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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2014, 09:26:56 AM »
why only specific situations do you want this to become as bad as english

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2014, 02:24:33 AM »
why only specific situations do you want this to become as bad as english
because its pretty
Say, use ii in word-end and í elsewhere
Or sideways turnways vice-versa

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2014, 03:29:34 AM »
or upways ī

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2014, 07:36:26 AM »
or maybe I was contemplating being like Turkish and having I ı and İ i

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2014, 06:36:19 PM »
Here's all the translations I've done so far in the Himalian doc:

He did not like that he had to give it to her.
Izimphiiyumni ikatha’akwgalkméni nékii.
i-zimphii-yu-m-n-i/i-ka-tha-akwg-alk-m-n-i/né-kii
3P-like-NEG-2HAND-3SG-ACC/3P-IMP-PAST-give-SIMP-2HAND-3SG-ACC/3SG-DAT
/ɨzɨmpxijumnɨ ɨkatxaʔakʊgalkmənɨ nəki/

Rabbits are fast animals.
Lagmiin iiktyosafak kul.
lagmiin/iiktyo-safak/kul
rabbit/animal-fast/AUX
/lagmin iktjosafak kul/

The rabbits are dancing.
Lagmiinh mayklazajé.
lagmiin-h/maykla-za-jé
rabbit-DEF/dance-IMPF-1HAND
/lagminx majklazadʒə/

Phoenix is an arid land.
Fiinisk uvelbaćp jvvéfalgtojé.
fiinisk/uvel-ba-ćp/jvv-falg-to-jé
phoenix/dry-intense-LOC/TLESS-be.feelslike-IMPF-1HAND
/finɨsk uvɛlbaɕp dʒvːəsalgtodʒə/

The dog sees the cat.
Namzhass lénzzhi géfiikiisém.
namz-h-ass/lénzz-h-i/g-fii-kiis-m
dog-DEF-ERG/cat-DEF-ACC/PRS-see-PRF-2HAND
/namzxasː lənzːxɨ gəfikisəm/

Did he like to help his mom make clothes?
Nékalkzaliim mazkihko; kentwqthacagloaj ke’élwcpog?
n-kalk-za-lii-m/mazkih-ko/ke-n-twq-tha-caglo-aj/ke-élwcp-og
3SG-help-HBT-Y-2HAND/mom-GEN/INT-3SG-two-PAST-make-1HAND.SIMP/INT-clothing.item-MANY
/nəkalkzam mazkɨhko kɛntʊ̟qtxatɕagloadʒ kɛʔəlʊ̟tɕpog/

I gave the candle to her.
Zoldnwnkhé pakwgaj nékii.
zold-nwnk-h/p-akwg-aj/né-kii
stick-light-DEF/1P-give-1HAND.SIMP/3P-DAT
/zoldnʊ̟nkxə pakʊ̟gadʒ nəki/

The man in the boat has fish for us to eat.
HHandéćpéh ehtéh ssalgiikjétilamok paoiin gyasadiajén.
hhand-ćp-h/eht-h/ssalg-iik-jé-tilamok/pao-iin/gya-sadi-aj-n
boat-LOC-DEF/human-DEF/be.smells-STT-1HAND-fish/1P-BEN/FUT-eat-1HAND.SIMP-3P
/xːandəɕpəx ɛxtəx sːalgikdʒətɨlamok paoin gjasadiadʒən/

I shall make somebody give something to you.
Inokfaklu’ajév inokakwgajnénok anwlkii.
i-nok-faklu-aj-v/i-nok-akwg-aj-n-nok/anwl-kii
3P-vague-required.to-1HAND.SIMP-1P/3P-vague-give-1HAND.SIMP-3P-vague/you-DAT
/ɨnokfakluʔadʒəv ɨnokakʊ̟gadʒnənok anʊ̟lki/

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2014, 10:03:04 PM »
it has come very far since early September when I was forced to figure out a bunch of grammar for school, which launched Himalian into a fully productive language from a phonology sitting around.

it’s a feeling i got - gut inferential
i heard about it - hearsay
i saw it - visual
i heard it - auditory
i felt it in the air - rough
i knew it - knowledge
it overwhelmed everyone’s/my senses - near certainty
it was obvious - close certainty
i felt i could touch it - atmosphere inferential
a random idea i had - conceptual
a brief conception - weak inferential
i had a thought - mind inferential
it must be true - assumed

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2014, 11:13:45 PM »
so much evidence

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2015, 08:52:32 PM »
Automatically Generated Allophony

Note: IPA is used instead of Himalian orthography, except for gemination.

Code: [Select]
1=aɛɨouʊi
2=♠•fvszxɕʔ☺☻♥♦♣pbtdkgqmnlj
3=♠•
4=pbtdkgqʔ
5=fvszɕx
6=☺☻♥♦♣
7=mn
8=ly
J=ɕ♠•ji
K=kgx
Q=qɢ
ʔ=ʔ
T=tdsz♥♦nl
P=pb☺☻vfm
V=aɛɨouʊivz•bdgɢmnlj☺♦
F=ptkqʔfsx♠♥♣♠ɕ


vv|☺
ff|☻
ss|♥
zz|♦
xx|♣
tɕ|♠
dʑ|•
'|ʔ


p/pʰ/_2
4/4ʰ/_7
n/ŋ/_K
k/c/_J
k/c/J_
4/4ʲ/_J
q/ɢ/1_1
1/1ː/_1
ɕ/ʑ/V_V
x/ɣ/V_V
d/r/#g_

Lexicon can be added when needed.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2015, 12:57:47 AM by Darvince »

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2015, 11:20:07 PM »
i'm beginning to draft a new doc, it will be the final version and for now will probably only contain a really long section on phonology

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2015, 01:05:08 AM »
i should redo the aspects to bring them in line with the present level of knowledge i have

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2015, 10:02:40 PM »
redid aspects, wörking on redoing moods now

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2015, 08:38:26 PM »
something

Code: [Select]
1=aɛɨouʊi
2=♠•fvszxɕʔ☺☻♥♦♣pbtdkgqmnlj
3=♠•
4=pbtdkgqʔ
5=fvszɕx
6=☻☺♥♦◘♣
7=mn
8=lj
J=ɕ♠•ji
K=kgx
Q=qɢ
ʔ=ʔ
T=tdsz♥♦nl
P=pb☺☻vfm
V=aɛɨouʊivz•bdgɢmnlj☺♦
F=ptkqʔfsx♠♥♣♠ɕ
Ä=ptkqʔ
Ã…=bdgɢ
vv|☺
ff|☻
ss|♥
zz|♦
xx|♣
ɕɕ|◘
tɕ|♠
dʑ|•
p/pʰ/_2
n/ŋ/_K
n/ɲ/_J
n/ɴ/_Q
k/c/_J
k/c/J_
q/ɢ/1_1
1/1ː/_1
ɕ/ʑ/V_V
x/ɣ/V_V
d/r/#g_
---
q/ʔ/_
ɴ/ŋ/_
tl/ɬ/_
t/s/_[78]
4/4’/ʔ_
ʔ//_4/1_
t/s/k_
t/s/_k
ls/ɬ/_
ʊ/u/K_
ʊ/u/_K
ʊ/y/J_
ʊ/y/_J
ʊ/ɨ/_
k5/x/_
Å/Ä/_#
6/5’/_
---
4/4ʰ/_7
---
pʰ/ɸ/_

Code: [Select]
1=aɛɨouʊiy
2=♠•fvszxɕʔ☺☻♥♦♣pbtdkgqmnljɸβɲŋ
3=♠•
4=pbtdkgqʔ
5=fvszɕxɸβ
6=☻☺♥♦◘♣
7=mnɲŋ
8=ljw
9=○◙♂♀
J=ɕ♠•ji
K=kgx
Q=qɢ
ʔ=ʔ
T=tdsz♥♦nl
P=pb☺☻vfm
V=aɛɨouʊivz•bdgɢmnlj☺♦ye
F=ptkqʔfsx♠♥♣♠ɕ
Ä=ptkqʔ
Ã…=bdgɢ
vv|☺
ff|☻
ss|♥
zz|♦
xx|♣
ɕɕ|◘
tɕ|♠
dʑ|•
m̥|○
n̥|◙
ɲ̥|♂
ŋ̥|♀

p/pʰ/_2
n/ŋ/_K
n/ɲ/_J
n/ɴ/_Q
k/c/_J
k/c/J_
q/ɢ/1_1
1/1ː/_1
ɕ/ʑ/V_V
x/ɣ/V_V
d/r/#g_
---
q/ʔ/_
ɴ/ŋ/_
tl/ɬ/_
t/s/_[78]
4/4’/ʔ_
ʔ//_4/1_
t/s/k_
t/s/_k
ls/ɬ/_
ʊ/u/K_
ʊ/u/_K
ʊ/y/J_
ʊ/y/_J
ʊ/ɨ/_
k5/x/_
Å/Ä/_#
6/5’/_
4/4ʰ/_7
pʰ/ɸ/_
l/w/_[uoy]
ɛ/e/_
55/5/_
[tk]/ʔ/_2
x/h/_
h//2_/_1
h/ʰ/_2
h/ʰ/2_
7/9/ʰ_
4/ʔ/_ʰ9
dg/g/_
ʰ/ʔ/_
ə/a/_
ɨ/ə/_

did you know doing sound changes to himalian is tiring as shit
« Last Edit: May 26, 2015, 08:47:40 PM by Darvince »

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Re: Himalian Language
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2015, 02:08:23 AM »
about halfway done with sound changes to proto-north-himalian

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C=pbtd♠•kgqʔmnfvszɕx☺☻♥♦♣lj
V=iɨuʊɛəoa
1=pt♠kqʔbd•g
6=pt♠kq
2=mnɲŋɴ
3=fvszɕx☺☻♥♦♣
4=lj
5=♠•
7=◘○
B=pbmfvuoʊ
T=tdnsz
Y=♠•ɕj
K=kgx
Q=qʕħ
U=uoʊ
O=aɛiɨə
ff|☺
vv|☻
ss|♥
zz|♦
xx|♣
tɕ|♠
dʑ|•
tʃ|◘
dʒ|○
#nasal assimilation
n/ŋ/_K
n/ɲ/_Y
n/m/_B
n/ɴ/_Q
#plosives debuccalize
6/ʔ/[23]_
#ɬ arises
kt/kɬ/_
tk/ɬk/_
gd/kɬ/_
dg/ɬk/_
ls/ɬ/_
l/ɬ/3_
#ʊ disappears
ʊ/y/[YKB]_
ʊ/y/_[YKB]
ʊ/ɨ/[TO]_
ʊ/ʉ/_
#dorsal harmony
K/Q/q…_
K/Q/_…q
#pharyngeal consequences
C//Q_
#w arises
m/w/V_C
u/w/V_
u/w/_V
#affricates front
5/7/_

finished with sound changes from himalian to proto-north-himalian
Code: [Select]
C=pbtd♠•kgqʔmnfvszɕx☺☻♥♦♣lj
V=iɨuʊɛəoa
1=pt♠kqʔbd•g
6=pt♠kq
2=mnɲŋɴ
3=fvszɕx☺☻♥♦♣
8=fsɕx
9=◙♂♪♀
4=lj
5=♠•
7=◘○
B=pbmfvuoʊ
T=tdnsz
Y=♠•ɕj
K=kgx
Q=qʕħ
U=uoʊ
O=aɛiɨə
ff|☺
vv|☻
ss|♥
zz|♦
xx|♣
tɕ|♠
dʑ|•
tʃ|◘
dʒ|○
f’|◙
s’|♂
ʃ’|♪
x’|♀
#relevant himalian allophony
k/c/_[Yiɛ]
g/ɟ/_[Yiɛ]
x/ʝ/_[Yiɛ]
#nasal assimilation
n/ŋ/_K
n/ɲ/_Y
n/m/_B
n/ɴ/_Q
#plosives debuccalize
6/ʔ/[23]_
#ɬ arises
kt/kɬ/_
tk/ɬk/_
gd/kɬ/_
dg/ɬk/_
ls/ɬ/_
l/ɬ/3_
#ʊ disappears
ʊ/y/[YKB]_
ʊ/y/_[YKB]
ʊ/ɨ/[TO]_
ʊ/ʉ/_
#dorsal harmony
K/Q/q…_
K/Q/_…q
#pharyngeal consequences
C//Q_
#w arises
m/w/V_C
u/w/V_
u/w/_V
#affricates front
5/7/_
#ejectivizaiton
☺/◙/_
♥/♂/_
♣/♀/_
kk/♀/_
8ʔ/9/_
#j coalescence
ja/e/_
jɛ/i/_
jɨ/i/_
jə/ɨ/_
jy/y/_
ju/ʉ/_
jo/y/_
#final changes
ʝ/ʒ/_
ɛ/e/_
ɕ/ʃ/_

some sample words

pantɕi → paɲʔi
nʊsk → mys’
tɕanog → tʃamog
qtɕffapat → qf’apat
ksɨk → ksɨk
qatxanasp → qatħanas’
qagjanasp → qaɟenas’
qnaspzadʑʔɛka → qas’zadʒʔeqa
gəkkikʊntqədʑitɕɛkxʊ → ʕəqciqynʔqədʒitʃeqy
kjɨ → ci
kɕanazo → cʃanazo
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