[20:34] <GurrenLagannTSS> UI's multiplier = SSB's multiplier x (((UI's vaule in V&J's chart - SSB's vaule in V&J's chart) - (SSB's vaule in V&J's chart - SSG's vaule in V&J's chart)) x 50) - a useful formula i made
[20:34] <shimao> so what's the power level of trump
[20:34] <shimao> can you calculate that?
[20:35] <GurrenLagannTSS> impossible
[20:35] <GurrenLagannTSS> we dont know the base pl of Trump
[20:35] <GurrenLagannTSS> any figures?
[20:36] <shimao> let's go with 2019
[20:37] <GurrenLagannTSS> 2019 x 13,850,000,000 = 27,963,150,000,000
[20:38] <GurrenLagannTSS> is UI Trump
[20:40] <GurrenLagannTSS> shimao: 2019 x 1,052,600,000,000 = 2,125,199,400,000,000 = MUI Trump
[20:43] <GurrenLagannTSS> MUI = Mastered Ultra Instinct
[20:44] <shimao> who would win: 1 MUI Trump to 2125 trillion normal trumps
[20:46] <GurrenLagannTSS> 2125 trillion base Trumps
[20:46] <shimao> y tho
[20:47] <GurrenLagannTSS> 2019 x 2,125,000,000,000,000 = 4,290,375,000,000,000 > 2,125,199,400,000,000
[20:47] <shimao> ok what about 2125/2019 trillion normal trumps
[20:47] <shimao> so just over 1T
[20:48] <GurrenLagannTSS> Now its MUI Trump
[20:49] <shimao> y tho
[20:50] <GurrenLagannTSS> 2019 x (2,125,000,000,000,000 / 2,019,000,000,000,000) = 2,125 < 2,125,199,400,000,000
[20:51] <shimao> no, 2125/2019 trillion means (2125/2019) * 1E12
[20:52] <GurrenLagannTSS> let me do again
[20:54] <GurrenLagannTSS> nope, still a little bit weaker
[20:54] <shimao> yeah but at that point it's very close
[20:54] <shimao> and i would expect the second order effects dominate, so you can't just add up power levels anymore
[20:54] <GurrenLagannTSS> 2019 x ((2125/2019) * 1E12) = 2,125,000,000,000,000 < 2,125,199,400,000,000
[20:55] <shimao> yeah but like i'm saying you gotta look at the second order effects once the power levels are so close
[20:55] <shimao> plus how do we know power levels add linearly?
[20:56] <GurrenLagannTSS> But yeah, MUI Trump would still win because 1.052501238236750866765725606736 trillion normal trumps is just 1.052501238236750866765725606736 trillion individual normal trumps
[20:56] <GurrenLagannTSS> And each normal trump's power level is only 2019
[20:57] <GurrenLagannTSS> 1 kamehameha from MUI Trump would kill then all
[20:57] <GurrenLagannTSS> So MUI Trump will win
[20:58] <shimao> i see so power levels are sublinear
[20:58] <shimao> now the next question is
[20:58] <shimao> how many normal trumps would it take to overpower mui trump?
[20:59] <shimao> does there even exist such a finite quantity?
[21:00] <GurrenLagannTSS> shimao: Nope, any number of normal trumps will be defeated by MUI Trump unless they work together
[21:01] <shimao> yes, suppose they are working together
[21:06] <GurrenLagannTSS> When the trumps work together, the fight will most likely to end in 2 ways
[21:06] <GurrenLagannTSS> 1. A draw - The power levels are soo close together, that it gonna end in a draw, because both trumps will give up
[21:08] <GurrenLagannTSS> shimao: 2. MUI Trump wins - If MUI Trump uses a attack that hits every point, the base trumps will die, and then MUI Trump wins