Why worries me about this forum is,

[Darvince]

that the niveau goes down more and more. Here are 3 users, who constantly write nonsense and act like little children. i would be happy, if that the behavior stop.

[atomic7732]

This is might start an unneeded discussion about who is writing 'stupid' posts. And there is no reason to expect that by anyone saying something that these people will stop posting 'childish' remarks.

I googled niveau, in the first post it means maturity. Please use all one language in a post, that was confusing for a second.

[Darvince]

Well, instead of saying who is stupid or not we can follow some simple rules

1) Do not insult anyone
2) Do not make unneded posts (example: don't reply to a post and say "yes", "no", "ok" ecc... without adding anything. You can instead try to write an explanation)
3) Do not reply to your own posts. Edit the previous ones. (If they are the last of the topic. If you need to quote a post you made time ago you can do it )
4) Instead of opening new topics, try to look for open topics on the same argument
5) If your language isn't very good try to make as low mistakes as you can
6) Do not make a new topic in 2 minutes. Spend some time on your topic and try to find out your solution by yourself first.

Feel free to add comments or rules   

[atomic7732]

I think we all know what i mean and what i´m talking about.

[Darvince]

i think so, but you cannot stop them. We are in a free forum afterall

[deoxy99]

I don't like this topic. This is useless.

[atomic7732]

you may think what you want but start a topic about it.....bad idea

[deoxy99]

I don't like this topic. This is useless.

Haha, funny that you see it as useless. It's almost irony.

[Darvince]

ha, i just say what i think.
I´m sick of all that posts from darvince and deoxy and even more neutronstar. Its childish, its senseless. They post evry stuff they have just in mind. Its like they see a fly and then post here: wow i saw a fly while i used universe sandbox.

Its annoying. I would be happy, that behavior would stop. 

[atomic7732]

ha, i just say what i think.
I´m sick of all that posts from [user] and even more [user]. Its childish, its senseless. They post evry stuff they have just in mind. Its like they see a fly and then post here: wow i saw a fly while i used universe sandbox.

Please...

Do not insult anyone; it's very silly. Moreover you could be banned from the forum. A smiley don't solve the problem.
And don't make names. I will not.

I don't like this topic. this is useless.

This isn't a useless topic: you are arguing and this means that there is a problem.

I think that the most annoying "thing" is that many people make their posts without thinking sufficiently: I  mean that someone posts (for example) new feautures without thinking that they are already in Universe Sandbox, although not as good as they want ==> They could suggest an improvement instead of create a new topic for feauture that is already in the simulator.

Moreover (altough i have to admit that Dan is the person who have the last word on this) don't suggest feautures that are impossible or very hard to implement in Universe Sandbox. At least say "I would like this in US, even if it would need a lot of time" and not just "i want this in US and soon as possible". (For example don't ask  a spaceship, with characters inside controllable by the player, to fly around your new solar system: it could be very cool, yes, but it would need a lot of time and it wouldn't fit in the simulator. Again is just an example).

Do not be angry because something in U.S. doesn't work properly. It is made by a single person that cannot spend all his time programming. First post the problem in the forum and discuss it with Dan, or better, with someone that have found the same problem and have already fixed it.

Do not be angry because Dan is not doing new patches (as the previous paragraph).

There are many other examples of this kind...



Please tell me if you don't agree with some points.

[Darvince]

i agree 100% with you. And if i get banned, fine. I want that that ends.
How often did we hear now, that deoxy want real craters? Or a black hole?

i can´t stand it anymore

[deoxy99]

When I was a kid there was a piece of music software I was really excited about. I remember calling the company (what seemed like) every day asking when the new version would be out. I'm sure the guy I talked to got tired of hearing from me.

Andreas, I agree with many of your concerns, but I suspect that many of these questionable actions are evidence of enthusiasm. (and maybe I have a bad habit of looking at everything in a positive light)

I'm a huge proponent of open discussion and uncensored speech, and I'm glad you've brought this up. But I don't want to single anyone out and so I've edited the posts to remove their names.

And I have no interest in banning anyone.

Well, instead of saying who is stupid or not we can follow some simple rules

1) Do not insult anyone
2) Do not make unneded posts (example: don't reply to a post and say "yes", "no", "ok" ecc... without adding anything. You can instead try to write an explanation)
3) Do not reply to your own posts. Edit the previous ones. (If they are the last of the topic. If you need to quote a post you made time ago you can do it )
4) Instead of opening new topics, try to look for open topics on the same argument
5) If your language isn't very good try to make as low mistakes as you can
6) Do not make a new topic in 2 minutes. Spend some time on your topic and try to find out your solution by yourself first.

Feel free to add comments or rules  

I agree that these are a good set of guidelines (although #5 seems unnecessary as I really appreciate all the contributions from those who's primary language isn't English).


I know that many of you are excited about a new release and I do apologize for not having released a new version in a long time (a new version will be release very soon). Know that I am continuing to work on Universe Sandbox and have not given up any of my grand plans for want I ultimately want the software to become.

I'm so humbled that all of you are interested in Universe Sandbox to contribute to the forums. Let's all try to think a little harder before we post and realize that we're just little specks on a blue marble in orbit around a massive fire ball of fusion and that we are lucky to exist at all.

[atomic7732]

Wow, two double posts in a row.

To Andreas. If you really can't take it than stop going on the forum. And yes, maybe [user] and [user] say everything on their minds, but it get's everything out there in the open.

To FGHG. Your posts are always great, thought out and are the same as my thoughts. (At least in my view)

To SuperBova. By saying this topic was pointless and stupid, you made a lot of what Andreas said true.

[deoxy99]

that the niveau goes down more and more. Here are 2 users, who constantly write nonsense and act like little children. I would be happy, if that behavior changes.

Which 2 users? Let me guess... SuperBova and I?

[deoxy99]

Wow, two double posts in a row.

What exactly are double posts?

[Darvince]

which 2 users? Let me guess... SuperBova and I?

Yes. Those were the names I removed from the previous posts. So much for my attempt to keep names out of the discussion.

What exactly are double posts?

Posting a message and then posting another in the same forum before someone else has posted.

Messages have an edit button, so you can go back and add your thought to the first message without adding a new comment.

[deoxy99]

Oh, and I don't see how they say I'm so immature...

[deoxy99]

ha, i just say what i think.
I´m sick of all that posts from [user] and even more [user]. Its childish, its senseless. They post evry stuff they have just in mind. Its like they see a fly and then post here: wow i saw a fly while i used universe sandbox.

Its annoying. I would be happy, that behavior would stop.

Btw, we aren't that stupid, and they aren't senseless, let alone childish. If anyone here is posting just plain useless stuff here, it's you.

[Darvince]

I'm struggling to see how any more personal attacks will be useful in this discussion. So let's curtail them please.

[Darvince]

I remember when I first came to this site I was amazed how there were no personal attacks. I'm sorry to say that didn't last long.

This is the internet, which means that you will encounter people you don't get along with. Please understand that, and stop posting this when it's just gonna get people frustrated.

[deoxy99]

So here are the forum guidelines:

1) Be nice to everyone. (although feel free to complain about other people in personal messages to me)
2) Aim to make your posts meaningful.
3) Try not to reply to your own posts; just edit the previous one.
4) Instead of opening new topics, try to look for open topics on the same topic.

The Universe is amazing and we only have a short amount of time to experience it, let's work together instead of attacking each other.


I made a new section: Off Topic. I'll be moving this and other non-Universe Sandbox related topics there in the next day or two.

[Darvince]

I´m fine with that. And i don´t say personal attacks. I just say, what worries me and i think that should be accepted and maybe the people who named themself try to change that behavior. Like i want post something, that before i do that i think about: want others really read that?

So here are the forum guidelines:

1) Be nice to everyone. (although feel free to complain about other people in personal messages to me)
2) Aim to make your posts meaningful.
3) Try not to reply to your own posts; just edit the previous one.
4) Instead of opening new topics, try to look for open topics on the same topic.

The Universe is amazing and we only have a short amount of time to experience it, let's work together instead of attacking each other.


I made a new section: Off Topic. I'll be moving this and other non-Universe Sandbox related topics there in the next day or two.

[deoxy99]

I HATE YOU! (note to Dan, I'm just kidding, I'm just playing along with the argument.)

[atomic7732]

I think Andreas needs to get off, and take a break. The rules are good.

[deoxy99]

NO, THEY ARE NOT! 

[Darvince]

I HATE YOU! (note to Dan, I'm just kidding, I'm just playing along with the argument.)

what the? here is a exampl of this senseless ness it is so useless

[deoxy99]

Stop attacking other people! Please!

[atomic7732]

what the? here is a exampl of this senseless ness it is so useless

You can't declare it useless. Your point has no use declaring a useless post, don't reply to a pointless post, and they will give up.

[deoxy99]

what the? here is a exampl of this senseless ness it is so useless

You can't declare it useless. Your point has no use declaring a useless post, don't reply to a pointless post, and they will give up.

Yes, and just follow the rules that have been set!

[Darvince]

what the? here is a exampl of this senseless ness it is so useless

You can't declare it useless. Your point has no use declaring a useless post, don't reply to a pointless post, and they will give up.

Yes, and just follow the rules that have been set!

that is a simple solution but it is not right