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Re: NationStates
« Reply #750 on: July 27, 2012, 01:30:30 PM »
Well, i dont like of ns stats because
NS stats aren't really realistic or reflecting how he wants his country to be
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But you can make it official if everyone wants.

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #751 on: July 27, 2012, 02:12:05 PM »
Ok I think I developed a better formula. How does this look?

Maybe it is unnecessarily complex. I think you could get rid of some of the x^4 x^3 and x^2 parts and still make it look okay.

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #752 on: July 27, 2012, 02:16:32 PM »
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Re: NationStates
« Reply #753 on: July 27, 2012, 02:34:40 PM »
how about a simple linear form

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #754 on: July 27, 2012, 02:38:23 PM »
how about a simple linear form
I think that's what it was.

Bla, couldn't you get that same shape from just a cubic function?

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #755 on: July 27, 2012, 02:40:21 PM »
also bla, the annual growth formula is wrong. it shud simply be the daily growth times 365.2425

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #756 on: July 27, 2012, 02:42:09 PM »
Bla, couldn't you get that same shape from just a cubic function?
That's what I was thinking. Well if it's only third power then it won't be as steep in the end. That's why I wanted to keep the fifth power and remove some of the lower powers.

how about a simple linear form
Yes you could make it linear, but I think the middle ranges of the NS economies should be around +/- 5% growth pr. year. The extremes should be more uncommon imo.

also bla, the annual growth formula is wrong. it shud simply be the daily growth times 365.2425
No Darvince, because if 100 grows by 10% for one day, it becomes 110. What if it grows by 10% the next day?
The next day it would grow by 10% of 110, which would be 11, so after two days, it's 121.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth

The formula ends up being
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Re: NationStates
« Reply #757 on: July 27, 2012, 02:43:21 PM »
Well, i will not use this, so, good luck on findin' the formula xD

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #758 on: July 27, 2012, 03:00:31 PM »
That's what I was thinking. Well if it's only third power then it won't be as steep in the end. That's why I wanted to keep the fifth power and remove some of the lower powers.
2x^3 is steeper than x^3, increase the co-efficient.

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #759 on: July 27, 2012, 03:14:09 PM »
Ok I cubified the function and now (green) it looks pretty much like the old one (red), just much more simple, but sadly not as steep near the ends.

2x^3 is steeper than x^3, increase the co-efficient.
Yes, but if it's high, the graph will look like an S, and it must not decrease while going from 0 to 100. So they have to be very low.

5 hours ago: Following new legislation in The Land of the Red Rainbow, the nation is famous for having one of the world's largest antigay hunting institutions. >:D
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Re: NationStates
« Reply #760 on: July 28, 2012, 07:10:53 AM »
Ok, I changed the cubic formula a bit and decided to use it.

Updates with the new formula and lots of new nations.

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #761 on: July 28, 2012, 07:49:53 AM »
I love how on the second chart, Starrie is just sitting there and Aeridani and Bielosia are getting ready to be blasted sky high.

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #762 on: July 28, 2012, 04:05:03 PM »
kolwut @ nue

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #763 on: July 30, 2012, 09:32:24 AM »
Kol this must be a new one.

The Issue

After the kidnapping, rape, and murder of a young blond girl made national headlines in Blaist Blaland, the concerned parenting organization Mothers Against Youth Doing Stupid Stuff (MAYDSS) has raised concerns over the use of social networking sites by the nation's teens.

The Debate

"Teens should not be allowed to use social networking!" cries the girl's mother, Sashona Anderson. "Some creep added my little darling as a 'friend' on that awful website, and he used it to get all of her personal information and track her down! Obviously, the only sane course of action is to ban all legal minors from using social networking sites! And don't just stop at social networks: block everything else that MAYDSS doesn't approve of!"

"Why that's utterly preposterous!" shouts Luke Zuckermann, founder of MyFace, a popular social networking site. "You can't restrict people like that! Oh, sure, today it's keeping teens from lining my wa- I mean - accessing my website, but tomorrow it's keeping everyone from anywhere the government doesn't like! I say free up the web, and get rid of restrictions!"

"You know, there's always a compromise," says local pervert Freddy Li while watching you from a nearby tree. "As I see it, the best way to keep both sides of the argument happy is to remove all restrictions on what adults can view and increase restrictions on minors. But at the same time, lower the age of majority by a lot. What could possibly go wrong?"

"What could possibly go wrong, you ask?" panics your paranoid cousin, Roger Brown. "On the internet, nobody knows your actual age. It's a haven for malicious anonymity! Besides, children aren't the only people at risk on the internet. It's full of stalker-rapists and bomb-makers and viruses and sick, depraved porn. We're better off without it."

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #764 on: July 30, 2012, 11:05:24 AM »
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Re: NationStates
« Reply #765 on: August 01, 2012, 11:05:10 AM »
62 minutes ago: Kaeshar was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Liberal Democratic Socialists".
62 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Kaeshar, heavy industry must go to expensive lengths to dispose of waste.
1 day 12 hours ago: Kaeshar fell out of the regional Top 10% for Safest.
3 days 12 hours ago: Kaeshar was reclassified from "Liberal Democratic Socialists" to "New York Times Democracy"

Huh what? Not sure what changed it and then changed it back. Economy maybe?

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #766 on: August 01, 2012, 11:29:14 AM »
Government Acts
The Issue

Members of your intelligence service have captured a spy gathering information in the civil service. Your interrogators have learned that the man known only as 'Solo' is acting on behalf of the government of Outer Bigtopia, which denies all knowledge and involvement.
The Debate

    "Shpies! There are shpies everywhere!" says Agent Brian Patel, checking the fruit bowl for bugs. "You can't trusht these foreigners! They act all nice and local and then BAM! They're away over the hill with military shecretsh. We should be keeping track of all of them with ankle braceletsh and wiretapsh to be sure they won't betray ush!"


    "I don't think we need to go quite that far," says Secret Agent Jacob Eliot. "Our security is fine. We did catch him after all. The real question is how much did he tell the Outer Bigtopian government. If we send our own spies to gather intelligence and, in light of recent events, bolster the funding of the intelligence agency, then we can learn for sure the intentions of our enemies."


    "And where will that get us?" asks Klaus Spirit, one of your older, more bitter spies. "Spying them back won't help us. If we send someone out there and THEY get caught what are we going to do? We should call those Bigtopians out on their scam and hit them were it hurts! Diplomatic sanctions will do for starters; we can throw those smug envoys out on their rear ends! Anyway, it's almost certainly not just Outer Bigtopia up to these kind of shenanigans, we ought to keep all embassies under police surveillance. We risk all sorts of trade sanctions, true, but it pays to be careful."


    "Do you realise what kind of havoc we would cause on an international level if we confront them about this?" asks Max de Vries, an ambassador to Outer Bigtopia over a secure satellite link. "No one need ever know this happened; officially that man doesn't exist. Most nations have some sort of espionage programme; it's nothing to raise a fuss about. We should just quietly execute Mr 'Solo' and move on."


    "But what if he discovered the plans I've been assembling for the moon cannon project?!" asks Brigadier Mary Johnson, one of your more insane military officers in a hushed whisper. "It's nothing official, something I've been doing in my spare time... but what if they've got wind of it?! We could all be in mortal danger! We've got to commence construction right now! Our esteemed leader, do I have permission to get Project Lunar Apocalypse underway?"

    This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.

    "Moon... cannon? Mortal danger? You're off your rocker," says General Flowers, scowling as he leafs through the budgets folder. "The reason we're being spied on is because we've become so aggressive and militant! It's only natural that other governments are going to check up on us. If we don't want to get spied on then there should be nothing worth looking for. All we need to do is massively reduce military expenditure. If nothing else, it at least puts more money into people's pockets than into the construction of glorified death machines."








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Re: NationStates
« Reply #767 on: August 01, 2012, 01:50:52 PM »
62 minutes ago: Kaeshar was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Liberal Democratic Socialists".
62 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Kaeshar, heavy industry must go to expensive lengths to dispose of waste.
1 day 12 hours ago: Kaeshar fell out of the regional Top 10% for Safest.
3 days 12 hours ago: Kaeshar was reclassified from "Liberal Democratic Socialists" to "New York Times Democracy"

Huh what? Not sure what changed it and then changed it back. Economy maybe?
Yes. Economic "freedom" went from low to moderate.

http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,5461.msg52171.html#msg52171

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #769 on: August 04, 2012, 05:06:45 AM »
obai sagua

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #770 on: August 04, 2012, 10:27:16 AM »
What.

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #771 on: August 04, 2012, 11:12:54 AM »
Inb4 all of us can no longer read English.

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #772 on: August 04, 2012, 12:53:44 PM »
Samuel/Aeridani everywhere
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Re: NationStates
« Reply #773 on: August 04, 2012, 01:06:35 PM »
The Issue

Several musicians have recently produced songs in which "Violet" sings silly and offensive things, causing outcries of horror from the Order of Violet.

The Debate

"THIS IS BLASPHEMY!" shouts May King, Grand High Poobah of the Order of Violet. "Our holy scriptures specifically forbid any portrayal of our prophet's most holy voice. We cannot permit people to slander and mock our prophet and insult all of us. These people are simply doing this to see if we are extremists. Death to the blasphemers!" xD

Speaking anonymously and from hiding, one of the musicians says, "It was just meant to be a joke! I never thought that they'd take it so seriously. I just wanted to give them a little ribbing like I do the other major religions of Pastafarianism and Frisbeetarianism." Pete Frederickson glances over their shoulder to see if anyone is watching, "Please don't try to figure out who I am. I'm scared for my safety. The government should protect my freedom to insult whomever I want. Freedom of speech should hold nothing sacred, not even God."

"Freedom of speech is important, but so is freedom of religion. Surely we can strike some sort of balance?" says Ivan Chandra, chief spokesperson for the TLOTRRSOC (the The Land of the Red Rainbow Society of Compromisers). "Freedom of speech comes with a responsibility. People must avoid anything that insults another's religion, and if they aren't willing to do it themselves, the government must enforce it." D:

"His Holiness, the Grand High Poobah of Violet, has the right idea, but the wrong religion," says Heather Peters, the Prelate of Primary Public Relations for the fanatical organization The Land of the Red Rainbow's Concerned Citizens for Our God. "This nation needs an official religion, and not support the Godless heathens who worship the idolatrous Violet. Appoint me as your spiritual adviser an I'll ensure that all people worship God in the correct way."

"They've got it all wrong. Freedom of speech isn't the problem, religion is!" shouts Samuel Sikkel, at a local AA (Atheists Anonymous) meeting. "If religion were outlawed, this problem would solve itself. Just send them in for medical treatment. After all, anyone who believes in some big invisible dude who can do anything is clearly nuts."

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #774 on: August 04, 2012, 01:20:59 PM »
This could very well be an US news headline.

Economic Collapse Looms!
The Issue

Big business, fed up with over-regulation in Kaeshar, are heading offshore in ever-increasing numbers.
The Debate

    "Good riddance!" says noted environmentalist William James. "Sniff that air! It's never been so clean! At last, our society is freeing itself from the consumer death-trap! I say it's time to take the final step and outlaw capitalism once and for all!"


    "This is a catastrophe waiting to happen," says the Chamber of Commerce. "Think of the consequences! Without big business, where do the jobs come from? Where do we get our medicine? Our cars? Our latest fashions? There are dozens of useless regulations the government could abolish today to make life easier for commerce, and it's high time they did."

Of course though, Bla would go for abolishing capitalism, but to me, the issue is outsourcing (as opposed to offshoring).

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #775 on: August 04, 2012, 01:22:37 PM »
bahahahaha Kaeshar is gonna go communist

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #776 on: August 04, 2012, 01:23:46 PM »
I don't know which one to choose.... maybe flip a coin for it.....

Edit: Flipped a virtual quarter (I could have flipped a real coin, but meh, lazy, lol), and came up heads, so, first option.

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #777 on: August 04, 2012, 01:33:50 PM »
KOL yes

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #778 on: August 04, 2012, 02:49:26 PM »
Just so you know, the first option will impact your economy negatively, and the second one will make it go up, according to the CIL Economic Guide.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kVvk-F8KYaoWMCXELe5T8WMewWCWF_tKGAjem-ZYqRg/edit?hl=en&pli=1

But yes, I'd go with the first option if my economy had stabilized at 100. Idk if I would currently. Most likely I would dismiss it and wait until my economy stabilizes at 100.

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Re: NationStates
« Reply #779 on: August 04, 2012, 02:50:17 PM »
kaeshar: socialist -> centrist -> welfare capitalism -> commies