Author Topic: Bill S. 978 - About Copyright (Read 12722 times)

Bla · « **on:** July 02, 2011, 06:46:46 AM »

Have you heard/read about a bill in USA which could make it illegal to share videos of copyrighted materials (including games)? Only in The Free Country of USA, of course. But it still seems ridiculous... Here's a video about it:

Bill S.978: The End of Let's Plays and Gaming Streams?
The video also has a link where all you hopefully angry USAmerican gamers can complain to your law-makers.

Link to the bill itself: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s112-978

What are your thoughts about it?

I think the whole idea of copyright is one of the many sad results of a money-driven world, just like the planned obsolecense of games (well, pretty much anything which can be sold). It scares me every time I upload a video on YouTube.

I think it'd be much easier and less scary if people would just have to be credited for their work.
Now that we live in such a world, I do see why movie makers etc. don't want their movies uploaded, because they have to make money. But how any video game company (like those who made Gran Turismo 5) can be against it is beyond me. It simply puzzles me why they won't let us upload our races to YouTube, it's free advertising and, as they said in the video above, every time you play the game, you have a different experience (as opposed to movies), so it shouldn't harm them.

deoxy99 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2011, 09:14:55 AM »

Someone on YouTube commented about it, and I didn't really react to it, but now I am mad at the United States Government.

The USA is getting less free each day it seems. You will soon not be able to do much, and I will soon move away from the USA to get away from it, but that may not happen and the government will snap out of it and stop doing this (nearly impossible from what I see).

Naru523 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 02, 2011, 09:42:43 AM »

I've read about it. To be honest, it's quite stupid and unfair to take down almost half of Youtube's videos, since that's usually one's life as a Youtuber. Hopefully the government unapproves this, or the future may be dramatic.

I would give a more detailed statement, but I just woke up.

atomic7732 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 02, 2011, 10:01:34 AM »

idk but on Steam the other day (June 27 i think) they announced that something in the supreme court passed saying that games are protected by the 1st amendment...

I agree with you as well Bla, it is free advertising, so that's quite stupid. Plus watching a game being played isn't as fun as PLAYING it. And hopefully this wouldn't apply to free games? There would be no point in that... And with the credit thing, everything I release is usually under a Creative Commons license telling you can use it, but to give credit to the author.

That's why Linux shall rule the world! FREE SOURCE CODE FOR ALL!!!

In Three Days Grace's words:
"LET'S START A RIOT! A RIOT! LET'S START A RIOT!"

Naru523 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 02, 2011, 10:04:21 AM »

I have a feeling... Internet vs. Government. That's just in my head, anyways.

atomic7732 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 02, 2011, 10:07:31 AM »

I remember 7th grade in school... You can't be accused for some law that wasn't in effect until after you did it... So no worries at least.

I don't know if that applies to the fact that you can still keep the video up. $:-\$

Bla · « **Reply #6 on:** July 02, 2011, 10:41:40 AM »

I don't think the law will make it and be implemented.

But I still think, if it were implemented, that the companies could tell you to delete your videos.

Also, I'm sorry, but I don't like freedom rants.

USA has never been a free country. The only country which would be completely free would be a complete anarchy. Freedom isn't always good. You will always need traffic rules, laws telling people not to kill each other and things like that.
But I think USA gets some freedoms completely wrong, because some freedoms are good, and others aren't. I think USA gets it completely wrong when it thinks people of the same gender marrying each other is more dangerous than everyone being able to buy weapons.

Naru523 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 02, 2011, 10:44:40 AM »

Well six states (sixth was New York as of 2011) allowed same-gender marriages, so kol.

Bla · « **Reply #8 on:** July 02, 2011, 10:53:07 AM »

I know. I'm just saying it because most people who go on freedom rants (possibly not deoxy99) are conservatives who oppose it, but think everyone should be allowed to own guns, etc. It's just so incredibly hypocritical.

And in Denmark, we can't either. We can enter civil unions. I personally don't care, I'd never step into a church and get married, and how any gay person wants to have anything to do with that religion is beyond me to the same levels as a Jew having anything to do with Nazism (here I could also use gays as an example, since the Nazis killed them too, but the Jew/Nazi contrast always seems to shine brightest). Being able to call it marriage, that's fine I guess.

When we'll get a socialist/social democratic government later this year, I think we'll finally become a secular country and I think discriminating against LGBT people will be banned in the church.

atomic7732 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 02, 2011, 11:35:25 AM »

If you become a socialist country the US will ban users that are socialist and we can't talk to you anymore.

Bla · « **Reply #10 on:** July 02, 2011, 11:46:27 AM »

We've had several socialist and social democratic governments before. The social democrats is the party which had been our government the most years. So...

Naru523 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 02, 2011, 11:58:01 AM »

Vietnam is socialist and they aren't banned ...

atomic7732 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 02, 2011, 12:01:36 PM »

One more country will make the limits.

Naru523 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 02, 2011, 12:22:11 PM »

Laos.

Darvince · « **Reply #14 on:** July 02, 2011, 12:30:15 PM »

Quote from: Bla on July 02, 2011, 10:41:40 AM

The only country which would be completely free would be a complete anarchy.

This is why Somalia is the only "free" country. And noone likes Somalia.

Naru523 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 02, 2011, 12:43:02 PM »

Quote from: Darvince on July 02, 2011, 12:30:15 PM

And noone likes Somalia.

Quote

The current Transitional Federal Government is approved by the Arab League (AL), Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC), the African Union (AU) and Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD).

/facepalm

Darvince · « **Reply #16 on:** July 02, 2011, 12:44:16 PM »

/facepalm

atomic7732 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 02, 2011, 01:01:21 PM »

We're Somalia and we've got pirates.

/facepalm

Darvince · « **Reply #18 on:** July 02, 2011, 01:04:49 PM »

/me

* Darvince

/me

Naru523 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 02, 2011, 10:01:50 PM »

Here's the bill if you guys want to read it.

atomic7732 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 02, 2011, 11:19:21 PM »

All you have to do is not record a video game that costs $2,500, or not post 10 videos in 180 days. Post a really really really long video every 19 days and you're alright.

Take that government!

Dan Dixon · « **Reply #21 on:** July 03, 2011, 08:16:04 AM »

If this bill passes I'll provide a clear exemption for non-commercial and educational use of video taken from Universe Sandbox.

I'm also working on very open ended commercial license for video and images. I'll be posting that soon.

atomic7732 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 03, 2011, 09:07:13 AM »

Notch says he'll probably end up doing something like that too, iirc. (Your first paragraph)

Bla · « **Reply #23 on:** November 16, 2011, 07:53:36 AM »

Dun dun dun.

http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet/?cl=1392740568

FiahOwl · « **Reply #24 on:** November 16, 2011, 08:05:55 AM »

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Bla · « **Reply #25 on:** November 16, 2011, 08:44:58 AM »

As long as there is money, there will always be corruption.
But politicians being able to have their campaigns financed by corporations with lots of money probably helps a lot. ^^
(At least the politicians which want to cut taxes and improve everything for the corporations)

deoxy99 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 16, 2011, 09:44:32 AM »

I actually wish our country was socialist (and when I was typing this, I was so tempted to capitalize socialism).

Bla · « **Reply #27 on:** November 16, 2011, 10:32:08 AM »

I wish the entire world was socialist.

deoxy99 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 16, 2011, 10:59:36 AM »

Me too.

smjjames · « **Reply #29 on:** November 16, 2011, 11:20:16 AM »

Only problem is that the socialist/communist system just doesn't work very well economically in the long run.

Yes I know people would point out China, but I'm referring to the former Soviet Union and China does have it's own problems with the economy among other stuff, and it's more of a hybrid.