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New Galaxies
« on: January 30, 2010, 02:37:17 PM »
I was recently looking at galaxies in Google Earth and I stumbled upon 3 distinct spirals that I never heard of before. Does anyone know the name of these, or are they undiscovered?


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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2010, 05:56:00 PM »
Do you have the RA and Dec of the galaxies? I can look them up on Virtual Telescope.

Edit: I see tehm.

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2010, 06:03:50 PM »
Arata, are you sure those coordinates are correct, I get nothing on the first two, trying for third object. Do you know the epoch (J2000, J2004...)?

Edit: No, nothing. I do get faint blobs though. I can search it on SIMBAD, but that brings up alot. I tried the first on simbad but got nothing.

I searched the third, and got the best one which was this:


Name
distance arcsecs
type
coordinates

[BFS2004] V160
13.33  
RR*  
00 46 14.30  +40 43 22.7  

Sadly, noe came up as galaxies, the one above is an RR Lyrae variable.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2010, 06:17:15 PM by NeutronStar »

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2010, 06:45:27 PM »
I don;t understand what you are asking, but I can tell you them they
are above the andromeda galaxy,  in a small grey box above the galaxy.

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2010, 06:47:18 PM »
When I looked at the coordinates, they are below the galaxy.

A gray box?

Edit: That's below. You are upside down. You really had to label them? I noticed it was you. I found the co-ords then I saw infos and thought that was it, the gray box was there and I clicked on the info, it said Galaxy 3 and knew this was it. Hmmm... No I do not know, I will research it thought.

Edit 2: No that isn't you... I don't think
« Last Edit: January 30, 2010, 06:55:54 PM by NeutronStar »

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2010, 06:55:14 PM »
Here

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2010, 06:56:33 PM »
YOu are upside down.  ;D ;D ;D Read edit's above

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2010, 07:02:36 PM »
O,h sorry  :D
But are they discovered, or am I the first person to find them?

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2010, 07:03:06 PM »
I did find Globular Cluster Bol 379

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2010, 07:05:26 PM »
O,h sorry  :D
But are they discovered, or am I the first person to find them?

They may not be as SimBad doesn't bring them up... Yet, it is in the images, and someone labeled them as galaxies, but no official designation. In my search I got a bunch of RR Lyraes and variables. One globular cluster and a high proper motion star.

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2010, 07:09:29 PM »
I searched what I will call "AAGS (Arata's Andromeda Galaxy Search) 001" (new galaxy.jpg) within an arc minute, and, sadly to say, nothing came up. Other than RR Lyraes and Variables.

Edit: You are the proud new owner of a galaxy! I think.

SIMBAD search

Below is an image of the objects within 2.76 arcminutes that are on the simbad database.
And below that is another image that has your galaxies approximate location in the sky!
« Last Edit: January 30, 2010, 07:23:27 PM by NeutronStar »

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2010, 08:01:25 PM »
OMG I AM?  :o 'insert happy dance here'
what should i call them?

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2010, 08:21:32 PM »
I'm not sure if you did seeing as they are on GE in good quality... Yet, SIMBAD doesn't bring it up.

Try to consult a professional agency to see if it has a designation. Do not say you think you found it, just ask if it has a designation. If it doesn't try to get someone to log it in a search or something. You most likely can't name it, since they are so faint, no one with a backyard telescope is gonna find it. It probably is magnitude 18 or something.

Have you heard of PlanetQuest (not the NASA one)? When it comes out, you will search data to see if there are real extrasolar planets, orbiting other stars, and it will go in "Your Discoveries" and you discovered an extrasolar planet. But since it is a target star... thousands of other people will verify it with you. So it's not really yours. But whatever. Then again, I'm not sure how it works.

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2010, 08:27:10 PM »
Who am I gonna consult? ???

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2010, 08:33:11 PM »
Not sure, but I think I have located a star in the image, but I can't find the one next to it...

I also found the triangle, possibly, I didn;t check coordinates yet.

8:57 pm MST - So far, the two upper stars of the triangle stars have a good position. I am verifying the stars and the location of "your" galaxy.

NEW DATA:

bright upper left triangle star... DESIGNATION... [BFS2004] V117

est. coord. - 0h46m11.75s +40d41m55s
GE coord. -- 0h46m11.56s +40d41m59s

IRCS cood. 00h46m11.67s +40d41m54.6s (based on GE query) - located 4.57 asec away from query.

POSITION based on query... POSITIVE



upper right triangle star... DESIGNATION... [BFS2004] V106

est. coord. - 0h46m10.90s +40d41m50s
GE coord. -- 0h46m10.51s +40d41m56s

IRCS coord.00h46m10.84s +40d41m51.5s (based on GE query) - located 5.86 asec away from query

POSITION based on query... POSITIVE



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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2010, 08:44:44 PM »
Did you put the information of the galaxies there? I mean the i's.

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2010, 09:05:38 PM »
No, in the previous posts I said I thought it was you. I found it wasn't, they wanted to know how many galaxies there were.

Btw, if you haven't noticed, I have been analyzing the stars. I think everything is matching. I found V117 and V106.

I also found a galaxy field in the "gray box" to the south of V117.
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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2010, 09:23:31 PM »
I think I have some bad news...

I'm sorry... but, your galaxies... they... err... don't exist...   :-\

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2010, 09:30:03 PM »
Wait... It does exist!

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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2010, 09:47:54 PM »
I found this in a reply to the "i".

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=977821

I found it on skymap, it is uncatalogued. I questioned it as it was so small... I figured out why it's so large in the other image. It's because a ceratin project got a good image of the area. It's called "Astrophoto". It's also why it's a gray box.

DSS2 Image

Astrophoto
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Re: New Galaxies
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2010, 09:45:39 AM »
I also searched it up in the NED, which even has Sloan (SDSS) and, which I don't think simbad has, I tested it on SDSS J151135.38+251347.1, and nothing came up, yet NED did... Eithere way, I don't think they are catalogued. SDSS is new so it may get to them in a few years.