Politics

[unl0cker]

I give up... did I mentioned some of them... scientists?

I'm done with abortion and global warming. Back when another topic arises.

[unl0cker]

You know why I dont reply to u anymore right? Because you can't make heads or tails of your ideas.  You really should change your nick to Blind.

[Bla]

You know why I dont reply to u anymore right? Because you can't make heads or tails of your ideas.  You really should change your nick to Blind.

Who was this a reply to?

Since you had just triple-posted before I posted, I assumed your next post would be a response to my post.

This goes way beyond any of our knewlodge. No one here is qualified to talk about this. So, I wouldn't exchange the word of these people (that after stating these facts are getting no financing whatsoever:

Syun-Ichi Akasofu – Professor and Director, International Arctic Research Center

John Christy – Professor, Department of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama in Huntsville and a Lead Author of Chapter 2 of the IPCC Third Assessment Report

Ian Clark – Professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa

Eigil Friis-Christensen – Director, Danish National Space Center and Adjunct Professor, University of Copenhagen

Richard Lindzen – Professor, Department of Meteorology, M.I.T.

Patrick Michaels – Research Professor, Department of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia

Patrick Moore – Co-founder, Greenpeace

Nir Shaviv – Professor, Institute of Physics, Hebrew University of Jerusalem

Frederick Singer – Professor Emeritus, Department of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia

Roy Spencer – Research Scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville

Carl Wunsch – Professor, Department of Oceanography, M.I.T.

Bert Bolin - He was professor of meteorology at Stockholm University for 30 years

for the word of (that are having money pumped into their pieces by the tens of millions:

Seth Bornstein, BBC Weather, University of Maryland News Desk, Hadley Centre for Climate change, and others unknown cheaters.


This is politicians playing politics on people. This is what I see.

Anyway, I will restate the posts I deleted: It is really just ignorance in a nutshell. It is just like those creationists who shout 100 or so scientists they claim are against evolution.

It is an argument to authority, nothing else.

Also, even if you can find scientists who support your cause, the majority of scientists still agree that global warming exists and is caused by humans. So if simply the number of scientists is all that matters to you, you should try putting your numbers in perspective.

However, if you say you don't understand the issue of global warming [i.e. none of us are qualified to speak on the subject], I wouldn't suggest that you continue the discussion either. But that doesn't mean people can't understand the evidence other scientists have discovered. And if you really want to understand a subject, you need to understand the evidence, counting the number of people who says x who seem qualified doesn't work.

You know why I dont reply to u anymore right? Because you can't make heads or tails of your ideas.  You really should change your nick to Blind.

Calling me blind is simply name calling, but I'd like to see what you base it on, to explain how I can't make heads or tails of my ideas. I'm Danish and I may not understand all of the metaphors you use.

[Bla]

"You just did" duhh Come on, how infantile can your replies be. You are quoting me around, and I am avoid your replies. And you of course did notice that. Have I to explain to you everything like you are 5 yrs old despise you not being one?

I'm not replying to you anymore... "you just did" duhhhh hehehe

- You are ugly
- no you are.
- no you are
- nono you ARE.

Let's not be kids. Let kids be kids.


Going back now! AND replaying to your spectrum argument, and mad because you pulled me back into the discussion I don't want to be in anymore....

If you call the "popes" of weather research, ignorance in a nutshell, then I don't know what else. That there was a personal attack! And deserved my mocking of a probable nickname. OR you think these people know nothing of what they are saying.

Have you ever see Al Gore do anything in your benefit? Do you even know who he is? Have you consider Agenda 21? Have you ever consider what a smart meter will do to you and yours?

Things you must think about before analyzing the data and studies that are presented to us, layman. You ARE a layman in this subject. So am I, and everybody here. What I am not a layman in is in politics. That subject I own and understand.

And I gotta tell you, if Al Gore is in, man... is a scam. BE SURE OF IT! Carbon credits? Please...

Going back to the science behind all this, as I understand, IF CO2 was having any heating impact in the weather, the temp should be rising from the top of the atmosphere (close to the equator line) , down. When the oposite is what is happening.

Please, know when you were defeated, and live to fight another day. Or put your head in the sand and risk your arse being eaten by a lion.

Do you still consider this your reply to my new post, or do you want to edit based on the changes I may have made?

[Darvince]

i don't even know what just happened other than unl0cker trying to shame us all for not being 40 and conservative

[atomic7732]

Going back to the science behind all this, as I understand, IF CO2 was having any heating impact in the weather, the temp should be rising from the top of the atmosphere (close to the equator line) , down. When the oposite is what is happening.

What evidence supports this as being what "should" happen?

Don't just say "go search for yourself". Believe me, if I could, I would spend all my time just absorbing knowledge and debating how to make Earth perfect. But I can't, so actually provide your own sources supporting your arguments. Haven't you learned to cite your sources when you were in school?

[unl0cker]

i don't even know what just happened other than unl0cker trying to shame us all for not being 40 and conservative

No, not shame! Don't be ashamed of not knowing something. As we discussed , we all are born with no knowledge. It is human not to know, but also human to want to know. BE ASHAMED of not going after the answers.  What I want is for you to think for yourself not to be a damn robot.

I'm not conservative. I like to think. A LOT! Probably is what happens with one when they put their TV sets on the trash can as I did years ago.

But you know what guys. I really don't know why I came back. Indeed I have no friends here, almost no one here sees eye to eye, and the ones that do like vh, rather keep to themselves. I don't even play US2 or 3 anymore, even tho I have access to it all.

So... why did I? I'm grateful for this app tho, as it showed me a passion I had and I did not even knew I had, which is 3D imagery.

So, to conclude. I'm all wrong here. I;m the discord maker, the disagreer, the black light of this forum. So why?

Nothing come to mind other than helping yourselves. Apparently that help is not wanted. So this is it for us. I hope you guys have a wonderful life, full of cherishing moments and happiness. Be good, and goodbye.

PS: I removed my personal attack post as you wished. I'll be glad if you as a admin of this forum deactivate my username. Thank you.

[Bla]

But you know what guys. I really don't know why I came back. Indeed I have no friends here, almost no one here sees eye to eye, and the ones that do like vh, rather keep to themselves. I don't even play US2 or 3 anymore, even tho I have access to it all.

So... why did I? I'm grateful for this app tho, as it showed me a passion I had and I did not even knew I had, which is 3D imagery.

So, to conclude. I'm all wrong here. I;m the discord maker, the disagreer, the black light of this forum. So why?

Nothing come to mind other than helping yourselves. Apparently that help is not wanted. So this is it for us. I hope you guys have a wonderful life, full of cherishing moments and happiness. Be good, and goodbye.

PS: I removed my personal attack post as you wished. I'll be glad if you as a admin of this forum deactivate my username. Thank you.

I don't see you as a black light of the forum. You've clearly done many good things in the Universe Sandbox 2 forum, which is helpful. However, some of the things you post don't seem rational to me, I like to point it out when I see that. Your tone towards some us has seemed pointlessly harsh at times, such as saying I'm like talking to a wall or calling me blind etc, your discussion with Darvince and Atomic also seemed a bit mocking in style. I've also written a bit harsly recently in my discussions, I know.
It makes discussions boring.

I don't care about the personal attack. I didn't want you to remove it, just to explain why you think what you did, that I couldn't make head or tails in my ideas.

Also, I don't have the power to deactivate your username.

[blotz]

he's a Glowbal Moderator not an admin

[Bla]

Interesting.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/QWH8TFT

[blotz]

OMG WHAT
"I don't play us 2 or 3 even though I have access to it all"
WAT BETA CAME OUT?

[atomic7732]

http://www.reddit.com/r/QuotesPorn/comments/1m6pn2/we_must_do_away_with_this_absolutely_specious/

[blotz]

-snip-

damn this sucks

[Yqt1001]

I heard an interesting comparison in history class today.

In Medieval Europe a lot of the wealth was with the king, under feudalism the peasants would pay their king for protection and the king was in charge of basically everything in order for the peasants to be safe.

Then came the Turks stopping land trade with Asia and the prices for spices increasing drastically, which at that time was probably equal in importance to Medieval Europeans as is Chinese goods today. This lead to the age of exploration and Europeans developing the ships to do sea based trade. This was a lot safer, faster and considerably cheaper. Combined with the influx of cheaper spices, North American goods also began to take off in Europe, sugar and tobacco primarily. We like to think furs was important because for centuries that's all our economy was, but no not really.

This influx of cheap, exotic and foreign goods made European products really uncompetitive at the time. Unemployment was huge as there were simply no more jobs, it is said that it was at this time that Western culture shifted towards the "women in the kitchen only" idea as men needed jobs. Before this women were just as important in society. The slaved based labour overseas was incredibly competitive, creating a massive wealth gap. This made merchants who traded overseas many times richer than kings.

This shift happened around the 1600s, about 200 years before the industrial revolution. In the industrial revolution, the unemployment rate dropped incredibly quickly as economies began trading goods their own goods again. The infrastructure to make the globalized economy we have today simply wasn't there 200 years ago and the best option was local industries.

Then came the current globalized economy we have today. Although the richest people in the world aren't merchants, as part of the globalized economy we have basically all money traded is overseas just as it was when foreign goods were incredibly competitive against the European goods in Europe in the 1600s.

I wonder what kind of revolution will more than likely bring all these jobs back. There will likely be something within our lifetimes.

[Darvince]

Were there jobs everywhere before the first capitalist society?

[matty406]

The US government has started it's lockdown and the value of the dollar is falling. One dollar is about half the value of one pound sterling.

[FiahOwl]

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[Bla]

Meanwhile in Denmark... Today is the annual opening of the parlament day. I borrowed a Unity List party flag and joined the demonstration outside the parlament after college.



There were speeches and music on the stage. The protest was against the many rightist economic policies that the current government has been following, such as reducing the corporate taxes from 25% to 22% and limiting the support for those who have lost their jobs because of the crisis, while refusing to take any serious steps to provide jobs for them.

It is hard for me to see why a coalition of Socialist People's Party, Social Democrats and Radical Left is doing this - Radical Left is somewhat economically monetarist, but some of these policies are so clearly are against the things they wrote in their plans before the election.

Anyway here are the rest of the pictures from the demonstration.

People enter the parlament square from the four smaller demonstrations around the city during the day:





The demonstration:

[blotz]

i feel so illiterate

[vh]

[Bla]

A few photos from yesterday's antifascist sticker action, where we removed stickers from ugly organizations like "Denmarks National Front" where we found them and put up some better ones in southern Copenhagen.

[Bla]

Etc.

[vh]

is that a blue traffic signal light in 2.jpg

[atomic7732]

sounds like vandalism but ok

idk how that works though

[Darvince]

bla is literally a rebel now he's not just spamming forums with his communist ideology and affecting all the forum's constituents

[atomic7732]

til being part of a political party is being a rebel

[Bla]

The traffic light is green I think, well, Paint says 141 red, 254 green and 252 blue kol. It's Darvince-colored.

Putting up the stickers is entirely legal. We agreed before the action not to put them in places where they would block sight through windows or stuff like that.

[blotz]

wow there's bicycle routes and people routes for crossing
guess danish people like bikes

[Bla]

wow there's bicycle routes and people routes for crossing
guess danish people like bikes

Bikes are a much less pollutive, more healthy, cheaper and more space-efficient alternative to cars.


Campaign stickers from Unity List/Red-Green Alliance in Copenhagen for this municipal election in November:
"Green for bikes. Red for cars."

[matty406]

inb4 cars are outlawed by 2016