Warlight

[atomic7732]

Bump Bong.

[Bla]

I'll be gone from Staturday until Tuesday so I won't be able to WarLight until then.

If Bong could go in the next few hours if he sees it it would be nice so that I can go before going so you will probably not have to wait for me as long.

[Bla]

Bump Bong.

[atomic7732]

he's gone still I thought

[blotz]

it's a thing called vacation
Back the first
Actually the 30 but it'll be midnight so yeah

[Bla]

Bump Atomic, Darvince, new turn began.

[Darvince]

inb4 I was defeat

[Bla]

Bump Atomic.

[atomic7732]

bump bla, darv, bong, fiah

[Bla]

Bump Bong

[blotz]

bump atomic bla darvinc

[Bla]

Bump Atomic, Darvince

[atomic7732]

bump blotz

[Bla]

Our test game ended:

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4409617

[Bla]

Here are some graphs.

I think I've spent about 5 hours working on the spreadsheet, but forum refuses to let me attach files currently.

http://imgdiode.com/mf0VOm,6BaVjC,fbzmug,UarW2G,2mBeVb,SjjiK0

[blotz]

cool
how high does the green line go?
kol
turn 53: nooo bla is winning
turn 54: yay bla's losing badly!
turn 55: shit just got REAL!

[Bla]

To about 3000+. The statistics from all turns will be included in a video I'll upload to YouTube from now. I guess it'll be ready in at most 12 hours, assuming my com doesn't blue screen to death.

[atomic7732]

Darv should have won from looking at the numbers. He had the chance up until Bla got Communism... and that was a long time.

[Bla]

He would clearly have won if there hadn't been those diplomacy cards between us. Then again, diplomacy cards also affected the game for the rest of us, but I think Darvince would have won if they hadn't been used.

The video is now up:

WarLight Road to Utopia Test Game 2

[vh]

how did you lose like all your income for a second

and you can upload the sheet to google documents

[Bla]

Because there are negative bonuses before all the big positive bonuses.

I'm not interested in uploading the sheet to Google docs/Dropbox unless someone requests it.

Feedback on the map is very welcome. I plan to:

- Reduce the Socialist Road bonuses to about 300-400.
- Reduce Communism bonus to probably 1750, so it gives 250 instead of 500 above the negative bonuses.
- Remove the accidental connections between SoX65 and SoX67.
- Move negative bonuses back to one territory earlier in Capitalism, Feudalism and Slave society. Make up for this to a degree by making them less powerful.
- Redesign late Feudalism slightly (probably mess with connections, possibly add a territory) so you can avoid the negative bonus.

Also
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5818.msg107246.html#msg107246

[Darvince]

AI 4 never died :|

[blotz]

same with me

[Bla]

And Road to Utopia is officially finished. Released it to public, so now I'm just waiting for it to be approved.

http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=17762

[Darvince]

for shame, you didn't fix the connections in feudalism

[Darvince]

Feudalism is a problem though because of the design at the end. This is just an idea on how to deal with it.

Blue x - current rush zone
Red x - planned rush zone
Red lines - connections that should be removed
Orange lines - connections that should be added

This makes it easier to get to the neighbor at the side though, which is a problem. The white zone Fe X10 becomes useless, because you can take the bonus equally fast by moving along the road. It could alternatively be made a part of the bonus Fe X4.

Also

<Darvince>maybe
<Darvince>add more territories in the side
<BlaBla44>I can modify it all I'd just prefer only having to mess with connections by now.
<BlaBla44>But yes, I'm considering of putting an extra territory in the side and let it connect 1 territory earlier, or connect it to one of the side territories.
<Darvince>no
<Kalassak>ok back to stuff
<Darvince>you should remove the connection between 23x and Fe x 16
<Darvince>alternatively add another territory between fe x 15 and fe x 16
<Darvince>and increase the 4 army bonus to 5 armies
<Darvince>and have the fe x 15.5 connect only to fe x 15 and fe x 16
<Darvince>blabla44 are 23c 23d supposed to not connect?
<Darvince>this is also a problem with 23g and 23h
<BlaBla44>They are supposed to connect
<BlaBla44>There are yellow lines between them

[Bla]

for shame, you didn't fix the connections in feudalism

I did.

The map was approved.

Advertised a bit for the map:
http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=11578

Wow, people are giving feedback.

you need to change finish part of this map only last territory called "communism" should be 2000 or even 3000. Just played this map and went for star as fast as is possible and get there just 3 turns before someone who spread everywhere. It is too unbalanced like this. You need give a hope for those who go fast also (not false hope like this is now).
Best regards

Thoughts on this?

My response:

Thanks for the feedback. The bonus consisting of the 5 last territories give you 500 armies when you subtract the negative bonuses inside it. I think that is a lot already - in our last test game, nobody ever reached an income of over 900, but when I got Communism plus one of the socialist roads, my income quickly became 3000 and the game sort of wasn't very funny afterwards. (The socialist road bonus is now reduced from 1750 to a 400, but communism remained unchanged and is now by far the biggest bonus in the game.)

I didn't want your only objective to be being the first to reach the star, rather I think the map would give the most fun if it forces you to always consider whether it's worth rushing or if you need to stabilize your current situation.

But I am certainly open to changing the bonuses in the future based on people's experiences. Do you have a link to your game? Seeing how you played on the map could be helpful.

Someone also suggested a tinier version:
http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=11578

[Bla]

So when are we going to finish the sugging test map game, vh?

[Bla]

Vh, it's been 68 days and 21 hours now!!!!!!!!!

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4605292

[vh]

Vh, it's been 68 days and 21 hours now!!!!!!!!!

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4605292

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