Author Topic: varieties of death (Read 7281 times)

vh · « **on:** January 11, 2016, 09:43:22 PM »

pick one and post below which you choose and why

1. normal death, you cease to exist for all eternity
2. after death you can still think normally with your current capabilities of thought and memory and so forth, yet without sensory input for all eternity

vh · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2016, 09:43:48 PM »

2.
because imagine how much you could do with that time.
also existence is cool

vh · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2016, 09:44:18 PM »

yqt picked one because he doesn't want to be stuck in his own mind

DiamondMiner10 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 12, 2016, 07:52:30 AM »

i choose c none of the above

tuto99 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 12, 2016, 01:48:16 PM »

1....
for eternity im going to freak out at the fact that im dead

DiamondMiner10 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2016, 04:26:49 PM »

2 would be horrifying u are aware that ur existing n stuff but u can't use any of ur senses so 1 would actually be better

blotz · « **Reply #6 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:09:08 PM »

the jaunt is literally #2

vh · « **Reply #7 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:14:44 PM »

>no one chooses 2
everyone is figuratively weaksauce
come on guys

FiahOwl · « **Reply #8 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:19:13 PM »

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matty406 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:21:51 PM »

What's the point of having an eternity to think with no means to act on it. 1.

blotz · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:23:15 PM »

1. yeah id prolly go insane if i choosed 2

vh · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:24:06 PM »

Quote from: FiahOwl on January 12, 2016, 08:19:13 PM

2

Because eventually I'd die anyways as the pure amount of memories that I forge in this ethereal dimension composed of solely me overwrite everything that I once was. And then all that will be left is a computer with the brainpower of a brain, to wonder forever, to think everything that could be thought.

what do you mean by that?
not that this affects the validity of your view point, which i think i sort of understand, but it's really a fatalistic idea to suggest that even the very act of thought will kill you.
as if the fundamental effect of conscious thought is as a lethal toxin.

vh · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:29:56 PM »

ok the thing about people who feel trapped in scenario 2 is, don't you realize you are already trapped?

human beings are unimaginably constrained already. to another alien species, the human condition probably sounds as horrifying to them as scenario 2 sounds to us.

morever, don't you realize that we are already trapped in our brains? that piece of cake sitting in front of you. you don't even know if it exists! that cake only exists inside your mind, and so does everything else in the world.

sure, you might to mad a few times in this eternity, but can it really be that in all of infinite time, you cannot devise a method to amuse yourself? do you truly believe yourself to be so incapable of adapting to the world around you?

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DiamondMiner10 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2016, 09:20:13 PM »

if you still "exist" after you die eventually someone will find out a way to pull you back into existence by getting ur memories into a computer or something like that, so you won't realize you're in "the void" at all because since there is no time there everything in real life happens instantly to you

but what I'm actually wondering is how the "entity of you" or memories and mind put together/consciousness ~~tries to steer uncontrollably around the word soul~~ exists

Darvince · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2016, 09:30:17 PM »

The point of this thought exercise, however, isn't so much how this state comes to be, but rather, which one you would rather choose. As skirt is very afraid of nothingness, he chose the second option.

DiamondMiner10 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2016, 09:43:29 PM »

so its all about which one u fear slightly less

Darvince · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2016, 09:51:35 PM »

Bla · « **Reply #18 on:** January 13, 2016, 03:55:23 AM »

I think I'd choose 1. 2 might give lots of options for interesting thoughts, but it doesn't sound very enjoyable with no sensory input.

vh · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2016, 06:29:35 AM »

ok what if you got to share thoughts telepathically with one other person in scenario 2

Darvince · « **Reply #20 on:** January 13, 2016, 07:34:11 AM »

i only care about socialization because biology so it wouldn't make much difference to me

plus, after a long enough time, our personalities would become so intermixed that the two of us would be virtually one person, having the same knowledge and memories of our time in this nothingness, becoming one. but it would be cool while it lasted for the first 100000 years.

Bla · « **Reply #21 on:** January 13, 2016, 09:36:24 AM »

Quote from: vh on January 13, 2016, 06:29:35 AM

ok what if you got to share thoughts telepathically with one other person in scenario 2

Probably more interesting, but I still don't imagine it to be very enjoyable, so still no.

vh · « **Reply #22 on:** January 13, 2016, 10:27:20 AM »

ok what about 10 people? 10 billion?

Darvince · « **Reply #23 on:** January 13, 2016, 10:30:27 AM »

same situation for both, it will just take longer

Bla · « **Reply #24 on:** January 13, 2016, 11:03:26 AM »

Quote from: vh on January 13, 2016, 10:27:20 AM

ok what about 10 people? 10 billion?

No matter the amount of people, I don't really imagine it to be an enjoyable life only being able to share thoughts with people. Then again it's very hard to imagine what it's like, but the closest I can come is a bit like lying inactive in a hospital bed all the time and only being able to talk to people. Even if feeling no pain, it doesn't seem very enjoyable.

Darvince · « **Reply #25 on:** January 13, 2016, 11:09:39 AM »

I was imagining it more as a telepathic fashion.

Bla · « **Reply #26 on:** January 13, 2016, 11:11:19 AM »

Yes me too but I've never tried that so I can't relate to whether it's enjoyable in the long term.

vh · « **Reply #27 on:** January 13, 2016, 11:26:12 AM »

ok what if you had senses but were constrained to your bedroom w/ no way for anything to go in or out (aka no Internet?

Darvince · « **Reply #28 on:** January 13, 2016, 11:33:47 AM »

eternity in any capacity unless there is some continual differential input seems like it would become terribly boring

tuto99 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 13, 2016, 12:02:19 PM »

I'd still choose 1, no matter what.
My point being, no sensory input sounds frightening and if I don't know that I'm dead once I'm dead, I'd much rather prefer that over anything else.