Author Topic: factorio (Read 17736 times)

vh · « **on:** September 19, 2018, 02:54:06 AM »

i just made this topic to save this link

https://kirkmcdonald.github.io/calc.html#zip=fVLbasMwDP2bPMWwtjBGij9GldVEzDdkebB9/Zzswtq4exH2OUeyfCSFi50F8jIIKNkyBI72NFwreRsregIx62W4kFd7haJGBWLJSdSs2OCCzcfBXWxZI9rD88BKodiCTBHJZMBXc5hkOow30HEPnTYosGcFeTd/uY3JklxF5RT33MLzYpRw2VOlnWgHD6EV81QsINZQPWiSKVbv78II7g1aojPIgpV1Opfj9DKSJ1RhbP5IbA90c39FzVeOs3HCO9EWztvpabyyNM+DCTDDB8d+1VkognvA1Wi0ipB2aY6FRKn/08wkuLYpqUZX/m8ic+4TAg769UvbMd+G288rybdtyxCp61AbI7UhfE2tK7jdzK4EEzxyHlPOJCbJffEfAUvbu8d00bRz6pv7BA==

vh · « **Reply #1 on:** September 26, 2018, 05:02:10 PM »

finally set up a proper train station

Darvince · « **Reply #2 on:** September 27, 2018, 12:48:04 AM »

every new thing i learn about factorio makes me yet more confused as to what exactly it is

vh · « **Reply #3 on:** September 27, 2018, 08:07:05 AM »

vh · « **Reply #4 on:** September 28, 2018, 10:37:59 PM »

a little base map

it took me like 50 hours to launch the rocket, and since then i've spent like 30 hours preparing for my first planned out base with a target of 1 science per second

vh · « **Reply #5 on:** September 28, 2018, 10:52:29 PM »

in my main enclosure there, there are actually 3 "outpost" mines which eventually got absorbed into my main base as i kept expanding

vh · « **Reply #6 on:** September 30, 2018, 07:26:31 PM »

my half-a-reactor-but-its-not-done design

https://pastebin.com/raw/HjcVj6qZ

vh · « **Reply #7 on:** September 30, 2018, 09:47:24 PM »

new power plant, since i kept on running into power problems. this should produce up to 800 MW, although i usually consume around 200 MW

vh · « **Reply #8 on:** October 01, 2018, 08:57:38 PM »

setting up a "proper" non-spaghetti base for once, with a target of 50 spm -- i have plates, green circuits, and steel set up

vh · « **Reply #9 on:** October 03, 2018, 12:24:55 AM »

finished oil processing and red circuits today

vh · « **Reply #10 on:** October 05, 2018, 02:54:36 PM »

finished red green blue and grey science

vh · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2018, 02:18:54 AM »

i fucking did it boys

one science per second, just like the simulations

you can see besides that little spike from when i redid some belts for iron that i've gotten into a pretty consistent 1 rocket every 15 minutes or so, giving me > 1 science per second.

to be honest, when i planned this build out i planned 60 spm but was only expecting more like 40 spm due to me eyeballing a bunch of numbers. turns out i had a bit of margin

i'm definitely really excited about this

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my copper patch is 30M right now, so if i'm doing about 6kpm that gives me 80 hours of game-play. plus if i get to productivity 50 (i'm at 25 rn), that'll double it to 160 hours, which is about how long i've spent in total on this game so far. i'd say that's good enough. my iron patch is 60M (actually needed 2 patches to get enough miners on it) so shouldn't have to worry about that for a long time

all the components -- besides a bunch of belt balancers -- designed by myself

my next goals are probably 1. shoring up my defenses, cause this new setup is cranking out insane amounts of pollution and biters and 2. add a second 6-reactor powerplant, since my need for power is insatiable -- i'm drawing around 900MW right now, which is satisfied by my current main reactor (700 MW), my secondary reactor (100MW) and solar (100MW). i just want a lot more margin so i can stop worrying about power for a while. also i'll be able to turn off my secondary reactor which is really inefficient and 3. getting to level 30 mining, then finishing all non-infinite research, then keep doing mining prod forever since i'm pretty sure if i stop researching at any point in time all my trains will start deadlocking

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edit: mining prod payoff analysis:

based on the img i posted, it looks like it costs roughly 100 ore (iron and copper) per science. mining productivity level N costs about N*100 science, which is N*10k ore, and gives a 2% boost to productivity, meaning we recover the cost after mining 50*N*10k ore, or N/2 million ore. so level 25 mining productivity is paid back after mining 12.5M ore. level 50 mining prod would be paid back after 25M ore mined. seems like a good target to me

vh · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2018, 09:42:10 PM »

4 rph -> 5 rph just by tuning some ratios and some p3 modules

Darvince · « **Reply #13 on:** October 09, 2018, 12:13:45 PM »

wow that heat there is very meaningful

vh · « **Reply #14 on:** October 09, 2018, 01:52:53 PM »

what heat

vh · « **Reply #15 on:** October 11, 2018, 12:33:23 PM »

i have achieved 90 spm!!!1111

look at that continuous lab action on the right half -- it is beautiful

i'm pretty confident that this is as far as i can push my base without actually expanding it -- i have pm3 in most of my assemblers already.

anyway i'm about to finish prod 34. if i want to get to prod 50, which i think i mentioned before as a goal, then i'd need 15 more levels at an average of about 4200 science per level, which is ~63k science in total, which works out to 17.2 hours -- not bad.

vh · « **Reply #16 on:** November 27, 2018, 03:41:31 PM »

i tuned my setup a lot until i was getting 125 spm -- mind you from a design originally intended to do 50 spm, and then i tiled it twice so i am now at 250 spm

you can see in the graph in the second image where i momentarily shut down all science to divert resources into building the "copy" of the original base, and then that part when i started up the base only to realize i was bottlenecked by raw ore, and had to shut everything down to build more mining outposts, and then finally when i got the whole system ramped up properly

right now i'm using up about 660k copper/hour and 1260k iron/hour. i have about 90M iron in my outposts, so assuming a feasible extraction rate of 60% (since it's hard to keep an outpost going once most of the ore is extracted) and mining productivity of 75 (i'm at 66 right now), i have roughly 100 hours before i run out of ore

i've also installed new "train buffers" which you can kind of see in the overhead, where a bunch of trains are sitting, so that i can store trains full of ore without worrying about jamming up the unloading station. it also gives me like 5 minutes to fix any jamming / biter problems in the rail before the factory gets starved of resources, which is nice

vh · « **Reply #17 on:** December 18, 2018, 08:30:22 AM »

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 10-hour sustained 250 spm

it is a bit scary the rate at which i'm chewing through ore deposits. mind you when i get to prod 100, every 3M ore produced only corresponds to 1M ore mined, which is nice

Darvince · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2018, 12:23:25 PM »

Quote from: vh on October 09, 2018, 01:52:53 PM

what heat

the heat generated by running your computer playing factorio

vh · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2018, 06:13:15 PM »

it's probably roughly 20W

vh · « **Reply #20 on:** December 19, 2018, 12:23:16 PM »

prod 100!

vh · « **Reply #21 on:** July 06, 2019, 01:47:22 AM »

started mp game with fiah - got up to blue science

vh · « **Reply #22 on:** July 06, 2019, 12:57:06 PM »

fiah the WAN quit our mp game before we'd even gotten past blue science

so being the stable genius that i am, i'm setting myself a goal to reach 1k SPM

vh · « **Reply #23 on:** July 07, 2019, 07:58:01 PM »

i built 8 new powerplants today, each with 6 reactors. 3 were already more than enough for my 250 spm base, so that means my 11 in total should be more than enough for 1K spm. theoretical max power generation is 8.8 GW

also experimenting with artillery firing stations to keep the area near rails clear of biters

pic of artillery station -- i'm using 2-6-2-2 trains for artillery: 2 engines, 6 artillery wagons, 2 cargo (repair materials), and 2 more engines
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/795365490132439190/B4DD494F06227ACA26B901C814B1892A7C261444/

of the 8 new powerplants
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/795365490132428556/EA5E5E1F9F375BC59D408B8272CEEE91E874357C/

and the requisite water delivery pipe madness
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/795365490132383715/80F9EEFE671F0FD9809A867B033D549BAE382628/

next order of business will be building enough mining outposts. i'll need roughly 80k iron/minute and 45k copper/minute

vh · « **Reply #24 on:** July 18, 2020, 09:34:58 PM »

expanded by base bigly today, among many other things i accomplished

1. red was my "launched first rocket" base
2. blue was my second, 60 -> 250 spm base
3. green is powerplants for supporting my base (although i went kind of overkill with power)
4. orange are all the rail stations, which take up a surprising amount of space
5. purple is the new area i encircled today

vh · « **Reply #25 on:** July 26, 2020, 09:07:23 PM »

start of my insane smelting setup. pictured here is only iron and steel, and i've already gone through like ~3K+ level 3 modules

i want to do one of those modular train bases, but i don't want to go to too crazy with train traffic, as my greatest fear is dealing with deadlocks. so as a reasonable strategy, i've decided to do all smelting, steel production, and green circuits "on site", and those will be the inputs to modularbase

my criteria was pretty ad-hoc, but basically anything product which consumes more than ~500 inputs per second, i do on-site. so for smelting that's 800/s copper ore -> copper, 1000/s iron ore -> iron, 700/s iron -> steel, 420/s copper + 400 iron/s -> green circuits

some close contenders were red circuits (roughly ~500/s total inputs) and low density structure (~450/s inputs), but these are sufficiently far down the dependency chain that it gets really awkward

vh · « **Reply #26 on:** August 02, 2020, 01:59:27 PM »

more progress on the megabase, and also redesigned mining outpost defense system (but i'm not looking forward to upgrading all my outposts)

atomic7732 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 02, 2020, 05:03:55 PM »

what are these names

like patrons

vh · « **Reply #28 on:** August 02, 2020, 05:41:47 PM »

i think people who bought early versions of the game got to add to the list of train station names or st

vh · « **Reply #29 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:17:51 PM »

bigly progress today

found a blueprint to count the number of trains, figured it'd be good to add to my base

refined and deployed my remote artillery base. i wanted to go pure guns, but turns out i need some lasers to outrange spitters

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