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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #3990 on: May 20, 2012, 02:55:13 PM »
that is bad because then lava can flow in, hit you feet and



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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #3991 on: May 20, 2012, 02:58:33 PM »
No, because you can mine safely at that level like this:

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #3992 on: May 20, 2012, 03:00:59 PM »
The lava might flow in slowly so you might die anyway. I don't consider a 3% or so increase in ore density enough to risk it. level 12 is best level

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #3993 on: May 20, 2012, 03:41:06 PM »
If you want to meet up with blamine though, use head level 11

Do you have any idea how far away Kaeshar is from Spawntown and blamine?

Also, cafe quarry de-sandification 99% complete, the remaining is whatever is on the side and bottom of the bodies of water that are along the edge of the quarry and one corner of it.
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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #3994 on: May 20, 2012, 04:18:12 PM »
'Do you have any idea how far away Kaeshar is from Spawntown and blamine?

actually, no.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #3995 on: May 20, 2012, 04:22:47 PM »
'Do you have any idea how far away Kaeshar is from Spawntown and blamine?

actually, no.

It was a rhetorical question. :P

While its about 2/3rds to 3/4ths of a kilometer away on the x axis, its over a kilometer on the z axis.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #3996 on: May 20, 2012, 04:44:33 PM »
'Do you have any idea how far away Kaeshar is from Spawntown and blamine?

actually, no.

It was a rhetorical question. :P

and i gave you a rhetorical answer

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #3997 on: May 20, 2012, 05:04:32 PM »

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #3998 on: May 20, 2012, 05:05:31 PM »
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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #3999 on: May 20, 2012, 10:31:17 PM »
damn dixon
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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4000 on: May 21, 2012, 10:11:17 AM »
What tunnel spacing does the Spawntown mine use? I can't decide whether a spacing of two or three would be best. I know a spacing of two blocks ensures 100% coverage though. I'm going for efficiency I guess, so I dunno, three blocks?

I think I'll just do a spacing of three blocks and I'll take a look myself what spacing the Spawntown mine uses. I'm thinking of using a variant of this or maybe just branch mining.

Also, the spawntown mine is at head height 14.
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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4001 on: May 21, 2012, 11:55:18 AM »
spawntown is spacing of two blocks which is best for mining all possible ore. I suggest 3 or 4 spaces in between because ore is rarely 1 block wide. If you don't like caves, keep it to 3 block spacing, but if you don't care and want ore, digging tunnels 5 blocks appart to search for caves is probably the most productive method

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4002 on: May 21, 2012, 12:33:28 PM »
Maybe I'll go with 4 block wide spacing. I used 3 or 4 block spacing (I'll have to check) for the mining tunnels outward from the quarry with a good success rate. Although those tunnels are at a higher y level. In that case, I'll go with branch mining with a north and a south main branch.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4003 on: May 21, 2012, 05:00:56 PM »
>four apart

no you'll miss like, 25% of ores

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4004 on: May 21, 2012, 05:02:27 PM »
but you'll cover twice as much area....

so that is a net efficiency of 2*0.75=1.5 times of mining every two spaces

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4005 on: May 21, 2012, 05:09:04 PM »
I'm thinking of doing it 3 blocks apart, I had good success with that when I did it with the mining tunnels outwards from the quarry. Even though those were more in the area of 50, 40.

I also want to minimize the amount of cobblestone, I have LOADS of it scattered around already.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4006 on: May 21, 2012, 05:16:11 PM »
make reverse quarries; random 16x16 (or similar sized) rectangular cobble pillars going up to the sky.

jk :P

anyway, more cobblestone is always good, but really, to optimize ore, spelunking is way faster than mining ever will be unless you have a large supply of enchanted diamond picks. 5 spaces apart allows for better cave finding, althought too wide is bad because you might miss them, and more than 5 spaces makes for too much walking. 4 works too and so does 3 though. If i had to redo my branch mines i'd do them 4 or 5 spaces apart, because two often have i done a branch and discovere that i have mined most of the ore from one side already

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4007 on: May 21, 2012, 05:36:55 PM »
I'm thinking of doing it 3 blocks apart, I had good success with that when I did it with the mining tunnels outwards from the quarry. Even though those were more in the area of 50, 40.

I also want to minimize the amount of cobblestone, I have LOADS of it scattered around already.

inb4 you find that Bla has moved all of it except 1 to the collective storage.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4008 on: May 21, 2012, 05:43:16 PM »
4 spaces apart seems like a good middle ground. I've heard zombie noises at one point, so I know there are caves in the area, or lava pools.

I suspect that there is a ravine running along the main corridor because at one point I hit water and when I took a brief look (VERY brief, like a few seconds), it looked like a very open space. I'll return later with some jackolanterns so I can see the immediate area better (I might turn on clear water, but I don't think that will help much when the only source of light is the jackolantern anyway. Besides, its my mine and I can do what I want with it.)

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4009 on: May 21, 2012, 05:44:48 PM »
Clear water is unlegit, according to bla, so don't use it.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4010 on: May 21, 2012, 05:52:58 PM »
Clear water is unlegit, according to bla, so don't use it.

I just want to see what the chamber is. I don't even have it on normally.

Also, heres a non-attacking zombie for the lulz. I have no idea how it happened, I was just standing there with MC being an inactive window and a couple minutes ago I heard a zombie noise, looked ingame and there it was. It was just standing there waving its arms and not attacking. I was in between a torch and the wall and when I moved, it did attack. Just some random glitch I guess, I don't even have a clue how to reproduce it.

Since the area is swiss cheesed to the extreme, there are unexplored portions, so it probably came from one of those.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4011 on: May 21, 2012, 05:57:44 PM »
You *just wanted to see*, still, thats unlegit even for a second.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4012 on: May 21, 2012, 05:59:56 PM »
You *just wanted to see*, still, thats unlegit even for a second.

Fine. Besides, if its a ravine, clear water won't be of much help anyway and I'd get better results with the brightness on max.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4013 on: May 21, 2012, 07:07:20 PM »
Ok, the point is that clear-water is unlegit because it gives you an advantage, no matter how small, if only for a second, over vanilla minecraft which is how blacraft is supposed to be played

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Re: Blacraft
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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4015 on: May 22, 2012, 08:31:38 AM »
The chamber with water turned out to be a tiny chamber (6x14x3) with a spring and a couple blocks of obsidian on the bottom.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4016 on: May 22, 2012, 09:33:29 AM »
Spawntown has almost run out of dirt. If someone else has a lot of excess dirt, it would be nice if they could move some stacks to the public storage... The more the better.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4018 on: May 22, 2012, 09:51:25 AM »
Spawntown has almost run out of dirt. If someone else has a lot of excess dirt, it would be nice if they could move some stacks to the public storage... The more the better.

I have lots of it in the chests at the ChromaSheep farm.

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Re: Blacraft
« Reply #4019 on: May 22, 2012, 12:46:00 PM »
@Dan, thanks for helping with the quarry, but maybe you could avoid mining so many random pockets as it is very hard to remove the roof of these when i go through and clear the whole thing. If you like to mine only stone or something i'll strip all the dirt/sand off for you :P