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Author Topic: Map War 2 - G7  (Read 1462757 times)

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4320 on: April 15, 2012, 11:35:52 AM »
as shown by illustration, comparing to cities and arty does not work well? am i right?

so there is your version of seeing things (is it?), and my version. neither way of seeing things breaks the manual rules as far as i can tell, but from your point of view, my version is not right?

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4321 on: April 15, 2012, 11:46:43 AM »
you said the details that arty could not fire the turn it was built/upgraded with that upgrade were logical and not needed. I don't think it is possible to see this however, from just the manual.
from my point of view, you can
1. build arty
2. bombard

from your point of view, you can
1. bombard
2. build arty

since there is nothing that says it's one or the other, i can't assume one or the other. However, the manual says artillery level 'a' can attack level 'b' cities distance 'c' away. So there is no fault with my building arty and using it at the same turn.

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4322 on: April 15, 2012, 11:50:35 AM »
The fault is the same fault as in building a level 1 city and getting a resource for it. I don't think I understand your drawings and I'm not going to waste my time on them, try to misrepresent my views all you want, this is how the rules are going to be whether you like it or not.

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4323 on: April 15, 2012, 11:55:50 AM »
I'm not trying to make a straw man or confuse you with drawings. i thought perhaps they could get the point across better, but maybe not.

i don't see how 'The fault is the same fault as in building a level 1 city and getting a resource for it.' is a fault though.

If i have an empty zone. i can build a level 1 city. then, at the beginning of next round, i gain income from the level 1 city plus the zone default of 1 production. (right?) How is this different from an artillery base, which i make and then bombard a zone the same round?

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4324 on: April 15, 2012, 12:05:36 PM »
I planned my arty to build right now. If you are going to change the manual, can you at least wait a few turns?

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4325 on: April 16, 2012, 03:03:35 AM »
why will you not wait? that seems kind of unreasonable.
Before, when i mentioned i wanted to change the revolution tactic/exploit, you were concerned with it affecting anyone's strategy. We only changed it because you couldn't plan your strategy around it. However, i can and have planned my strategy around my artillery, so it is unfair to modify the rules.

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4326 on: April 16, 2012, 11:24:28 AM »
So now you're rigging it to lose... Can we just... idk PLAY IT?

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4327 on: April 16, 2012, 11:52:57 AM »
I don't think you're here to distort the rules in your favor. I just think it was unreasonable to change the rules with no advance notice and was asking to maybe figure out your intentions. You yourself noted that the rules didn't include anything and i found it impossible to figure out what was missing. And i decided to bombard Matty this turn anyway because i needed to. I'd be calm anyway, if we could push back the rule change. Anyway, if you're still going to leave, then, ironically, i will have no problem with the rule going in effect next round. And is it a thing to have 1 player bombard a zone multiple times and have it go down multiple levels?



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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4328 on: April 17, 2012, 02:58:25 AM »
so, is my turn for round 32 still invalid? Is that even a thing, to make a rule and then because of that rule, to have a turn invalid them same round? It'll be fine if the rule goes into effect immediately after.

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4329 on: April 17, 2012, 07:14:08 AM »
No.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 08:08:40 AM by Bla »

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4330 on: April 17, 2012, 11:48:19 AM »
Ok then. I assume Naru's turn is still invalid because he built in the wrong zones, that he just recieved. And Naru please bombard that zone again :)

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (Naru523 Redo)
« Reply #4331 on: April 18, 2012, 08:23:09 AM »
Naru's turn is uploaded below, now we just need to Fiah to take a turn.

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (FiahOwl)
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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (FiahOwl)
« Reply #4333 on: April 18, 2012, 10:56:38 AM »
You can only upgrade this because you don't have enough tech to make level 6+ cities.

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (FiahOwl)
« Reply #4334 on: April 18, 2012, 10:58:47 AM »

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (FiahOwl)
« Reply #4335 on: April 18, 2012, 11:00:00 AM »
You need to be more specific. It's your nation, not mine.

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« Reply #4336 on: April 18, 2012, 11:02:12 AM »

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R32 (FiahOwl)
« Reply #4337 on: April 19, 2012, 12:39:07 PM »
Scoreboard for round 33.

Taken.

Everyone are now warring Mattyland.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 12:43:28 PM by Bla »

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R33
« Reply #4338 on: April 19, 2012, 12:47:28 PM »
AHHHH LATESTRESSNESS

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R33
« Reply #4339 on: April 19, 2012, 01:53:42 PM »
hmmm... some one explain wut is happenning in this game?

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R33
« Reply #4340 on: April 19, 2012, 03:07:37 PM »
taken

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R33
« Reply #4341 on: April 19, 2012, 03:24:10 PM »

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R33
« Reply #4342 on: April 21, 2012, 09:40:50 AM »
Bump.

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R33 (FiahOwl, Naru523)
« Reply #4343 on: April 21, 2012, 09:54:44 AM »
very kute

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R33 (FiahOwl, Naru523)
« Reply #4344 on: April 21, 2012, 10:01:27 AM »
! what happened to my boat?

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R33 (FiahOwl, Naru523)
« Reply #4345 on: April 21, 2012, 10:09:25 AM »
LVL 1 military base [1]
LVL 1 artillery base [1]
LVL 1 city [2]
LVL 2 city [2]
LVL 4 city [3]
resources spent: 132
produktion increase: 30

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R33 (FiahOwl)
« Reply #4347 on: April 22, 2012, 01:50:22 AM »
I can't do my turn :/.
Then tell us what you want to upgrade, assuming you don't want to war.

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Re: Map War 2 - G5R33 (FiahOwl)
« Reply #4349 on: April 22, 2012, 11:12:38 AM »
Here it is.