Author Topic: Still waiting for UB3. (Read 14999 times)

JayPix2012 · « **on:** June 10, 2013, 08:46:29 PM »

I can't wait for Universe Sandbox 3 BETA to be released then later on down the road the full simulator. It has been ages since we heard about the next update for Universe Sandbox, so where's the Beta? Please release the beta ASAP. We are still waiting very patiently...., but for how long?

Darvince · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2013, 09:51:44 PM »

No, YOU are waiting and YOU are demanding that Dan release an unfinished, half-playable product. These things take a long time. Minecraft has recently been undergoing a complete redo of their code. They have been releasing snapshots that are still in line with their current system, but in the background all six of them have been working away, 10 hours a day, to get the new system out. Meanwhile, everyone on Dan's team is probably part-time on the project, which means a maximum of 2 or 3 hours a day. Only Dan can dedicate the full 8 or 9 hours, unless he too now has a "normal" job.

tuto99 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2013, 10:25:46 PM »

Quote from: JayPix2012 on June 10, 2013, 08:46:29 PM

I can't wait for Universe Sandbox 3 BETA to be released then later on down the road the full simulator. It has been ages since we heard about the next update for Universe Sandbox, so where's the Beta? Please release the beta ASAP. We are still waiting very patiently...., but for how long?

ASAP? You shouldn't be demanding Dan anything. Why can't you at least accept and apprectiate the fact that he and the team are working on the new release?

blotz · « **Reply #3 on:** June 11, 2013, 05:01:34 AM »

i find it ironic that you make these topics, knowing Dan will check them especially because they're in the Universe Sandbox 2 Discussion, which means wasting more time and less time for developing Ubox3. And okay,

"I can't wait"
"waiting very patiently"

JayPix2012 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 11, 2013, 08:22:10 AM »

I didn't mean for it to seem that way. Sorry if I did Dan and everyone else. Trust me I am still waiting for UB3.

JayPix2012 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 11, 2013, 08:26:21 AM »

ASAP? You shouldn't be demanding Dan anything. Why can't you at least accept and apprectiate the fact that he and the team are working on the new release?
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ASAP means "as soon as possible" not "release the beta now".

tuto99 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 11, 2013, 11:09:33 AM »

You should kinda fix your quoting.
And when you say ASAP, it's like you're demanding him to release the beta. He needs time to prepare the beta and release it. Once again, why can't you at least appreciate the fact that the team is working on the new release?

vh · « **Reply #7 on:** June 11, 2013, 11:50:09 AM »

i've actually found this site that will tell you when universe sandbox 3 will be released

http://www.thebulletin.org/content/doomsday-clock/overview

look at the clock on the right side of the screen. Each minute corresponds to one month left until universe sandbox 3!

JayPix2012 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 11, 2013, 06:17:28 PM »

tuto99, ASAP is short for As Soon As Possible, I meant release the beta when it can be released, even if that means waiting 6 or 7 or more months even those I didn't put that down in text.

Dan Dixon · « **Reply #9 on:** June 11, 2013, 11:21:04 PM »

I'm really humbled by your enthusiasm; thank you.

We're working on it. We'd been working on a new collision system for a few months, but it just wasn't working, so we scrapped it and started again. And recently... Chris has spent the last few weeks refactoring the code that handles how bodies relate to one another which specifically effects galaxies and rings around planets. We're taking our time to make the code robust and future proof since we hope to build upon this for years to come.

sean2323 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 12, 2013, 09:08:39 AM »

Quote from: Dan Dixon on June 11, 2013, 11:21:04 PM

I'm really humbled by your enthusiasm; thank you.

We're working on it. We'd been working on a new collision system for a few months, but it just wasn't working, so we scrapped it and started again.

I've been doing programming quite a bit recently, making small physics games on my spare time out of boredom, and I've found that if something as simple as collision doesn't work after about a week of trying, it's time to change it back, and move on to doing something a bit more important. Why not leave the new system for something like 3.0.1, since collision detection seems to already be in and working good enough?

Just my two cents.

Also, Pro-tip:
Making a nice video of most of US3's features might shut everyone up for a while

Dan Dixon · « **Reply #11 on:** June 12, 2013, 02:17:49 PM »

Quote from: sean2323 on June 12, 2013, 09:08:39 AM

...since collision detection seems to already be in and working good enough?

But it's not good enough.... It's has to be robust and awesome... At the moment it works well for a few types of collisions, but still doesn't handle the Moon colliding with Earth or two Earths colliding well at all.

Quote from: sean2323 on June 12, 2013, 09:08:39 AM

Making a nice video of most of US3's features might shut everyone up for a while

Fair point...

TrueCoppa · « **Reply #12 on:** June 12, 2013, 02:33:59 PM »

Quote from: sean2323 on June 12, 2013, 09:08:39 AM

Also, Pro-tip:
Making a nice video of most of US3's features might shut everyone up for a while

Agreed
Development time does not bother me at all as long as I know what's going on, I think it's important for a game in development to keep the fanbase and any potential new customers up to date on how development is going. Ideally you'd have something like a post every week saying what's happened in development during that past week, but I know that might not be feasible for a team as small as Universe Sandbox's - So just dropping a new video every now and again would be really nice.

smjjames · « **Reply #13 on:** June 12, 2013, 02:45:05 PM »

Quote from: sean2323 on June 12, 2013, 09:08:39 AM

Quote from: Dan Dixon on June 11, 2013, 11:21:04 PM
I'm really humbled by your enthusiasm; thank you.

We're working on it. We'd been working on a new collision system for a few months, but it just wasn't working, so we scrapped it and started again.

I've been doing programming quite a bit recently, making small physics games on my spare time out of boredom, and I've found that if something as simple as collision doesn't work after about a week of trying, it's time to change it back, and move on to doing something a bit more important. Why not leave the new system for something like 3.0.1, since collision detection seems to already be in and working good enough?

Just my two cents.

Also, Pro-tip:
Making a nice video of most of US3's features might shut everyone up for a while

Except that collision isn't simple in ubox and it IS an important part of the simulation.

Dan Dixon · « **Reply #14 on:** June 12, 2013, 04:22:45 PM »

The new collision system will be one of the key features of the new version... it has to be awesome, not just good enough.

And... there's still tons of other things to do. The UI is pretty messy right now and needs lots of work. It's not a single feature holding up the release.

TrueCoppa · « **Reply #15 on:** June 12, 2013, 04:51:53 PM »

Quote from: Dan Dixon on June 12, 2013, 04:22:45 PM

The new collision system will be one of the key features of the new version... it has to be awesome, not just good enough.

And... there's still tons of other things to do. The UI is pretty messy right now and needs lots of work. It's not a single feature holding up the release.

Thanks for the updates!

v.vsokubenko · « **Reply #16 on:** June 13, 2013, 11:00:48 AM »

Бета-версия выйдет в конце 2013 году, а финальный релиз - 2014.

smjjames · « **Reply #17 on:** June 13, 2013, 11:10:09 AM »

Quote from: v.vsokubenko on June 13, 2013, 11:00:48 AM

Бета-версия выйдет в конце 2013 году, а финальный релиз - 2014.

Using google translate:
The beta version will be released in late 2013, and the final release - 2014.

Vsok, are you one of the developers? No. Then you don't know when the beta will be released. It could be released in 2014.

Though I DO hope the beta is released this year.

Dan Dixon · « **Reply #18 on:** June 13, 2013, 11:25:23 AM »

smjjames... be nice.

Instead of the attitude inherent in the way you wrote:

Quote from: smjjames on June 13, 2013, 11:10:09 AM

Vsok, are you one of the developers? No. Then you don't know when the beta will be released.

You could have more calmly asked for a confirmation of this claim:

"Vsok, where did you hear that?"

And this is all my fault anyway...

I had posted on the blog that the beta would be out in 2013... so that might be what v.vsokubenko is basing his claim on... I have since revised the blog post to remove the specific dates.

I really want to get the beta out this year, but I can't promise this.

smjjames · « **Reply #19 on:** June 13, 2013, 11:26:54 AM »

Sorry for the attitude.

Dan Dixon · « **Reply #20 on:** June 13, 2013, 11:32:39 AM »

Thanks for the apology. Please welcome newcomers... not scare them away.

tuto99 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 13, 2013, 11:55:52 AM »

Hate to contradict, but I think vosk has been around for a while, don't you think?

blotz · « **Reply #22 on:** June 13, 2013, 03:24:37 PM »

in Dan's point of view, everyone is a newcomer. Except maybe like 2 people.

Dan Dixon · « **Reply #23 on:** June 13, 2013, 03:38:15 PM »

He is new in the last 3 months... either way... newcomer or not... let's be nice to everyone and not sport unnecessary and unwelcoming attitude.

blotz · « **Reply #24 on:** June 13, 2013, 03:44:16 PM »

k

P.S. Dan if you sell it right before the holidays it will gets lots of sales as everyone is looking for things to buy, and parents of kids would let them buy things as it is holiday.

at least from my point of view

tuto99 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 13, 2013, 03:45:46 PM »

Quote from: Dan Dixon on June 13, 2013, 03:38:15 PM

He is new in the last 3 months... either way... newcomer or not... let's be nice to everyone and not sport unnecessary and unwelcoming attitude.

Yes, I agree. We should all stop being so grumpy.

Darvince · « **Reply #26 on:** June 13, 2013, 07:30:20 PM »

From what I've noticed, miros571 is maybe vosk_1, but vosk_1 = v.vsokubenko

vh · « **Reply #27 on:** June 14, 2013, 03:30:23 AM »

but i found vosk decades ago!

/derail

v.vsokubenko · « **Reply #28 on:** June 15, 2013, 11:40:53 AM »

Now I am not dumb and kiddo. I was deleted my YouTube account. After removing my account, they removed my comments from history, see "Truth of Troll Wars I and I putted "+" to AlessiaCristallooo":
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php/topic,9753.msg106631.html#new

smjjames · « **Reply #29 on:** June 15, 2013, 03:21:54 PM »

Vosk, nobody here cares about that and nobody said you're dumb.