, so why not market them as tasty snacks? We could have same kebabs, same pies, same-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless! Let's not pass up this golden opportunity to provide a feast, if you will, for our economy."
"I agree that something needs to be done about same over-population," says random passer-by Naki Zhu, "but eating them? That's kind of gross. Let's just shoot the ones we have to and shovel their bodies into ditches like normal."
"I am shocked and appalled!" declared SPCA President Kathleen Spirit. "If anyone needs to be culled, it's us humans. The sames were here first, remember? We need to take this as a sign to get our industry--agriculture in particular--to back off. The same is part of what makes Vikkada a great nation!"
>The fact is, the same population is out of control
>We could have same kebabs, same pies, same-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless!
>I agree that something needs to be done about same over-population
>The sames were here first, remember?
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This true to get more population?
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Population is mainly a showing of how long your nation has been created. It
grows whether or not you login.
Population growth:
5 million <-- starting population
6 million
7 million
8 million
http://www.gamefaqs.com/webonly/917377-nationstates/faqs/34909 (http://www.gamefaqs.com/webonly/917377-nationstates/faqs/34909)
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kol avg poplation gworth is 5m/day
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:P
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1 minute ago: Naussauk (213) traded 213 shares to Starrie (7,296).
1 minute ago: Itatun (195) traded 195 shares to Starrie (7,101).
2 minutes ago: Cathaveak (195) traded 195 shares to Starrie (6,906).
3 minutes ago: Kosak (1) traded 1 share to Starrie (6,905).
3 minutes ago: Kosak (203) traded 202 shares to Starrie (6,703).
4 minutes ago: Kloud-9 (221) traded 221 shares to Starrie (6,482).
6 minutes ago: Caiklonia (208) traded 208 shares to Starrie (6,274).
7 minutes ago: Ibaciak (206) traded 206 shares to Starrie (6,068).
7 minutes ago: Nwadia (216) traded 216 shares to Starrie (5,852).
8 minutes ago: Insaneum (205) traded 205 shares to Starrie (5,647).
8 minutes ago: Iapkiar (244) traded 244 shares to Starrie (5,403).
10 minutes ago: Acturion (198) traded 198 shares to Starrie (5,205).
11 minutes ago: Utadion (200) traded 200 shares to Starrie (5,005).
13 minutes ago: Calamitia (247) traded 247 shares to Starrie (4,758).
16 minutes ago: Xanacan (201) traded 201 shares to Starrie (4,557).
16 minutes ago: Helvontion (204) traded 204 shares to Starrie (4,353).
17 minutes ago: Cyperion (198) traded 198 shares to Starrie (4,155).
17 minutes ago: Dalenoi (199) traded 199 shares to Starrie (3,956).
17 minutes ago: Estiar (195) traded 195 shares to Starrie (3,761).
19 minutes ago: Fenomenom (213) traded 213 shares to Starrie (3,548).
20 minutes ago: Blissea (216) traded 216 shares to Starrie (3,332).
22 minutes ago: Kosolea (215) traded 215 shares to Starrie (3,117).
24 minutes ago: Vatallus (392) traded 392 shares to Starrie (2,725).
24 minutes ago: Praetiam (329) traded 329 shares to Starrie (2,396).
24 minutes ago: Katropsis (331) traded 331 shares to Starrie (2,065).
26 minutes ago: Distortialis (393) traded 393 shares to Starrie (1,672).
52 minutes ago: Celestial Conception (397) traded 397 shares to Starrie (1,275).
53 minutes ago: Lumein (60) traded 60 shares to Starrie (1,215).
53 minutes ago: Lumein (399) traded 339 shares to Starrie (876).
53 minutes ago: Seraphia (406) traded 406 shares to Starrie (470).
kekeke over 7500 shares
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wtf shares
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it's an april fools thing, but still, cool
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no its april 1st
and besides, haven't you noticed the offer ends at midnight april 1st?
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depends on timezones, bud
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gif me awl yur shairs
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Last time I checked, people lived in Europe too. Even Asia possibly.
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It is!
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Methinks you got scammed.
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KOLKOLKOL TOURISM WHAT IS THIS? LINE THEM UP AND SELL THEM AS SLAVES
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I'm not extreme in anything? Lame. :|
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So I maded a map of Blaist Blaland. Wif subdivisions.
Blanaxon is the small one in the center of the small ones on the east coast of the mainland.
Idk how it borders with other land, but I imagine the (north)western part to border land, and the rest to border water.
Btw, to those who don't know, you can write Factbook entries for your nations now. You can do it by typing
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=blaist_blaland/detail=factbook/ (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=blaist_blaland/detail=factbook/)
(and replace blaist_blaland with your nation)
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Wif subdivisions.
AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa!!!
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Kolwat?
Also kol, I have an 91% tax rate and am top 5% in the world, yet I'm number 29 out of 137 nations in CIL.
Also, kolwut'd at the "Top x most conservative" symbol:
(http://www.nationstates.net/images/trophies/conservative5w.png)
Eww.
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bla can you make subsub divisions? my life would be complete if you did
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snip
......what is this fractal i'm seeing
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HEY DARVINCE http://www.nationstates.net/nation=darvincia/detail=factbook/id=1351 (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=darvincia/detail=factbook/id=1351)
YOU COPIED MAI REGION NAIM , I SAW WAT YOU DID THERE
:)
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That's why it borders Starrie.
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are they your mommies
my presidents are mommies
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eww firefox
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wheeeeeee
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No Fiha, I only touch you in the future.
inb4 fiharaig
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i think first looks better...
it's personal opiums
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Then you don't have a sense of proper terran colors.
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terran ish nawt mai style.
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The Issue
After several reports of pet Homophobes violently attacking, injuring, and even killing citizens, there has been growing pressure from public safety activists for the government to take action.
The Debate
"These creatures are a danger to the public and must be destroyed!" says Stephanie Sanchez, representative of the Public Institution for Social Safety, Equality, and Direction. "I was attacked by one just on the way here and I nearly lost my life! They're a public menace. We must shoot and burn them!"
"Why punish the poor things?" asks animal-lover Heather Anderson, covered in scars from previous encounters with Homophobes. "All they need is good hands to care and rehabilitate them. We need a government education programme to tame them and turn them into loveable pets. The one I'm holding right now shows that it can be done. They are all good, kind creatures deep d- argh!"
"I agree that we shouldn't kill them," says Falala Winters, a famous lawyer. "But I don't think the owner should get away with breaking the law! This is clearly a case of 'intent to grievously harm' if I ever saw it. All citizens should be held accountable of their pet's actions as if they had done the act themselves. It's the only way to be fair - after all, they're just dumb animals."
"Who cares!?" screams Gretel Johnson as he sends out his pirate radio station broadcast. "Just repeal any laws preventing us from shooting the things when they attack and we'll be able to save ourselves without this stupid, authoritarian, overbearing government and legal system wasting our tax money!"
Hahahahahahaha... BURN!!! BURN!!! BURN!!! ;D
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kolurinsane
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Malaria, an infectious and often deadly disease spread by mosquitoes, is ravaging cities and other settlements near Katropsis's swamps and wetlands.
The Debate
"Malaria is a highly dangerous disease with no cure," says Dr Marleen Usman, one of the world's leading epidemiologists. "If we're going to control it then we've got to put money into researching a vaccine and new antimalarial drugs. We should also set out to provide prevention and awareness programmes, the whole caboodle. With a targeted and well-financed approach we can make an attempt to eradicate malaria from the face of Katropsis! But we're going to need Darvinces. Lots of them."
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wot
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The income equality of people in Blaist Blaland equals the income equality of people in the Land of the Red Rainbow. EQUALCEPTION
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No. I am both. (http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego,_and_super-ego)
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today marks the 100th day since starrie was founded and our population is....548 million
kol.
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Congratulations. :P
I guess the only way to achieve that population... Is KROP FARMS >:D
RECOGNIZING THAT Animals, as living beings and occupants of the lands and homes of the member nations of the World Assembly offer service and companionship to inhabitants of those nations,
AND RECOGNIZING THAT cruel mistreatment of said animals is an offense to moral decency,
BE IT RESOLVED THAT
(1) All owners, overseers and caretakers of domesticated animals and livestock shall:
a) Provide medical care for the treatment of injury or illness and reduction of pain resulting from said ailments to a level deemed adequate by licensed animal medical personnel.
b) Provide clean food and water for said animals in amounts and of types adequate to maintain the health of the animal.
c) Provide said animals with a clean and comfortable living environment to a degree that a reasonable person would deem it adequate.
d) Kill and slaughter said livestock in a manner that limits the pain and suffering of said livestock.
(4) Mistreatment of domesticated animals, livestock and wild animals by means of abuse, torture, training for sport fighting and the act of sport fighting is expressly prohibited.
VIOLATION of this resolution shall incur a suitable punishment based on the severity of the offense and may include fines, imprisonment, forfeiture of said animals and prohibition from owning animals in the future.
EXCLUSIONS: The following categories of animals and actions by humans are expressly excluded from this resolution:
(i) Animals used for any religious purposes are expressly excluded from this resolution.
(ii) Animals commonly known to be pests are specifically excluded, as are all widely accepted methods of eradication of said pests.
(iii) Wild Animals commonly hunted for sport, food or fur are excluded as is the act of hunting said wild animals.
(iv) Euthanasia, or the humane killing to end suffering of an animal is further excluded.
(v) Acts of animal husbandry, selective or targeted breeding are also excluded.
(vi) This resolution is not intended to deny the use of animals currently employed as service or working animals, including but not limited to police dogs, animals used as aids for the handicapped, horses used for working situations or other animals used for purposes not widely accepted as cruel.
(vii) This resolution specifically excludes animal related laboratory testing of consumer products and medical procedures neither condoning nor condemning those actions, as it is felt that “Animal Testing” should be viewed as a separate and distinct issue.
DEFINITIONS:
(i) Domesticated Animal shall be defined as any animal that has been tamed and made fit for a human environment or born into such an environment.
(ii) Livestock shall be defined as any animal bred or tamed for the express purpose of providing food, fur, leather or other animal products.
(iii) Wild Animals shall be defined as non-domesticated animals not in the care or ownership of any person.
(iv) Pests shall be defined as any non-domesticated animal deemed to inhabit and/or cause damage to any building, structure, cropland, or other physical location or where eradication of said pest is in the best interest of the public health.
(v) abuse and torture shall be defined as any act causing physical harm, mutilation, or injury which would be deemed excessive by a reasonable person.
Votes For: 7,911
Votes Against: 2,850
Implemented: Wed Apr 13 2011
Insane.
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The Issue
Scientists have announced they are close to a breakthrough in their quest to revive the feather-bellied Homophobe, a species related to The Land of the Red Rainbow's national animal that has been extinct for more than a century.
The Debate
"I, for one, applaud their work," says scientist Wil Sato. "And not just because I'm the project leader. This is an example of how The Land of the Red Rainbow's brains can mix it with the world's best. Can you imagine how wonderful it will be to have feather-bellied Homophobes frolicking in the meadows again? I say full steam ahead, and more government funding!"
"This is a sacrilege!", says religious leader Declan Rifkin. "These animals are extinct because God wants them dead. Cloning them would merely incur his wrath! If we proceed down this path, it'll be humans, not the feather-bellied Homophobe, who will be extinct."
"Now, come on," says Daniel Triangle, well-known philosopher. "You don't need to be religious to be unnerved by the top of this particular slippery slope. Today it's Homophobes, tomorrow it's dinosaurs, and we all know how that turns out. This research shouldn't be banned, but there must be strict government controls over its use."
The weirdness....
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Jolly Roger Sighted Off The Port Bow!
Government Acts
Darvincia's merchant navy has seen increasing attacks from swashbuckling pirates in recent months, devastating Darvincia's foreign trade.
The Debate
"We should blow them out of the water!" says First Lord Admiral Sashona Patel. "These waterlogged vagabonds have been plundering our ships for far too long! All our exports from the Information Technology industry are going straight into their hands! It's downright dangerous for us to let this continue! All we require is some funding for coastal patrol boats, fleet carriers, and nuclear submarines and a free hand to show these freebooters what's what."
"Hello," says a grog-swilling, peg-legged scurvy dog entering your office. "I'm Cooper Smith, a mighty pirate. I'd like to suggest that instead of wasting all that money on attacking pirates you simply buy them off with barrels of bullion, jewels and Maxtopian gold! There'll still be pirates around, sure, but as long as everyone's paid off, they won't hinder your trade. Not much anyway."
"That's the second biggest load of bilge I've ever seen!" says Captain Grapnel, CFO of Hispaniola Shipping Insurance, LLC. "Shiver me timbers, if these scurvy dogs don't be cutting into me profit margin! Me comprehensive coverage has to pay out for victims o' illegality, and of course theft be illegal in this country, bu' that be giving me an idea - what if we were to have privateers? That is to say, if ye were to make piracy legal but with a quotar o' sorts, like huntin'? That way me and mine can stay in business and ye can get a fine cut o' th' booty from licence fees! Savvy?"
"Come now, that's hardly fair," argues 'gentleman pirate' Taupebeard de Gauche with a bow and flourish. "There is an ancient tradition of actively redistributing wealth on the high seas, and we active redistributors serve an important role in the global economy. You would not keep a family-run bookstore from handing down its business from generation to generation, would you? We simply ask, nay, demand the same right! And get rid of the word 'pirate'. It's a slur. We are corsairs - not common sea-faring thugs."
The Government Position
The government has indicated its intention to follow the recommendations of Option 2.
mfw
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http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/censusid=3/nations=starrie+bielosia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani+darvincia (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/censusid=3/nations=starrie+bielosia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani+darvincia)
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TROLOLOL
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=176846&p=9116658#p9116658 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=176846&p=9116658#p9116658)
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DARVIYOU DESERVE A COOKIE
you get no cookies
Also you never bordered me, and never will.
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DARVIYOU DESERVE A COOKIE
you get no cookies
Also you never bordered me, and never will.
...so no Lasexia nation borders you?
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The Issue
After a recent conversion mistake cost a government research project millions in Property Notes, Blaist Blaland's scientists have come to you begging for the country to switch to the metric system.
The Debate
1: "Our measurement system is a complete disaster!" wails renowned chemist Sarah Socialism as she storms into your office. "We're stuck using primitive and illogical measurements like 'fingers' or 'donkeypower' or 'MegaFonzie'. It's too much! Nearly every other nation has converted to the metric system. Think of how much it would help our communication with other countries. It'll cost a few Property Notes to convert, but it'll be damn cheaper than the mistakes our system is causing!"
2: "Primitive? How dare that lab rat say such a thing!" spits infamous patriot Kathleen Neumann. "They're not just measurements; they're part of our cultural heritage. Where would we be without our attoparsecs, hogsheads, or shakes of a African Grey Parrot's tail? You want to throw that all away because some scientists are too lazy to do their jobs correctly. Give the taxpayers a break and ignore these eggheads."
3: "This. This is a crossroads." states noted avant garde artist Louis Sparkle. "This idea that we can standardize how people look at the world with words, it's a fool's errand. Everything's relative, man. We need to stop trying to control the world and just live. Imagine how happy our nation'd be with no measurements." He pauses to puff on a pipe. "No time like the present, Leader. No time."
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>attoparsecs
win.
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ATTENTION FELLOW MEMBERS OF UPS.
Our allies, The Reunited Muslim States (http://www.nationstates.net/region=region_of_reunited_muslim_states) have been invaded by raiders, their delegate has been toppled and replaced by the tyrant who leaded this band. To whom it may concern, I implore you help by joining the region and endorsing Syed Abbas Mehdi (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=syed_abbas_mehdi).
we are almost reaching the apex, we need a few more endorsements and it cannot be sure if the raiders have reinforcements standing by.
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Talgud is banning everyone that's endorsing Abbas Mehdi.
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Oh, the battle's over. The raiders forced us out but we've locked up the UPS.
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we've locked up the UPS.
If people would endorse you... :-\
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Unless this government does something, Ethanthova won't have an auto industry for much longer," says auto industry union boss Margaret Sparkle,
Margaret Sparkle,
relation of yours?
(http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/133663514878.jpg)
what have I said about unprotected interspecies unions?
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smart cookie smart and has escaped the wrath of TS's tongue!
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This (http://www.nationstates.net/region=swag) region's got swag.
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INCOMING NS FIC.
Hello thar! Danke for reading this if you are. Hetalia-themed fic! Human names sometimes used.
Virulizza (Biel) = Bielosia
Xaruniko (Lyin)= Lyintaria
Dyloma (Yekt)=Holy Yektonisa
Khaini = Iachiiria
Elizabeta = Lizebathia
Aleyna = Aellinya
Lintus = Lentausia
Krystal = Kariminia
I huffed and watched the chaos of Lyin and Yekt arguing over about their food. Naturally this was normal since we were all siblings, but for the sake of GOD I wished I had better. Oh, and my name is Virulizza “The Red Conquistador” Eiironias, representing the nation of the Union of the Two Nations of Bielosia. Lyin’s human name is Xaruniko “The Dark Conquistador” Eiironias, representing the nation of the Far-Leftist Republics of Lyintaria (what a horrible name by the way). Yekt’s human is Dyloma “The Holy Conquestador” Eiironias, representing the nation of the Gods’ Faithful Dominion of the Holy Yektonisa (what was he thinking about the name!? I really doubt that the gods are faithful of him).
Anyways, this whole mess started when we were in the kitchen eating some food when suddenly Lyin said that the fish tasted horrible. Yekt, who cooked most of the food, yelled back at him for insulting his pride. Lyin then initiated the arguing, turning the kitchen into a whole mess. Khaini, who was at the hallway at the time, nearly got shot by a projectile food, and he ran away to his bedroom and locked the door. Elizabeta and Aleyna tried to stop the arguing but lost consciousness mainly because of their pacifist views (sadly). Lintus and Krystal began to clean up the room.
I began to step up to them and tried to stop both of them. I threw them opposite of eachother at the kitchen walls. The walls were ruined but I didn’t care; the two of them made our younger siblings almost scared to death and the house looking like a missile fell on it. I yelled at the both of them as they tried to get up, “What the hell are you doing?!”
Lyintaria protested, “It was Dyloma’s fault! He started it!”
Yektonisa punched her in the chest, “Yeah right! You were the one who said my food tasted bad!”
Lyintaria spitted at the ground and began to smoke, “Psshhh. Whatever, I’m going back to my room.” Lyin proceeded to go up to her room, but I stopped her with a question.
“Why are you like this, Lyin?”
She froze, proceeding to think about it. After few minutes of silence (with the exception of Linta and Krystal cleaning the household), she finally spoke with a hint of sadness in her voice, “It’s difficult to tell you, and I’m sorry for hiding this from you. This is a personal matter for me, but I guess it has to be said. Do you remember the Queendom Lysteriok?” Yekt and I nodded, remembering the former nation who was split up into Ethanthova and the Tri-National Dominion after a frightening civil war that still has scars on both of them.
“When she had the civil war, I was at the pastures of the continent at the time, waiting for you to come back from your hunting. It was so peaceful, no cries were heard, and my people were doing their work greatly. That is, until… HE, came.”
I pondered about ‘he’, but I had a good guess. “The Tri-National Dominion, right?”
“Yes, the evil one. He came to our peaceful villages, and he and his armies destroyed vast parts of my territorial extent. I had so much pain that I was to be sealed away forever. Of course, he eventually founded me, and declared me as his domain. I traveled in a cage with him, going back to his capital. I saw warfare, for the first time ever. I once saw Ethanthova, a young lady trying her hardest, charging up into her brother, but to no avail. She remembered my face, and promised that she would save me. As I saw her and her armies go over the hilltops, I was forced into a chamber. I saw corpses… it was horrifying to me at that time. I was too young to learn yet of the world. Then I found I had to be a… slave… a certain type… I think you should know, right Biel and Yekt?” I clapped my hand to my mouth while Yekt looked down at the floor, as we tried to process the imaginations about Lyin’s torture.
“Anyways, after years of that, TND declared war on Ethanthova, and I had to fight alongside of him. Somehow with luck, he had failed against his sister, and a peace deal was decided: I would be free. I thanked Ethanthova for her efforts, courage, and triumph as we talked towards the Loviniosan region. We began to talk and I was beginning to know her country a little better; apparently it’s not so far from Loviniosa. When I reached the border, we said goodbyes, and I was finally home. I still remember that moment at your reactions when I was at the front door.” I smiled remembering that day. I must’ve looked very shocked at the time. “And that is the end of TND’s capture of me. I’m sorry that I hid this from you, but it was very personal about it.”
I shook my head, “No, no, it’s okay dear sister. It was your choice, and we’re not to pressure you on about it. I’m so sorry about your captive, and I must send my appreciation to Ethanthova sometime soon.”
“Yes, I think that’ll be it. I’m sure she’s having a good time at her country, with her large population. I think the TND’s personality has changed somewhat; I met him not so long ago and he seems to be a little nicer since I last saw him. Perhaps his leaders are influencing him, I don’t really know. I still dislike him, however.”
Yekt finally apologized, “I apologize, Lyin. I never knew you were through this. I’m sorry for arguing with you earlier. Can we make up?”
Lyin brightened up and said, “Sure, let’s go outside, I hear it’s going to be a sunny day.”
I watched as the two of them chattered about their country’s problems and thought about what I had said earlier. Maybe these two weren’t so bad after all. Smiling, I walked after them, closing the front door of the household that holds many memories of the past.
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Kol.
Also, I got Blaist Blalands income equality up to 190 and Red Rainbow's up to 195. I don't think you can get it above 200, but I'm not sure. Blaist Blaland has 10 wealth gaps, which is the inverted income equality, and the top ranked in income equality in CIL all had 200.
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I should of visit this part of the forum more often. I started playing NationStates a few weeks ago. I RP in the NationStates thread on Facepunch.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_great_kingdom_of_the_great_king (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_great_kingdom_of_the_great_king)
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welcomewelcomewelcome back to the horribly odd usforums
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welcomewelcomewelcome back to the horribly odd usforums
^^^^^^^^
:D
You should join the United Pacific States, if you want.
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Oh cool. :) Welcome.
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I would join you guys in the fun but I don't want to abandon Facepunch. I'm suppose to be joining a war with a few nations there.
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22 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the government's official stance on religion is that it is so very silly. :P
3 hours ago: Following new legislation in The Land of the Red Rainbow, the nation is famous for having one of the world's largest Homophobe hunting institutions.
And, our economy has gone above the starting level for the first time to 63! ;D NationStates Applied Blaist Socialism is finally working, and in Red Rainbow too. :P
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bump
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The Issue
Scientists and animal rights activists have once again brought up the debate over animal experimentation to your attention.
The Debate
"What have those poor, defenceless animals ever done to us?" asks Beth Licorish, owner of the East Ethanthova Dove Sanctuary. "Kidnapping these helpless creatures from their habitat simply to stick probes and needles in them is just barbaric! How would you like it if someone caged you in a lab and conducted tests on you just to find out whether a new product was fit for sale? Experimenting on animals ought to be banned!"
I read it entirely in fluttershy's voice.
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Kol. I'd say yes to it. And it increases my economically by a huge bit every time. Somehow it also increases income inequality, though, which I don't get.
I mean, yes to using animals for scientific experiments.
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Kol. I'd say yes to it. And it increases my economically by a huge bit every time. Somehow it also increases income inequality, though, which I don't get.
I mean, yes to using animals for scientific experiments.
I was thinking about this but I saw something about commercial ventures and thought "eeeeeeeh."
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kaeshar please endore holykol
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kaeshar don't endorse fiahowl he is a lie
endorse holykol please, and i promise to stop killing ponies
and don't endorse ethanthova please.
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othx kaeshar
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and that is a good thing. calm down.
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wheeeeeee
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stop spamming up the thread, it's not helping you.
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"NO MORE BOMBS," chant the protestors outside Parliament House, in a repetitious and increasingly annoying appeal. Spokesperson Stephanie Sanchez, speaking through a feedback-afflicted microphone, says, "Holykol needs fewer weapons, not more! Make the world a safer place! Disarm now!"
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"The fact is, the Trololo Man population is out of control," says Beef-Based Agriculture spokesperson Jennifer Falopian. "We have to do something about them anyway, so why not market them as tasty snacks? We could have Trololo Man kebabs, Trololo Man pies, Trololo Man-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless! Let's not pass up this golden opportunity to provide a feast, if you will, for our economy."
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hmm what to pick Following a tragic double-murder, capital punishment has surged as an election issue. There now appears a real possibility that right-wing candidate Maria Trax, running on a "Do the Crime, pay the Penalty" platform, will gain power. While society's intelligentsia is outraged, debate rages as to whether the government should intervene.
The Debate
"This is a democracy, remember?" rhetorically questions Professor Lucas Sato of the University of Greater Holykol. "That means that if the people want something, the people get it. I hate to say it, but in the name of political freedom, we need to accept that our country will have the death penalty."
"I'm sorry," says Civil Rights Unionist Clint Anderson, "but this travesty cannot be allowed to pass. If the government needs to crack down on lunatic fringe groups in order to keep our great nation free of the death penalty, then so be it. We must ban the politics of hatred and fear!"
The Government Position
The government has yet to formalize a position on this issue.
If you wish, you may:
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Ohhhhh so It's come down to election campaigns has it?
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why do you have a capitalist blue fist /me slams door in aeridani's face
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So, it has come to this.
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also i'm about twice as socialist/communist as you are. @aeripoopie
KOL NARU
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i must bring in the sysadmins
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and now, a party political broadcast from Mattias Drake, of Ethanthova:
Spiderjack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5jKuYOotsA#ws)
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So much kolkol in this thread.
Kipz, I chose the ban death penalty myself. I don't think you should be able to vote on human rights like that, but that's just my opinion.
Then comes the problem of defining human rights.
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Aeridani: 67 civil rights
Holykol: 78 civil rights
Aeridani: 73 political rights
Holykol: 80 political rights
Aeridani: 58% public
Holykol: 82% public
Aeridani: 10th most beautiful in UPS
Holykol: 8th most beautiful in UPS
Aeridani: 99.5 ecofriendly
Holykol: 116.25 ecofriendly
Aeridani: -13 compassion
Holykol: 0 compassion
Aeridani: 10 happiness
Holykol: 11 happiness
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Aeridani: -5 niceness
Holykol: 8 niceness
Aeridani: 75 wealth gap
Holykol: 6 wealth gap
Aeridani: -31 weather
Holykol: 19 weather
Aeridani: 26 welfare
Holykol: 48 welfare
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i'm holykol, not starrie.
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Endorse me you bloody gits!
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they're seperate so you cannot treat them as one.
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1. yes is there a problem with not caring about leaders? all holykol's leaders are fair and cute.
2. nothing to get corrupt with when everything is public... thats a lie
3. It's better than dying expectedly!
4. It's only because you have higher economy...
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71276.html#msg71276
1. holykol is funded by the kallistan pr department :P
2. less deaths = less healthcare req.
3. What if we don't need to be intelligent...
4. longer life =/= good
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71277
1. Yeah we have the freedom to be obese...
2. A communist state dunt need gov
3. Freedom of religion isn't a problem.
4. Yur people dunt take risks
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71278
1. Work from home.
2. nationstates isn't very accurate with this. communism has 100% employment theoretically.
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71280.html#msg71280
last week =/= this week
also religious is not a bad thing necessarily. fighting over it is.
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Since you can apply the above post to anything anyone says i'm not going to respond to it just as you didn't respond to my post at all by posting after it.
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1. yes is there a problem with not caring about leaders? all holykol's leaders are fair and cute.
There's a problem when nobody gives a fuck about who gets elected.
why
2. nothing to get corrupt with when everything is public... thats a lie
You're no communist then.
if communism, nothing to get corrupt with because nothing is anyone's
3. It's better than dying expectedly!
I'd rather know that I'd probably die in 80 years rather then getting the plague tomorrow
I'd rather not know when I'd die than knowing I'd die in 5 minutes
4. It's only because you have higher economy...
MEANWHILE IN SOLEA
they have more population, thus monies.
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71276.html#msg71276
1. holykol is funded by the kallistan pr department :P
Makes sense
yes it does. holykol is like, the pretty side of kallisto :)
2. less deaths = less healthcare req.
It really depends on howthe NS stats work.
So does everthing... population depends on ns stats too...
3. What if we don't need to be intelligent...
Then you are the laughing stock of the world for not knowing how to make a car.
cars? eww bicycles ftw
4. longer life =/= good
Explain why.
well you could have a long life in misery or a shorter one filled with happiness
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71277
1. Yeah we have the freedom to be obese...
So do my citizens
less of yours are obese which means it's discouraged by your gov not subsidizing unhealthy foods or something.
2. A communist state dunt need gov
Why does NS stats say you have a government then?
because max barry isn't communist
3. Freedom of religion isn't a problem.
I think it's better to have smarter citizens
religion =/= dumb
4. Yur people dunt take risks
That has nothing to do with it..
then what does
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71278
1. Work from home.
If you are working from home then you are not unemployed.
If i work from home i don't need transport or this public transport. we use bicyles :)
2. nationstates isn't very accurate with this. communism has 100% employment theoretically.
You're not communist then. Suck it up.
i am communist. 82% public. the rest is lemonade stands.
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last week =/= this week
also religious is not a bad thing necessarily. fighting over it is.
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SHUT UP AND ENJOY
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1. yes is there a problem with not caring about leaders? all holykol's leaders are fair and cute.
There's a problem when nobody gives a fuck about who gets elected.
why
nvm
2. nothing to get corrupt with when everything is public... thats a lie
You're no communist then.
if communism, nothing to get corrupt with because nothing is anyone's
but you're nor communist because it shows you are corrupt!
i am communist because there is nothing to be corrupt with. Normally a person is corrupt when he seizes money or stuff but he can't in communism because there is nothing to take.
3. It's better than dying expectedly!
I'd rather know that I'd probably die in 80 years rather then getting the plague tomorrow
I'd rather not know when I'd die than knowing I'd die in 5 minutes
So you're not bothered if you are more likely to get hit by a bus instead of living to age 60?
Are you more bothered that you have cancer and have 3 weeks to live or living up to the age of 60?
4. It's only because you have higher economy...
MEANWHILE IN SOLEA
they have more population, thus monies.
I think it means as a percentage of GDP
thinking has nothing to do with it. we'd better just leave this alone unless you find proof of it somewhere
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71276.html#msg71276
1. holykol is funded by the kallistan pr department :P
Makes sense
yes it does. holykol is like, the pretty side of kallisto :)
2. less deaths = less healthcare req.
It really depends on howthe NS stats work.
So does everthing... population depends on ns stats too...
3. What if we don't need to be intelligent...
Then you are the laughing stock of the world for not knowing how to make a car.
cars? eww bicycles ftw
I'd love to see how your dumb citizens would do against an Aeridane in history/science/math.
I'd love to see it matter at all
4. longer life =/= good
Explain why.
well you could have a long life in misery or a shorter one filled with happiness
Who says you can't have a happy long life?
no one. but you can also have a happy short life, so this longer life thing does not necessarily a good thing
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71277
1. Yeah we have the freedom to be obese...
So do my citizens
less of yours are obese which means it's discouraged by your gov not subsidizing unhealthy foods or something.
Isn't that a good thing?
It's preventing people from being obese, but my people have the freedom to become obese, kill themselves, whatever. There is no good/bad/right/wrong on this really, and we could go on for pages on this topic
2. A communist state dunt need gov
Why does NS stats say you have a government then?
because max barry isn't communist
3. Freedom of religion isn't a problem.
I think it's better to have smarter citizens
religion =/= dumb
I don't mean to be against the naturist or buddists, I just like to have less people who like to spout god is coming for christmas
Whats' wrong with that.
4. Yur people dunt take risks
That has nothing to do with it..
then what does
It means less of my people like to rob your ass or set you on fire
Lovely. thats allowed in holykol, and everyone is happy with it. You can opt out from the fun if you want though.
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71278
1. Work from home.
If you are working from home then you are not unemployed.
If i work from home i don't need transport or this public transport. we use bicyles :)
My bad, I was confusing this one with the one below
2. nationstates isn't very accurate with this. communism has 100% employment theoretically.
You're not communist then. Suck it up.
i am communist. 82% public. the rest is lemonade stands.
Nationstates says otherwise
What do you mean :P nationstates say i have 82% public which is pretty much communist, more so than you are and you declare yourself to be socialist.
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71280.html#msg71280
last week =/= this week
also religious is not a bad thing necessarily. fighting over it is.
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SHUT UP AND ENJOY
No please go on, I'm so excited to see what they'll do when they run out of colors.
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1. yes is there a problem with not caring about leaders? all holykol's leaders are fair and cute.
There's a problem when nobody gives a fuck about who gets elected.
why
nvm
2. nothing to get corrupt with when everything is public... thats a lie
You're no communist then.
if communism, nothing to get corrupt with because nothing is anyone's
but you're nor communist because it shows you are corrupt!
i am communist because there is nothing to be corrupt with. Normally a person is corrupt when he seizes money or stuff but he can't in communism because there is nothing to take.
3. It's better than dying expectedly!
I'd rather know that I'd probably die in 80 years rather then getting the plague tomorrow
I'd rather not know when I'd die than knowing I'd die in 5 minutes
So you're not bothered if you are more likely to get hit by a bus instead of living to age 60?
Are you more bothered that you have cancer and have 3 weeks to live or living up to the age of 60?
What I mean is that my citizens are less likely to get cancer and more likely to live to 60, as in this example
you could unexpectedly die at age of 70 when the normal lifespa
4. It's only because you have higher economy...
MEANWHILE IN SOLEA
they have more population, thus monies.
I think it means as a percentage of GDP
thinking has nothing to do with it. we'd better just leave this alone unless you find proof of it somewhere
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71276.html#msg71276
1. holykol is funded by the kallistan pr department :P
Makes sense
yes it does. holykol is like, the pretty side of kallisto :)
2. less deaths = less healthcare req.
It really depends on howthe NS stats work.
So does everthing... population depends on ns stats too...
3. What if we don't need to be intelligent...
Then you are the laughing stock of the world for not knowing how to make a car.
cars? eww bicycles ftw
I'd love to see how your dumb citizens would do against an Aeridane in history/science/math.
I'd love to see it matter at all
Umm... xD
Umm...xD
4. longer life =/= good
Explain why.
well you could have a long life in misery or a shorter one filled with happiness
Who says you can't have a happy long life?
no one. but you can also have a happy short life, so this longer life thing does not necessarily a good thing
A shorter life does not necessarily mean a good life either
So, we have established that lifespan does not mean good.
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71277
1. Yeah we have the freedom to be obese...
So do my citizens
less of yours are obese which means it's discouraged by your gov not subsidizing unhealthy foods or something.
Isn't that a good thing?
It's preventing people from being obese, but my people have the freedom to become obese, kill themselves, whatever. There is no good/bad/right/wrong on this really, and we could go on for pages on this topic
2. A communist state dunt need gov
Why does NS stats say you have a government then?
because max barry isn't communist
3. Freedom of religion isn't a problem.
I think it's better to have smarter citizens
religion =/= dumb
I don't mean to be against the naturist or buddists, I just like to have less people who like to spout god is coming for christmas
Whats' wrong with that.
4. Yur people dunt take risks
That has nothing to do with it..
then what does
It means less of my people like to rob your ass or set you on fire
Lovely. thats allowed in holykol, and everyone is happy with it. You can opt out from the fun if you want though.
I like to have a more "civilized" society but w/e.
what does setting people's butts on fire have to do with civilized. maybe it's considered polite here.
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71278
1. Work from home.
If you are working from home then you are not unemployed.
If i work from home i don't need transport or this public transport. we use bicyles :)
My bad, I was confusing this one with the one below
2. nationstates isn't very accurate with this. communism has 100% employment theoretically.
You're not communist then. Suck it up.
i am communist. 82% public. the rest is lemonade stands.
Nationstates says otherwise
What do you mean :P nationstates say i have 82% public which is pretty much communist, more so than you are and you declare yourself to be socialist.
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71280.html#msg71280
last week =/= this week
also religious is not a bad thing necessarily. fighting over it is.
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1. yes is there a problem with not caring about leaders? all holykol's leaders are fair and cute.
There's a problem when nobody gives a fuck about who gets elected.
why
nvm
2. nothing to get corrupt with when everything is public... thats a lie
You're no communist then.
if communism, nothing to get corrupt with because nothing is anyone's
but you're nor communist because it shows you are corrupt!
i am communist because there is nothing to be corrupt with. Normally a person is corrupt when he seizes money or stuff but he can't in communism because there is nothing to take.
3. It's better than dying expectedly!
I'd rather know that I'd probably die in 80 years rather then getting the plague tomorrow
I'd rather not know when I'd die than knowing I'd die in 5 minutes
So you're not bothered if you are more likely to get hit by a bus instead of living to age 60?
Are you more bothered that you have cancer and have 3 weeks to live or living up to the age of 60?
What I mean is that my citizens are less likely to get cancer and more likely to live to 60, as in this example
you could unexpectedly die at age of 70 when the normal lifespa
Yes you could but my point is that an Aeridane is more likely to do that than get murdered
4. It's only because you have higher economy...
MEANWHILE IN SOLEA
they have more population, thus monies.
I think it means as a percentage of GDP
thinking has nothing to do with it. we'd better just leave this alone unless you find proof of it somewhere
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71276.html#msg71276
1. holykol is funded by the kallistan pr department :P
Makes sense
yes it does. holykol is like, the pretty side of kallisto :)
2. less deaths = less healthcare req.
It really depends on howthe NS stats work.
So does everthing... population depends on ns stats too...
3. What if we don't need to be intelligent...
Then you are the laughing stock of the world for not knowing how to make a car.
cars? eww bicycles ftw
I'd love to see how your dumb citizens would do against an Aeridane in history/science/math.
I'd love to see it matter at all
Umm... xD
Umm...xD
Umm...xD
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4. longer life =/= good
Explain why.
well you could have a long life in misery or a shorter one filled with happiness
Who says you can't have a happy long life?
no one. but you can also have a happy short life, so this longer life thing does not necessarily a good thing
A shorter life does not necessarily mean a good life either
So, we have established that lifespan does not mean good.
:o what?
i said, we have established that lifespan doesn't mean your country is better or worse.
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1. Yeah we have the freedom to be obese...
So do my citizens
less of yours are obese which means it's discouraged by your gov not subsidizing unhealthy foods or something.
Isn't that a good thing?
It's preventing people from being obese, but my people have the freedom to become obese, kill themselves, whatever. There is no good/bad/right/wrong on this really, and we could go on for pages on this topic
2. A communist state dunt need gov
Why does NS stats say you have a government then?
because max barry isn't communist
3. Freedom of religion isn't a problem.
I think it's better to have smarter citizens
religion =/= dumb
I don't mean to be against the naturist or buddists, I just like to have less people who like to spout god is coming for christmas
Whats' wrong with that.
4. Yur people dunt take risks
That has nothing to do with it..
then what does
It means less of my people like to rob your ass or set you on fire
Lovely. thats allowed in holykol, and everyone is happy with it. You can opt out from the fun if you want though.
I like to have a more "civilized" society but w/e.
what does setting people's butts on fire have to do with civilized. maybe it's considered polite here.
wtf?
invalid answer
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71278
1. Work from home.
If you are working from home then you are not unemployed.
If i work from home i don't need transport or this public transport. we use bicyles :)
My bad, I was confusing this one with the one below
2. nationstates isn't very accurate with this. communism has 100% employment theoretically.
You're not communist then. Suck it up.
i am communist. 82% public. the rest is lemonade stands.
Nationstates says otherwise
What do you mean :P nationstates say i have 82% public which is pretty much communist, more so than you are and you declare yourself to be socialist.
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71280.html#msg71280
last week =/= this week
also religious is not a bad thing necessarily. fighting over it is.
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1. yes is there a problem with not caring about leaders? all holykol's leaders are fair and cute.
There's a problem when nobody gives a fuck about who gets elected.
why
nvm
2. nothing to get corrupt with when everything is public... thats a lie
You're no communist then.
if communism, nothing to get corrupt with because nothing is anyone's
but you're nor communist because it shows you are corrupt!
i am communist because there is nothing to be corrupt with. Normally a person is corrupt when he seizes money or stuff but he can't in communism because there is nothing to take.
3. It's better than dying expectedly!
I'd rather know that I'd probably die in 80 years rather then getting the plague tomorrow
I'd rather not know when I'd die than knowing I'd die in 5 minutes
So you're not bothered if you are more likely to get hit by a bus instead of living to age 60?
Are you more bothered that you have cancer and have 3 weeks to live or living up to the age of 60?
What I mean is that my citizens are less likely to get cancer and more likely to live to 60, as in this example
you could unexpectedly die at age of 70 when the normal lifespa
Yes you could but my point is that an Aeridane is more likely to do that than get murdered
4. It's only because you have higher economy...
MEANWHILE IN SOLEA
they have more population, thus monies.
I think it means as a percentage of GDP
thinking has nothing to do with it. we'd better just leave this alone unless you find proof of it somewhere
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71276.html#msg71276
1. holykol is funded by the kallistan pr department :P
Makes sense
yes it does. holykol is like, the pretty side of kallisto :)
2. less deaths = less healthcare req.
It really depends on howthe NS stats work.
So does everthing... population depends on ns stats too...
3. What if we don't need to be intelligent...
Then you are the laughing stock of the world for not knowing how to make a car.
cars? eww bicycles ftw
I'd love to see how your dumb citizens would do against an Aeridane in history/science/math.
I'd love to see it matter at all
Umm... xD
Umm...xD
Umm...xD
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Do Holykolans like pasta?
4. longer life =/= good
Explain why.
well you could have a long life in misery or a shorter one filled with happiness
Who says you can't have a happy long life?
no one. but you can also have a happy short life, so this longer life thing does not necessarily a good thing
A shorter life does not necessarily mean a good life either
So, we have established that lifespan does not mean good.
:o what?
i said, we have established that lifespan doesn't mean your country is better or worse.
We have established that an Aeridane would generally live longer.
We have also established that this is not necessarily a good thing.
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71277
1. Yeah we have the freedom to be obese...
So do my citizens
less of yours are obese which means it's discouraged by your gov not subsidizing unhealthy foods or something.
Isn't that a good thing?
It's preventing people from being obese, but my people have the freedom to become obese, kill themselves, whatever. There is no good/bad/right/wrong on this really, and we could go on for pages on this topic
2. A communist state dunt need gov
Why does NS stats say you have a government then?
because max barry isn't communist
3. Freedom of religion isn't a problem.
I think it's better to have smarter citizens
religion =/= dumb
I don't mean to be against the naturist or buddists, I just like to have less people who like to spout god is coming for christmas
Whats' wrong with that.
4. Yur people dunt take risks
That has nothing to do with it..
then what does
It means less of my people like to rob your ass or set you on fire
Lovely. thats allowed in holykol, and everyone is happy with it. You can opt out from the fun if you want though.
I like to have a more "civilized" society but w/e.
what does setting people's butts on fire have to do with civilized. maybe it's considered polite here.
wtf?
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Aeridanes like pizza
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71278
1. Work from home.
If you are working from home then you are not unemployed.
If i work from home i don't need transport or this public transport. we use bicyles :)
My bad, I was confusing this one with the one below
2. nationstates isn't very accurate with this. communism has 100% employment theoretically.
You're not communist then. Suck it up.
i am communist. 82% public. the rest is lemonade stands.
Nationstates says otherwise
What do you mean :P nationstates say i have 82% public which is pretty much communist, more so than you are and you declare yourself to be socialist.
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71280.html#msg71280
last week =/= this week
also religious is not a bad thing necessarily. fighting over it is.
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what color are you using i can't read shit.
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wheeeeeee
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Now here's your commercial break
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1. yes is there a problem with not caring about leaders? all holykol's leaders are fair and cute.
There's a problem when nobody gives a fuck about who gets elected.
why
nvm
2. nothing to get corrupt with when everything is public... thats a lie
You're no communist then.
if communism, nothing to get corrupt with because nothing is anyone's
but you're nor communist because it shows you are corrupt!
i am communist because there is nothing to be corrupt with. Normally a person is corrupt when he seizes money or stuff but he can't in communism because there is nothing to take.
3. It's better than dying expectedly!
I'd rather know that I'd probably die in 80 years rather then getting the plague tomorrow
I'd rather not know when I'd die than knowing I'd die in 5 minutes
So you're not bothered if you are more likely to get hit by a bus instead of living to age 60?
Are you more bothered that you have cancer and have 3 weeks to live or living up to the age of 60?
What I mean is that my citizens are less likely to get cancer and more likely to live to 60, as in this example
you could unexpectedly die at age of 70 when the normal lifespa
Yes you could but my point is that an Aeridane is more likely to do that than get murdered
4. It's only because you have higher economy...
MEANWHILE IN SOLEA
they have more population, thus monies.
I think it means as a percentage of GDP
thinking has nothing to do with it. we'd better just leave this alone unless you find proof of it somewhere
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71276.html#msg71276
1. holykol is funded by the kallistan pr department :P
Makes sense
yes it does. holykol is like, the pretty side of kallisto :)
2. less deaths = less healthcare req.
It really depends on howthe NS stats work.
So does everthing... population depends on ns stats too...
3. What if we don't need to be intelligent...
Then you are the laughing stock of the world for not knowing how to make a car.
cars? eww bicycles ftw
I'd love to see how your dumb citizens would do against an Aeridane in history/science/math.
I'd love to see it matter at all
Umm... xD
Umm...xD
Umm...xD
invalid response
Do Holykolans like pasta?
4. longer life =/= good
Explain why.
well you could have a long life in misery or a shorter one filled with happiness
Who says you can't have a happy long life?
no one. but you can also have a happy short life, so this longer life thing does not necessarily a good thing
A shorter life does not necessarily mean a good life either
So, we have established that lifespan does not mean good.
:o what?
i said, we have established that lifespan doesn't mean your country is better or worse.
We have established that an Aeridane would generally live longer.
We have also established that this is not necessarily a good thing.
true true. But why did you just copy my orange characters? Do you want to get us mixed up?
no it was accident
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71277
1. Yeah we have the freedom to be obese...
So do my citizens
less of yours are obese which means it's discouraged by your gov not subsidizing unhealthy foods or something.
Isn't that a good thing?
It's preventing people from being obese, but my people have the freedom to become obese, kill themselves, whatever. There is no good/bad/right/wrong on this really, and we could go on for pages on this topic
2. A communist state dunt need gov
Why does NS stats say you have a government then?
because max barry isn't communist
3. Freedom of religion isn't a problem.
I think it's better to have smarter citizens
religion =/= dumb
I don't mean to be against the naturist or buddists, I just like to have less people who like to spout god is coming for christmas
Whats' wrong with that.
4. Yur people dunt take risks
That has nothing to do with it..
then what does
It means less of my people like to rob your ass or set you on fire
Lovely. thats allowed in holykol, and everyone is happy with it. You can opt out from the fun if you want though.
I like to have a more "civilized" society but w/e.
what does setting people's butts on fire have to do with civilized. maybe it's considered polite here.
wtf?
invalid answer
Aeridanes like pizza
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71277.html#msg71278
1. Work from home.
If you are working from home then you are not unemployed.
If i work from home i don't need transport or this public transport. we use bicyles :)
My bad, I was confusing this one with the one below
2. nationstates isn't very accurate with this. communism has 100% employment theoretically.
You're not communist then. Suck it up.
i am communist. 82% public. the rest is lemonade stands.
Nationstates says otherwise
What do you mean :P nationstates say i have 82% public which is pretty much communist, more so than you are and you declare yourself to be socialist.
@http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg71280.html#msg71280
last week =/= this week
also religious is not a bad thing necessarily. fighting over it is.
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inb4 TND gets voted
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needs more blood
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Who says it's blood? :V
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needs more noise
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Who says it's noise?
WHO SAYS IT'S A POSTER?
WHO SAYS IT EXISTS?
pthtasdjfasgd hjhsdhjf
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/me explodes matty
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wtf?
I'm not sure you grasp that there's even a such thing as being "civilized."
Also, @ lifespans, would you rather live with the burden of death for 2 whole years knowing the approximate day you're going to die, or just die, and have only minutes, seconds, or even unexpectedly die in your sleep, and have lived the rest of your life not worrying about it?
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Get rid of stuff you're done talking about.
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When I saw this one, I was like "AAA! Balkanization!" at first, but after reading it, I figured it was more like going towards a federal or parliamentary government.
Option 1: Still seems a bit like balkanization to me (I know it won't actually happen that way in NS, other than through roleplay), but I'm going for this one, despite the risk.
Option 2: Business as usual I guess? Plus some downsizing.
Option 3: Authoritarian Dictatorship, no thank you. (Maybe this is considered more communist by you guys, but I don't want to go this way.)
Southern Kaeshar Demands Semi-Autonomy
The Issue
Politicians from a distant and obscure part of Kaeshar have been calling for the government to split Kaeshar into various semi-autonomous regions, each with an elected council to govern their designated area.
The Debate
"The government is too centralised," complains rural villager, Stan Fellow. "We get these big-city politicians making rulings that affect our way of life, when they have absolutely no idea what our way of life is! One of them even suggested that farmers should be banned from picking crops in case they disturbed the local wildlife! What we need are various councils to govern their own part of Kaeshar, giving us the chance to have our say on laws affecting our area. It'll bring politics to the people! Of course this will require the implementation of a council tax to fund it all, but if that's the cost of more political freedom, then so be it!"
"Councils? Are you mad?" gasps political commentator, Bharatendu Neumann. "Most of the politicians we already have earn very large sums each year - and you want to employ even more?! We must not listen to the whims of some dangerous separatist movement; next they'll be wanting independence! I suggest we keep the government in one place where we can keep an eye on it and stop creating more jobs for over-paid politicians. Heck, why not trim off the ones we don't need while we're at it and give some leeway to the taxpayers? Anyway, if we allowed places like West Kaeshar to make decisions for themselves, they would soon be introducing laws allowing them to marry their cousins or something - you know what they're like..."
"These people are obviously power-hungry lunatics," whispers Hack Patel, one of your innumerable advisors. "They're simply trying to loosen your grip on the nation! Let's just send anyone who opposes your absolute rule to the gallows and ban elections. We hardly need them when you always know what to do! There may be some protest, but we can just lower taxes and they'll be as happy as clams."
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Sort of looks like a fascist dictatorship to me, not like a communist dictatorship.
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Its still an authoritarian dictatorship.
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There's nothing about that third option which is remotely related to communism.
Plus it speaks about lowering the taxes, I don't see how on Earth that would be related to communism in any way.
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So now you're in Europe?
LET THE MOST GRAND AERIDANI ANNEX VIRGINIA, WEST VIRGINIA, PENNSYLVANIA, NEW JERSEY, KENTUCKY, AND FLORIDA!
No.
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lol! We need this in US elections IMO. No idea if it'll do more harm than hurt though.
A loose coalition of political activists running the gamut of the political spectrum has started a petition to add 'None of the Above' as an option on every ballot, so that a voter can reject all candidates if he feels none of them represent a viable option. If 'None of the Above' wins the election, a new election with all-new candidates would have to be held.
The Debate
"It's a simple matter really," says left-wing activist and former rock star Wil Bush. "Sometimes when you're voting, all the options suck. Why then should people be forced to hold their nose and vote for the lesser of two, or even three or four evils? Adding 'None of the Above' to the ballot would ensure that the people have a choice at all times, even if that choice is to reject the choices they have been given!"
This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.
"Adding 'None of the Above' to the ballot makes absolutely no sense," contributes conservative political pundit Freddy Science. "Those who want to run for office have already put their names on the ballot, and if none of those options suits the voter, that's just too bad. Instead, we ought to prevent this sort of problem and limit the number of options. Sure, fewer people can run, but that will eliminate costly runoff elections completely!"
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no that would be great
then there would be President No Ruler
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i'm flagphilic
Seconds ago: Holykol altered its national flag.
21 minutes ago: Holykol lodged a message on the The United Pacific States Regional Message Board.
4 hours ago: Following new legislation in Holykol, cheese has become the new icon of political dissent.
4 hours ago: Following new legislation in Holykol, terrified neighbors cower behind concertina wire and machine gun nests.
7 hours ago: Holykol altered its national flag.
7 hours ago: Holykol altered its national flag.
7 hours ago: Holykol altered its national flag.
11 hours ago: Holykol altered its national flag.
1 day 4 hours ago: Following new legislation in Holykol, the latest Harry Potter book is a bestseller.
1 day 10 hours ago: Holykol lodged a message on the The United Pacific States Regional Message Board.
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kol so liek today, about 55 billion people died
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dGltQ0UzVVdWazdBZEhPR1dQYk4td2c&pli=1#gid=0
make more babies ns.
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Hrm, which one of these options would be more communist?
The latest budget reports have marked a steady decline in Kaeshar's monthly income. A study initiated by your treasurers has revealed that many of your nation's citizens are not paying their taxes.
The Debate
"Damn right we're not!" exclaims Larry Malik, one of many citizens protesting in front of your office. "Your oppressively high taxes are picking our pockets and robbing us of our livelihood. No more, we say! The government may call us tax cheats, but that's just because it's afraid to call us the PATRIOTS that we are! Cut the tax rate, and we'll think about paying again." (lower taxes basically)
"Kaeshar can't survive when people don't pay their taxes!" retorts Elaine Tan, the head of Kaeshar's Revenue Bureau. "Citizens may feel that they need to keep all of their Fossilias, but the government needs it too! Without taxation, how can we build roads, schools and hospitals? How can we protect the people from themselves? We need to give the police broad powers to lay down the law on these tax-evading scum until they pay up." (I could see where this could go, but.....)
"Scum is such a harsh word. Everyone has something worthwhile to contribute, as my mother always said." says Jacob Dubois, controversial social theorist and fountain of homespun folk wisdom. "Even if they won't pay their taxes, folks ought to have other ways to pay back into society. They could spend some time with the civil service or military reserve, for example. And goodness knows, blood and organ donation rates aren't as high as they could be. A pint of blood or a good kidney ought to pay a tax bill right proper." (The silly option I think)
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It's already a liberal democratic socialist state.
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In short, none of them would be communist, as money (and thus taxes) wouldn't exist in communism.
The first one would be anti-socialist, while the second two would not be anti-socialist. I chose the second option myself (I got the same issue today).
Fiah, why are you now against communism? :P
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kol.
is this truth
The Federal Republic of Danziland
13 hours ago
Hey everyone I just recently relocated here so Just saying Hi!! :D
The Socialist Autarky of Solea and Rift Auspikitan
13 hours ago
Hello and welcome!
The Free Land of Holykol
9 hours ago
Hello :)
The Social-Democratic Republic of Darvincia
9 hours ago
ohej
inb4 tups grows insanely
The Armed Republic of The Land of the Red Rainbow
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Welcome.
The Empire of Kaeshar
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Is that you Dan, from Ubox? Anyways, whether you are or not, welcome to TUPS Danziland. :)
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I have no idea if that is Dan or not, but that's based on the name alone.
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me neither.
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this is reel
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yay we can vivisect west Bielosia into two, lemme get started on that
I'll vivisect you too c:
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It's too late to apologize.
Kip and I shall grab your territories one by one.
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Oh yes we are, dear friend.
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Ahh, your nationalistic values are dearly wrong. We are neither stupid, haters of the ponies,and communist. Has your mentors taught you wrongly ideas of the world?
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cute i'll have some pieces of aeridani too.
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I propose that the Council of Uboxian Nations be created.
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I decree that after every night and every day, we are all same...
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We are all the same in my bag of awesomeness.
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/me cuts out of this mysterious bag in to reality
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and now, a political broadcast from Head Of State Mattias Drake.
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THE DWARF HAS SPOKEN
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GUYS
GUYS
IF YOU GIVE ME DESCRIPTIONS OF YOUR LEADERS
GUYS
I COULD POSSIBLY DO ONE OF THESE FOR YOU.
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I said your leader, Fiah, I can get the overview any time. :P
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The leader, bro.
Not overview.
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... Forget it.
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My leader. My leader is... I haven't decided yet.
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Kol, that is epic. :P Blaist Blaland's leader happens to look suspiciously much like this (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31772508/Image.png) in case you want to make one, and clothes are all black. Red Rainbow's leader is the same but with black hair, more pale skin and red eyes. More details are also here (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5291.msg71140.html#msg71140)
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Ok you do it for me, I'm completely failing.
okay okay, I want you to describe what the guy who runs your nation looks like. Nationstates doesn't provide this, I hope this clears stuff up.
also people, not a requirement but sure does make the piece a lot nicer: if I had your flag in as high a resolution possible for the background.
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If you want the Blalandish flag in another resolution, I can make that very quickly. (And don't take this as a you have to make anything, it's just if you decide to do it and need it).
Edit: Blalandish flag is now 1000x1000 pixels.
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those resolutions look good, the canvas is 1000x1000 and I gradient the flag towards the top anyway.
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something wonderful is going to happen, hal~
UFUFUFUFUFUFU~
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wut dar
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Darvince is having a baby.
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I've been having some fun with swapping layers.
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make him shoot lasers because.
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today about 20 times worth of the earths population was born in ns.
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"He's invented a what?"
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Kol, glad you liked it Fiah. :P
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kolwut
(I did a dar)
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Blaist Blaland's leader happens to look suspiciously much like this in case you want to make one, and clothes are all black. Red Rainbow's leader is the same but with black hair, more pale skin and red eyes. More details are also here
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ok naru
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wut?
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(http://i49.tinypic.com/bi2f68.jpg)
Okay I swear this will be the last Mattias Drake/genderbend sheet I do.
For this week.
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Kol.
Oh well, our economy did drop a bit, but at least we got plenty of income equality now.
6 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the words 'private' and 'enterprise' must never appear in the same sentence.
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tru story about tups
[02:58.15] <kip|gs> FIRST IT WAS POO
[02:58.17] <kip|gs> AND THEN NUE
[02:58.19] <kip|gs> it rhymes.
[02:58.21] <+Naru523> I KNOW EVERYTHING NOW
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darvincia must dictatorfrigate
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darvincia must dictatorfrigate
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http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=184697&p=9740186#p9740187 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=184697&p=9740186#p9740187)
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that pic needs a lot of work :P Dusty ground and strange perspective issues
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Bax Marry
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Lolwhat fiah?
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Okay Fiah here's what I have, if you want anything changing let me know. That hair was just insanely difficult to draw. Also I have no idea what your leader wears. I decided to make america's round rims more contemporary square ones (If that's fine, it can be changed.)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ep3705.jpg)
Lucy is included so I could reference the scale.
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'That hair was just insanely difficult to draw. '
[09:27.09] <+matty406> So I spend that time working on the hair for Fiah to tell me his leader wears a beret
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Yes my jimmies are a little rustled but I shall get on it.
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inb4 kiss
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(http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/3212-now-kiss.jpg)
Ohi darv
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+100 karma
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"Hah! Like that will work!" snorts Britney al-Zahawi, Minister of Waste Disposal and Sanitation. "They'll just come after the rest of us and destroy the government from the bottom up! No, we need to go even further - reinforce the Parliament! We'll turn Earth into an impenetrable fortress! Robot bodyguards, food tasters... no expense should be spared! We should all do our jobs through a complex network of computers so we never have to leave the safety of our offices again!"
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replace earth with 'your mom'
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Request Sent To Sent
Chippewa Nation 6 days ago
Durnmarsk 6 days ago
In Hell 6 days ago
The Maglist World 6 days ago
Terroir 6 days ago
The Roman Empire Reborn 6 days ago
Ordo Mortarion 6 days ago
Wisconsin 6 days ago
Oop North 6 days ago
Conflation 6 days ago
Kalina 6 days ago
Roach Hell 6 days ago
The Land of Nearly Enough 6 days ago
The Kingdom of Denmark 5 days ago
Mato Grosso 6 days ago
The GameFAQs Forum 6 days ago
Vaults of Auschwitz 6 days ago
All under heaven 6 days ago
this is for poorposes
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finally, darvincia has dictatorfrigated
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matty's old region
UFUFUFUFU~
http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_realms_of_data (http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_realms_of_data)
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how the hell did you find that lol
also, eradication is almost kolpleteed http://www.nationstates.net/nation=holykol/detail=economy (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=holykol/detail=economy)
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We used this.
http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/nation.aspx?nation=ethanthova (http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/nation.aspx?nation=ethanthova)
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holyshit my population is over 1 billion
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yes, this is the day I predicted it would.
the 29th is ska and some other nations.
the 30th is me and bielosia.
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OH YES OH YES OH YES
"The only deity this country needs is the one it already has, master," says Emmanuel Syme, one of your creepier advisers while obsequiously bowing on the floor. "I of course refer to you, Mudkip, the finest ruler any humble subject could hope to have! We long to worship you and do your bidding! Some call that a cult of personality, but I prefer to call it... love."
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KOL yes I remember seeing that when getting the religion issue in Blaist Blaland. :P
If you choose it, can you name your national religion?
I think I want it for Redbow, but I'd also like to name the religion gaytheism. Blagic could be another option, but I guess. :P
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yes it does, at 1 billion population you get the religion issue i think, and i just passed 1 billion. this must be it.
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my religion is explodonism
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Some Factbook updates, Kipz tell me if you want the religion one changed to not contain Mudlogic.
Blaist Blaland and Religion (addition)
The people who are religious are mainly gaytheists (mostly people from The Glorious Armed Proletariat of The Land of the Red Rainbow), a few believe in Blagic, and there are also some pastafarians. A small minority of people might still be alive and believe in Mudlogic - earlier, they were often seen falling off cliffs or exploding in experiments while challenging some radical ideas, like gravity and nuclear fusion. However, these religions are among the most accepted in the country and people don't tend to look down upon followers. Except when followers of Mudlogic attempt to gnaw in the legs of Blaists in order to prove their already falsified hypothesis of them containing lapis lazuli. *snipsnipsnip*
Foreign Relations of Blaist Blaland
The Socialist Union of Blaist Blaland has historically held close but mostly secret ties to The Glorious Armed Proletariat of The Land of the Red Rainbow, leading some to speculate whether Blaist Blaland secretly has supported the so-called "atrocities" against the antigay population within the country and the harsh militarism of the country's ideology. The two countries have often supported each other diplomatically, Blaist Blaland by holding their internationalist, pacifist hand over Red Rainbow when criticized, and Red Rainbow by immediately intervening when another country threatens Blaist Blaland.
Blaist Blaland itself promotes international solidarity, demilitarization and communism, and is a part of the Communist International League, which it also considers very important allies.
Especially through Red Rainbow, Blaist Blaland also maintained close ties to The United Pacific States - some have even accused Red Rainbow of being Blaist Blaland's puppet in the region. However, through June 2012, both Red Rainbow and Blaist Blaland have begun to look in other directions as they have speculated whether the UPS is on the verge of collapsing, with many of the original countries leaving the region.
Blaist Blaland maintains a peaceful and mostly neutral stance towards the rest of the world, generally minding its own business.
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kol mudlogic is fine
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created the Republic of Potato Lands :D
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Kol. xD
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=potato_lands (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=potato_lands)
Exciting.
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Kol. xD
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=potato_lands (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=potato_lands)
Exciting.
and Kolmmunist
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Some Statistics
We have around 110 nations, making up 0.12% of the world in number of nations.
The Nationstates World has almost 220 Trillion People
All our nations make up about 0.03% of that, containing 67 Billion People
Each day, our nations combined grow by approximately 555 Million, which is 0.4% of the world's 119 Billion growth per day.
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epicute
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darvincian nations classification
No Classification
Snavwxniik-Nakwn
Dartomic Farevar
Rannbows
New Unicornia
Tier 0
Darvincia (Darvwnse-a)
Tier 1
Vikilwlopritnixa
Tier 1.1
Kirivakkak
Aodwkaso
Ikkuvvuki
Zanwx
Vikkada
Tier 2
Kaxwvkii-Kol
Akwmax
Kolktwx
Tier 3
Akwnvi-Fwx
Maxwmkakki
Key to Don
Tier 4
Lnwm
Akanaki
Maxkii
Fiik Lankii A-kol
If I had to assign tiers to all of them, Snavwxniik-Nakwn would go on Tier 4, and Rannbows and New Unicornia would be on Tier 0.
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While the average nationstates nation population hovers about 2.2 billion, all 5 pacifics have an average nation population of under 1 billion.
Of the three regions where nations are refounded, Osiris and Balder have an average population just that of the world; Lazarus has an average population of 3.5 billion.
The nations of The Rejected Realms have an average population of just barely over 2 billion.
10000 Islands is the only region in the top 10 which is not a feeder. In addition, it has a average population of over 1.4 billion.
The region with the largest absolute population is Lazarus with 11.57 Trillion People, making up about 5.2% of the entire nationstates world population.
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more statiztiks (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=188304&p=9939915#p9939915)
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>2.2 billion
holyshit
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yes yu are puny.
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so are yu
also the first quartile avg is 548 million
third quartile is 9 billion
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kolkute
making a graph of that now
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darvince you have it all wrong
i can't get the grph working
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dE5OT1ItUE1xVWk4WUMxbElXdVkwM2c#gid=0
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Callisto
Himalia
Amalthea
Sinope
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sinope?
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So liek i made a spreadsheet of our regions and puppet regions. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dHhseDI5ejYtNjl4akJ0SDQ2WjVhOFE&pli=1#gid=0)
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sinope?
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you forgot:
height sagua
capital letters ftw
CIL (bla is in it)
equestria (new unicornia is in it)
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dGltQ0UzVVdWazdBZEhPR1dQYk4td2c#gid=0
over 426 billion babbies have mysteriously vanished in the past 2 days
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I ate them.
And they were delicious.
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Welp Bla is Saturn.
Quick hide Zeus.
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nukes-4-u factbook
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=nukes-4-u/detail=factbook/id=22291 (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=nukes-4-u/detail=factbook/id=22291)
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So liek i made a spreadsheet of our regions and puppet regions. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dHhseDI5ejYtNjl4akJ0SDQ2WjVhOFE&pli=1#gid=0)
updated
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bye savioli
bye commonwealth of color
Rannbows is now a Himalian nation.
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So, Atomic and Darvince, any idea on how we make distribute the issues on Nausikkak in the long term?
Ideally, it should be completely equally distributed. We could make it so that Atomic takes the issues today, Darvince decides the issues tomorrow, I decide them in two days, then Atomic, and so on. We can check up on the issues and if there's something we disagree with, we can vote.
If you think it's a mess to keep track of the dates, we could also say Atomic Monday and Tuesday, me Wednesday and Thursday and Darvince Friday, Saturday and Sunday (or something like that). This isn't equally distributed, ofc.
We could also swap Sundays, so Atomic takes one Sunday, then I take the next, and then Darvince... This should be easier to keep track of than swapping every day, and I think this would be the best system, combined with voting if we disagree on an issue.
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How will we decide the issues in the first place?
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mudkipz, i have found the cause, over 6 thousand large nations died in the past couple days.
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In a bid to provide a new revenue stream for Snavwxniik-Nakwn's Beef-Based Agriculture industry, it has been suggested that Fascists could be added to the menu.
"The fact is, the Fascist population is out of control," says Beef-Based Agriculture spokesperson Mohammed Shiomi. "We have to do something about them anyway, so why not market them as tasty snacks? We could have Fascist kebabs, Fascist pies, Fascist-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless! Let's not pass up this golden opportunity to provide a feast, if you will, for our economy."
"I agree that something needs to be done about Fascist over-population," says random passer-by Anne-Marie Barnes, "but eating them? That's kind of gross. Let's just shoot the ones we have to and shovel their bodies into ditches like normal."
"I am shocked and appalled!" declared SPCA President Elizabeth Jones. "If anyone needs to be culled, it's us humans. The Fascists were here first, remember? We need to take this as a sign to get our industry--agriculture in particular--to back off. The Fascist is part of what makes Snavwxniik-Nakwn a great nation!"
ohonhonhon
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In a bid to provide a new revenue stream for the United States of America's Beef-Based Agriculture industry, it has been suggested that Communists could be added to the menu.
"The fact is, the Communist population is out of control," says Beef-Based Agriculture spokesperson Arthur Kirkland. "We have to do something about them anyway, so why not market them as tasty snacks? We could have Communist kebabs, Communist pies, Communist-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless! Let's not pass up this golden opportunity to provide a feast, if you will, for our economy."
"I agree that something needs to be done about Communist over-population," says random passer-by Alfred F. Jones, "but eating them? That's kind of gross. Let's just shoot the ones we have to and shovel their bodies into ditches like normal."
"I am shocked and appalled!" declared SPCA President Ivan Braginski. "If anyone needs to be culled, it's us humans. The Communists were here first, remember? We need to take this as a sign to get our industry--agriculture in particular--to back off. The Communists is part of what makes the United States of America a great nation!"
ohonhonhon
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How will we decide the issues in the first place?
We decide the answers to them individually, like I wrote, and if someone answers them and we disagree, we can vote.
We should write down some values for the nation to base the answers on. My suggestions are:
Militarism
Imperialism
Socialism/equality
Atheism (you and Darvince seem to want state paganism, so let's go with that)
Totalitarianism
Industrialism
Political freedoms would be very low. Civil rights would be higher, probably fluctuate a lot. Idk what we should aim at here, maybe iron fist socialist, but that seems sort of Redbowish, maybe (that's my aim for Redbow, at least now).
The private sector would only be illegal lemonade stands.
Industrialism means it favors pollutive industry in the name of the (short term) economy and doesn't care about the environment.
From this pool we should have plenty of things to disagree with, giving us reasons to eventually break up and found the different nationstates. Solea is militaristic, but also focused on preserving nature (which all of us are).
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Made through Photofunia.
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I created a nation to me have fun with
is the The Free Land of The Free Lands of Free Freedom xD
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We decide the answers to them individually, like I wrote, and if someone answers them and we disagree, we can vote.
We should write down some values for the nation to base the answers on. My suggestions are:
Militarism
Imperialism
Socialism/equality
Atheism (you and Darvince seem to want state paganism, so let's go with that)
Totalitarianism
Industrialism
Political freedoms would be very low. Civil rights would be higher, probably fluctuate a lot. Idk what we should aim at here, maybe iron fist socialist, but that seems sort of Redbowish, maybe (that's my aim for Redbow, at least now).
The private sector would only be illegal lemonade stands.
Industrialism means it favors pollutive industry in the name of the (short term) economy and doesn't care about the environment.
From this pool we should have plenty of things to disagree with, giving us reasons to eventually break up and found the different nationstates. Solea is militaristic, but also focused on preserving nature (which all of us are).
Ok. Works for me.
Except do you mean they answer the issues but it's not a new day for the region yet?
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Except do you mean they answer the issues but it's not a new day for the region yet?
I can no longer read English. >_>
Do you mean time zones?
I just mean, for example, on Mondays and Tuesdays, Darvince answers/clicks/decides the issues. The days will overlap between you two and me, but I guess it won't be a problem.
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I mean, how are we supposed to vote on the issue if it has already been selected, you can't go back and change it unless the WA and everything hasn't been updated.
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I mean, how are we supposed to vote on the issue if it has already been selected, you can't go back and change it unless the WA and everything hasn't been updated.
We would vote between the time it has been clicked and before it comes into effect. It isn't a long time so we might miss most issues, but there's nothing to do about that.
We could also make a veto system, if one of us is against something another person chose and we aren't online to vote, we can dismiss the issue.
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On the subject of issues, I usually dismiss ones about modern tech like cloning, and substitute other things, like soda for Ale or something.
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"Who do these thugs think they are?" asks popular liberal blogger Falala Chandra. "The police should be the only ones handling border control! If we leave it in the hands of wild frontiersmen, immigrants will be herded and probed like Blaists! It's despicable, it's degrading, and it must be stopped!"
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oh yes the blaist population
i liek to herd blaists
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...!!!
I don't think this is entirely legal!!!
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Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Book Publishing.
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Meanwhile somewhere in the future...
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A branch from the space program, for interstellar travel and affairs.
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i was expecting ethanthovan space agency
ESA
kol.
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ethanthova poo agency
EPA
owait blaists will be blaffended
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In other news, Kaeshar just privatized it's airport security. At least that's what I think I did and it was the 'the sky is falling!' issue with that Snakes on a Plane reference and TSA strip search reference in there.
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In other news, Kaeshar just privatized it's airport security. At least that's what I think I did and it was the 'the sky is falling!' issue with that Snakes on a Plane reference and TSA strip search reference in there.
die
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kol
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just reading this thread makes me giggle
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=190266 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=190266)
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okokok, this is the starrian space program.
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space*
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space*
To the Aeridanish, it's the same thing.
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so does SKA people call sky and space SKAce?
cwutididthere
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i'm joking ffs
are you saying people shouldn't call space anything because it doesn't belong to them?
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naming 'space' 'SKAce' does not mean they own it. it's just what they call it. just terminology/language.
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Yay Aeridanés are smarter then Bielosians
Yay Issalosiés are smarter then Bielosians
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Dat intelligence.
Inb4 Ethanthova goes like this:
Family guy - Ireland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogLoJv9WfEE#ws)
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Bielosia doesn't fund into education, lol.
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darvincia doesn't fund education because private schools are illegal
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darvincia doesn't fund education because private schools are illegal
But what about public schools?
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they don't exist
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they don't exist
How do your people learn... ?
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Homeschooling, I assume. It's the same as Bielosia's.
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Public unschooling is best.
idk actually
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homeschooling has limits/guidelines
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You know, if you let everyone gets homeschooled... That's going to be first of all really inefficient because it'll take away a lot of the time from your parents to divert attention to a single or (statistically) very few children compared to teachers (consider 20 children in a normal class vs. a single child (or maybe two if they have similar ages enough to be educated at the same time with the same methods). That said, a single child would get more attention, so if an average parent had the skills of an average teacher (which I think is extremely unlikely), it wouldn't be as bad as 1/20 because the child would get more attention than in a normal class.
But this inefficiency is much of the same which led families away from the traditional family structure of mothers taking care of children while fathers went to work, to a system of kindergartens where a small amount of adults, educated for the purpose, take care of a lot of similarly-aged children who then spend time together in an institution specifically made for them.
I think parents homeschooling every child is deeply inefficient. It's probably good in some cases if the parents are properly educated in diverse enough subjects and know how to teach this to their children. But I think the best solution to the problems in public schools is to change the public schools, not homeschooling.
What are the benefits which I fail to see which would make people choose to completely abolish public schools in favor of homeschooling? Can you tell me some more things about the education systems you want, how you ensure the integrity of the education and not just parents filling their children with their own made-up stuff and religion, for example, on the scale where homeschooling is complete?
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homeschooling has limits/guidelines
.gif me time to write them out in a lengthy document
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wt/me is skeptical
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Gunman Kills Three
The Issue
Tragedy struck Kaeshar today, as a gunman killed three people in a suburban shooting rampage. The community is united in grief, but divided in opinion as to what should be done.
The Debate
The strongest voices demand tighter gun controls. "The only way to prevent further atrocities is to take the guns out of the hands of the murderers," says anti-gun campaigner Ryan Tan. "There's no justification for them in today's society. We need tighter regulations on who can hold guns, so only our police and military have them."
(I probably wouldn't regulate quite this tightly, but then again, being an American, I'm probably biased (no, I don't own guns). Still, regulation seems to be the way to go.
"That's not all we need," says radical left-wing activist Aaron Broadside. "The government should ban all guns outright--even in the police force. This is an opportunity to make Kaeshar a totally gun-free state."
(And then when the criminals get guns, what are you going to do, knife them?)
"Guns don't kill people, people kill people," says NRA head honcho Lars al-Zahawi. "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. Is that what we want? Think, people. The answer isn't to ban guns. It's to crack down on those Hollywood movies and computer games that glamorize violence. They're the real criminals."
(The first bit is a good point, but still, NRA combined with Zahawi? *flails a radioactive cross at Zahawi*)
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Private schools can go die though.
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[01:42] <+FiahOwl> Boltway is almost completely overrun, and Ethanthovan Army Corps start to flood in to contain it
[01:42] <+FiahOwl> DAY TWENTY ONE
[01:42] <+FiahOwl> first infection spotted in all major cities
[01:42] <+FiahOwl> Aeridani declares martial law and enacts curfews
[01:42] <+FiahOwl> The Battle for Boltway is lost
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The final boss of Boltway appears.
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The Issue
Hospitals have requested that they be allowed to pay people for donating blood and other bodily organs, such as kidneys.
The Debate
"We remain critically short of blood plasma and various organs," says Dartomic Farevar One hospital administrator Jake Winters. "Especially hearts. A good heart is hard to find. But if we were allowed to pay for donations, we'd get more of them and could save more lives. Plus the donor takes home a few hundred virgins in compensation. Unless it's a post-mortem donation, of course. In that case we'd pay the family."
KOL
"Great idea," says social commentator Mia Gutenberg. "Except for one thing. You know who's going to be selling their organs? Poor people! They'll be so desperate for money that they'll sell their own kidneys. Well, a kidney. This is just another way for the rich to buy themselves a better life at the expense of the poor. It must be outlawed."
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Anybody got this one before? Just asking out of curiosity. Of course though, the real world issue is far more complicated than this seemingly simple NS issue.
Cowboys and... Aliens?
The Issue
A gang of rough-riders has been policing towns along Kaeshar's border, rounding up illegal aliens and "escorting" them back home.
The Debate
"Who do these thugs think they are?" asks popular liberal blogger Virginia Usman. "The police should be the only ones handling border control! If we leave it in the hands of wild frontiersmen, immigrants will be herded and probed like Velociraptors! It's despicable, it's degrading, and it must be stopped!"
"Why, we just helpin' our community, is all," drawls the self-proclaimed sheriff of the cowboy gang, Harry Fjord, as he slides off his saddle to shake your hand. "Matta'fact, we're helpin' the gov'ment as well, enforcin' border control and keepin' yer towns safe from them damned illegals. I can handle m'boys, so don't you worry 'bout a thing."
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It's a new issue. I've got it in several of my nations.
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I got it not so long ago. Chose the first one.
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It's a new issue. I've got it in several of my nations.
+1
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I got it not so long ago. Chose the first one.
Chose the first one as well.
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ocay mum
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Voting For More Money
The Issue
It has long been traditional in Kaeshar for Members of Parliament to set their own salary. This has, however, led to a recent vote in which members unanimously tripled their pay. Watchdog groups have spoken out against this.
The Debate
"Oh, wouldn't the world be a happier place if we could all decide our wages," shouts John Hendrikson, leader of the World Of Watchdog, an anti-corruption foundation. "Who in their right minds would vote against getting more money with no strings attached? This quite obviously cannot be allowed to continue or where will it end? That money should be being used to fund hospitals, not personal luxuries! Well enough is enough! Politicians' salaries should be set by public vote! Maybe then we'll see something more reasonable!"
"I couldn't agree less," says Ali Eliot, a Member of Parliament. "Sure, some people might think that having eight cars and three secretaries is excessive, but I'm doing our country a valuable service. Probably one of the most important services there is: representing the people and deciding what course our country should take. It's an incredibly stressful job and there's no way we could do it with lower pay. Members of Parliament ought to be allowed anything they want in return for all they do for Kaeshar. If we have what we want we're less likely to take bribes too."
"Perhaps there's a way to compromise," says Stan Pushkin, an amateur economist, philosopher and lepidopterist. "The problem here is that politicians could either be paid too little or too much. What if we paid them just right by paying them according to how well they do their job? Keep a close monitor on the needs of their constituencies and give bonuses for resolving problems and coming under budget. It gives them a proper monetary incentive to do their jobs. Some will have a harder time than others and the whole idea may be costly but if it cracks down on corruption I'm all for it."
If only the US congress were paid the way the third option is done. Maybe, just MAYBE, they'd actually get things done and actually cooperate and compromise (and yes I'm picking the third option).
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I'd probably go with the first one. Politics shouldn't be a place you go to earn money, it should be a place you work to make the world a better place. That should be the only motivation. If people aren't motivated by that they should definitely stay out of politics. And I also think it'd be hard to measure how "well" politicians do, because it's often very subjective. But if they're corruptioning ofc they should be thrown out of politics.
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I'd probably go with the first one. Politics shouldn't be a place you go to earn money, it should be a place you work to make the world a better place. That should be the only motivation. If people aren't motivated by that they should definitely stay out of politics. And I also think it'd be hard to measure how "well" politicians do, because it's often very subjective. But if they're corruptioning ofc they should be thrown out of politics.
+1
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I changed my mind and decided to go with the first one, which really did make the most sense to me, but I was going to go with the third one just for fun.
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I invented my own little method to calculate a "realistic" GDP for our nations. Basically, a formula converts the economy value of a nation into a "growth" value. Your nation has a starting GDP of "100", this is just a base, what it was before you took control, and can be whatever you like. But after you take over, the gdp is calculated every day and changes by the growth value.
If you economy is 0, the growth is -0,1%. If your economy is 40, it's 0%. If it's 100, it's 0,15%. So if your GDP was 100, and your economy in NS is 100 for the next day, your GDP will become 100 + 100 * 0,15 / 100 = 100,15.
This also means growth is exponential. Over an entire year, you can get a probably unrealistically high growth... If it stays at 100 for a year your economy will grow by 73%. It would fall by 31% if it stayed at 0 for an entire year. The formula could be made more complex and changed, but I thought that 0% growth should be around 40.
Here the data and graphs are for Blaist Blaland. I can make similar graphs for your nations as well if you like, but max 2 nations pr. person.
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bla give the spreadsheet for the calculzz
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bla give the spreadsheet for the calculzz
You're blind
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no
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yeah you are blind my GDP is 87.22
but we have economy NS just fails
This includes extrapolation.
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Aeridani.
I should really write a program for formatting the data in the charts instead of manually deleting the commas and shifting lines. >_<
And did Redbow for fun.
Darvince: The Excel file is blattached to the last post. (Now updated)
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What is this voodoo magic
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trying to mess around with the formula i accidentally made 0 economy be -3600% growth and 100 economy be 4000% growth
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Ethanthova.
Collective.
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Here's the growth formula, the newest doc and a file I made for optimizing the growth formula for the future, which shows some examples based on the formula.
I think max growth should be around 20% pr. year.
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Could you do Kaeshar?
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I'll do Kaeshar, but I think I'll optimize the growth formula before doing more nations now. If you people have suggestions, it'd be good. Maybe we should make it an official formula for determining our nations' GDPs (just from a base called "100" which can be whatever)? I think it'd be fun if we could make something realistic based on the NS stats.
What do people think of adding some random noise like for example by using sin or cos on the number of days or something like that (should definitely be something more noisy than the sin or cos cycle, but based on days I think)? And multiply growth by something like that so that it doesn't just become one straight line if you stay at one value. Hmm.
Maybe draw a graph for the growth rates you think economy values should give for an entire year and then optimize the formula based on the drawings. This is probably what I think.
Well I guess Atomic doesn't want it to be official based on NS stats since NS stats aren't really realistic or reflecting how he wants his country to be, and I could understand if other people feel the same way. I guess I'll just make it non-official and improve the formula based on what I think and stuff so whatever. I think this is how it should be. Maybe with a sharper rise in the start.
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Well I guess Atomic doesn't want it to be official based on NS stats since NS stats aren't really realistic or reflecting how he wants his country to be
I don't really care, it just doesn't work well for me. XD
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Well, i dont like of ns stats because
NS stats aren't really realistic or reflecting how he wants his country to be
xD
But you can make it official if everyone wants.
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Ok I think I developed a better formula. How does this look?
Maybe it is unnecessarily complex. I think you could get rid of some of the x^4 x^3 and x^2 parts and still make it look okay.
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wt
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how about a simple linear form
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how about a simple linear form
I think that's what it was.
Bla, couldn't you get that same shape from just a cubic function?
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also bla, the annual growth formula is wrong. it shud simply be the daily growth times 365.2425
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Bla, couldn't you get that same shape from just a cubic function?
That's what I was thinking. Well if it's only third power then it won't be as steep in the end. That's why I wanted to keep the fifth power and remove some of the lower powers.
how about a simple linear form
Yes you could make it linear, but I think the middle ranges of the NS economies should be around +/- 5% growth pr. year. The extremes should be more uncommon imo.
also bla, the annual growth formula is wrong. it shud simply be the daily growth times 365.2425
No Darvince, because if 100 grows by 10% for one day, it becomes 110. What if it grows by 10% the next day?
The next day it would grow by 10% of 110, which would be 11, so after two days, it's 121.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth)
The formula ends up being (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/a/2/6/a26eff392e6966b6faf9acb545f4b8a1.png)
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Well, i will not use this, so, good luck on findin' the formula xD
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That's what I was thinking. Well if it's only third power then it won't be as steep in the end. That's why I wanted to keep the fifth power and remove some of the lower powers.
2x^3 is steeper than x^3, increase the co-efficient.
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Ok I cubified the function and now (green) it looks pretty much like the old one (red), just much more simple, but sadly not as steep near the ends.
2x^3 is steeper than x^3, increase the co-efficient.
Yes, but if it's high, the graph will look like an S, and it must not decrease while going from 0 to 100. So they have to be very low.
5 hours ago: Following new legislation in The Land of the Red Rainbow, the nation is famous for having one of the world's largest antigay hunting institutions. >:D
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Ok, I changed the cubic formula a bit and decided to use it.
Updates with the new formula and lots of new nations.
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kolwut @ nue
do rannbow
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Kol this must be a new one.
The Issue
After the kidnapping, rape, and murder of a young blond girl made national headlines in Blaist Blaland, the concerned parenting organization Mothers Against Youth Doing Stupid Stuff (MAYDSS) has raised concerns over the use of social networking sites by the nation's teens.
The Debate
"Teens should not be allowed to use social networking!" cries the girl's mother, Sashona Anderson. "Some creep added my little darling as a 'friend' on that awful website, and he used it to get all of her personal information and track her down! Obviously, the only sane course of action is to ban all legal minors from using social networking sites! And don't just stop at social networks: block everything else that MAYDSS doesn't approve of!"
"Why that's utterly preposterous!" shouts Luke Zuckermann, founder of MyFace, a popular social networking site. "You can't restrict people like that! Oh, sure, today it's keeping teens from lining my wa- I mean - accessing my website, but tomorrow it's keeping everyone from anywhere the government doesn't like! I say free up the web, and get rid of restrictions!"
"You know, there's always a compromise," says local pervert Freddy Li while watching you from a nearby tree. "As I see it, the best way to keep both sides of the argument happy is to remove all restrictions on what adults can view and increase restrictions on minors. But at the same time, lower the age of majority by a lot. What could possibly go wrong?"
"What could possibly go wrong, you ask?" panics your paranoid cousin, Roger Brown. "On the internet, nobody knows your actual age. It's a haven for malicious anonymity! Besides, children aren't the only people at risk on the internet. It's full of stalker-rapists and bomb-makers and viruses and sick, depraved porn. We're better off without it."
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wt
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62 minutes ago: Kaeshar was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Liberal Democratic Socialists".
62 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Kaeshar, heavy industry must go to expensive lengths to dispose of waste.
1 day 12 hours ago: Kaeshar fell out of the regional Top 10% for Safest.
3 days 12 hours ago: Kaeshar was reclassified from "Liberal Democratic Socialists" to "New York Times Democracy"
Huh what? Not sure what changed it and then changed it back. Economy maybe?
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62 minutes ago: Kaeshar was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Liberal Democratic Socialists".
62 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Kaeshar, heavy industry must go to expensive lengths to dispose of waste.
1 day 12 hours ago: Kaeshar fell out of the regional Top 10% for Safest.
3 days 12 hours ago: Kaeshar was reclassified from "Liberal Democratic Socialists" to "New York Times Democracy"
Huh what? Not sure what changed it and then changed it back. Economy maybe?
Yes. Economic "freedom" went from low to moderate.
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg52171.html#msg52171 (http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg52171.html#msg52171)
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updated
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dHhseDI5ejYtNjl4akJ0SDQ2WjVhOFE#gid=0
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obai sagua
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What.
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Inb4 all of us can no longer read English.
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Samuel/Aeridani everywhere
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The Issue
Several musicians have recently produced songs in which "Violet" sings silly and offensive things, causing outcries of horror from the Order of Violet.
The Debate
"THIS IS BLASPHEMY!" shouts May King, Grand High Poobah of the Order of Violet. "Our holy scriptures specifically forbid any portrayal of our prophet's most holy voice. We cannot permit people to slander and mock our prophet and insult all of us. These people are simply doing this to see if we are extremists. Death to the blasphemers!" xD
Speaking anonymously and from hiding, one of the musicians says, "It was just meant to be a joke! I never thought that they'd take it so seriously. I just wanted to give them a little ribbing like I do the other major religions of Pastafarianism and Frisbeetarianism." Pete Frederickson glances over their shoulder to see if anyone is watching, "Please don't try to figure out who I am. I'm scared for my safety. The government should protect my freedom to insult whomever I want. Freedom of speech should hold nothing sacred, not even God."
"Freedom of speech is important, but so is freedom of religion. Surely we can strike some sort of balance?" says Ivan Chandra, chief spokesperson for the TLOTRRSOC (the The Land of the Red Rainbow Society of Compromisers). "Freedom of speech comes with a responsibility. People must avoid anything that insults another's religion, and if they aren't willing to do it themselves, the government must enforce it." D:
"His Holiness, the Grand High Poobah of Violet, has the right idea, but the wrong religion," says Heather Peters, the Prelate of Primary Public Relations for the fanatical organization The Land of the Red Rainbow's Concerned Citizens for Our God. "This nation needs an official religion, and not support the Godless heathens who worship the idolatrous Violet. Appoint me as your spiritual adviser an I'll ensure that all people worship God in the correct way."
"They've got it all wrong. Freedom of speech isn't the problem, religion is!" shouts Samuel Sikkel, at a local AA (Atheists Anonymous) meeting. "If religion were outlawed, this problem would solve itself. Just send them in for medical treatment. After all, anyone who believes in some big invisible dude who can do anything is clearly nuts."
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This could very well be an US news headline.
Economic Collapse Looms!
The Issue
Big business, fed up with over-regulation in Kaeshar, are heading offshore in ever-increasing numbers.
The Debate
"Good riddance!" says noted environmentalist William James. "Sniff that air! It's never been so clean! At last, our society is freeing itself from the consumer death-trap! I say it's time to take the final step and outlaw capitalism once and for all!"
"This is a catastrophe waiting to happen," says the Chamber of Commerce. "Think of the consequences! Without big business, where do the jobs come from? Where do we get our medicine? Our cars? Our latest fashions? There are dozens of useless regulations the government could abolish today to make life easier for commerce, and it's high time they did."
Of course though, Bla would go for abolishing capitalism, but to me, the issue is outsourcing (as opposed to offshoring).
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I don't know which one to choose.... maybe flip a coin for it.....
Edit: Flipped a virtual quarter (I could have flipped a real coin, but meh, lazy, lol), and came up heads, so, first option.
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KOL yes
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Just so you know, the first option will impact your economy negatively, and the second one will make it go up, according to the CIL Economic Guide.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kVvk-F8KYaoWMCXELe5T8WMewWCWF_tKGAjem-ZYqRg/edit?hl=en&pli=1
But yes, I'd go with the first option if my economy had stabilized at 100. Idk if I would currently. Most likely I would dismiss it and wait until my economy stabilizes at 100.
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kaeshar: socialist -> centrist -> welfare capitalism -> commies
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Hrmmmm...... *flips it to the second option*
I'm all for insourcing, which is how I'm interpreting that NS issue.
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otarjijios you are now fully capitalist
/me cancels embassy with kaeshar
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I don't see how this has much to do with outsourcing, but it seems more like offshoring is the problem here.
Of course, this wouldn't be a problem in a nationalized economy where the country itself has full control of the economy, which means that it won't be involved in the pressure from corporations jumping around the planet and exploiting working people where work is cheapest.
But it's not surprising that NationStates instead sets up a false dilemma between "corporations" or "no economy", as always on any issues involving capitalism and socialism. :P
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bla y u no irc.
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otarjijios you are now fully capitalist
/me cancels embassy with kaeshar
Otarjijos? I don't think I'm fully capitalist. Just trying to stabilize economy.
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I might IRC some time but usually it steals my attention and makes my gayming productivity fall.
I keep dismissing NS issues. :| I want some issues about culture or sport kthxbai.
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In a bid to provide a new revenue stream for Lysteriok's Beef-Based Agriculture industry, it has been suggested that peasants could be added to the menu.
The Debate
"The fact is, the peasant population is out of control," says Beef-Based Agriculture spokesperson Hillary Broadside. "We have to do something about them anyway, so why not market them as tasty snacks? We could have peasant kebabs, peasant pies, peasant-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless! Let's not pass up this golden opportunity to provide a feast, if you will, for our economy."
"I agree that something needs to be done about peasant over-population," says random passer-by Don James, "but eating them? That's kind of gross. Let's just shoot the ones we have to and shovel their bodies into ditches like normal."
"I am shocked and appalled!" declared SPCA President Billy Patel. "If anyone needs to be culled, it's us humans. The peasants were here first, remember? We need to take this as a sign to get our industry--agriculture in particular--to back off. The peasant is part of what makes Lysteriok a great nation!"
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seems legit
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orite, kallisto did a military rebudget:
army: 0%
navy: 0%
air force: 0%
space: 14%
cyber: 29%
nuclear: 57%
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ummm
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they're not exactly flimsy.
and the theory, is that only having nuclear weapons will prevent war.
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Kaeshar is now edging towards communism/socialism.
Suits in Protest
Government Acts
The Issue
Thousands of business men and women have taken to the streets in protest of their working conditions and pay. "It's not fair that we can't have a union," says Billy Barnes, VP of Sales at SlothCorp. "Just because we make six figures doesn't mean we don't deserve overtime too! It's high time that the lower classes come to appreciate our hard efforts."
The Debate
Buy Silk, secretary of commerce, recommends you ignore these commies. "Free enterprise means not having to succumb to unions, and the world has enough unions already."
Hack Tan, secretary of labor, advises you to adjust laws to allow white-collar unions. "It only makes sense that all of the workers in our nation have equal opportunity to benefit from the advantages of collective bargaining."
This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.
"Get these people out of the street!" advises Charles Summers, local police chief. "They're blocking traffic, and making it impossible for the common man to drive to the megamall!"
Finally, Right Reverend Clint Levy proclaims, "The downtrodden are suffering at the hands of the MAN, and these wealthy upper shelf vice presidents are asking to make the rich richer and the poor poorer! The only reason the common worker needs a union is to be able to fight against the oppression of these slave drivers! It's ludicrous that these greedy scrooges are asking for even MORE money! Send them packing and raise taxes on the wealthy to bring more equality to our nation!"
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/me doubly cancels embassy with Kaeshar
oh and force all my socialist/communist nations to cancel embassy with Kaeshar
because this "white-collar union" is actually a capitalist option, because it means rich people will protest against themselves to get richer
wtf darvincia capitalismcapitaled
economy went up and rights went down D:
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan/censusid=62?add_nation=aeridani (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan/censusid=62?add_nation=aeridani) holykol aeripoopie
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani?censusid=27 (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani?censusid=27) holykol darvincia
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani?censusid=45 (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani?censusid=45) holykol darvincia
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/me doubly cancels embassy with Kaeshar
oh and force all my socialist/communist nations to cancel embassy with Kaeshar
because this "white-collar union" is actually a capitalist option, because it means rich people will protest against themselves to get richer
wtf darvincia capitalismcapitaled
economy went up and rights went down D:
Is confused.... but, but I equated collective barganing with socialsim and also, secretary of labor.....
Either I had a misconception about socialism/communism or the option was misleading.
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http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=bielosia+darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani+the_holy_yektonisa+blaist_blaland/censusid=62?add_nation=Ethanthova (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=bielosia+darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani+the_holy_yektonisa+blaist_blaland/censusid=62?add_nation=Ethanthova)
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=bielosia+darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani/censusid=27?add_nation=Lyintaria (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=bielosia+darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani/censusid=27?add_nation=Lyintaria)
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=bielosia+darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani/censusid=45?add_nation=Lyintaria (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=bielosia+darvincia+solea_and_rift_auspikitan+aeridani/censusid=45?add_nation=Lyintaria)
trollface?
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What are you getting at Naru?
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ns world population has been acting strangely
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dGltQ0UzVVdWazdBZEhPR1dQYk4td2c#gid=1
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Yeah, from the looks of it, NS nearly completely depopulated on July 31st. Although, did it actually completely depopulate? A bit hard to tell 100% for sure.
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Yeah, from the looks of it, NS nearly completely depopulated on July 31st. Although, did it actually completely depopulate? A bit hard to tell 100% for sure.
It didn't depopulate, the y-axis says it went down to around 209.5 million.
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i can't get anything above 5
http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/embassyOracle.aspx (http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/embassyOracle.aspx)
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Yeah, from the looks of it, NS nearly completely depopulated on July 31st. Although, did it actually completely depopulate? A bit hard to tell 100% for sure.
no there were still 209 trillion people
i think lots of huge nations have been dying off
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>"Isn't it obvious?" says Sue-Ann Washington, Darvincia's most famous trillionaire,
>trillionaire
>tax rate 92%
so how the poo did you profit 11 trillion scented kilts O_o
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>"Isn't it obvious?" says Sue-Ann Washington, Darvincia's most famous trillionaire,
>trillionaire
>tax rate 92%
so how the poo did you profit 11 trillion dollars O_o
11 trillion MONNIES
he sold all himalian nukes to me and NO.
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she's corrupt. kill her and i'll take that money off your hands for free.
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she's corrupt. kill her and i'll take that money off your hands for free.
ITS A MAN
WITH WOMAN NAME
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IT'S CORRUPT. KILL IT AND I'LL TAKE THAT MONEY OFF YOUR HANDS FOR FREE.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqXNpALRcpv9dGltQ0UzVVdWazdBZEhPR1dQYk4td2c&pli=1#gid=0
i've done a lot of statistics today and this is some of what i've found:
the average nation dissapearing brings 1.1 billion people with it; less than half of the average population (although this could be off by a lot, due to nations being refounded, which i tried to adjust for, but it's hard).
On average, 24 kallistos worth of people; about 0.8 trillion ns citizens vanish per day, and about 0.5 trillion are born
the average population has increased from 2.18 trillion in 6/9/12 to 2.39 trillion today.
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:I
4 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, crime is on the rise as DNA sampling has been all but outlawed.
1 day 16 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, crime is on the rise as DNA sampling has been all but outlawed.
First time: Increases civil lefts by 2. Second time: Doesn't change civil lefts.
...But I still wonder how the law got repealed. (*dun dun dun?*)
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Heh on this one....
I'm going for the last opton.
The Empire Strikes First?
The Issue
Reports indicate that several neighbouring nations are engaged in major weapons programs in contravention of international law and treaty, focusing public discourse on Kaeshar's foreign policy—specifically, its position on preemptive strikes.
The Debate
"We need to respond to these terrorist scumbags!" roars General Lucas du Pont, turning a slightly alarming shade of purple. "I say we announce any illegal weapons program will be treated as an act of war! The risk of harsh words turning into an endless conflict that mires our troops in far-off lands for years at a time is a small price to pay for national security! If you don't act now, these foreigners will think they can push us around forever! They must be taught a lesson, for the good of the Empire!"
Diplomatic bureaucrat Roxanne Fellow remarks calmly, "There's no need to go off half-cocked. It would be much better if we used an appropriate international body—the World Assembly, say, or a The United Pacific States tribunal—to investigate these rumours objectively for us. That way we have the international community on our side, and no one can accuse us of playing judge and jury. It will be well worth the extra diplomatic costs and bureaucratic red tape."
"If these countries don't respect international law, why would they respect international agencies?" wonders political analyst Heather Barnes. "Our neighbours are acquiring these weapons for a reason: no one wants to pick a fight with a country that has weapons of mass destruction. The solution is simple: if we have WMDs of our own, they won't dare to strike at us. It may seem mad, but in this crazy world, it's the sanest thing we could do."
Noted pacifist and tambourine artist Hack Song replies, "As usual, our nation's proud leaders can only see violent solutions to our problems abroad. Wouldn't it be refreshing if they focused on achieving peace through communication and accommodation, rather than force of arms? You may call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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Blaist Blaland would have done the same.
Dartomic, are you forgetting Nausikkak? :I
And Mattias, when will we get a comment on what happened here? (I thought the economy couldn't do something like that in very old nations actually)
And does anyone know the limit between "world benchmark" and "excessive" political freedoms?
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86 points methinks
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We were elated about the increase then blew it all on booze, drugs, and various other hedonist escapades.
But actually, I don't know I can't remember what issues there were then, but there must've been two that contributed to it. Civil rights notched up from it though so that might be an indicator as to what happened.
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we're a naughty muslim nation
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1 day 17 hours ago: Darvincia was ranked in the Top 10% of the world for Most Armed.
WHAT
WHAT THE PONY
WHAT THE PONY IS HAPPEN
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Kol. Redbow is one of the least armed (in TUPS second last after Ethanthova). It must be measuring how many guns common citizens have, and not have anything to do with the military. At least guns are only allowed in the military in Redbow.
But did you even allow your citizens to have guns or haven't you got any issue on that?
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Following new legislation in government skirts, millions of Starrie citizens are deported to Redbow in order to hijack sikkels.
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>winning against aliens
hah
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why do you want to
kill other aliens be killed by other lifeforms?
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are you asking me.
thats
bad idea.
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did yu just answer your own question.
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I don't think Kaeshar is Agressive or Expansionist.....
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official kallisto policy is to never attack first, and to be involved in only nuclear war.
meanwhile,
following some cute experiments, the vast majority of starrians are either seen wearing government-issued hazmat suits and fashionable lead skirts or dead.
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KOL
The Nomadic Peoples of Roslina and her Observatory (New. 3 days 21 hours ago)
Hell, ye fellow puppet master! I come to you from the Imperial Palace of Fandom with a deal that can shake the very supports of NationStates. At the Imperial Palace of Fandom, we have a near to impossible goal. One that can only dream to be achieved with your help. We wish to create a constant puppet flow in the region, have people puppet flood the region at all times. Why, you ask?
Because we aim to outnumber the population of any feeder region. We aim to become the largest region NS has ever seen, with more than ten thousand regions.
Impossible, you say! And I agree: impossible. Impossible if I do this on my own. That is why we at the Imperial Palace of Fandom need you. Move your puppets there or, if you do not want to do that, create puppets to move there. You don't have to keep track of them. Everytime one ceases to exist, make more! Flood the region with puppet fury! We ask you, as a fellow puppet lover, to assit us. Only with you can we break this NS record.
Two simple rules- if you flood, please TG The Mother of the Empire of Retro Lyra to tell her that you are doing so. You need to add your main nation's initials to each puppet's motto (Example: I make a nation called Greyastan and my main nation is Grey Grey. It's motto would be "I love colors. GG.").
I really, really hope to see you there. This impossible dream can only be accomplished with your help.
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not sure if *blank* or *blank* http://www.nationstates.net/nation=thorpe (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=thorpe)
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Holykol
Blapproved
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kolkute
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kol
"Now, hold on a second. What about us?" asks Wil Explodonism, the CEO of a national paper supplier. "We might not have the flash of an electronic system, but I'll tell you what we do have: quality customer service. You're saying fires are bad. Well, we hear you loud and clear. Stick with us and not only will we make physical copies of all the files to store in different locales, but I'll get my research team to whip up some fire-resistant paper too. Let's see those IT poindexters do all that!"
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"It's not our war? It's not our war?" cries (in)famous Starrie-born pooist Peter Eliot. "Well maybe it's time it became our war! Starrie should take a more active, and by 'active' I mean 'hostile', role in international politics! This ethnic squabbling will be over when the war is over, and WE can end that war and purge the impure! Calm down, deeply and unfairly oppressed peoples!! Sieg Starrie!"
oshitwut
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"Tourism Tanking!" Trumpet Tabloids
The Issue
Following a public safety disaster of unimaginable magnitude - so extreme that members of your government only mention it in hushed voices, and only then in the vaguest of terms - Kaeshar's tourism industry has hit the rocks. Commentators from all walks of life have come to your office to offer their opinions.
The Debate
"The government has to step in and do something, for once!" demands tour operator Bianca Dovey, visibly pulling her hair out. "If we'd had proper railings on the marina, that shark would never have gotten into the oil refinery in the first place! The government has to put better regulations in place to make sure disasters of this kind never happen again. And if we want to coax back the tourists we've lost, we need a whole bunch of new state-subsidised hotels, parks and tourist attractions. Shark-proof ones. Our economy will never survive without it!"
Uh, wait, what do railings have to do with keeping sharks out of oil refineries?
"Why waste more money?" grumbles middle-aged industrialist Dave Singh, chomping on a fat cigar, "Look. I'm as sorry as the next schmuck for those poor farmers' ant epidemic. But we've got to realise that tourism is just not Kaeshar's strong suit; and that's not going to change, no matter how much the state spends. Hell, if the government really wanted to do something to fix our economy, it'd be to give everyone a healthy tax-cut and get rid of some of that environmental legislation - set up for the benefit of a bunch of tree-hugging foreigners, I might add."
So what, I'll just invest in organic ant repellent.
"I think I've got another solution to this problem," says your shadiest government advisor, waving a magazine spread of bathing beauties sunning themselves at the Raptinian Grand Regent. "Now we're not goin' to be able to hide the fact that Raptinian is now covered in pink frosting, but... what if the inspectors an' tour guides an' all those types of folks just didn't notice all that mess? After all, we don't have the money to clear it all up, but I think we do have just about enough to dangle a few Fossilias in front of anyone who wants to give our nation a good review. After all, a few firm golden handshakes never hurt no-one."
Theres ALWAYS the underground, backroom deal option.
I can see the cause of the ant epidemic. Oh I know, lets have the ants clean it up for free!.
Yeah, I dismissed the issue.....
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ooh smjjames acting like nationstates is a serious game
/me labels smjjames "srspants specimen 38"
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ooh smjjames acting like nationstates is a serious game
/me labels smjjames "srspants specimen 38"
It's called joking around and using comedy :p
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I'm not playing this anymoar :/
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kolok
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inb4 iz lato union dies in 28 days
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The Issue
In recent weeks, there has been growing concern over the quality of automobiles made in Blaist Blaland. Representatives from all sides have gathered in your office and are asking you to make a decision.
The Debate
"This is ridiculous!" cries Stephanie Hernandez, chairperson of the Association of Scorned Shoppers, while frantically waving a stack of papers. "Some of these stories are just obscene! We've got water pumps ceasing at 12,000 kilometers, airbags not deploying in accidents, and this one guy's gas tank just fell off! I can't make this stuff up! Our auto industry has gotten lazy and corrupt and is in desperate need of stronger regulation!"
"I've never heard such nonsense!" scoffs Agnes de Vries, an executive representing Blaist Blaland's largest automaker. "Our cars are perfectly fine! These allegations are completely baseless. Thing is, these proposed regulations are going to make us uncompetitive. Is this what you want? Foreign cars clogging our streets while our factories close down? Get rid of some of the regulations we have now, so we can do our jobs! While you're at it, a government subsidy would safeguard domestic auto manufacturing ..."
"What is this? Subsidies? Deregulation? Lies, all of it!" shouts prominent communist Dave Sparkle, sporting a practical yet stylish red beret. "These companies, they're always willing to sell their ethics for a quick Property Note! They always cut corners for a little extra profit, and look where it's gotten us! You want to make good cars, cars the people can be proud of? Have the people take control of the car companies! If we remove the profit motive, Blaist Blaland can finally produce quality vehicles, without wasteful bourgeois stuff like chrome wheels, air conditioning, and reclining seats!"
A wheelchair-bound man wearing a bicycle helmet on his head, plaster casts on his legs, and an irate expression on his face rolls himself into your office. "Hey, I got somethin' to say," he growls as he deliberately bumps into your desk. "You and your government have been playing nice with the car companies for far too long, and a lot of us cyclists are sick of it. I might have an axe to grind, but Blaist Blaland and our environment'll be better off if you just banned cars entirely. Who cares if people complain? They'll adjust."
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kolkol
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Kol, I chose the kolmmunist option in the issue.
"60 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the nationalized auto industry is adept at making durable little cars nobody wants to drive."
But I guess it's a good thing people don't want to drive the cars. They shouldn't unless they really need to. Bicycles and kollektive transport ftw. :P
Wow it's hard to increase your economy when it's at 96. But it still went from Powerhouse to All-Consuming without changing number. Frightening is also on 96 or 97 I think.
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I just know that NS will take the one I chose to comedic extremes.
The Issue
Kaeshar has been hit with the worst drought in a hundred years; as a result thirsty citizens and a growing number of brown lawns are pleading for a government response.
The Debate
"We have no choice but to ration water," says George W. McGuffin, Chief of the Raptinian Department of Public Works. "We can't afford to let what little water we have slip through our fingers. We must clamp down on how much water each person is allowed to use. If our more wasteful citizens complain because they'll have to actually think about how much water they pour down the drain, all the better for the rest of us."
This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.
"You think too small," sighs Foreign Secretary Lara Science, between sips from a sparkling bottle of gourmet dihydrogen monoxide. "Kaeshar may be short on water, but the rest of The United Pacific States has water to spare! Why not just import the water from abroad? Sure, it'll cost money, but what's worth more to the people of Kaeshar, a little tax money or their most basic physical needs? Our neighbors wouldn't dream of cutting off the water, right?"
"This drought is a warning sign sent by our Creator!" shouts a strangely familiar-looking man who has just walked in from the desert clad in camel hair and sandals. "If this nation will only turn from its wicked ways and hearken unto our God, surely He shall grace us with water once more!"
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ALL HAIL PAUL MAUD'DIB!
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If you import it from your region, it'll boost your economy. :P
Also, I've decided to finally outline a Blaist Communist ideology. I grew unhappy with the Blaism I defined years ago and deleted it long ago on my wiki. Anyway, here it is, and inputs are welcome, both ideas for how to achieve Blaist Communism and some of the issues which should be dealt with in writing about the ideology:
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=blaist_blaland/detail=factbook/id=39987 (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=blaist_blaland/detail=factbook/id=39987)
It is important to analyze the definitions critically so they become perfect. I want "Blaist Communism" to instantly communicate exactly the society I want without any confusion, but also be short enough to describe it sufficiently in a (few) senten(ces).
And yes, "collective" control is vague in the socialist revolution, I don't have time to write more about that currently because beds are gnawing my feetsafdf
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sometimes i think we should collect blas and then format them. very collectivistic ideals.
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inb4 "ban everything except water"
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what is this water thingy.
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Squeal economy growth.
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yes matty, it'll take you a month to get to frightening and then it'll plunge back to 4/100 in 2 days.
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why does everyone want high economy
i want low economy
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we're losing the war against lemonade standists here!!
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Atomiconomy has also gone up from implosion. :o
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http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=10845864&sid=ecbff6f128b3b39bdb4cc7485e8f0190#p10845864 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=10845864&sid=ecbff6f128b3b39bdb4cc7485e8f0190#p10845864) is this nue
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"The only deity this country needs is the one it already has, master," says Emmanuel Syme, one of your creepier advisers while obsequiously bowing on the floor. "I of course refer to you, Mikkel Sikkel, the finest ruler any humble subject could hope to have! We long to worship you and do your bidding! Some call that a cult of personality, but I prefer to call it... love."
Ohyesohyesohyes
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kolkol
wait, you have creepy advisers?
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Oshi- there is such a thing as FULL INBOXES
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wat
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hey bla, are heterosexuals in red rainbow considered "anti-gay" even if they are fine with gay people
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...........Nouu........ Not at all......... I don't think...
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If they are congrats on population in 20 years.
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Well, no, they aren't considered antigay. :P
But there may be certain bans on straight marriage, spreading straight propaganda and building straight roads and such. jk.
As for population, I'm sure the gays and lesbians could cooperate somehow until our genetic technology is... Kolplete.
Also, remember, there's a constant, high immigration rate from all the countries where gays are repressed.
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kolok that is good
because otherwise darvincian relations with red rainbow: -25
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This
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Holykol Bielosia
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downdowndown wait, was that done in like, one day? And on purpose?
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I keep wondering how nations can be so "specialized" while not seeming to respond to any issues. Did they just answer the initial questions on making the nation and then got this result or what? If it ever answered any issues, I would assume that the three graphs would have changed somewhen.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=fatatatutti (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=fatatatutti)
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kol
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http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=189394&start=50 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=189394&start=50)
i think i might stay up all night reading this thread
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Vote Workers' Liberation Front! :)
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=200937 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=200937)
Kol
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KOLOK
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LONG LIFE TO WLF! :P
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Coat of blarms.
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kolok
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Coat of blarms.
Blat of Corms.
HEY, LET'S PUT SOME IMAGES OF THIS ON AERIDANI!!!11!1
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sometimes i don't know why bla made a square shaped coat. with no arm holes.
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I don't either. I was considering making it not really rectangle. But I also wanted the star with starburst rays. And the bottom of the image stops sort of abruptly so it needed a base. So I made a frame around it all. :I
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i was joking. coat as in the clothing item :P
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I got an e-mail about the impending blapocalypse in Nausikkak. Logged in and did the issues.
Btw, maybe we should make it capitalist instead of socialist? It would probably fit all of our views from long ago better, correct? Since it was the old nation ours formed from, it'd make more sense imo, and also gives us more reason to have revolted against it.
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sometimes i think you should make it lowercasist
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and also gives us more reason to have revolted against it.
Not really you'd think a revolution or a reform in the whole government and stuff would take it over rather than divide into 3 nations.
Also Solea wasn't ever capitalist. It doesn't have to have anything to do with what our views were before.
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If it were an armed revolution, it seems likely that it could only take control of some part of the nation, especially if it's big, often support levels for governments or resistance forces are different in different areas of countries, like in the recent Libya war where the government had more support in the western part. If the west hadn't attacked them, maybe the revolts wouldn't have been able to take over the western part.
But ok whatever if the nations weren't capitalist.
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sometimes i think global moderators are an armed revolution
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well i've put all my nations in vacation mode, but yeah, i still need to login once in a while them, and i just got 60 emails about apocalypse.
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Kol.
It was the apolcalypse of the e-mail server.
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Redbowish anthem kolfinished.
Anthem of The Glorious Armed Proletariat of The Land of the Red Rainbow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhykLWOl5Ac#ws)
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KOLOK.
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btw is that image in the beginning your face?
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Not usually.
It's some random things I drew in GIMP long ago edited and then edited again.
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KOLYES
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=holykol/detail=economy (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=holykol/detail=economy)
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COMMUNISM!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Fix'd
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Communism more like lolunism
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Wheeeeeeeee top 1%!
Inb4 OCTOPI BLAIST BLALAND WE'RE THE 99% NATIONS oshi-
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Wheeeeeeeee top 1%!
Inb4 OCTOPI BLAIST BLALAND WE'RE THE 99% NATIONS oshi-
BLA WE SHOULD CELEBRATE
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2qnsewl.jpg)
It's like getting exam results in the mail or something.
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Kol, kolgratulations.
Oh dear FSM poor you people who live in USA.
Maybe if I wrote a Romney/Ryan fic people would stop writing it in their sigs?
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do it Bla
Do it do it do it
also "The United Pacific States contains 16 nations, the 666th most in the world."
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do it Bla
Do it do it do it
kol yes
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kol
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(http://i45.tinypic.com/1zf23gx.jpg)
TND phone wallpaper
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this related to NS= ?%
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Tri-National Dominion is my alt nation
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oci
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is this tru for redbow:
Darvince i wonder if heterosexual sex is allowed in red|bow
matty406 Nobody must procreate
Darvince kol matty
matty406 only IVF
matty406 If any penis touches any vagina it's off to gulag
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For those (aka Kip) who want to suck data from NS maybe this is useful.
http://www.nationstates.net/pages/api.html (http://www.nationstates.net/pages/api.html)
also news.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=news (http://www.nationstates.net/page=news)
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meanwhile in redbow...
"the gulag's produced some mighty fine scientists"
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Wut no Redbow has no gulags.
It has kolag.
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KOL
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Kol the OP in this thread. Probably the most stupidly and ignorantly written piece of national arrogance I've seen in a while, hard to tell if it's a joke or not.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=208045&f=20 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=208045&f=20)
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china and mongolia should merge so ponies can be made in china
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bla: scowering for ignorance and hate on nsforum since 2012
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kolok
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nolife.png
i'm at the top 0.5% kol
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uhhh
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top 1% of the top 1% kol
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amazon, call of duty!!
buy it buy it
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Basics of what future Ethanthova's AMBA armour system is.
(http://i50.tinypic.com/15yuipt.jpg)
Mosly integrated HUD into an all-covering armoured helmet, with raisable visors for normal vision, ect.
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how do you craft that? iron blockception.
and the engines. that must've been a hard mod to make...
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Future Ethanthova, the economy heals and they decide to make a failsafe investment in a solid military. :P
It's all in the Fic Thread II about the AMBER project.
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Working on how Ethanthova works:
Housing: The government works to make sure everyone has their own space to live in some way or another, be it apartments of houses. With access to the TV network, the internet maintained by the public ISP with a strict 'hands off' policy on the data that goes through it.
Education: free to access but is a commitment and flunking out just makes you look bad and wastes the teacher's time (Similar with the military but stronger regulations).
Food: available freely, with a maximum limit, and what is available depends on the current economic climate ('luxury' items at the time in question may be priced).
These are your basics to live and have fun. It's up to the individual if they decide to work or get schooling, getting income allows them to add onto their basics when they get paid. I'll need to sort something out about taxing for these additional modules, but I'm too tired to right now.
How the TND works:
"GET A JOB, BUM" *shot in the legs*
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so basically TND is a third world nation
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Housing
Housing is provided based on needs and plans, and you can basically choose to live anywhere. (this is really bad but um i might work it out better later)
Internet
Free access to internal Amalthean International Network (AIN) as well as the international public internet is available to everyone as they all have Personal Handheld Multi-Devices issued by the Soleani government. This is also available to everyone visiting SKA, and in fact the PHMs are mandatory as they contain your passport. PHMs are returned if you leave the country (as a visitor in SKA).
Education
Education is provided through the AIN on PHMs. The AIN contains a directory of inventions, processes, and anything like that which may be useful for means of production, personal or otherwise, and for other personal purposes. (Example: How a transistor works, how to build a transistor, current uses of transistors... Gravitation, Laws of gravitation, formulae involving gravitation... Algebra, Calculus, etc.,....)
Transporation
Monorails can be boarded by scanning the barcode with your PHM when entering (for tracking usage/traffic purposes). Many different monorail lines run through the nation (and even into eastern WAP and all of NP), guaranteeing fast travel in western Amalthea.
Food
Food "rations" are allotted to people and tracked with the use of PHMs. You are allowed certain amounts of food groups with personalized plans (biological as well as what you prefer to eat) which can be traded out by request.
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How Ezheatio works:
Housing: The government works to make sure everyone has their own space to live in some way or another, be it apartments of houses. With access to the TV network, the internet maintained by the public ISP with a strict 'hands off' policy on the data that goes through it.
Education: free to access but is a commitment and flunking out just makes you look bad and wastes the teacher's time (Similar with the military but stronger regulations).
Food: available freely, with a maximum limit, and what is available depends on the current economic climate ('luxury' items at the time in question may be priced).
These are your basics to live and have fun. It's up to the individual if they decide to work or get schooling, getting income allows them to add onto their basics when they get paid. I'll need to sort something out about taxing for these additional modules, but I'm too tired to right now.
How The Free Lands of Free Freedom works:
*enters TFLFF* *make everything than you want* *kan't go off*
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(http://i49.tinypic.com/9a9sf7.jpg)
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your nation is getting to the age where it starts collectnig top 1% stuff
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welp i can't collect top 1% stuff but i can collect top 0.5% of 1% no life prize :P
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TND soldier guy
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2m2z34i.jpg)
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wut is even
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(http://i45.tinypic.com/zn8yv.jpg)
Because Fiah noted that it wouldn't have much application in a war environment.
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what about graphite fields
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they attach pencils to the uniform
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make him holding a mine
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make him holding the lotus of all knowledge
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locus not lotus
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make him holding a mine
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kallisto is in the process of being downsized to 40 nations. suggestions for nation names are welcome.
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Just name them 'one' to 'forty'.
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Eka
Ela
Eba
Ena
Exa
Era
Eca
Name them one to forty, all in different languages
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eka-vatallus
eka-celestial conception
eka-praetiam
eka-starrie
eka-seraphia
eka-lumein
eka-distortialis
eka-katropsis
eka-iapkiar
also exa-all of the above
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RIP THUPS
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anyway i made a nation 'Ekacon' with nue's suggestions, bringing kallisto to 40 nations. I'm steering towards an oppressive socialist government, and i plan on having all 80 issues answered each day
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the contemporary flag of aerilosia:
(http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/rflags/the_realm_of_aerilosia__800451.png)
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Verynajs yes
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the border between the blue and the strips is a bit meh, but otherwise, i liek
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in another life the nation is USA
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Thirteen stripes that represent what? :O
I thought it had 13 stripes because it was unlucky
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The Supreme Realm of Starrie is a massive, economically powerful nation, ruled by Mudkip with an iron fist, and remarkable for its sprawling nuclear power plants. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 2.002 billion are ruled by a mostly-benevolent dictator, who grants the populace the freedom to live their own lives but watches carefully for anyone to slip up.
It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt government stops and the rest of society begins, but it concentrates mainly on Defence, although Law & Order and Commerce are on the agenda. It meets every day to discuss matters of state in the capital city of Starrie City. The average income tax rate is 51%. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Arms Manufacturing industry, followed by Retail and Uranium Mining.
The police force is rumoured to be made up of evil shadows with no souls, a vast monorail network carries people all over the country, the government regularly hires contractors to construct high rise apartments, and the country's famous rainforests are being bulldozed by the mining industry. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is moderate. Starrie's national animal is the Astronaut, which is also the nation's favorite main course, its national religion is Explodonism, and its currency is the Stardust.
hmm not bad, the tax rate is going up as expected.
in other news:
if you haven't already seen this too many times like matty has you might want to take a look: http://zoom.it/svVQ#full (http://zoom.it/svVQ#full)
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what color is himalia
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http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=212997&p=12002532#p12002532 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=212997&p=12002532#p12002532)
i have found a swonx
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SHIT THUPS HAS BEEN TAKEN AGAIN
http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_historical_united_pacific_states (http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_historical_united_pacific_states)
MOVE ETHANTHOVA KAESHAR HOLYKOL TO THUPS AND ENDORE SNAVWXNIIK-NAKWN
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http://www.nationstates.net/page=list_regions/sort=pop (http://www.nationstates.net/page=list_regions/sort=pop)
omfg a non-feeder has invadered the top ten
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lol that region was the largest one a while ago its dying now
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no you
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holyshit ns challenge is still going
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why aren't you in the united pacific states
it's dying and needs people :(
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The average income tax rate is 69%, and even higher for the wealthy.
high-income earners pay a 100% tax rate
sjadkflajs;kd it is working.
edit: lolwut, then the 'wealthy' are actually poorer because of the taxes :p
edit edit: unless they have some screw up tax bracket system like irl.
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For neutrality.
http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_amalgamate (http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_amalgamate)
If anyone wants to do some serious roleplaying and stuff... Join this. It's still under construction (because people need to join). I'm not sure how it would work specifically, so suggest stuff or let it be created as we go along. Maybe there should be a forum for events and relations and stuff or, who knows.
Notes: It would work best if people didn't know which nation(s) you are playing as.
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Ok, but the nations will be like they're on nation states? Like, if I have 1 kazilion of people there I'll have 1 kazilion in the roleplay? If yes I'm don't joining
Note: I'm actually not a fiah. I'm other ppl.
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It doesn't say anywhere for tech. At best, it means a HRE system; factions of nations trying to get the most powerful status.
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Ok, but the nations will be like they're on nation states? Like, if I have 1 kazilion of people there I'll have 1 kazilion in the roleplay? If yes I'm don't joining
Note: I'm actually not a fiah. I'm other ppl.
No, but NationStates will be the main hub/center point or whatever for it.
And by the HRE do you mean HRE tech level? If so I'm not going to be that interested.
No, there's no specific tech decided. Somewhere around 1960-now probably.
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ok smjjames
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ok smjjames
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Ok, we must join with new nations yeah? Kause I don't like of the idea of people taking old/good nations and puttin there
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Yes.
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Oooh! This looks fun! :-* I love role playing.
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ok smjjames
actually it's kalassak
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Kol I can tell miyasha is fiah from the word "patriotic" in the motto
Darvince is banana from the fact that he joined right after darvincia left the region
I know who kalassak is from the irc and metastan is probably hellpotatoe by elimination as no one else has seen this topic yet
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Aeridanish commercials
DollarShaveClub.com - Our Blades Are F***ing Great (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUG9qYTJMsI#ws)
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Kol I can tell miyasha is fiah from the word "patriotic" in the motto
Darvince is banana from the fact that he joined right after darvincia left the region
I know who kalassak is from the irc and metastan is probably hellpotatoe by elimination as no one else has seen this topic yet
So you are saying only Americans are patriotic??? You are just a classic example of ignorant Americans then.
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no but aeridani is strongly linked to nationalism an patriotism added on to the fact that you posted in this topic about the role play region makes me think mishaya is fiah
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"Darvince is banana from the fact that he joined right after darvincia left the region"
nop
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ok mommy im just saying anonymity is a not working imo
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no but aeridani is strongly linked to nationalism an patriotism added on to the fact that you posted in this topic about the role play region makes me think mishaya is fiah
What's "aeridani"? I think I've heard a little about it but I have not been lurking for that long. And when you're addressing me you'd be better off saying "you're Fiah" than "Mishaya is Fiah" as if we're talking about someone else here.
Also I'm assuming "Fiah" is "FiahOwl", right?
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no fiah is Darvince and aeridani is smjjames's nation
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my nation is reiyii
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no fiah is Darvince and aeridani is smjjames's nation
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"Aeridani" is my nation
I'm a little confused now?
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no fiah is Darvince and aeridani is smjjames's nation
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"Aeridani" is my nation
I'm a little confused now?
Mission Accomplished
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Oh, okay. Goodnight ;D it's after 3:00 here in the Netherlands :)
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your personal text didn't say Netherlands before but ok
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It said lord of something before
I don't have proof but I don't care if you don't believe me
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Guys brace yourselves but have you considered new people joining the forum as a possibility
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no that must never happen, it is impossible!
although i remember when mudkipz tried to pin hellpotatoe's existence on fiah or me
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Hey I still haven't ruled it out yet!
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wait WTH Darvince or whoever how did you get nuecest to CTE in 4 minutes did you curse a lot and spam to forums or something?
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magics.
actually apparently ns doesn't like "cest" as part of the nation name
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Ok, we must join with new nations yeah? Kause I don't like of the idea of people taking old/good nations and puttin there
hi hellpotatoe
WHY? D:
Kol I can tell miyasha is fiah from the word "patriotic" in the motto
Darvince is banana from the fact that he joined right after darvincia left the region
I know who kalassak is from the irc and metastan is probably hellpotatoe by elimination as no one else has seen this topic yet
oh, I'll keep my nation anonymous.
no that must never happen, it is impossible!
although i remember when mudkipz tried to pin hellpotatoe's existence on fiah or me
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uh, when we login at the forum thing (http://theamalgamate.createaforum.com/) people will recognize we bekause our way to talk. thats sad :/
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just remove all insatnces of "of" in your text ad youll be fone :p
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uh, when we login at the forum thing (http://theamalgamate.createaforum.com/) people will recognize we bekause our way to talk. thats sad :/
Not if you speak normal English
I of can of find of you of only of by of you of way of of of write of
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"I can find you only by you way of write"
correct is:
"I can find you only by the way you write"
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and I was goin' to put your, not you :P
My english errors occur bekause I translate portuguese phrases instead of build english ones
like:
"pelo seu jeito de escrever"
"by your way of write"
the
"by the way you write"" would be
"pelo jeito que você escreve", and both are correct to me :/
I'll try to get english classes sometime in the future, maybe
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I'll try to get english classes sometime in the future, maybe
I'm sure there's stuff online, not to mention, surely just being here talking with us helps?
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I'll try to get english classes sometime in the future, maybe
I'm sure there's stuff online, not to mention, surely just being here talking with us helps?
Well, idk why but I can't learn very well with this online things :P
I'll try 'em later
Yeah, this year my english have reached a new level. I only wanna get (or take?) english lessons to learn things like this
"I can find you only by you way of write"
correct is:
"I can find you only by the way you write"
*cough*derrailed topik*cough*
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I don't think you'd need lessons, your English is broken but its nothing huge, just things like the ordering of your words, and sole tiny vocabulary errors.
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well, the online lessons are free, I can deal with 'em
I hate the fact that portuguese is so different from english D:
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well, the online lessons are free, I can deal with 'em
I hate the fact that portuguese is so different of english D:
different from
:P
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I'll make a thread to people put my gramatical errors,
motive: I wanna learn :P
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I don't think you'd need lessons, your English is broken but its nothing huge, just things like the ordering of your words, and sole tiny vocabulary errors.
"of"
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Today we mourn the loss of the greatest embassy power, Planet X.
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eh it can still be saved, if the embassies all cancel, however, i will happily redo the big embassies map to see what changed
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protip: kallisto is controlled by a python script since a few months
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Fiah, DRM is implementations that attempt to halt piracy and sharing. Like how Spore could only install on one computer then locked up unless it was put in the same computer. also I'm going to fill this in.
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I know I just noticed the smiley ad I was putting my answers.
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Does the government have the right to regulate the Internet? Is capable, but doesn't
Does the government monitor the Internet? No
Does the government spy on the activities of individual Internet users? No
Does the government censor the Internet? No
Does the government have the right to prosecute people for online activities? No, unless the activity has had a large scale effect in the real world that can be linked to the original activity. Such as an online threat actually being attempted or carried out.
Does the government hold a monopoly on Internet access? No
Is the government able to revoke a person's right to Internet access? Is capable, but doesn't.
Does the government have the right to view a person's online private correspondence? If so, is a warrant required? No, only by personal agreement is the government able to see a person's private data.
What are your nation's copyright laws? How are they enforced with regards to the Internet? Copyright credits the creator and any contributing parties. The only way a copyright can be breached is by earning some form of economic or personal gain from another's copyrighted work. The root origins of a work must be easily accessible to anyone utilising a deriative.
Do Internet users have the right to remain anonymous? Yes
Is the government able to force ISPs to reveal who is behind a specific IP address? No, the government is the ISP. In any case, this would be an absolute last resort.
Is the government allowed to shut off Internet service to broad portions of the population, or shut off the internet entirely? Is capable, but doesn't
Are bloggers allowed to share their opinions, free from fear of repercussions? Yes
Do people have the right to do as they please with devices that they have purchased? Yes, within reason. (Eg, modifying a device to be harmful or disruptive to other devices or people)
Do users have the right to remove DRM technology from devices that they have purchased? Yes, considering the device has a system in place
Do users have the freedom to write code and share it as they please? Yes (As long as the code is not harmful or ridiculously disruptive to a device)
Do users have the right to "hack/jailbreak" (make unauthorized modifications to) devices that they own? Yes, with the same considerations as the above two.
Does the government regulate acceptable uses of technology? Nope
What is the status of code patents in your nation? Code is harder to claim, if it can be changed, someone can attribute it to their self, even if they're not the original coder. Therefore, it is down to the root creator to have evidence in place, in the form of backups or visual images, in the case a dispute arises. File metadata is also applicable as evidence.
Some notes, a 'fair and square' policy for cracking, ripping, and otherwise acquiring a virtual item through subversive means, is in place. you should've protected your shit better. This is assuming the data wasn't personal details or anything belonging to another person on any data storage they own, then it's an illegial hacking case
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random forum topic: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=12416688#p12416688 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=12416688#p12416688)
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kol
on ns, rannbows's gold bit has narrowly edged out the $2 = 1 gold bit mark
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The Supreme Realm of Starrie is a massive, economically powerful nation, ruled by vh with an iron fist, and notable for its sprawling nuclear power plants. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 2.194 billion are ruled by a mostly-benevolent dictator, who grants the populace the freedom to live their own lives but watches carefully for anyone to slip up.
It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt government stops and the rest of society begins, but it is mainly concerned with Defence, although Law & Order and Commerce are on the agenda. It meets every day to discuss matters of state in the capital city of Nexum. The average income tax rate is 73%, and even higher for the wealthy. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Arms Manufacturing industry, followed by Retail and Information Technology.
Citizens have reported seeing strange rays of light emanating from the moon, scenic tours are unheard of after most environmental laws were abolished, the nation's drinking water tends to glow green at night, and droves of former desperados are applying to join the border police. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is relatively low, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. Starrie's national animal is the Darv, which is also the nation's favorite main course, its national religion is Explodonism, and its currency is the Bit.
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yes the moon is being lit up by darvincian icbms
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Here, enjoy my boredom.
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Ethanthova and TND MBTs comparison.
(http://i.imgur.com/VeEW3.png)
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Finally. :)
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Kol bla
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inb4 that's 99.9 not 100
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The Issue
A brother and sister, Jack and Jill, went to apply for a marriage license today, causing a stir among the populace and many media outlets.
The Debate
"We just want to get married!" Jill yells to a nearby reporter. "What exactly is wrong with a brother and a sister getting married? Who are we hurting?!" adds Jack, defensively. "The government should just butt out of marriage. It's not their business who or what we marry."
"M-m-married?!" stammers John Rubin, head of Gaytheism. "You want to desecrate the most holy and sacred union of marriage by allowing SIBLINGS to marry each other? Are you mad?! Those who are related must be forbidden from even loving each other, let alone marriage - it's shameful! They should be punished for this abomination! Oh, and while we're at it, we should ensure that every marriage is regulated by Gaytheism. Just in case something this sinful should ever come up again, of course."
Must..... resist......... the temptation........... to click................
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You know that if you click you will make Gay marriage be illegal causing a contradiction, right?
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Yeah that'll make same sex marriage illegal and knock down your civil rights as well
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I didn't click it either. Nonsensically enough clicking the first option means "inter-species marriages are ignored by the government". Well at least I would assume Jack and Jill were of the same species when they're siblings. Misleading much.
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I think NS is made to confuse
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Ha vh, we have invented the 100%!
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Ha vh, we have invented the 100%!
OMB
OH MY BLA!
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!!!
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naic
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(http://i45.tinypic.com/35id98o.jpg)
In ye olde dayes of NS thredde, I drew Mattias Drake. Here he is in my style now.
Left is mid '12 (June) and right is early '13 (Jan)
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whys he nakedd
went swimming in aeridani i guess
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whys he nakedd
went swimming in aeridani i guess
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what the fiah?
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You didn't dismiss it though...
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looks like stuffhappens wants to cheat!!!!
what.
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looks like stuffhappens wants to cheat!!!!
what.
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looks like stuffhappens wants to cheat!!!!
what.
he's mocking bong
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Yes, finally... 100 economy, iron fist socialist. Redbow's goal is almost completed when we get rid of that gigantic private sector and ban capitalism.
4 hours ago: The Land of the Red Rainbow was reclassified from "Corrupt Dictatorship" to "Iron Fist Socialists".
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nice.
ot: what happened to the amalgamate
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nice.
ot: what happened to the amalgamate
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nice.
ot: what happened to the amalgamate
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(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/888365/NS/Aeridani.PNG)
!!!
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Huh?
Why Fiah? And why did you stop SKA, Atomic, btw?
Edit: It reappeared, apparently.
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Inactivity probably, deleted makes it sound like the nation was taken down by the user but it's just been pruned by the site.
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i changed SKA's password kip keeps it alive lol
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yeah aeridani was 'pruned from the site'
(http://i.imgdiode.com/TkAZGf.png)
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I know it's because of inactivity, but I'm wondering why people lost interest in doing the issues.
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because after like 90 days it's the same 310 issues over and over again
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well i run a script to answer issues because i get bored of answering questions
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because after like 90 days it's the same 310 issues over and over again
and the options/lack of questions don't fit well with what i'd like my nation to be like
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i got bored of answering before did all 327 :P
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I know it's because of inactivity, but I'm wondering why people lost interest in doing the issues.
because after like 90 days it's the same 310 issues over and over again
and the options/lack of questions don't fit well with what i'd like my nation to be like
i got bored of answering before did all 327 :P
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Agreed, but I think seeing the stats on your nation change counters it.
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Kol, I prefer create my nation as I like...
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My nation. :)
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nice.
ok only darvincia and starrie have never cte'd out of the usf nations that joined on 4/1/2012 (405 days).
also it's helpful to know that trend graph history lasts 728 days and ethanthova is 726 days old
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hi tutono
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one of the advantages of having 40 nations is that you run through all 320+ issues every 4 days and then some more and find out about new ones
anyways issues 326 and 327 have been added a few weeks ago. 328 just recently. this is issue 328
A naval frigate from Betalphatopia was recently ambushed by a rival navy in the international waters of Kallisto. Security analysts have admitted that faulty intelligence was to blame and are now insisting that something be done to prevent a situation like this happening again.
The Debate
"The best way to gain accurate intelligence is when it's in transit," says Josh Wilson, a communications technician from the BSA, while hunched over a computer. "Think of the information the Betalphatopia Security Agency could get from telephone calls, emails, radio chatter, even internet browsing history! All we would need are satellites, servers, algorithms, and quality mathematicians to intercept them. It might be costly, but you don't want another embarrassing incident, do you?"
Accept
"We don't need to spend so much money on technology when we can rely on manpower," says Director Natalia Trax, head of the Betalphatopia Intelligence Agency, while putting on a pair of black shades. "Can a computer gain a leader's trust? Can a telephone stop a terrorist? We need inside men around every foreign diplomat, general and guerrilla this side of Kallisto!"
Accept
"Speaking of inside men…" says an unnamed secret service agent, stepping out of the shadows, "How do we know they haven't infiltrated our intelligence services? Think about it, how else would they know our plans and convoy routes? Spies and insurgents -- now they are the real problem; a problem I can get rid of if you let me launch a secret investigation with, eh, secret results.
Accept
"I know of a cheaper option," says your intern, lifelessly scrolling through whistleblowing site KwikiLeaks. "Why bother spending so much on the intelligence services here, when whistleblowers from others are posting all their information online? You could just set up some 'game rooms' for bored, tech-savvy kids. Make a game out of finding useful electronic intelligence and reward them with pizza or something."
Accept
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starrie became a moralistic democracy with 80% tax rate and 40% public sector also somehow my civil and political rights went up and good my death rate due to old age is 8%. *runs screaming*
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good god you're turning into sweden
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yes i need dictator rehab
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Kolyes, finally Blaist Blaland also. We can see communism glittering in the horizon already.
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Economy though i don't even know how you keep the political and civil rights stable while building up a strong economy.
Is it only through tax issues?
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A guideline is to invest in sport and culture. Tax issues afaIk don't really seem to affect the economic strength from my experience.
You can check this, but it doesn't list new issues.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kVvk-F8KYaoWMCXELe5T8WMewWCWF_tKGAjem-ZYqRg/edit?hl=en&pli=1
I don't have a problem with the political freedoms, they actually seem to get too high for Blaist Blaland all the time. Civil rights on the other hand often ristrict me from answering issues how I would actually respond to them if I just went with my own opinion, but it's rarely in the economic issues, except some about property rights.
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A guideline is to invest in sport and culture. Tax issues afaIk don't really seem to affect the economic strength from my experience.
You can check this, but it doesn't list new issues.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kVvk-F8KYaoWMCXELe5T8WMewWCWF_tKGAjem-ZYqRg/edit?hl=en&pli=1
I don't have a problem with the political freedoms, they actually seem to get too high for Blaist Blaland all the time. Civil rights on the other hand often ristrict me from answering issues how I would actually respond to them if I just went with my own opinion, but it's rarely in the economic issues, except some about property rights.
Hm, I will use this.
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handy
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I see what you did there, Nausikkak. I see it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausica%C3%A4_of_the_Valley_of_the_Wind_(film))
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I see what you did there, Nausikkak. I see it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausica%C3%A4_of_the_Valley_of_the_Wind_(film))
OMFB
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Holykol.
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Nausikkak != Nausicaa thingies
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66 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Ethanthova, politicians are often found scavenging bins at night to supplement their income.
Political freedom goes down
goes down
down
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Wut, when I did that in Redbow once, the political freedoms went up. :x
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ns is trol
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a report on the zombie invasion
well the united pacific states is doing well, having distributed it's zombie cure with only around 2 billion casualties
(http://i.snag.gy/CabmD.jpg)
himalia is holding out by killing all zombies - the strategy seems to be working for the moment
(http://i.snag.gy/RW2e1.jpg)
kallisto is doing fine and has an even lower infection rate than tups
(http://i.snag.gy/AvLQL.jpg)
hey lets see how it's going in blala-
(http://i.snag.gy/8h8pG.jpg)
shit shit shit shit shit
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Haha! :D
Zombies in Tutono were completely exterminated 3 hours ago.
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if anyone has a nation with infected zombies please export them to kallisto i need more http://www.nationstates.net/region=kallisto (http://www.nationstates.net/region=kallisto)
thanks
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Oh well
Going to try to exterminate them now.
Better than succumbing to fascism at least.
Redbow is doing good.
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does this actually really affect your population?
so you could have like, 0 people??????
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No, it's April fools. Also it says:
"Note: Dead citizens will be revived once the zombie apocalypse is over."
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ohyeah *hoof*
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(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/888365/NS/zombos.PNG)
all zombies reverted, zero deaths. Roll the anthem.
I am my country (highland cathedral) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YISinxrIc84#)
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I don't know why a lot of people suffered a lot from the apocalypse when I suffered a minimal amount.
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because you are in tups which had most of the everything else community very active in curing the zombie disease. most other regions weren't so active or people were asleep. if you go to the pacific or a large region which has not been treated, your nation will experience inevitable invasion rapidly.
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"1 minute ago: Ethanthova approved the World Assembly proposal "Condemn Horrible Zombies"."
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kol
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LWU
Left-Wing Utopia
CRL
Civil Rights Lovefest
ANA
Anarchy
SLP
Scandinavian Liberal Paridise
LCS
Left-Leaning College State
CAP
Capitalizt
IFS
Iron-Fist Socialists
LPS
Libertarian Police State
BND
Benevolent Dictatorship
LDS
Liberal Democratic Socialists
NYT
New York Times Democracy
COR
Corporate Bordello
DSO
Democratic Socialists
ICD
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
CPD
Capitalist Paridise
CRD
Corrupt Dictatorship
FKB
Father Knows Best State
CCS
Compulsory Consumerist State
TBM
Tyranny by Majority
COD
Conservative Democracy
FMP
Free Market Paridise
AUD
Authoritarian Democracy
MOD
Moralistic Democracy
RWU
Right-Wing Utopia
PCD
Psychotic Dictatorship
IFC
Iron-Fist Consumerists
CPS
Corporate Police State
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i like how only your tumblr bookmark is coded
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budapest
although i think it's pronounced boo-duh-pesht
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budapest
although i think it's pronounced boo-duh-pesht
its "boo-dah-pest" around here
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in hungarian it is boo-duh-pesht
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_alphabet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_alphabet)
s /ʃ/
sz /s/
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data on how your stats affect issues
incomplete
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Y axis is a multiplier to issue strength and x axis is what? Economy?
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for example, when you're at 99 economy, it's hard to advance to 100, and thats what the graph represents. however when you're at 50 economy it's easy to go up or down. which is why x = 50 is higher than x = 90 (or it should be)
i did this by making a bunch of bot nations and recording all their choices and results and then applying regression to figure this out. obviously this graph has a lot of noise and it's badly calculated. i did this with a built in least squares method for linear regression on python which didn't work too well (i had values from 0 to 10^10^15) because the system is undetermined or something . I'm trying qr decomposition to solve the system better but i haven't figured it out yet
so yeah hopefully i can show a prettier graph soon
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(http://i.imgur.com/UtzFqgX.png)
graph of the effects of issues
x-axis: starting value
y-axis: value of change from decision
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So one issue can get your economy from 0 to 75? Kol
Or from pretty much 80 to 0.
Bubble sizes show the number of times the change has happened I assume.
Maybe nation age/population should be taken into account? I have a suspicion that it affects issue strength as well (decreasing over time), but I'm not sure.
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yes and good idea
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Kolyes, finally back to grade A communism in Blaist Blaland. The lemonade stands have been defeated.
Meanwhile, 100 economy is still a thing and so is 196 income equality. :P
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"Matagorda is ranked 1st in The United States of America and 1st in the world for Most Authoritarian, with 6,418,452,905.433 Stalins."
Holykol, there must be more Stalins in their government office than there are people living in the entire rest of the country!
Some interesting calculations on the Stalin density of the top 5 most authoritarian nations:
1: 6,418,452,905.433 Stalins (population: 9,000,000). Stalin density = 713 Stalins pr. person!*
2: 14,464,821.724 Stalins (population: 444,000,000). Stalin density = 3.26% of people are clones of Stalin
3: 14,464,821.724 Stalins (population: 460,000,000). Stalin density = 3.14% of people are clones of Stalin
4: 14.551 Stalins (population: 4,480,000,000). Stalin density = 0.000000325% of people are clones of Stalin
5: 14.551 Stalins (population: 6,170,000,000). Stalin density = 0.000000236% of people are clones of Stalin
* In 1, it is for obvious reasons assumed that the Stalins do not contribute to the population count, unlike the situation in the other countries.
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kol yeah i'm pretty sure it's a glitch
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=247044 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=247044)
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So close!
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meanwhile in blaland, scientists are rushing to discover the number 200
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"We know there has to be a number over 199. Some people say it might be '200', but it's a wild guess at most"
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Kol, I would have done the same.
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Sometime when I get time, I should maybe update the Blaist NS GDP calc to use these four factors:
1: Economy (obviously)
2: Civil rights (Idk how this should affect the economy yet, ideas are welcome)
3: Political freedom (same as 2)
4: Time (my idea is to use the date as a purely random factor in the calculation)
The reason for adding 2 and 3 are to make the economy look more varied on the graph rather than simply a steady, infinite growth if you simply reach 100. That makes graphs look boring. 2 and 3 should have a small effect compared to 1 for obvious reasons.
My idea would be that the optimal values would be in the middle of the "world benchmark" area. Maybe there should be a positive spike at very low values as well?
4 could be used to "simulate" market cycles, periods of fast growth and slow/negative growth in all economies. Socialist nations could have the option to turn this off to have a more stable growth. It could also be used to create random noise in the values, by using maybe sin(time) or cos(time) in a way that would create totally random numbers to modify the growth by say +/- 5% every day.
As far as I know, 1, 2 and 3 are the only factors that NS keeps storing after they change. I don't want to include other factors because it would make it too much of a mess to update. If NS keeps track of any other factors, I'd like to know.
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ns stores past values for civil pol and economy, but only the last numbers are used in each days calculation (according to some admin). there are some hidden flags and stuff but afaik none of the stats are stored for multiple days.
also you could use the size of the public sector to determine how large if a factor the sin thing is.
capitalist countries get a tan multiplier instead :)
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Aeridanish Oatmeal Embargo Act of 614
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SadKol (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_bloodbow_kollektive/detail=factbook/id=160416) Pain Theory graph. SadKol will be the official ideology of The Bloodbow Kollektive. Less productive, but more sadist, than Gaytheism. >:D
(http://i.imgdiode.com/H1MHfk.png)
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interesting. is the scale linear? if it is then i assume the pain curves are exponential?
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interesting. is the scale linear? if it is then i assume the pain curves are exponential?
The scales are linear yes. I'm not sure exactly how pain works but this would be my best guess.
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After much contemplation, the kolkolkol pain theory has been developed
the kolkolkol pain theory uses pain functions to maximize pain.
the pain equations are
paintorture = T*[d^xt+fc^xl]+t
painlabor = L*[c^xl+gd^xt]+l
where t,l are the asymptotic minimum pains caused by torture and labor, T and L is the difference between the minimum and maximum pain or labor and d and c are the decay rates of torture pain and labor pain respectively. xl and xt are the years that have been already spent in labor or turture, f and g are constants.
note that tolerance of labor and torture is additive, this is demonstrated when the initial red rainbow torture is less painful than bloodbow torture, (if it was multiplicative, the pain should be the same, but it isn't.)
Pain seldom happens simultaneously. Instead, by observing bloodbow charts, we can see that a life can be split into phases, each being a type torture or labor. The equations for the total pain given by a phase is described below.
phasepaintorture = ∫ {T*[d^(xt+xp)+fc^xl]+t} dxp from xp = [0,xc]
phasepainlabor = ∫ {L*[c^(xl+xp)+gd^xt]+l} dxp from xp = [0,xc]
xc is the length of the current phase.
Simplifying, we get:
phasepaintorture = i can't integrate this
phasepainlabor = i can't integrate this
bloodbow data shows the following estimates for each variable, making the assumptions that bloodbow torture starts at a pain rating of about one, and the average anti-gay survives 20 years after arrest:
t = ~0.6
l = ~0.1
T = ~0.5
L = ~0.4
c = ~0.79
d = ~0.891
g = ~0.12
f = ~0.1
1due to seemingly different torture methods between bloodbow and red rainbow, torture pain decay was different between the countries, and this estimation is rather rough as a result
2 there is no data for this, but 0.1 was picked based off of the value of related constant f.
since xl and xt are time already spent in labor/torture, and not total time in labor/torture, it would not be correct to plug the equation in to a plotter and read off values. I could have multiple cycles of torture and labor. How torture and labor should be arranged to maximize pain must be reasoned out.
Since torture affects (pain from) labor and labor affects (pain from) torture, it is useful to have a metric describing how much loss in pain happens as a result of this tolerance
losst = T{1-[d^xt+fc^xl]}
lossl = L{1-[c^xl+gd^xt]}
Obviously, we want to minimize loss of pain for both torture and labor. But what counts as total pain? is it:
loss = losst + lossl
because there is equal potential for both torture pain and labor pain, so they should be added
or is it
loss = min(losst,lossl)
because only torture and labor can happen next, not both, so minimizing the loss of either torture and labor is better than counting both?
kolkolkol theorists are still debating this point, and since they have made no decision, we will just plug both equations for loss in and see which works better.
While a large pain value for each phase is desirable, a large loss value makes the phase undesirable. Thus, an ideal phase has a large pain value and a small loss value.
Although many desirability functions can be used to evaluate phases, here are a few currently in use
absoluteDesirability(phase) = phasepain - phaseloss
efficiencyDesirability(phase) = phasepain / phaseloss
iamhighDesirability(phase) = ζ(phasepain + phaselossi)
Currently, order to realize maximum pain, an algorithm may generate several random phases, narrow in on the most desirable one, and generate similar phases. Eventually, the ideal phase may be discovered, executed, and the loop starts over. Although the algorithm is functional, it seems inefficient, sloppy, and the wrong way to do it.
Work has been done on the possibility of directly computing the most efficient phase, but is not complete, and would require more funding.
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Mudkipz being or at least sounding logical? I think this is a first.
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Kol vh, did you actually research things or just base all that on the chart I drew from my own imagination? :P
Anyway, I did not imagine there to be different pain tolerances for torture and work, they could just be combined into a pain tolerance I imagine you build up over an extremely painful life. But it may also work completely opposite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_tolerance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_tolerance)
Some sources here I haven't read are claimed to suggest that the more pain you experience, the more sensitive you become to pain in the future, in a process similar to learning. If that works in the most extreme cases with years of torture that would ruin the current SadKol pain "theory", even though SadKol would still doubtlessly cause more pain than Gaytheism.
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uhhh i made it up based on your chart :P
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That looks... horrible.
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fuck you deoxy
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13 hours ago: Following new legislation in The Bloodbow Kollektive, children spout "Burn, suffer, torture, pain, torture, torture, die." involuntarily throughout the day.
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you are full of pain
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x-axis:
linear, goes from 0 on the left to 100 on the right.
at point n in the x-axis, you have a greater age than n% of all existing nations in nationstates
basically percentile for age
age is computed as current time - firstlogin of nation
y-axis:
linear, goes from 0 on the bottom to 100 on the top.
at point v on the axis, you have spent v% of time since the creating of your nation in existance, that is, not in cte.
basically goes from always cte to never cte
intensity:
goes from blue (none) to red (highest).
this'll be elaborated on
(http://i.imgur.com/bPGoMcS.png)intensity is proportional to the number of nations in each pixel/category
(http://i.imgur.com/vDI7fTSh.png)same as above but with nations from 97.5 to 100 on the y-axis removed in order to show cells better
(http://i.imgur.com/JwTtyfnh.png)(http://i.imgur.com/g2BOmzHh.png)same as above two but intensity is now squared
(http://i.imgur.com/xrwPWa1h.png)compensates for non-existant nations
that is, a nation which is 10 on the y-axis, or existing 10% of the time, is multiplied by 10, because for every nation in that category there are 9 more that we don't see
(http://i.imgur.com/mjvlQFhh.png)same as above, values squared
(http://i.imgur.com/feuP1R5h.png)first 29 days of nation are immune to cte because they haven't had 29 days to be inactive. this chart subtracts those 29 days to show a clearer picture. image compensates for missing nations and squares values
(http://i.imgur.com/3WfgWSth.png)same as above, intensity not squared and first row removed
just as a note, nations which cte and do not return again are not counted in this chart for obvious reasons
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did you code a program to generate those graphs?
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yes
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I have been on that website before!
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I have been on that website before!
whats your natio nname
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did kip nation or dar nation cte yet?
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darvincia will never cte
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career and technical education?
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crash to extermination
honestly I don't actually know what it means
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cease to exist
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This site is nice, if you register a nation, it stores graphs of its different budgets, population and stuff for the past month I think.
Maybe you already know it kol.
http://www.nstracker.net/ (http://www.nstracker.net/)
The military stuff seems a bit useless though, I think all nations get the same ratios divided into army, navy, airforce etc., but the total numbers must be based on issues and nation size/age.
Sad there isn't a site to track income equality, HDI and stuff like that. That would be nice to have graphs of.
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(http://www.nstracker.net/stats=ethanthova)
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I find the difference in GDP/capita between Redbow and Blaland interesting, when they both have 100 economy. I wonder which parameters it is based on.
(http://www.nstracker.net/stats=blaist_blaland)
(http://www.nstracker.net/stats=the_land_of_the_red_rainbow)
(http://www.nstracker.net/stats=the_bloodbow_kollektive)
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it's pröbably because redbow has lower rights
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Save The Antigay
The Issue
In desperation at the plight of the antigay, which has virtually no natural habitat left in The Bloodbow Kollektive, a somewhat unorthodox environmental group demands that the few surviving specimens be domesticated and sold in pet stores.
The Debate
"We must act now, before the antigay is lost forever," said spokesperson Jacob al-Zahawi during a recent interview. "Domestication has ensured the survival of many endangered species in the past, and there really is no alternative left at this point. Besides, I'm sure many families would be thrilled to welcome a antigay into their homes."
"Sure, antigays might look cute and harmless to you," says retired hunting legend Rebecca Smith, "but back in my day, they were the scourge on the nation. They carry a number of dangerous diseases, and you do NOT want to be bitten by one. My cousin was once bitten by a antigay and he's never been the same since! So now you want my grandchildren exposed to these things? The sooner they disappear completely, the better!"
This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.
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kolwt
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2 hours ago: Following new legislation in The Bloodbow Kollektive, the antigay is believed to be extinct.
We can officially declare victory over this filthy, rotting pollution! Let us all celebrate!
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Partin' Partin' (Yeah)
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Interestingly, in the issue about the car industry, nationalizing the car industry (the communist option) increases your economy significantly. This nation's economy increased from 36 to 48 after picking the option. As opposed to many of the other options that ask you to nationalize the entire private sector which cause your economy to drop in the game.
38 minutes ago: Following new legislation in ---, the nationalized auto industry is adept at making durable little cars nobody wants to drive.
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Wait Bla won't the Redbow begin to have to import anti gays from Himalia and other places once they run out of antigays to maintain their infrastructure through the manual labor in the beginning of their torture and execution?
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Well, the antigays were only extinct in The Bloodbow Kollektive, not all of Redbow, according to the NS thing, at least, kol. There they make no difference in the production.
But yes, it's true that Redbow relies on antigays as a source of slave labor that would have to be replaced if they would one day be so fortunate to run out of them. Kol. Redbow will gladly "welcome" imported antigays from all over Himalia if Himalian nations are interested in that. We are indeed interested in bringing justice to all countries.
Don't worry, we'll report them as tourists that went missing to the international organizations! >:D
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hoarde!
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sounds wonderful
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i expected starrie times 10
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inb4 99% of posts in this topic are " :) " by universe
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and bong
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:)
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Ok, some people have claimed that "Red Rainbow's population dynamics won't work and will run out of population" etc., so I have taken some time to describe its policies regarding population dynamics here.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_land_of_the_red_rainbow/detail=factbook/id=184615 (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_land_of_the_red_rainbow/detail=factbook/id=184615)
In The Glorious Armed Proletariat of The Land of the Red Rainbow, the vast majority of the population is homosexual. In order to ensure a stable supply of fresh working force, The Government has initiated some notorious policies regarding population growth.
Families as units are non-existant in The Proletariat. Instead, children grow up in large, public collectives that are similar to kindergartens, where adults are employed to take care of them 24 hours per day. From there they gradually gain more and more independence, responsibility and duties, as most of them later enter the education system and still later the work force.
The collectives require a large work force to run, but at the same time free up a lot of work force that would otherwise take breaks from their work to take care of their children. Overall the economies of scale lead to increased economic efficiency compared to traditional parenting.
To ensure a stable population, it is the duty of all capable adult males to contribute genetic material to the state genetic banks on a regular basis. It is the duty of all capable adult females to receive genetic material from these banks and give birth to three children. As reward and compensation, the females are not required to work for the last six months of their pregnancy. After birth the children are moved to the kindergarten collectives.
Some of the genetic material is analyzed for genetic traits. Based on the analysis it receives a desireability value. Desired genetic traits, such as homosexuality, are spread to a higher percentage of the population.
The three child policy has resulted in a relatively high population growth rate in The Proletariat, but it is somewhat compensated for by the fact that much of the excess population is used in the armed forces where they tend to die relatively young in various wars to spread justice and counter the international antigay threats.
These policies are planned to be in effect for several decades until the genetic technology reaches a level where The Government can create work force on a large scale without human involvement.
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Well what I had in mind was genetically designing and growing humans under lab conditions, robots are mostly Blaist Blaland's project. Robots aren't exciting enough for Red Rainbow, they're too mindless and probably can't feel pain in a way humans would be able to relate to. If the population was all robots, there'd be no one to enjoy the suffering of the antigays. I need lots of helpless, controlled humans and lots of humans exposed to the suffering to create the proper environment for the Gay Communist Apocalypse. >:D It will be glorious!
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Blade Runner
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YES PLEASE
Gay Zombie (FND Films) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZuK_wYrqp8#ws)
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what do i do
Bloznvyk Decides:
Compulsory Organ Harvesting Proposed
The Issue
Tempers flare in Bloznvyk as civil libertarians and the healthcare lobby clash once again over mandatory post-mortem organ donation.
The Debate
"It's not as crazy as it sounds," says Dr. Falala Wong. "Every day, people die because we don't have the organs to save them. Well, that and widespread under-funding of the health system. But the point is, if the government allowed us to take organs from dead people, we could save hundreds of lives a year. And come on, it's not like dead people need them."
Accept
"You keep your damn hands off my organs!" says alarmed hospital patient Tobias Zhu. "They are my organs, and I'll do with them what I like. The government has no right to my body."
Accept
The Government Position
The government has yet to formalize a position on this issue.
Dismiss This Issue
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My IRL opinion would be for compulsory organ harvesting from dead people if they have useable organs, but in NS I think I tend to dismiss that issue because I think it lowers civil rights to choose that option. Like the first option says, there's no reason why you should burn dead people's organs or let them rot in a coffin if you can put them into other people who can then get a much better life. That is a terrible waste.
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An issue for The Industrial Torture Factories of The Bloodbow Kollektive
The Issue
After recent leaps and bounds in biomedical research, scientists have revealed 'vat-grown tissue', provoking wild controversy over its possible medical - and culinary - uses.
The Debate
"There is absolutely nothing wrong that has been done here," claims one of the researchers, Dr. Al Cohen. "Vat-grown cloned tissue is extremely versatile when producing organs for transplantation, and knit my booties if it's not the tastiest and most nutritionally-balanced thing around! Beats me why anyone could be against it."
Accept
"It's shocking and appalling that we could even consider adding vat-grown meat to the menu," says Naki Obama III, the one-armed descendant of a long line of devout vegetarians. "But, on the other hand, we have been waiting for this major medical breakthrough for a long time. Imagine it - no more waiting lists for transplants! This will be of enormous benefit to the healthcare sector. I just think we should draw the line at eating the stuff."
Accept
"By all means, legalise vat-grown meat!" says Samuel Spirit, a masterchef. "Some people say that it's wrong to grow these creatures just to kill them, but that's ridiculous. Cattle breeders in other countries are doing it all the time! So get rid of this mad compulsory vegetarianism law because eating meat is not wrong. What's wrong is making them for spare bodyparts. Do I want a piece of me to have been grown? In a VAT? No. It's disgustin'. Besides, it'll raise the cost of my insurance."
Accept
"This is all abhorrent and aberrant!" declares Erica Shiomi, the High H'gradskas of the The Bloodbow Kollektive Unorthodox Church. "You can't just create meat. It's against God's will, and you'll find that pretty much every other religion will back me up on this one. Living things were designed to be born. Or hatched. Or germinated. And then there's mitosis of course, but that's not the point - the point is that there are some things that Men were not meant to meddle with. We should keep well away from the whole cloning business altogether."
Accept
"That guy has no sense of vision." says Marlon Khan, your Minister of Demographics. "Why waste this invention on healthcare or cookery when so much more could be done! Sterilise everybody and grow new people in vats! Disease will be a thing of the past! When they break, just grow new parts! It adopts the industrial method to population management, something we've needed for a long time. And now that we finally have the right technology, I say we do it!"
This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.
OH YES
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What the christ
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(https://i1.ytimg.com/vi/1S2xB7Kc6RI/hqdefault.jpg)
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"Blaist Blaland is ranked 1st in Communist International and 245th in the world for Most Dedicated Public Healthcare, scoring 396 on the Theresa-Nightingale Rating."
245th, on nice, that's the top 0.21%. Still a long way up to number one with 3,375 though.
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Oh nose :(
The Issue
A major contamination of The Bloodbow Kollektive's Citizen Creation Vats has caused millions of your newest citizens to be 'born' with severe mental illnesses. An emergency meeting of your top Ministers has been called to decide what to do about the issue.
The Debate
"It's obvious what must be done," says Robin McKay, your Minister for Artificial Citizens, "we must regrow new brains for the lot of them. It'll cost a fortune, but it's our duty as their leaders. It's our fault these citizens are suffering; so naturally, we must do all we can to fix the problem. What other option is there? Think of your citizens."
Accept
"Are you insane?" asks your Public Relations Coordinator "-er ahem, but think of the money! It would cost billions of antigay limbs to regrow and transplant that many brains. Mark my words, if you give them new brains, you'll have a coup on your hands for sending our economy into a tailspin. No. No. Absolutely not. We must," he leans in with a pained look, "ship these 'defectives' off to a secluded island somewhere, so we can forget they ever existed."
Accept
An old man on the street who has been jabbing at you through the window with his cane chimes in, "The solution is plain as day you doddering fools! These vats must be closed immediately and the technology banned! They're unnatural abominations! You know how I came into this world? Kicking and screaming from the loins of my mother! The government must allow people to have sex again and give birth the way God intended!"
Accept
"Oh no no no, we've invested too much money into the national vat system to throw it all away over one minor incident," stresses your Financial Minister Ivan Washington. "Look at the situation from a resource standpoint. This batch of resources is damaged, so naturally, the most economical solution is to remove the damaged products, dispose of them, and recycle the functional parts back into the vats. We must reduce, reuse and recycle, Mikkel Sikkel, for the good of our national vats - and for the good of The Bloodbow Kollektive, of course."
This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.
>:D >:D >:D Oh yes >:D >:D >:D
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remove the comma so that it says "we must reduce, reuse, and recycle Mikkel Sikkel"
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That sounds like a bad idea.
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Bloznvyk Decides:
Yqt1001s On The Dinner Table?
The Issue
In a bid to provide a new revenue stream for Bloznvyk's Beef-Based Agriculture industry, it has been suggested that Yqt1001s could be added to the menu.
The Debate
"The fact is, the Yqt1001 population is out of control," says Beef-Based Agriculture spokesperson Sean Frederickson. "We have to do something about them anyway, so why not market them as tasty snacks? We could have Yqt1001 kebabs, Yqt1001 pies, Yqt1001-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless! Let's not pass up this golden opportunity to provide a feast, if you will, for our economy."
Accept
"I agree that something needs to be done about Yqt1001 over-population," says random passer-by Charles Cho, "but eating them? That's kind of gross. Let's just shoot the ones we have to and shovel their bodies into ditches like normal."
Accept
"I am shocked and appalled!" declared SPCA President Rosalia Dovey. "If anyone needs to be culled, it's us humans. The Yqt1001s were here first, remember? We need to take this as a sign to get our industry--agriculture in particular--to back off. The Yqt1001 is part of what makes Bloznvyk a great nation!"
Accept
The Government Position
The government has yet to formalize a position on this issue.
Dismiss This Issue
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Some plots on name length vs population
On this graph, the x-axis has name length in characters and average population on the y-axis. it does some strange drop at around 23 characters for some reason
http://i.imgur.com/VtOY1vt.png (http://i.imgur.com/VtOY1vt.png)
Instead of the average this plot shows every single point. It seems that the name length limit must have been increased a few years ago
http://i.imgur.com/7rBTuhz.png (http://i.imgur.com/7rBTuhz.png)
and this is a plot with the log of population in the x-axis and average name length on the y-axis. it seems that older nations tend to have shorter names. no causation implied
http://i.imgur.com/DB628Uo.png (http://i.imgur.com/DB628Uo.png)
i did this to figure out if there was a correlation between name length and whether a nation would quickly cte or be kept active. the first chart has average population increasing with name length and the third chart has population increase with name length increase. it seems i'll have to collect more information
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This says 28 days inactive and any nation will be deleted (60 days if in vacation mode):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Government:_NationStates#Statistics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Government:_NationStates#Statistics)
Did you graph all active nation names, all reserved nation names or all nation names ever used?
http://www.nationstates.net/page=boneyard (http://www.nationstates.net/page=boneyard)
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=139161 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=139161)
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only all existing nations. there's no api or data dump for the boneyard
however, i have data on all nations stretching back to the start of 2011 so i'll use that to see which nations went in active or deleted.
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no gorchul is lord of more than that
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Mfw Blaist Blaland's civil rights go up from 84 to 89 today.
"We are currently unsure what caused this rapid increase in our official civil rights" comments government official from the Blaist Communist Party in Blanaxon, "we have a slight suspicion that the cause is our recent official rejection of religion, and a slight suspicion that the cause is related to the bake sales in the military, but we have not noted any such results for all the times in the past when we passed completely identical laws."
10 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the government's official stance on religion is that it is so very silly.
10 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the military frequently holds bake sales to raise funds.
1 day 9 hours ago: Blaist Blaland was ranked in the Top 5% of the region for Largest Public Sector.
1 day 22 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, mothers are routinely abandoning their children in the name of women's rights.
3 days 9 hours ago: Blaist Blaland was ranked in the Top 10% of the region for Nudest.
3 days 10 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the nation has opened its arms to an influx of refugees.
4 days ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the government is giving peace a chance.
4 days ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, elevator music has been replaced by thrash metal played at maximum volume.
5 days ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the mining industry has taken a hit from tighter environmental regulations.
5 days ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, all-natural foods are becoming a major fad.
What could possibly be causing it?
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mathematicians have discovered the number 89
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here's a database of issues results i've compiled. perhaps i shall mess around with it later in an attempt to figure out bla's mysterious change in civil rights.
format:
previouscensusonescore previouscensustwoscore previouscensusthreescore ... previouscensussixtyninescore /n
newcensusonescore newcensustwoscore newcensusthreescore ... newcensussixtyninescore /n
issuenumber choiceselected \n
\n
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Korrupt diktatorship kolwut? :P
*Also got a bit konfused at first when I clicked the link, and landed on Blaist Blaland. :s*
this bug has been around for a while -- just got fixed :D
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=277551#p18169705 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=277551#p18169705)
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And you have a program that gets the scores? That would be kolvenient
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program to get the scores? I'm not sure what you mean here. i originally was going to use the data in order to train a computer model, but there are too many dimensions and my data is too sparse for that. i might still do something with the data, but if you just type in 69 numbers and search for them it's unlikely anything will come up.
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I meant a computer program that gets the data rather than you browsing through each score every single day and writing the values from there into a text document.
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yes. logging in, picking the answer to issues, and recording stats is all automated
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Pollution in The Bloodbow Kollektive
The air in The Bloodbow Kollektive is known to vary sharply from that of neighboring regions in its contents. The sky in The Bloodbow Kollektive is perpetually dark, mostly gray in the day and with stars barely visible in the night, and has a notable, perpetual red tint. A large part of the pollution stems from coal-burning power plants and highly pollutive factories that would be banned to the south in The Land of the Red Rainbow. A significant part of it is rumored to stem from an enormous torture industry. All over the country, a strong smell perpetually lingers. All people notice the difference when visiting from outside, but few can point to what the difference is. Some can tell the smell of rotten corpses, but will admit that it cannot be the full or true story. There is more to the smell. Rumors float that it is of burnt blood, skin and meat and possibly fine-grained, pulverized bones of evil, inhumane people, after years of torture and suffering for their punishments, whose tormented bodies go up in flames, cook, roast, or evaporate in ways unimaginable, and become nothing but gas. These rumors are somewhat twisted and spiced by the notable, perpetual sound of people screaming, every hour of the day, across most of the country, but most notable on the dark nights where people remain silent. The sounds are highly distorted in most places, probably by distance - distance may be the whole reason why the sounds actually resemble screams. Or, the stories say, the screams come from within the vast, dark forests of the country, spotwise lit up by unimaginable rituals resembling forest fires from a distance. The echoing screams, distorted, amplified, modified, muffled and manipulated by grotesque machines, make every death sound like a million, every torture session sound like a genocide and even distort the deepest senses of time in living beings, amplifying all the pain and suffering from every single second up to the point where it feels like thousands of years. Some of the most wild stories say that the sounds are not even real, but hallucinations that have become the geographically accepted reality.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_bloodbow_kollektive/detail=factbook/id=203527 (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_bloodbow_kollektive/detail=factbook/id=203527)
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what the fuck
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5 days ago: Bloznvyk was ranked in the Top 5% of the world for Nudest.
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On the x-axis, nation name length in characters
On the y-axis, the probability of not being CTE
The multiple lines correspond to 30, 40,50,75,100,125,160,205,245,300,360 days after founding.
For example, you might look at the blue line (the highest one), and see that a nation with 10 characters will have a 62% chance of existing after 30 days.
As you can see, there is little to no correlation between name length and probability of CTE.
On the left is the graph, on the right is the graph with ln(probability) as the y-axis
(http://i.imgdiode.com/9UdOFy.png)(http://i.imgdiode.com/bHYA6W.png)
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somethings not right
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dropbox 403
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take this link ehtne http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=starrie+blaist_blaland+ethanthova+darvincia/censusid=70?add_nation=aeridani (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=starrie+blaist_blaland+ethanthova+darvincia/censusid=70?add_nation=aeridani)
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Meh
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=the_bloodbow_kollektive+starrie+blaist_blaland+ethanthova+darvincia+aeridani+the_land_of_the_red_rainbow/censusid=70?add_nation=The+Bloodbow+Kollektive (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=the_bloodbow_kollektive+starrie+blaist_blaland+ethanthova+darvincia+aeridani+the_land_of_the_red_rainbow/censusid=70?add_nation=The+Bloodbow+Kollektive)
I wonder what the census is based on. It appears to be almost inversely proportional to intelligence, apparently. :b
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=the_bloodbow_kollektive+starrie+blaist_blaland+ethanthova+darvincia+aeridani+the_land_of_the_red_rainbow?censusid=36 (http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=the_bloodbow_kollektive+starrie+blaist_blaland+ethanthova+darvincia+aeridani+the_land_of_the_red_rainbow?censusid=36)
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Holykol a nation has a .gif as flag
(http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/tremalkier__223617.gif)
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=tremalkier (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=tremalkier)
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kol
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Wow so kolplikated.
Some discussion on the scientific advancement stats
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=280399&f=12&view=unread#unread (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=280399&f=12&view=unread#unread)
How it's calculated seems a bit odd. This nation does rather poorly on scientific advancement (but much more poorly on primitiveness) despite massive levels of investment in education, environment, and a very permissive attitude towards science, while my theocratic GOP parody puppet that has banned a number of forms of science (stem cell/cloning, green, the LHC, the space program, genetics research, you name it) and invests absolutely nothing in education while spending a huge chunk of its government funding on religion is in the top 5% of the world in science and even less primitive than this nation. I mean hell, my puppet stones adulterers and shut down every bit of scientific research that conflicts with its state religion, how the hell is it less primitive?
Based on the description in the news article, I'm guessing the initial scores for this new ranking were assigned in a way that subtracts eco-friendliness from this score, which would explain the difference, even if it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Edit: Also, the news post seems to insinuate that HDI and scientific advancement will tend to be positively correlated, but that isn't the case with my nation and my puppets. My two active puppets, including the GOP parody, have below-average HDI scores, yet both score highly on scientific advancement, while the inverse is true for this nation, extremely high HDI and very low scientific advancement. Similarly, both puppets have extremely low national intelligence levels (both in the world's top 5% for stupidest citizens, actually), while you'd expect at least respectable intelligence levels would be necessary for high levels of scientific advancement.
Hopefully this is just a fluke, because otherwise it doesn't seem like this new ranking was particularly well-designed.
I think I agree with that.
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Good news for Blaist Blaland: Income equality has gone back from 195 to 199 again, following these events. The bolded one should be the cause.
85 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, manufacturers are sued for almost anything not covered in their catalogue-sized manuals.
85 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the government funds large training centres to turn African Grey Parrots into functioning members of society.
85 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the words 'private' and 'enterprise' must never appear in the same sentence.
Another thing I've been wondering is whether the time it takes between when you solve issues affect how big effects the solution will have on your nation. Old nations seem to be much less affected than young nations, but there are still some old nations with extreme jumps in the graphs. (Like Ethanthova).
I think the one where you end all business subsidies is one that can change your economy a lot, no matter nation age. I tried it in Snake Skytopia and it immediately made the economy crash completely, and I think the industry sector went to 0% of budget immediately. But I think that's just what the issue does and doesn't have anything to do with time between issues.
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take a look at this nation
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=mune_mune/detail=trend (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=mune_mune/detail=trend)
about the thing with old nations and effects, there appears to be none the last time i checked
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=239480&sid=d3d1821459805d3ebde798a3b321ff54 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=239480&sid=d3d1821459805d3ebde798a3b321ff54)
perhaps old nations typically have maxed out values that are very difficult to change so the events may seem to have less effect when in fact they don't necessarily
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True - if your economy goes above around 90, issues seem to have much smaller effects on it.
As for the sudden drop in economy that could be one of those few issues that dramatically affect your nation:
"3 days 2 hours ago: Following new legislation in Mune Mune, the government is almost completely paralyzed by the recent abolishment of the tax code."
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=blaist_blaland/detail=trend (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=blaist_blaland/detail=trend)
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_land_of_the_red_rainbow/detail=trend (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_land_of_the_red_rainbow/detail=trend)
I guess that is explainable somewhat by the fact that after they started stalling so much, they were above 80. I still get as many issues as when I started playing. Now I usually reject the ones that I know will decrease the civil rights of Blaist Blaland and Red Rainbow (especially Red Rainbow's for some reason seem extremely hard to increase, maybe because I'm rejecting many of those I fear might increase political freedoms).
A quick industrious communist symbol
Edit notes:
Going to try picking 2 on the Cash for Colons issue (180) in Red Rainbow... And see where the civil rights (atm 80) and income equality (atm 194) go... I expect civil rights to fall and hope for income equality to rise...
Edit: The stats remained unchanged.
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Again, Blaist Blaland's income equality falls from 199 to 195. I remember checking it before doing the last issues, so I think I can put a blame of either of these:
1 day ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, students cut up leftover Property Notes during Arts and Crafts.
1 day ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, 'The Anti-Government Hour' is a popular programme on many of Blaist Blaland's radio stations.
1 day ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, prime real estate is devoted to wind farms and solar energy generators.
But it is very hard for me to see why either of them would reduce income equality. My guess would be the first one. Luckily, I just got this issue, which I hope will get it back to 199 (issue 255, welfare problems not faring well):
"Capitalism is the very reason why we need welfare in the first place. Laissez-faire policies would only make the problem worse," argues political activist Bianca Falopian. "If the government would ensure that all employers pay their employees the amount they need to live - no more, no less - then the problem of providing for the poor would disappear."
Edit: It didn't affect income equality. Still 195.
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And the income equality in Blaist Blaland is back from 195 to 199, kol. Due to ejecting the capitalists when I got the issue 'A Capital Idea':
16 hours ago: Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the words 'private' and 'enterprise' must never appear in the same sentence.
I also got the one that says "from each according to their ability, to each according to the available budget" a few days ago, which didn't affect the income equality, just for the record.
The economy also fell down to 99 for a few days, but building some glittering new sports stadiums got it back up to 200 yesterday.
Also kol at issue 39
The Issue
"Planning for the People," a popular new movement, has been holding protests all over the country after a recent crisis where the Economic Planning Committee accidentally sent 10 tonnes of teddy bears to a small town in dire need of wheat.
The Debate
"This has gone on long enough!" shouts the leader of the protest, Gregory Li. "While I am a patriot of our glorious Eternally Shining Sunlands, things are far from perfect. No-one wants to return our economy to capitalist exploitation, but something must be done about the bureaucratic mess that our country is in! Comrades, instead of centralized planning, we can have a democratically controlled economy! Finally we can achieve the socialist dream of workers' power!"
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"This is utter madness!" seethes Lara O, one of your most trusted economic planners. "The country would be in ruins without our central planning! Who ensures that everything runs smoothly? Sure we mess up sometimes, but hey, we are only human. Besides, we intended to send that town teddy bears. Hmm... yeah, we did intend it! Those teddy bears are edible, you know?"
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"More socialism? Have you all gone mad?" fumes foreign Tourism tycoon Nick Schultz, whose face is now turning blue with rage. "Violet save me! The government has no business telling me how to run MY business! The only real way to rebuild Snake Skytopia's anemic economy is to bring back capitalism. Privatize the really lucrative industries and cut everything else. Some shock therapy would do Snake Skytopia wonders."
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Snake Skytopia has been elected WA delegate of TUPS. I request the powers to add back the original flag and editing the factbook and establishing embasssies, and possibly the ability to surpress forum posts from the other regions that come only to spam our boards. Or that the original flag is restored.
I don't have the original flag itself, only a lower-quality, slightly edited version.
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"BREAKING NEWS: A revolutionary new cryptocurrency, "ByteCoin," is sweeping the world! Bloznvyk can mine ByteCoin for free. Shall we begin?"
ooooooooooh yeeeeeah
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/11foCM5JbsoRYFyrxrLcVhslhfqfPSxxBfS3YIK9bQ9Y/edit
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(http://i.snag.gy/Wgb8A.jpg)
we don't need no embassy
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Kol, they proposed embassy to The United Pacific States too. I set up a poll for people to vote, I voted no because the proposal seemed just random, Darvince voted yes and then I just accepted the embassy.
On a side note, maybe SKA should ristrict the delegate control of things again, such as flag and factbook. Ofc, if we don't ristrict the factbook, I can continue to post updates on regional statistics occasionally, at the risk of coups ruining it.
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Interesting, today is the census day for intelligence. Blaist Blaland initially had 40 Average Edu-tellignce® Test Score, making it number 328 in the world.
In the morning I solved the issue giving the result "Following new legislation in Blaist Blaland, the government is avowedly atheist."
And now the score has risen to 41. No change in position though, I think the country must've been (and probably still is) very close to the border between 40 and 41, some decimals that might be hidden from the public. Number 327 has 41 of the unit and number 329 has 40 of the unit.
327 http://www.nationstates.net/nation=astral_romance
329 http://www.nationstates.net/nation=laevendell
Meanwhile, some people have 85 and number 2 has 78. Holykol
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=kindjal
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_p
Speaking of Holykol, it looks like lemonade stands are taking over the country.
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take a look at this nation
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=mune_mune/detail=trend (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=mune_mune/detail=trend)
about the thing with old nations and effects, there appears to be none the last time i checked
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=239480&sid=d3d1821459805d3ebde798a3b321ff54 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=239480&sid=d3d1821459805d3ebde798a3b321ff54)
perhaps old nations typically have maxed out values that are very difficult to change so the events may seem to have less effect when in fact they don't necessarily
wow. Whoever runs Mune Mune is a worse dictator than Hitler.
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8 days ago: Following new legislation in Mune Mune, citizens living in underground cities have developed a healthy green glow.
Kol.
With that said, considering it has a moderately good civil rights graph and political freedoms aren't completely exterminated, I still think Hitler makes a worse dictator. But of course it's hard to compare irl countries to NationStates ones, I think that Nazi Germany would score 0 on civil rights and political freedoms though.
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take a look at this nation
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=mune_mune/detail=trend (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=mune_mune/detail=trend)
about the thing with old nations and effects, there appears to be none the last time i checked
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=239480&sid=d3d1821459805d3ebde798a3b321ff54 (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=239480&sid=d3d1821459805d3ebde798a3b321ff54)
perhaps old nations typically have maxed out values that are very difficult to change so the events may seem to have less effect when in fact they don't necessarily
wow. Whoever runs Mune Mune is a worse dictator than Hitler.
Nah. At least Sultan Twice Belowed let's people do things in their personal lives. Hitler kinda just shot everything.
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I meant as in ruling, not Jew oppression.
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Ok, made a nation. They should add religion to NationStates. Almost 6% of deaths are caused by Acts of God. That's kinda monotheism-based thinking. They should change it to Divine Forces for polytheists or just remove it altogether.
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What is your nation called?
Also you can add a national religion when you reach some amount of citizens, I think it's 500 million or 1 billion.
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Ok cool.
I am Edenian Colony of Omicrus Eprika
(Or something like that)
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Ok, made a nation. They should add religion to NationStates. Almost 6% of deaths are caused by Acts of God. That's kinda monotheism-based thinking. They should change it to Divine Forces for polytheists or just remove it altogether.
No, that means 6% of your peoples' leading causes of death are because they did Acts of God.
Like, you know, trapping bombs to their chests and killing themselves.
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Oh, like Osama bin-Ladin and stuff?
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Oh, like Osama bin-Ladin and stuff?
Kinda. Like they sacrifice themselves for a God and other primitive religious acts. One way to decrease this is to increase Godlessness (and therefor decrease religiousness).
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Blaist Blaland has 353 Dawkins Godlessness. :P
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/censusid=62/nations=blaist_blaland
Cosmos, do you have a nation?
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an 'act of god' is damage or death by a natural event e.g, flooding, fire, lightning, ect.
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Blaist Blaland has 353 Dawkins Godlessness. :P
http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/censusid=62/nations=blaist_blaland
Cosmos, do you have a nation?
Yes.
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Link plox? :P
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Link plox? :P
Nation is called Bentrada.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=bentrada
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nice
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an 'act of god' is damage or death by a natural event e.g, flooding, fire, lightning, ect.
lol, thought about that. Once, I even wondered if it meant God just divinely strangling someone. But it should be acts of nature, not God.
Thanks, tho.
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Gj NationStates, April 28 census: Smartest citizens, the day after (I think): Stupidest citizens, May 3rd: Smartest citizens again. :l
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kol
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Kol this new issue 353
The Issue
An IT firm organized an unusual race between a carrier pigeon toting a flash drive and The Land of the Red Rainbow's fastest internet provider. The bird easily beat the internet, prompting a debate about internet speeds.
The Debate
"This is horribly embarrassing!" cries the pixelated image of popular online vlogger Jazz Dubois. Two and a half minutes of buffering later she continues, "Our internet is the slowest in The United Pacific States. Our system needs a massive overhaul. We need to crank it up! Fiber optic connections all across The Land of the Red Rainbow! Imagine the increase in productivity. Imagine how much more connected we'll all be. It'll be well worth the cost, Mikkel Sikkel."
This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.
"You've got to be joking!" scoffs your Minister of Finance, Ella Utopia. "The government have far more important problems at hand than dealing with trivial matters such as the internet speed. The people of The Land of the Red Rainbow have access to the internet. That's far better than most of the world. Leave the internet providers to run themselves and get back to the business of running the country."
Accept
"Well, this certainly is eye-opening," exclaims amateur birdwatcher, Akira Wong, with a pair of binoculars dangling from his neck. "Here we are mucking about with our inefficient technology and the birds have us beat! Clearly we need to convert all our inefficient internet into bird-based-broadband! We'll need flocks upon flocks of pigeons and a tight training schedule, but we can do it."
Accept
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"We won't have a future unless we improve police numbers and rebuild the military," says General Elaine Utopia. "Oh, it's all well and good to have your fancy education and your nice cars, until some tinpot dictatorship decides to invade. And don't pretend like there aren't any of them in our region. Our number one priority has to be security."
Accept
I'm the only one in my region.
To hell with military!
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I'm not sure I understand what regional influence means, and what it's status represents. Can someone help me?
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In a region with more nations a nation with a high influence costs more to eject and/or ban from the region. A nation with higher influence that is a region's delegate will have more points to spend when banning or ejecting (i think).
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I have a puppet called Spodermenland.
It is a very bad place to live.
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Puppet?
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Puppets are other nations you play on different accounts.
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But nations are accounts, i have about 5 nations that are still alive and they are all on different accounts
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I know that
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Puppets are nations that you don't focus on as much as your own special nation, I guess. No need to argue about it.
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So I checked Darvincia's issues today...
"Thomas Obama, head of Darvincia's chapter of Alcoholics Anonymous, says that drunk drivers need help. "Alcoholism is a nasty thing, a disease. The government has to help these poor souls to avoid the temptations of liquor, and wine, and beer, and hard cider, and brandy, and?" His eyes get a glazed far off look, "Where was I? Oh right, we have to help these people, not imprison them.""
Thomas Obama
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Obama's distant white cousins
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Saving antigays, no, not happening.
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dark theme best theme
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so i just opened up kallisto rmb to all embassied regions. sounds like an opportunity for a new poll from bla
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Uhhhhh kol
The Issue
Following the ban on cars, a criminal alliance dominated by Olympic-class sprinters has sprung up, resulting in hundreds of running footwear shops being robbed. The Land of the Red Rainbow's police force has requested that they be allowed to ride antigays as a substitute for their inability to chase these athletic thugs on foot.
The Debate
"It's brilliant, if you ask me," says portly Police Chief Sophie Mombota while enjoying a doughnut break. "Chasing criminals on foot is so tiresome now that we can't have our cars. If the government allowed Mounties, the entire process would be so much easier. We wouldn't even need to put handcuffs on suspects, since we'd just trample 'em down!"
"It's a good idea, but we can solve this using a much more direct approach," muses a tanned off-duty cop. "I mean, why bother with animals when you can still allow cars? I agree cars should be banned for the public, but we policemen need them. Besides, it's MUCH more fun to run over criminals with cars than antigays."
"You wimps are a disgrace!" bellows lycra-clad gym instructor William Levy. "You don't need cars or antigays to keep up. It's about time someone whipped the lot of you into shape. Give me four hours a day with these pansies and I'll have them catching criminals in no time at all. Now drop and give me twenty!"
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let them ride antigays
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My country, Nalalamia
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=nalalamia
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The nodes of the graph are the regions, with size proportional to immigration/emigration. Edge thickness proportional to number of nations in each connection. Data from July 5 2013 to July 4 2014. Around 32000 regions and 250000 nation moves are shown. Nations must have stayed at least one update in each region for the movement to be shown.
http://zoom.it/3Yzr#full
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Looks cool
The Land of the Red Rainbow is ranked 1st in The United Pacific States and 269th in the world for Largest Welfare Programs, scoring 401 on the Safety Net Mesh Density Rating.
Blaist Blaland is ranked 2nd in The United Pacific States and 270th in the world for Largest Welfare Programs, scoring 401 on the Safety Net Mesh Density Rating.
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kol. right next to each other. so cute.
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It's almost like... they have the same person running them!!!! :O
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oh my god option 4 is the perfect darvincian solution
Electile Dysfunction
LEGISLATION PENDING
The Issue
Stung by an extensive exposé in The Sande Sitei Tattler of faulty and corrupt elections processes, certain Members of Parliament are loudly demanding that the Electoral Commission of Darvincia revisit the current voting system.
The Debate
"What's wrong with a plurality voting system?" rhetorically questions MP Lars Scented. "Count the votes, and the candidate with the most wins. It's the simplest and cheapest methodology, and it creates a stable two-party system without any radicals wasting Parliament's precious time. What more could you want? And..." the MP leans forward and continues in a hushed tone, "It's the best way to ensure our party stays in power indefinitely."
Accept
"Our current electoral system needs only a little tweaking," says Marleen Dodinas, a member of the Electoral Commission. "Why don't we adopt instant-runoff voting? That way people can vote for their favorite candidates plus their second and third choices without worrying whether they're mainstream enough. We'll need to hire a few more people at the Electoral Commission to tally the rounds of votes, but honestly I don't see that as a problem."
Accept
"Now is the time to completely overhaul the electoral system!" cries Evan al-Zahawi, chairperson of a single-issue political party dedicated to legalizing pig wrestling. "We need proportional representation now! If we adopt party-list proportional representation with open lists, political minorities will gain seats relative to the popular vote and actually have a voice. The centrists have dictated government policy for too long; let the political fringes speak!"
Accept
"You're missing the whole point of democracy," argues a strange woman wearing a toga. "Democracy is about equality! The best system of representation is sortition. Go back to the ancient way of doing things and pick representatives from among the common citizens through allotment. People who run for political office are usually untrustworthy and power-hungry. Randomly-selected citizens will make far better decisions than greedy politicians, even if they're a little incompetent. Lottocracy all the way!"
This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.
"Or we could just do away with this populist sham," sneers Sir George W. Peters, a landed gentleman. "Do the teeming masses really need to complicate our lives? Institute a steep poll tax to keep workers from voting, and we won't be troubled by the greedy plebeians and their insatiable desire for more welfare. Cut the entire welfare budget while you're at it, and respectable people like us can have a nice tax cut."
Accept
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demarchy
protip: greece
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randomly selected citizens tho
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I doubt that'd be a good idea irl, imagine randomly selected scientists? Randomly selected engineers? On a lot of issues they'd probably have no idea what they were doing if they have no education or interest relevant to politics. And randomly picking people without having them being elected based on their political plans isn't democratic either.
I was split between 2 and 3 and picked 3.
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seriously I would pick the second but it's darvincia so I must go for the fourth one
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randomly selected citizens tho
is demarchy, from greece (well you had to be male and hold land or wealth)
i personally prefer e-democracy with a panel of randomly selected people who are qualified in law heading the law making although citizens can write their own laws and have them reviewed and then voted on
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Kol
A period of unprecedented peace and prosperity in Blaist Blaland has seen your personal approval rate sky-rocket. Recently, a small but growing movement has emerged claiming that these general good times are the result of your divine favour, and are advocating that the people worship you as a god.
The Debate
"All hail the glorious The Blaist Communist Party, giver of safety and wealth!" shouts Anne-Marie Laine, the Prefect of the Cult of Divine Nationalism from atop a wooden crate in Blanaxon Grand Plaza. "Are not the might and benevolence of the holy The Blaist Communist Party manifest for all to see? Should we not respond in humble worship? Proclaim your divinity before all, O Great One, and your people shall listen!"
Accept
"This is heresy!" pontificates Hope Note, a high-ranking clergywoman of a major religion, while proffering a collection plate. "Surely you can't seriously be entertaining delusions of divinity? You would undoubtedly bring divine wrath upon us! I urge you, speak out against these wayward souls and endorse the teachings of our holy writ as the true path to righteousness. Only then can we be assured of continued providence."
Accept
"Let's not be too hasty now, there may be an opportunity in this," muses Maria Trax, one of your shrewdest political advisors. "Of course you're not divine, we both know that, but is there really any harm in letting these whack-jobs think you are? Nothing begets obedience like the command of one's god, after all. Perhaps a carefully constructed public statement is in order, one that gives legitimacy to these people's beliefs while avoiding claiming divinity outright. Let people read into it what they want, and if they flock to this 'religion' in droves, well, would it really be so terrible if a large percentage of Blaist Blalandians became your devoted disciples?"
Accept
"Bah! Ridiculous gobbledygook, all of it!" says Cooper Zhu, controversial atheist author of the book 'Atoms in Space and Relations Between Them - An Exhaustive Account of Existence'. "These cultists are no crazier than any other religious types, and have done far less damage than some I might mention. Take this opportunity to disavow all religion as superstitious nonsense, and throw your support behind reason instead. It's the perfect opportunity to end the tax breaks for people with imaginary friends, and funnel that additional money into the areas it can do some real good, like authors of popular science books!"
This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.
"All hail our glorious The Blaist Communist Party... or face eternal punishment!" shouts a wide-eyed bearded man in sack cloth waving a greasy tract. "Pay no heed to these sectarians, my liege, they have departed from the way of truth! Only we, of the Cult of Nationalist Divinity, have remained faithful in the face of their slanderous impiety. We know you to be an uncompromising and demanding god, intolerant of all false doctrine. We stand ready to convert the masses to your worship, by force if necessary! Starting, of course, with the insufferable heretics of the Cult of Divine Nationalism!"
Accept
20140911 stat:
(http://i.imgur.com/F6gVhjE.png)
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Oh yes top 100! Or top 0.072%
20141017: Blaist Blaland is ranked 81st out of 112,727 for Most Developed (98 Human Development Index).
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Saving antigays, no, not happening.
lmao
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do we want to publicize tups on ns
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see article 5 on this post (it's mine ;;;)))))
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=221965&start=4150#p23803468
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Kol so many graphs
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TUPS has been raided and the most recent visible posts were surpressed.
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not again
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ethanthova hit 10 billion
i'm less than 200 million behind bla!
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Have you seen the banners page? Achieving all kinds of things unlocks the crisp banners on the top of the nation page and you can select which ones to show from the banners page actually.
(http://i.imgur.com/EJkG19O.jpg)
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yeah kol, i've been planning to design a few custom banners
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apparently the black riders (yes them) were using illegal script and their founder got deleted
https://nationstates.net/region=the_black_riders
and now their region is being mercilessly invaded
sweet, sweet karma
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i used to think lexicon was a random cool name that he chose and then I began learning linguistics
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i'm moving my wa nation into tbr to join the fun
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Nicce
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The Black Raiders. Amazing.
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TUPS has been raided again.
Maybe we should just use another community region that's not prone to invasion?
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Can Atomic lock it?
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i don't think i can sign into SKA
skirt would have to
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hey what's the password for tups (i'm 99% sure that no raider group is going to know about usf)
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News from The Land of the Red Rainbow
(http://i.imgur.com/8yPTnwy.png)
Louis Ruff and Roxanne de Castro win a trip to pristine labor camps and Howard Utopia wins a seat in the Ministry of Organic Waste and Recycling
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lmao
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ayyy
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I'm going to abandon Snake Skytopia so dumping some data here for any potential future use:
{ name: 'Civil Rights', data: 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name: 'Economy', data: 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name: 'Political Freedoms', data: 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Economy:
GDP: 158,243 Ice Hearts / person
Poorest 10%: 155,881
Richest 10%: 160,401
State owned industry 17%, government 83%
Government:
Education: 18.2%
Social policy: 14.4%
Environment: 14.2%
Welfare: 13.1%
Healthcare: 11.6%
Public transport: 8.6%
Industry: 6.7%
International aid: 5.5%
Administration: 5.3%
Law & order: 2.3%
Death causes:
Old age: 55.2%
Lost in wilderness: 40.7%
Sugar Beet attack: 4%
Population: I just want to forget this number please
Some analysis stats where it deviates from Blaist Blaland in interesting ways (left = SS, right = BB):
Corruption: -185 vs -159
Culture: 105 vs 84
Environmental beauty: 2538.5 vs 2290.7
Tourism: 104.4 vs 81.719
Influence: 37 vs 27
Recreational drug use: 117 vs 89
Weather: 291 vs 225
Youth rebelliousness: 74 vs 62
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kol i thought this post was going to be usf getting raided again
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they figured out our password, asdf
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they figured out our password, asdf
wait really?
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no
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Rip in pieces TUPS
(http://i.imgur.com/db3apkD.png)
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oh my gosh
rip nation states
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saunvare and verzhani superiority
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atyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
http://tinyurl.com/81754269866
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Don't worry, I'm 100% sure The Bloodbow Kollektive will prove an effective and trustworthy Security Officer in handling a zombie invasion.
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kkkol
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this was unexpectedly funny
"Starrie is ranked 2nd in Kallisto and 117,473rd in the world for Most Extensive Civil Rights, with 34 Martin Luther King, Jr. Units."
"6 hours ago: Starrie was ranked in the Top 5% of the region for Most Extensive Civil Rights."
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https://www.nationstates.net/nation=starrie just hit 9 billion
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This is pretty cool, a trophies page.
Blaist Blaland
(http://i.imgur.com/qq6XWIy.png) (http://i.imgur.com/8Cb82La.png)
Wait, more improvements - graphs for lots of stats it seems, and trends show after solving issues!
(http://i.imgur.com/L66cZlx.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/on7bm85.png)
Also some good news
(http://i.imgur.com/bDOFbRZ.png)
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i think the change to instant gratification is probably the best change that nationstates has done in terms of keeping their playerbase in years; probably the best since z day halloween and not just one april fools
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Also TUPS has been invaded again.
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Komrage help
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Komrage help
>HAHAHAHA, I'VE PASSED ON ALL RESPONSIBILITY, IT'S NOT MY JOB ANYMORE
CYA LATER GAIS!
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rip tups
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do i have to move back and fix things now
cause i can but someone needs to let me know
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(https://i.gyazo.com/830a8d1d2fc956dc0736070efeb8dfa5.png)
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darvince let me know so i fixed things
also made a poll for who should be the WA delegate
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>kol
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Projected growth for Omnipotencian Commodities, in percents, as well as the last reported commodities, in metric:
Iron: 20% last reported: 856,795,439,980,000 Tons.
Grain: 56% Last Reported: ~250 trillion tons
Meat: 45%: Last Reported, 340 Billion Tons
Nuclear Supplies: 15%; 230,560,340,000 Tons
Military Supplies: 10%; Classified
Military Technology 30%; Based on Predicted Military Tech Advancement Through Years 7890-7920
Omnorium Alloy: 40%; 450 Billion Tons (artificial metal, made with manufactured element so production rate is low, especially after the Omniscient II's armor hull was completed.)
Other alloys and Metals (Steel, Iridium... etc) 12%; 250 quadrillion tons.
Production rates these last few years is comparatively low because of several major intergalactic wars that pummeled our facilites.
Other News: Increased military strength has been implemented in several sectors due to increasing presence of pirates.
Researchers may have found a way to increase power of various applications.
A war with the civilization Polinferstra, a Type III hostile dictatorship, was declared in joint by Omnipotencia and several other type II through type III civs today.
Protunea City (the capital) has been rebuilt on planet Droskar Alpha.
END BROADCAST (Omnipotencian Public News Network)
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no
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TUPS has been invaded again. I feel being a member of the region is embarrasing at this point. Maybe we should make or join a new/another one that isn't taken over so easily?
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play himalia
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or join the wa and endorse someone
but if people want a password i'll add one
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I don't want WA to influence my stats. But it doesn't secure the region either, because raid groups can easily gather more nations than we'd have in the WA. I think adding a password is a good idea.
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how does WA influence stats
and it'd at least create a stronger resistance
there's this passworded region i'm in which ranks really highly in most WA nations that probably doesn't even need to be passworded to protect against raids but idk so
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The WA passes legislation I think affects your stats if you're a member. Anyway password should solve the problem.
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Oshi-
(http://i.imgur.com/l6AXs2K.png)
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marx kek
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I think they accidentally put some news from Desertopia in there
(http://i.imgur.com/DhaQGqS.png)
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yes
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new art gallery so experimental physicists are still creating it in a particle accelerator
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i like how tups has the Invader tag
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maybe that's why we keep getting invaded
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Probably the tag was added by some of those who invaded us
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no it was added by skirt a long time ago
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it was added by the invaders when they last re-invaded because i removed it the first time but i must have forgot to the second time
no clue about before that
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no it was added by skirt a long time ago
wow thanks darvince
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Seconds ago: Following new legislation in Starrie, breast milk is being redistributed from each according to their ability to each according to their need.
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https://www.nationstates.net/page=election
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well i know you added it initially and then every invader since has added it
w/e
when i did something i hadn't for several years i realized i remembered almost nothing and it was really distressing
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whjat
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it was there before we were ever invaded
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this one is a pretty shitty april fools actually
bring back bytecoin
actually i'm thankful how shitty this one is because irl is important
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Caelapes for World Assembly Secretary-General! Fullcommunism for NationStates!
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voted
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Quick WA-nations vote Caelapes in the final poll!
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Update: Caelapes won!
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Caelapes won!
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And kol someone is trying to condemn Caelapes but it appears to be failing. I also let Blaist Blaland join the WA.
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wow bla #tryharder
(http://tinyurl.com/629027625189)
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#exposed
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Kol. Income isn't everything. Our income is still very high, and we have brilliant healthcare, public transport, and [insert long list of other public services] etc. etc.
Btw there's a poll in TUPS
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Yes bigger is better about good things but I think poor income (and scientific advancement, and maybe defense) is the only really good stat where Starrie (right) beats Blaist Blaland (left) :P
And look at all those lemonade stands
(http://i.imgur.com/eScI57g.png) (http://i.imgur.com/n8KuTMu.png)
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wow tups got a facelift
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" If the government takes the inheritance then we can spend all that cash on things that make ordinary people's lives better, like education, social welfare, and attack helicopters.""
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kol
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https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=373231
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=376532
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mods be active
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fiah's post made me think it was some mass sweep of thousands of nations gj fiah
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These lemonade stands are seriously out of hand
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well maybe if it wasn't a psychotic dictatorship
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Rip in pieces TUPS
yee
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#meta
The Issue
With the same old dilemmas confronting The Bloodbow Kollektive time and time again, people are demanding to know why there aren't more genuinely new issues.
The Debate
"Well, that's because they're all twaddle," says [violet] matter-of-factly while twirling a lighter in her hands. "I'm sick and tired of reading that garbage. I've decided to scrap the player-submitted system -- but don't tell anyone that. The endless waves of hate mail would overwhelm the server."
Accept
"The aim of this site is to promote my novel, not the writing talents of literary wannabes," scoffs Max Barry while sipping an iced-Margarita on a yacht in the South Pacific. "I've ordered the mods to only approve mediocre issues to ensure that no one discovers there are better writers out there than me."
Accept
"I've been combing through the queue, carefully examining each draft and determining its potential," sighs Sedgistan who is sitting next to an orderly stack of drafts stamped 'no way in hell'. "I'm confronted with thousands upon thousands of issues. I have to manage multiple editors and somehow still place in the Mod Olympics. Do you have any idea how much stress that puts on me? That's why it takes so long. Stop breathing down my neck. If you want to be useful, go help out the newbies in Got Issues."
Accept
"Huh? What's that?" says Sanctaria absentmindedly, looking up from an intimidating series of flow charts. "More issues? Well, it's your lucky day! I'm working on my next great chain. It will dwarf my last one in size and complexity. Forget everything you know about issues, every rule you think we can't break, because this chain is going to break them all."
Accept
"I couldn't agree with this more!" yelps Comrade Lenyo, his arms full of drafts. "We've received over 6,000 submissions! If we just got rid of the delete button, that'd be over 6,000 more issues. Who doesn't want that? Why are we still wasting time talking about this? Why are you reading this instead of submitting more drafts for us to add? EVERY. SECOND. COUNTS!"
Accept
The deafening Voice of Mod booms down from the heavens, "You will receive new issues when you receive new issues. Your questioning is undermining the authority of the mods. I've deleted enough nations to know flaming when I read it. You have been warned."
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Kallisto
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"Only AI know why the nation is rapidly increasing its semiconductor stockpile."
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Influence is mysterious
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The war on lemonade stands continues, and lemonade pusher gangs now make up less than 15% of the economy
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ah yes the infinite debt tax
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Here to activate the thread
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I'll start with this post
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This is fine (Adult swim reference)
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me irl
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Same
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here's how my region survived (i'm not in the united pacific states)
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Noice
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Bump...
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Wow Starrie what happened did an Ayn Rand zombie eat the monies of the poor
(http://i.imgur.com/XSXJcwJ.png)
In other news, the lemonade stands are almost eliminated
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lmao antigay limbs
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Bump
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Bump
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have you tried posting content that invokes a response
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what the cheese
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"Following new legislation in Austritistan, women who can do math in their head are burned for witchcraft."
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I'm struggling to raise my civil rights to "Very Good" to match the political freedom. But every choices I made always worsens it
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that's cause you elected trump
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I didn't even live in Murica
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you still elected trump
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well i live in the United 'Murica and all i have to say is....
A̴̵͖̠̤͙ͦ̏ͧ͂̈̅͋̓l̢̨͓̩̦̗̘͆ͬ̒̒ͨ̆ͣ̓ͨ͛̓̐͐̾͊͆ͨͤ͊l̵̵̲͎̻̪͖̣͔͉̟̮̳̿̿̎͋̐̏̀͟ͅͅ ̷̧̛̱͔̼͉̻͕̮̙̞͇̭̤̗̽͐̏̉H̵̭̼̬̫̖̗̥̉̆̐̓͑͐͒͊̓̾ͦ̀̕͠ȃ̡̓͗̂̊̇ͭͫ͆̏ͭ͐̊̈́҉͏͉̫̤̖̼̩͍̟̫̼̘͖̼̺̪̟̞ͅį̙̘̝͎̟͇̠͉͖̜̼ͤ̅̍ͤ͑̿̀͐l̨̛̝͔̠͕͇̭̜͉̖͎̘͊ͭ͆͗ͭ͐̚͟͞ ̡̡̟̻̮̙̘̜̗͇͈̟̠͙͇̺͕̮̂͋ͯ͒͋̔̒ͥ̇͆ͨ̏̒̋̉̚͝E̴̩̳̜͉̹̞̠̗͕̟͙̽̎̍̎̐ͪ̈ͯͩ͌̌ͨ̈ͤ̓̍̎́ͅm̨͇̳̫̟͖̭̩̰̯̪̺̭͈͓͚͎͖ͬ̓ͧ̑͘͜͝ṕ̵̸̧̡͎͉͖͚̺̳͖̮͚͎̮̙̪̣̣͌́́̉ͧ͐e̵̡̡̙͖͎͕͍̘͉̤̯̱̤̗̳̦͔̓͊̒͂ͦͤ̇ͮ̒́͞ͅr̢͎̩̩̘̳̟̹͎̒͆̾́̒ͭ̕óͭͮ̿̚҉̴̢͉̖̜̪̬̰͇͖̟͍͔̬̫̹͖̼̗́͞ȑ̶̌̈́͑ͬ̒̍̄͏̧͏̹̘̹͎͕͈͈̩̺̖͍̺̖ͅ ͐́̽̒́͞҉̭̮̪̬T̞̦̯͈̦̬̓̆͗̉ͯͯ̽͊́͜ͅr̷̵̓̉̋̇̋̃̌ͭͤͦͭ̀̄ͬ̄̓͒҉͙̺̮̼̺͚͓̣̙̫̺͉͉̰͉̗̜̰u͋̓̐͋̄ͪ̈͏̛͇̭̦͍̺̤͔̠͙͕́͡͡m̛̝̮͔͙̗̞̝̝̲͉̮͍̂ͣ͐̔͒ͬ̿͒̏ͯͧ͐̐ͣ̀p̵̡̛̘͕͙̯̉ͦ̿̑̉ͤͥ́̋̃̐͝
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Here's my coat of arms design for Austritistan (which is probably the worst i've ever seen)
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bump
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go away topic
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My first factbook
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=austritistan/detail=factbook/id=721519
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Nice map
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thx
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Basically, Notskyia forgot how to socialism
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i always forget how to socialism
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Parenting done right
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Lmao, the title always gets me
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On the other hand, Black Market is on an increase
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Finalyeeeeeee
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how the heck did you do that
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When it's close to 0 and flips to either side it changes by a huge percentage, on the positive side the numbers tend to be much bigger.
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«Seconds ago: Following new legislation in Darvincia, the state considers itself the 'third parent' of every child in the nation. »
may kommunism rise
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yeeeeee i kan haz technologiez
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Meanwhile...
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qmud
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Cockburn
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"Following new legislation in Notskyia, consumption of cat memes has skyrocketed."
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Yee
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qmud
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should i turn darvincia into a shithole or revive one of my shitholes
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Revive one of your shirtholes instead
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Don't turn darvincia into a shithole, it's a great nation
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goals :
develop a frightening economy before end of year
develop a superb civil rights before end of year
develop a superb political freedom before end of year
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ok my battery is dying rite now
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The police has recently arrested leading members of an underground network of school children using school kitchens to brew and export copious amounts of lemonade, well after bedtime. The network was discovered after a lemonade recipe was found in a suspicious letter from Starrie. The police reports that it will continue its successful crackdown on lemonade stands, which are now estimated to make up only 0.1% of the economy.
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Time to brag :-*
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mfw blaland turned red
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wow
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i just realized bla's post was around the 5 year mark from when most of the usf ns nations got created. well, i don't know what nations are left. blaland is around, starrie is around (but none of my puppets), darvincia is around, tups has only yqt left in it
also i just noticed that my black market economy has a greater gdp than my non-blackmarket economy
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#nolongerashamed
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Finalyeeeeeee
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This though
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yes.
anyway my black market reached 5T today, which is almost double blalands' entire economy 10/10
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=starrie/detail=trend?censusid=79
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Kol, why do you want a big black market though?
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because its the only im good at lol
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****ing World Assembly !!! I'm 99% sure they are to blame for this !!! AHHHHHHH !!!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=394/council=1
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I made a campaign dispatch to repeal the patent resolution, if you want to support, pls upvote
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=786221
Need regional delegates to support my WA proposal
https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=blaist_blaland_1489362749
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kol
is a WA resolution also the reason it went down massively the first time?
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I don't remember anymore, but occasionally I remember it going down suddenly where I didn't see it happen from the issues I passed
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yes.
anyway my black market reached 5T today, which is almost double blalands' entire economy 10/10
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=starrie/detail=trend?censusid=79
You know there's an upper limit to the black market size right? At 9,999,990,000,000 currency. I'm just warning you because I hope you're never gonna hit it because it makes my eyes bleed to see the graphs where that happens, just flat stuck at this unlikely number ugh yuck eww
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=menta_lee-il/detail=trend?censusid=79
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LOL
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yo this year's new years sounds exciting
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shit did i say new years i meant april fools
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lmao
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https://www.nationstates.net/page=faction/fid=630
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ok guys tomorrow we're synchronizing an attack on "dugnally", mainly cause i keep getting these notifications like
4/1/2017, 2:51:17 AM EDT: Dugnally (Jak Attack) 97 Targets on The Land of the Red Rainbow (USF-EE)
and it's making me nervous
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ubv is now on 24/7 duty and will notify us of nuclear attacks
* ubv has joined ##universesandbox
<syule> report!
<ubv> (old news): 85 minutes ago 97 Targets on thelandoftheredrainbow |
notes:
calling report! will force ubv to report. what is going on in the region. ubv will also report by itself every 2.5 minutes. ubv will not report more than once every 30s
if an event is recent (5 minutes), then ubv will say "ALERT!" instead of "(old news)" and it will also ping everyone in USF-EE. if you don't want to be pinged, then just reply here and i'll take you off
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USF made it to number 53
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The International Brigades got 4th, The Communist Bloc 8th, The People's Red Army 14th, Warzone Asia Socialist Pact 21th and the fascists were turned into plate glass.
Drama Llamas, the last target of TCB, got 1570th out of 1573.
Nazi Europa's faction got 1562nd.
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noice
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New dispatch on the nuclear war:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=798192
The Communist Bloc, The International Brigades, The People's Red Army, Warzone Asia Socialist Pact and many other comrades in arms, have freed the world from the sourge of fascism on NationStates in the recent global nuclear war.
Nazi Europa's faction Black Sun Rising was quickly turned into plate glass, along with many other regions sympathetic of fascism, such as Fascists United. The Anti-Comintern Pact, Anti communist alliance, Confederation of Conservative Nukes, Leage of Right-Wing Autocrats and Capitalist Defence Forces are among the many enemy factions defeated under the might of The Communist Bloc and its comrades in arms.
An account of the situation and statistics can be seen in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znd5bQ2TofQ
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amazing
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“Why not an anthem that celebrates our merged culture of artificial and human intelligence?” suggests Kim Carr, a third-generation cloud-based AI. “If you ask me, I’m tired of science taking a backseat to religion and pre-machine pre-history. I can write you a machine-friendly binary pulse barrage that both sounds really funky and has meaningful data within it if you run it as a program.”
Literally Kallisto
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ayy
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"After a recent initiative to plant vast farms of avocados in the tundra of Northern The Land of the Red Rainbow proved to be a massive failure, people have begun questioning the wisdom and competence of the highly influential Organization for Unilaterally Researching Science, Trade, Agriculture, Land, Investments and Nationalization. Functionaries from all levels of the Party have lined up outside your office, demanding action."
>that's a really long name
>...
>its acronym gotta mean something
>let's see...
>oms
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R.I.P Austritistan
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you can log back in to the nation by writing the name of it in the login box in the corner then writing your password on the page it takes you to
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good tutorial darvince
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i would eat that chicken nugget your avatar's aboutta eat
i'd pick it right outta her hands and eat it
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ok ok to make this more nationstates i will add a quote from the first post of page 17 and respond to it
no
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it looks like a jelly bean or a tater tot not a chicken nugget
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it's a chicken nugget
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Ty Darvince
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The WA is literally the plague
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let's go
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but it is 2018
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no it's 2028 and three hundred million people are dead and the united states is five various occupied zones
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The police has recently arrested leading members of an underground network of school children using school kitchens to brew and export copious amounts of lemonade, well after bedtime. The network was discovered after a lemonade recipe was found in a suspicious letter from Starrie. The police reports that it will continue its successful crackdown on lemonade stands, which are now estimated to make up only 0.1% of the economy.
On a prestigeful press conference the police reports victory in the war on lemonade stands, as lemonade now makes up an insigificant portion of the economy.
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Oh dear Kallisto and Starrie CTE'd #manytears
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literally my NS nations now
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Yeebanners
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Kol I didn't know fashion was a thing. Is it retail?
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Kol I didn't know fashion was a thing. Is it retail?
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=darvincia/detail=trend?censusid=23 nop
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my meta issue when
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what is a corporation
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They added policies
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Here’s my nationstate:
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>joining nationstates in 2017
>>at least it's not 2018 i guess
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Kol issue 1000
The Issue
With an election looming, certain sections of the online media have stirred up the debate over voluntary vs compulsory voting.
The Debate
“Compulsory voting makes about as much sense as a death penalty for attempted suicide,” says popular social media identity Attila Hammarskjöld in a promoted tweet. “You can’t force people to be free! You can only give them the choice. Besides, if all the people out there who don’t understand Bigtopia is our most trusted friend and ally went to the polls, what would happen? I shudder to think.”
“Attila actually makes a great and under-rated point,” says Fanny Nxumalo in a post with no geo-tag. “We really don’t want to encourage everyday people to vote. They don’t understand the important issues, like how it’s perfectly fine that a sudden rash of pro-Bigtopia candidates are running for office, because Bigtopia is our most trusted friend and ally.”
“This raises an interesting issue,” says Rick, your brother. “And that is: Why are you being such a hardass on Bigtopia? They’re our most trusted friend and ally. I was there last month on a generously funded study tour and they assured me there’s absolutely no covert plan to subvert and control the Darvincian political process. So why worry about which candidate supposedly has connections to which foreign nation, when Bigtopia is our most trusted friend and ally?”
“I think we have to acknowledge that there is a well-advanced Bigtopian plan to seed our election with candidates,” says trusted adviser Rebecca Clason in hushed tones, once the war room has been sealed and swept for listening devices. “It may be more subtle than a military attack, but ultimately the aim is the same. To protect the integrity of this government, we should disqualify all candidates who we discover to hold ties to a foreign power, however slight.”
“The threat is real, but consider the implications of such a response,” says Zack Jones, who joined your office after fleeing persecution in his native Maxtopia. “No candidates with foreign families or experience in other nations... we’d be restricting office to a protected minority, with the government deciding who can run. That doesn’t sound particularly democratic. We should require full disclosure of personal finances and foreign connections, but ultimately let the voters decide. I hope the Darvincian people can see through this misinformation assault, if only we give them the chance.”