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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #60 on: June 03, 2015, 06:55:12 AM »
huh I thought bla and/or others tried to persuade me against this in the thread, but other than reply #4 I don't really see anything.

Anyway, the deepest psychological effects of taking an uberman schedule without any long times of sleep whatsoever are vast and seem to take months to complete, but once all of them are completed I see no reason why it can't be extended indefinitely. While there may be unknown effects from carrying it out over years and years, I am most likely not going to ever see them as I already know that I am not going to continue this schedule indefinitely, only until some major roadblock occurs and I have to either switch to an Everyman schedule or revert entirely back to monophasic sleep. My original intentions with this were to have an everyman schedule, which seems to be more in line with the monophasic society.

I was doing some reading on arguments against polyphasic sleep throughout the night, especially focused on these two articles in particular, both of them by the same author:

http://www.supermemo.com/articles/polyphasic.htm
http://www.supermemo.com/articles/polyphasic2010.htm

The main thing about this is that there is simply so tiny of a body of actual scientific research on it, particularly on any studies which focus on both forms of adaptation, both physical and psychological. The psychological adaptation for the everyman schedules are far less intensive than for the uberman schedule, but they both may have their challenges. Many of my thoughts on their subject are the insight they give into the circadian rhythm, and one comment in particular from their articles drew my attention and thought:

«   Phase 0: Waking time: napping in Phase 0 is possible... [] ...It will also introduce unwelcome oscillations in the circadian system that may take a few days to clear up.» (cleaned for parts irrelevant to my thoughts)

Basically, it shows that the circadian rhythm is actively malleable, and can most likely be stretched to its limits and fall apart entirely if an uberman schedule is adapted. Those oscillations could be taken advantage of and when at times of low energy, a polyphasic nap could be taken. The only difficulty then would be removing the large block of low energy which occurs during the night and is nearly unshakable from the rhythm. He also states that, while newborns will have a polyphasic sleep cycle, their one-year-old cohorts will have a biphasic sleep cycle like adult humans.

One method that may work in preventing the nighttime drowsiness would be to push the largest block of sleep to during the day before attempting this so that the body will get even more confused as the circadian rhythm is not matched with what is happening in reality whatsoever (that is, six naps equally spaced throughout the day) and the rhythm would hopefully weaken and allow for a faster transition, although the severe sleep deprivation of the transition also seems to be unavoidable and necessary to enter a polyphasic schedule and actually maintain it rather than transition slowly and horribly, resulting in a great deal of stress on the circadian rhythm, almost always too high to handle (as the abundant failures at polyphasic sleep can attest).

He also shows quite a bit of bias in his article against it:
«Phase 18-24: Night sleep: if you try to nap in Phase 18-24, you are bound to trigger a normal healthy night sleep. This is okay as long as you do not get down to "napping" with the evil intent of stopping the process in 20-40 min. Here is were the pain of polyphasic sleeping becomes hardest to bear.»

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #61 on: June 03, 2015, 07:08:45 AM »
it's weird. Whenever i stay up past 03:00 I usually wake up sometime in the zone of 12:00

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #62 on: June 03, 2015, 01:23:58 PM »
dar but aren't circadian rhythms like... important

you talk about them like you can get rid of them through fucking your schedule up and have no problems

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #63 on: June 04, 2015, 07:57:12 AM »
i'm starting to wonder where the loss of memorable consciousness occurs - is it with stage 2 sleep? when reaching deep sleep? you have some sort of consciousness in REM otherwise dreams wouldn't happen

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #64 on: June 05, 2015, 06:02:10 AM »
well I just overslept by about an hour and a half and was woken up by a thunderstorm - I don't know which part of the process failed, but apparently I need to practice getting up with the alarm more. :P



So, it turns out I need to remember to turn my volume back up, and also there is a severe problem with practicing getting up with the alarm, as I always have a nice breakfast ready for me when I get out to the kitchen (thanks mom, you da best!) but it also means that when I got out there for my first time practicing getting up with the alarm, I had a severe disconnect because there was nothing on the table. Which means she needs to start having me prepare my own breakfast, at least one or two parts of it anyways.
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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #65 on: June 05, 2015, 11:39:01 AM »
i also woke up to a thunderstorm kol...

twice

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2015, 12:02:59 PM »
thunderstorms: the best alarm clocks

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #67 on: June 05, 2015, 12:21:09 PM »
thunderstorms: peaceful

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #68 on: June 05, 2015, 12:22:30 PM »
yeah like if you don't see a flash and then hear a loud bang... while you're sleeping right next to a window

sleepyme logic said i could protect myself if i just cover myself 100% with my blankets

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #69 on: June 05, 2015, 12:23:54 PM »
thanks for stating the obvious

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #70 on: June 05, 2015, 12:24:43 PM »
they are nice during the day but i'm still scared af when they happen at night

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2015, 03:22:52 AM »
i wanted to be free today and i somehow decided the best way to do that was to just sleep for hours and hours

???

oh well i can restart it like tomorrow or sth

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #72 on: June 12, 2015, 04:57:50 AM »
adding extra naps is fun 11/10 would recommend to all prospective polyphasic sleepers (also I had a mindblowing breakthrough that this won't change anything except make me tired for about a week)

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #73 on: June 12, 2015, 06:53:24 AM »
what are you doing now

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #74 on: June 14, 2015, 12:26:56 PM »
I am strictly napping today, I was sort of doing an 'eh whatever if I sleep that's fine if I don't sleep ever that's fine too but sleeping is preferable' for the past couple of days.

My last nap (11:00) was pretty bad as I didn't get nice and cool until about ten minutes in and then I fell pretty far asleep before the alarm woke me right back up again.

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #75 on: June 15, 2015, 03:29:24 AM »
i appear to have taken my first successful nap where I actually reached REM and did it within the time allotted

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #76 on: June 15, 2015, 02:40:52 PM »
congratio

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #77 on: June 15, 2015, 06:09:32 PM »
and then no one was online on irc and i felt kinda off because i was playing on a minecraft server with enormous ore veins distributed throughout the everything so i went to sleep

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #78 on: June 15, 2015, 07:01:27 PM »
rip your polyphasicing

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #79 on: June 15, 2015, 09:53:38 PM »
no it is not rip

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #80 on: July 22, 2015, 02:52:27 AM »
yeah it did rip but yesterday I literally jumped for joy at the thought of trying it out again, idk why, but anyway here we go again

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #81 on: July 22, 2015, 02:53:52 AM »
whatever you do keep in mind we're probably going to kolkon once before you school so idk

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #82 on: July 22, 2015, 02:57:53 AM »
me neither because i have that and other obligations but i got so pumped about it, that, idk??????? tbh i'm thinking i shouldn't actually do this because i basically have to play my homework and also play kolkon in the timespan of the next two weeks since a large portion of summer is already over, and the next time i could try it is either christmas break if i do it perfectly, spring break (again if i do it perfectly and don't choose a thingy for the week before spring break that takes me out of the city and away from naptimes) or next summer :-/

next summer is so far away

and there's no way i'm completely giving up on this, it's been tugging on my brain pretty much since i posted it, and the schedule feels like it would be more natural for me
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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #83 on: July 22, 2015, 03:12:59 AM »
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[2015-07-22 03:03:05] <Kalassak> dar last time you polyphasic'd
[2015-07-22 03:03:07] <Kalassak> i was like
[2015-07-22 03:03:14] <Kalassak> idk
[2015-07-22 03:03:30] <Darvince> what do you mean
[2015-07-22 03:03:30] <Kalassak> i was hoping you either succeeded or failed
[2015-07-22 03:03:35] <Kalassak> but you ended up like
[2015-07-22 03:03:38] <Kalassak> trying over and over again
[2015-07-22 03:03:44] <Kalassak> and it was like bleh
[2015-07-22 03:03:53] <Kalassak> but that's me being selfish so don't worry about it
[2015-07-22 03:03:59] <Darvince> «and there's no way i'm completely giving up on this, it's been tugging on my brain pretty much since i posted it, and the schedule feels like it would be more natural for me»
[2015-07-22 03:04:05] <Darvince> it's weird
[2015-07-22 03:04:30] <God-Emperor_DC> anyone want to sample my two latest tracks?
[2015-07-22 03:04:38] <Darvince> like night is usually my best time for doing personal things that i like to do
[2015-07-22 03:04:43] <Darvince> and the day is dedicated to others
[2015-07-22 03:04:58] <Darvince> but i don't have access to much of the night most of the year
[2015-07-22 03:05:20] <Darvince> unless i stay up and then am really tired the next day
[2015-07-22 03:05:42] <Darvince> due to my inefficient schedule - idk that sounds weird
[2015-07-22 03:05:45] <Kalassak> it was really frustrating seeing you get so close and then ending up just sleeping through your alarms and having to try over and over
[2015-07-22 03:05:51] <Darvince> me too
[2015-07-22 03:05:54] <God-Emperor_DC> no? ok.
[2015-07-22 03:06:07] <Darvince> yes lord dc
[2015-07-22 03:06:09] <Kalassak> lord dc what do you mean sample
[2015-07-22 03:06:09] <Darvince> it's just
[2015-07-22 03:06:14] <God-Emperor_DC> like listen
[2015-07-22 03:06:17] <Darvince> oh sure
[2015-07-22 03:06:46] <Kalassak> link them and i'll listen in the morning
[2015-07-22 03:06:49] <God-Emperor_DC> https://soundcloud.com/tags/omnipotencia
[2015-07-22 03:06:50] <Kalassak> i need to be going to bed
[2015-07-22 03:06:52] <Darvince> if i could just give up completely on polyphasic and get rid of the nagging
[2015-07-22 03:07:00] <Darvince> then
[2015-07-22 03:07:02] <Darvince> i don't know

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #84 on: October 27, 2015, 11:27:17 PM »
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and thought of doing this again due to my needs for doing shittons of homework but also my need for remaining a functioning human being

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #85 on: September 14, 2016, 07:01:49 AM »
i have a fetish for this

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2017, 12:23:16 AM »
lmao i've been up for 27.5 hours now (i hope i don't shitpost a bunch in this topic later)

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2017, 01:43:05 AM »
28.8 hours

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Re: Darv tries polyphasicing
« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2017, 02:16:02 AM »
29 hours and i'm going to sleep (I misjudged before)