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C.I.A. in Libya
« on: March 30, 2011, 10:51:55 PM »
...To me it looks like western governments have been lying to its own people, while hypocritically critizising foreign countries of doing the same.
New York Times: C.I.A. Agents in Libya Aid Airstrikes and Meet Rebels
Hmm.
I haven't read exactly what Obama said, but this doesn't look very consistent. At least it is possible for our media to show us what our governments are doing, even though they're certainly doing what they can to stop us from knowing the truth *Wikicough Coughleaks*. I'm not surprised.

What do you think about this?
(And this isn't about whether we should have troops in Libya, even though that can also be discussed, ofc.)

The Danish article I found to behin with: Link
Google Translate, if anyone's interested. :P

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Re: C.I.A. in Libya
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2011, 11:32:00 PM »
Oh? Well, it was going to be obvious that countries from the West is going to take part of Libya's revolt.

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Re: C.I.A. in Libya
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 07:29:06 AM »
This is kinda late... :P

I also heard what Obama said. He kinda just said that they stopped the military action against the civilians (in one big city) and they are still trying to do something with Qaddafi whatever his name is.

If I said it wrong then w/e.

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Re: C.I.A. in Libya
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 07:59:07 AM »
"- For generations, the United States played a unique role as an anchor for global security and advocate of freedom. Since we are aware of the risks and costs of military operations, we are naturally reluctant to use force to resolve the many challenges facing the world. But when our interests and values ​​are at stake, we have a responsibility to act. That is what happened in Libya over the past six weeks.
- As president I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves should appear before the person was taking action.
 - To override America's responsibility as a leader - and more compelling - our responsibility for our fellow man would have to abandon who we are.
- We should not be afraid to act, but America should not bear the burden alone action. As we did in Libya, it is our job, instead to mobilize the international community in a joint action.
 - U.S. and the world faced a choice. Gaddafi declared that he would not show mercy towards his own people. He compared them to rats and threatened with punishment from door to door. Previously, we have seen him hanging civilians in the streets and kill more than a thousand people on a single day. Now we saw the regime's forces on the outskirts of town. We knew that we waited one more day, so could Benghazi - a city almost the size of Charlotte - suffer a massacre that would reverberate throughout the region and be a stain on the world's conscience.
 - In just one month, the U.S. together with our international partners had mobilized a broad coalition, secured an international mandate to protect civilians, stop an advancing army, prevented a massacre and had set up a no-fly zone, together with our allies and partners.
 - Are we trying to remove Gaddafi to power, it will divide our coalition. We would probably need to deploy U.S. ground troops or threaten to kill many civilians in attacks from the air. To be blunt, it was the solution we chose in Iraq.
 - Of course there is no doubt that Libya - and the world - would be a better place without Gaddafi. Same with many other world leaders, I support the goals and will work actively with the non-military means. But it would be a mistake to extend our military mission to include regime change."
Google Translated from the Danish translation of the speech.

I find the bolded parts very interesting.

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Re: C.I.A. in Libya
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 06:09:59 PM »
Gaddafi
Qaddafi
Qhaddafi
Qadafi
Gadafi

Nobody in the Western countries know how to spell his name.