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Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« on: August 11, 2009, 04:39:19 PM »
Our current plans for the next release of Universe Sandbox:

- The next version of Universe Sandbox will be version 2.
- The expected release date is early 2010. (turns out rewriting the entire interface takes a long time)
- It will be easier to learn and use.

Screenshots of the new UI
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,483.0.html
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,455.0.html
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,1026.0.html

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Edit: Release date changed from December 2009 to early 2010
« Last Edit: January 12, 2010, 04:03:22 PM by Dan Dixon »

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2009, 04:41:58 PM »
mid December 2009

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!  :'(

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2009, 05:05:28 PM »
December! =[ I am sad!

I can't wait though!

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2009, 05:28:06 PM »
I'll release an unfinished, buggy, undocumented alpha version no later than October 1, 2009.

This date has been delayed. See this post for more info:
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,832.0.html
« Last Edit: October 01, 2009, 04:45:14 PM by Dan Dixon »

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 05:38:27 PM »
October 1, 2009

still... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2009, 06:18:02 PM »
I'll accept a buggy version! :D

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2009, 07:20:28 PM »
Aw. Oh well it's still two months away! (October 14 is my birthdate)

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2009, 08:52:33 PM »
Dan. NET 4 will release in early 2010.

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2009, 10:34:09 PM »
Great, the longer we wait, the better it is, and the alpha-thing is always good for the impatient... :)
And the alpha thing solves the problem. :)

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2009, 01:44:19 AM »
does current version and upcoming version has option to disable screen saver?
-Mahesh Joshi, Bhopal. India

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2009, 05:37:42 PM »
does current version and upcoming version has option to disable screen saver?
-Mahesh Joshi, Bhopal. India

I've added code to the upcoming version that prevents the Windows screen saver from activating if Universe Sandbox is the focused window. But the current version doesn't automatically disable the screen saver.

In summary...
Current version: No
Upcoming version: Yes

Is this what you mean?

And you're from India. Awesome. Welcome. :)

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2009, 07:41:48 PM »
Dan, is it possible to make US not draw anything you are not looking at? Specifically Trails, Hill spheres.

Or maybe not draw if you are zoomed out too far to see the hill sphere. Though not sure how this currently works.

Just performance drops like a rock when I turn hill spheres on.

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2009, 03:15:01 AM »
thanks for considering screen saver disabling option in upcoming version. actually I was explaining something to my son and the screen saver was interupting in between. this will be a nice inclusion. And, from your "Awasome" response I suppose that you dont interact with lot many indians on this forum.  :D

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2009, 02:17:24 PM »
I'll release an unfinished, buggy, undocumented alpha version no later than October 1, 2009.
No! that is not good.

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2009, 03:05:14 PM »
I'll release an unfinished, buggy, undocumented alpha version no later than October 1, 2009.
No! that is not good.

The alpha version will be accessible via a link that I share in the forums. This version will be separately installed and run from the main public release (the version you have installed now). Universe Sandbox won't automatically upgrade until the final release in December.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2009, 03:11:28 PM by Dan Dixon »

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2009, 12:48:43 AM »
i don't care waiting :D
how longer the wait, how better the update

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2009, 10:06:38 AM »
We can all think of it as Dan's Xmas (Holiday) Present to us.

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2009, 12:33:33 PM »
We can all think of it as Dan's Xmas (Holiday) Present to us.

the best gifd for a US sandbox fan ever :D

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2009, 09:22:45 PM »
Hey Dan, How will the new UI work? Will it be Rick-Click like the current?

Will it be on the screen?

If so is it possible to remove the UI temporarily?

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2009, 11:14:38 PM »
Hey Dan, How will the new UI work? Will it be Rick-Click like the current?

It's going to be quite different.

New in version 2 is the concept of selection (which is now different from the object the camera is pointed at).

And the right click screen is gone, everything can be done with the left mouse button.


If so is it possible to remove the UI temporarily?

Yes. At the moment I've got the Tab key hooked up to toggle the UI, although I plan to experiment with the UI sliding out of the way when not being used.

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - My plans for the next release
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2009, 08:18:20 AM »
October 1, 2009

still... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!?  :'(
*does stupid* and i what if you would release it now?
*thinks of buggy version* (make's planet, PC crashes)

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2009, 04:17:47 PM »
Just think as the Buggy version more of a Beta testing.

Can help Dan iron out the bugs.

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2009, 01:55:38 AM »
So in Sandbox 2 will [you] fix the disappearance of a particle. except galaxies. everytime you save and load. [?]
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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2009, 05:17:04 PM »
So in Sandbox 2 will [you] fix the disappearance of a particle. except galaxies. everytime you save and load. [?]

Maybe. I'm not sure if I'm going to have the time necessary to improve the quality of saves by the December deadline. Be assured that this is something I want to fix early next year at the latest and may be part of a full state save feature (which may allow for an undo feature).

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2009, 10:37:09 AM »
can't wait! but don't believe that I only read this now! :(

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2009, 11:34:51 AM »
I really want an option to enable/disable the particles from disappearing in a collision.

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2009, 07:43:05 PM »
A graph that you can put time on the x axis, and a choice of things on the y.

Like accelereation, velocity, sma, eccentrity, orbital period. Amd then click the bodies you want, or a button to select all.

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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2009, 08:59:14 PM »
I would like you to implement:

Black Hole Collision Wave:
When Black Holes collide, they cause gravity waves to flow outward.
These waves can distort orbits, shapes of objects, the density of objects, or the way light travels!
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Re: Universe Sandbox 2 - Plans for the next release
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2009, 04:27:40 AM »
Star loss of galaxies. because the nearest star on a galaxy will flung because it is too fast (over 1000 times)
We will be deimplemented that one in the times of a release.