Author Topic: Politics (Read 388477 times)

Darvince · « **Reply #780 on:** June 21, 2014, 03:46:18 AM »

osmotischen darmotikrase aufsfljuit abteildung kronisk obstruktiv lungesydom psychosis syndrome

atomic7732 · « **Reply #781 on:** June 21, 2014, 03:47:18 AM »

this is a great simulation of politics dar congration

Darvince · « **Reply #782 on:** June 21, 2014, 03:47:46 AM »

thank for many insight

atomic7732 · « **Reply #783 on:** June 23, 2014, 01:06:58 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VCqxVLnwNI

atomic7732 · « **Reply #784 on:** June 26, 2014, 01:13:35 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkUgLx0amDs

atomic7732 · « **Reply #785 on:** July 13, 2014, 01:14:20 PM »

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/09/analysis-over-half-of-all-statements-made-on-fox-news-are-false/

atomic7732 · « **Reply #786 on:** July 31, 2014, 01:48:16 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQeJuYd2p3k

pretty basic stuff

Bla · « **Reply #787 on:** August 01, 2014, 06:05:43 AM »

This book looks interesting

http://secure.pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=634

"Blekingegade is a quiet Copenhagen street. It is also where, in May 1989, the police discovered an apartment that had served Denmarkâ€™s most notorious twentieth-century bank robbers as a hideaway for years. The Blekingegade Group members belonged to a communist organization and lived modest lives in the Danish capital. Over a period of almost two decades, they sent millions of dollars acquired in spectacular heists to Third World liberation movements, in particular the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP). In May 1991, seven of them were convicted and went to prison."

Bla · « **Reply #788 on:** August 09, 2014, 03:20:23 AM »

So the party Venstre (which was the main party in the previous government) has presented its new immigration policies that it wants to implement... They propose that, people from the blue countries may immigrate if they get annual wages of more than 39,000 USD, while people from all the other countries may immigrate if they get annual wages of more than 73,000 USD.

...And yes, they are serious. A vomitingly disgusting proposal to treat people as first or second rank citizens based on only their origin.

Sources:
http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/2014/08/09/101340.htm
"New immigration policy August 2014 - Denmark - For those who can and want"
http://www.dr.dk/NR/rdonlyres/B25C8083-85C3-4025-AEFA-BBC3C062780C/5992374/NY_UDL%C3%86NDINGEPOLITIK__Danmark_for_dem_der_kan_og_v.pdf

matty406 · « **Reply #789 on:** August 09, 2014, 06:24:11 AM »

That looks really east & west bloc.

FiahOwl · « **Reply #790 on:** August 09, 2014, 07:20:24 AM »

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Bla · « **Reply #791 on:** August 09, 2014, 10:12:27 AM »

Quote from: FiahOwl on August 09, 2014, 07:20:24 AM

if you immigrate to Denmark from chad you are guaranteed to get paid 73k usd per year but if you immigrate from canada you're only guaranteed to get paid 39k

I think their idea to guarantee immigrants a job is a good one but this goes in the wrong direction, I agree it's strange. Just guarantee everyone 73k?

No, this has nothing to do with guaranteeing their wages. It has to do with not allowing them to stay if they make less than x amount per year. How on Earth they manage to earn that is up to themselves according to the party.
The proposal comes after a long discussion that was started when a member of the parlament and party wrote an article with the title "Happy Eid to all muslims" in which the person argued that there should be different criteria for different people.

Translated:

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"But my answer is also that it's not necessary to set the same criteria for everyone, because in general there's a big difference in the ability and desire to integrate, depending on whether it is a christian American or Swede and a muslim Somalian or Pakistani, who comes here."

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Men mit svar er ogsÃ¥, at det ikke er nÃ¸dvendigt at stille samme krav til alle, for i hovedreglen er det sÃ¥dan, at der er stor forskel pÃ¥ evnen og viljen til integration, alt efter om det er en kristen amerikaner eller svensker og en muslimsk somalier eller pakistaner, der kommer hertil.

Source article:
http://www.b.dk/kronikker/glaedelig-eid-til-alle-muslimer

Basically they're trying to approach Danish People's Party on immigration issues in hope of letting Danish People's Party let them have their wishes on other issues, like the economy. It'd be interesting to see the chaos unfold as the right wing tries to agree on economic policies when Liberal Alliance wants negative growth in the public sector, Left (and the conservatives too if I remember correctly) want 0% growth while Danish People's Party wants 0.8% growth.

FiahOwl · « **Reply #792 on:** August 09, 2014, 01:48:42 PM »

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phinehas · « **Reply #793 on:** August 19, 2014, 05:10:58 PM »

Quote from: Dan Dixon on April 25, 2014, 06:34:56 PM

So, in your mind, is it possible for a government to spend money and it not be socialism?

And do you also think privatized prisons are a good idea?

The United States has a Federal Government , State Governments and then Local governments. The Federal Government has enumerated powers for good reasons. The Federal Government should not reach it's power into what can be done via the State governments and the State governments should not reach it's power into what can be done at the local level and the local level should not reach it's power into what can be done by the individual. The enumerated powers of the Federal government dictate constitutionally that all other powers are left to the States and to the People. Charity is not the domain of any government. Individuals can VOLUNTARILY be as charitable as they wish and have no need for governments to take by force, via taxes for anything outside of their enumerated powers that the PEOPLE have agreed to give the institutions.

The United States of America has the BEST form of Government in the history of mankind. It was the first human advanced government that stated inalienable rights are endowed upon mankind by the Creator and can not be given or taken away by a Monarchy or despotic government run by "well meaning" delusional elites.

You want to ruin this form of government? Continue to "fundamentally transform" America until it's broken beyond repair.

â€œI apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe.â€¦Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent and they will be vigilant, give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy.â€ (Daniel Webster, Works, 1:403.)

Lovechild · « **Reply #794 on:** August 21, 2014, 01:37:36 PM »

^ this guy is hilariously myopic

Darvince · « **Reply #795 on:** August 21, 2014, 06:59:43 PM »

please don't debate him you'll just get extremely frustrated and facepalm a lot

phinehas · « **Reply #796 on:** September 02, 2014, 10:04:40 PM »

That's all you can do, declare delusions of having the truth when reality and facts have yet to be on the forum's group-think side of any "debate".

vh · « **Reply #797 on:** September 02, 2014, 10:15:22 PM »

so guys what's your favorite communist party in your country?

www.pslweb.org
i've heard the party for socialism and liberation is pretty good.

CPUSA (communist party of usa) seems to be a puppet of the democrats, so not at all worth supporting.

Darvince · « **Reply #798 on:** September 02, 2014, 10:16:38 PM »

That's all you can do, declare delusions of having the truth when reality and facts have yet to be on your group-think side of any "debate". This is simply where you declare your positions and Bla declares his, and sometimes we butt in and add our beliefs, and you continue ramming Bla for not believing your proof-less arguments.

atomic7732 · « **Reply #799 on:** September 02, 2014, 10:20:06 PM »

Quote from: vh on September 02, 2014, 10:15:22 PM

so guys what's your favorite communist party in your country?

www.pslweb.org
i've heard the party for socialism and liberation is pretty good.

CPUSA (communist party of usa) seems to be a puppet of the democrats, so not at all worth supporting.

I like the green party because it seems pretty decent and it's got some popularity and it's not super "radical" or anything too drastic of a change other than what's needed

so not really socialist but close enough

vh · « **Reply #800 on:** September 02, 2014, 10:22:36 PM »

for reference (jill stein is green)

phinehas · « **Reply #801 on:** September 02, 2014, 10:24:52 PM »

Sorry, reality and facts show that America's form of government along with it's economic system of capitalism is on one end of the desirable graph and Communist and other despot countries are on the other end. Socialism is simply the road to Communism and totalitarianism. Nobody is beating the door down to immigrate into North Korea, Cuba, etc. Where people are literally putting their lives in jeopardy to get into America. That's been a historical fact and only people living in North Korea, Cuba, etc. could deny that.

atomic7732 · « **Reply #802 on:** September 03, 2014, 06:42:23 AM »

Sorry, reality and facts show that your head is fucking solid.

Socialism/communism and totalitarianism have nothing to do with each other. I'd like to know if you could count how many times this has been mentioned.

phinehas · « **Reply #803 on:** September 03, 2014, 07:48:40 AM »

...all you have are insults and ignorance.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?catid=115&type=issue
http://history.genius.com/Karl-marx-communist-manifesto-chap-3-socialist-and-communist-literature-part-3-critical-utopian-socialism-and-communism-annotated

atomic7732 · « **Reply #804 on:** September 03, 2014, 10:21:19 AM »

at this point that's all you get

atomic7732 · « **Reply #805 on:** September 22, 2014, 09:14:42 PM »

this book i'm reading

Bla · « **Reply #806 on:** October 01, 2014, 12:32:40 PM »

54% of people in Denmark respond they would be ready to pay more in taxes to preserve the current quality of public services, while 19% respond they would be ready to accept lower quality to avoid increasing taxes.
But 35% 943 of municipal board members respond they would be ready to accept lowering the service quality to avoid increasing taxes.
http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/2014/10/01/103937.htm

Bla · « **Reply #807 on:** October 08, 2014, 10:16:00 AM »

Pretty fun, University of Copenhagen's matriculation earlier this year got "couped" by a leftist student activist group who spoke against a reform that would give people less time to finish their studies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1BEDfLRjDY

There were large student demonstrations against it last year, one day pretty much everyone from math and physics went to demonstrate and many parked their bikes inside the institute.

Xriqxa · « **Reply #808 on:** October 08, 2014, 10:20:23 AM »

Politicians suck.

Anarchy plis

Bla · « **Reply #809 on:** October 16, 2014, 05:17:54 PM »

Excellent. Hopefully they'll all rot in jail.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/16/greece-golden-dawn-mps-tried-criminal-offences