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Dan Dixon

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Help adding data for Stars
« on: May 20, 2010, 06:28:48 PM »
Here's the problem:

I don't have mass and diameter data for all of the nearest 50 stars (just the first 30 or so). This is a problem because when you open up the nearest 50 stars simulation in Universe Sandbox and view them in chart mode, about 15-20 of the stars default to a diameter of 1 km (which is totally wrong).

Perhaps a few of you might like to help collect this data.



Let's try an experiment:

Here's the spreadsheet with the data for the nearest 100 stars:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AoYA02Dt7PgRdHpPbEJONlFiUVZwOUEtMUFiOU11V0E&hl=en

I need your help adding mass, diameter, temperature, and rotation data (and the name if there is one).

You can search by the HIP # this is the Hipparcos Catalogue number or Gliese # to make sure you've got the right star.

The data you contribute will be available to everyone in the free version of Universe Sandbox 2, not just those who pay.

Here's the spreadsheet for the rest of the stars (101+) in the Universe Sandbox star database:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AoYA02Dt7PgRdDlROG5OeWhtc0JEeXBCNWJ1TUVsSlE&hl=en


Guidelines

Don't make up data. If you can't find it, leave it blank.

If you're not sure what to put in the blank, just paste the webpage address, or type a note, into the field and I'll figure it out later.

Be sure to paste the website you found the data into the New Data Source column, this way we can verify that no one is making up numbers.

It's likely that humanity hasn't figured out the masses and diameters of all of these stars, some of this data may just not exist yet. :)

Sources

Sources to help you get started:

Wikipedia is a good place to start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_stars

This is a good source:
http://www.chara.gsu.edu/~thenry/RECONS/TOP100.posted.htm

And another:
http://www.solstation.com/stars.htm
« Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 01:02:28 PM by Dan Dixon »

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2010, 06:29:58 PM »
Well, I'm not going to help. It seems too hard.
GOOGLE DOCS! HOORAY! Still not doing it though.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2010, 06:56:08 PM »
I'll help, can I add other stars too? maybe?

Maybe in another version of the completed nearest stars, we can have the real extrasolar planets around them.
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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2010, 07:29:50 PM »
I'll help, can I add other stars too? maybe?

I only included the closest 100 stars in this list from the Stars.xml file found in the data folder where Universe Sandbox is installed.

Here's the rest of the stars... Feel free to add new stars to the bottom of this list:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AoYA02Dt7PgRdDlROG5OeWhtc0JEeXBCNWJ1TUVsSlE&hl=en
« Last Edit: May 20, 2010, 07:42:04 PM by Dan Dixon »

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2010, 08:03:21 PM »
Cool. I might as well join in the fun too.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2010, 08:04:26 PM »
Cool. I might as well join in the fun too.
Fun? You call this fun? It's boring.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2010, 08:04:53 PM »
It's awesome!

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2010, 08:06:31 PM »
It's awesome!
Nuh-uh. It's not awesome.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2010, 08:07:25 PM »
uh-huh. It's awesome.

Anyways, doing work on Gliese 581.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2010, 08:07:46 PM »
hehehe. Nice modifying.  ;D

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2010, 08:09:26 PM »
Doing this work on Gliese 581 is boring.
Take that Naru.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2010, 08:12:28 PM »

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2010, 08:14:36 PM »
I found a contradiction... Gliese 581 reads in the GLID "Gl 644 A"

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2010, 08:15:59 PM »
Yeah. In Stars 101+ Gliese 581 is the 121th star closest from the Sun which is suppose to be the 87th according to wikipedia.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2010, 08:16:49 PM »
Yeah. In Stars 101+ Gliese 581 is the 121th star closest from the Sun which is suppose to be the 87th according to wikipedia.
I guess with that quote modifying, we owned each other.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2010, 08:17:36 PM »
Guess we can do that in another topic.
Or stop.

Hmm I think Im done with Gliese 581.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2010, 08:44:18 PM »
Yeah. In Stars 101+ Gliese 581 is the 121th star closest from the Sun which is suppose to be the 87th according to wikipedia.

Wikipedia may not be including the 2nd star in binary stars.

I found a contradiction... Gliese 581 reads in the GLID "Gl 644 A"

Just make a note (I've added a new column for this) and provide a link, if that makes sense and I'll check it out.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2010, 08:47:16 PM »
Oh, I forgot. I thought you mean the system... Sorry for the coincedence.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2010, 09:51:37 AM »
Dan,

You know the name of the catalog that the stars are named "NN" ( like NN3877 ) ?


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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2010, 10:39:19 AM »
I helped.
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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2010, 11:44:24 AM »
Thanks everyone. This experiment is worked better than I expected!


You know the name of the catalog that the stars are named "NN" ( like NN3877 ) ?

They are Gliese #
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_Catalogue_of_Nearby_Stars#Succeeding_editions

I helped.

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2010, 07:54:49 PM »
Dan I did not notice if you include the brown dwarf UGPS 0722-05 in this list of the 50 nearest stars.

This brown dwarf is at only 9 light years away!

More info here (and included phisical postional date):
- http://Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UGPS_J072227.51-054031.2
- http://Http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1004/1004.0317.pdf
- http://Http://www.solstation.com/stars/u722-05.htm

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2010, 11:58:20 PM »
Stars discovered in the last 2 years aren't included in the list.

I'll add this one for sure.

Do you know of any other newly discovered nearby stars?

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2010, 10:50:25 AM »
Ummmm... I do, but don't know the name. It's a binary brown dwarf. It's a 2MASS... and it was in one of my podcasts... I'll try to find that!

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2010, 11:15:12 AM »
Stars discovered in the last 2 years aren't included in the list.

I'll add this one for sure.

Do you know of any other newly discovered nearby stars?

Dan exist many, many brown dwarfs ( 2 Mass )with distances less than 50 light years.

Here a list that include than ( Table 5 ):

- http://iopscience.iop.org/1538-3881/126/5/2421/pdf/1538-3881_126_5_2421.pdf

In this paper are other close cool stars that are discovery between the year 2000 and 2002

A notable multiple system of Brown Dwarfs, at a distance less than 100 light years, are called DENIS-P J020529.0-115925, this is a triplet Brown Dwarf system !

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DENIS-P_J020529.0-115925
- http://jumk.de/astronomie/special-stars/denis-p.shtml
- http://iopscience.iop.org/1538-4357/490/1/L95/fulltext

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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2010, 12:19:32 AM »
Sources

Sources to help you get started:

Wikipedia is a good place to start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_stars

This is a good source:
http://www.chara.gsu.edu/~thenry/RECONS/TOP100.posted.htm

And another:
http://www.solstation.com/stars.htm

Not sure if this helps but for each star , simbad include a bibliography section that lists papers that reference that star. These references might include the missing data.

http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-sam?Criteria=plx%20%3e176&submit=submit%20query&maxObject=10000&OutputMode=LIST
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Re: Help adding data for Stars
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 10:35:54 PM »
Oh yay. I can bump things! Also this should become active again. (If it never become inactive.)