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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2013, 10:47:43 PM »

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2013, 10:48:29 PM »
why can i not see most of those when I can on wikipedia and in chat

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2013, 10:55:24 PM »
Okay, if everyone would please post IPA on USForum with
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[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] around it, that would be great, because it enables almost all IPA symbols to be displayed.

current sounds: m̥ m n̪ n̥ ɳ̊ ɲ̊ ɲ ŋ p b t̪ d̪ ʈ ɖ c k g ɢ ʔ β x j ɹ ɰ r l ʎ ʟ ɮ kx ɡɣ | current foreign sounds: s z w

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Re: usf phonology
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2013, 10:59:44 PM »
If you want ideas:

salykkolšil

CONSONANTS

p /p/      bilabial
f /f/      labiodental
v /v/
t //   .   dental
d //
n /n/      alveolar
s /s/
z /z/
Å¡ /ɬ/
ŋ /ŋ/ (ng) velar
k /k/
g /g/
h /x/
gh/ɣ/
ɰ /ɰ/ (yw)
kh/χ/      uvular
/ʔ/        glottal

VOWELS

  frnt - ctrl - back
c  i   -- ɨ   -- ɯ u
nc - - ɪ  - -    - -
cm     --     -- ɤ  
m      -- ə   --    
om ɛ   -- ɜ   -- ʌ  
no æ   --     --    
o  a   --     --   ɒ

"ORTHOGRAPHICAL CLASSIFICATION" OF VOWELS


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 (kx)   --   (kxk)
   normal  reduced  EoW
a | [a]      [æ]
e | [ɛ]      [ɛ]
i | [ɪ]      [ɪ]     [i]
o | [ɤ]      [ɒ]
u | [u]      [ʌ]
w | [ə]      [ɯ]
y | [ɜ]      [ɨ]

EoW - end of word
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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2013, 11:48:03 PM »

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2013, 09:02:27 AM »

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2013, 01:14:52 PM »
w is very restrict

<Kalassak> a lot of the things under onset could not possibly be an onset
<Kalassak> particularly starting with r
<Kalassak> rz? rm? rt? how do you start a syllable like that
you can end one like that, but start... think of syllable: "rzat" it's more like "r" + "zat"

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2013, 01:31:02 PM »
Modern Ižkiwa
Consonants
k /k/
r /ɹ/
j /ʃ/
ǰ /ʒ/
z /s/
ž /z/
n /n/
w /v/
Vowels
a /a/
e /e/
o /o/
i /i/

Early Ižkiwa (Isciva)
Consonants
c /tʃ/
l /l/
sh /ʃ/
zh /ʒ/
s /s/
n /n/
v /v/
Vowels
a /a/
e /e/
o /o/
i /i/

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2013, 08:08:11 PM »
NOTE: INSTALL CODE2000 FONT TO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL SAGUAN CHARACTERS
current sounds: m̥ m n̪ n̥ ɳ̊ ɲ̊ ɲ ŋ p b t̪ d̪ ʈ ɖ c k g ɢ ʔ β x j ɹ ɰ r l ʎ ʟ ɮ kx ɡɣ | current foreign sounds: s z w

okej i have started on orthography for saguan,

m̥ = mh
m = m
n̪ = ḿ
n̥ = ḿh
ɳ̊ = ńh
ɲ̊ = ñh
ɲ = ñ
ŋ = ŋ
p = p
b = b

kx = kx
ɡɣ = gx

current sounds: m̥ m n̪ n̥ ɳ̊ ɲ̊ ɲ ŋ p b t̪ d̪ ʈ ɖ c k g ɢ ʔ β x j ɹ ɰ r l ʎ ʟ ɮ kx ɡɣ | current foreign sounds: s z w


   1st person   2nd person   3rd person
Singular         
Plural         

current sounds: m̥ m n̪ n̥ ɳ̊ ɲ̊ ɲ ŋ p b t̪ d̪ ʈ ɖ c k g ɢ ʔ β x j ɹ ɰ r l ʎ ʟ ɮ kx ɡɣ | current foreign sounds: s z w

okej i have started on orthography for saguan,

m̥ = mh
m = m
n̪ = ḿ
n̥ = ḿh
ɳ̊ = ńh
ɲ̊ = ñh
ɲ = ñ
ŋ = ŋ
p = p
b = b
t̪ = ť
d̪ = đ
ʈ = t
ɖ = d
c = c
k = k
g = kh
ɢ = g
ʔ = ‘
β = v
x = h
j = y
ɹ = ŕ
ɰ = ɰ
r = r
l = l
ʎ = lj
ʟ = ł
ɮ = z
kx = kx
ɡɣ = gx

foreign sounds:
s = ś
z = ź
w = ɰ́́
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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2013, 09:48:33 PM »
Darvincian
confirmed consonants:
ɹ, k, kʰ g, ɾ/r

r is [ɾ/r]
rr is [ɹ]
g is [g, gʰ]
c is [k, kʰ]
ré is [əɹ]
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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2013, 10:13:31 PM »
i don't want to affect your making of your language but i'd like to note how illogical that is what even

that is very english of you

boo darvincian sucks himalian is beste

just kidding do whatever you want

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2013, 10:23:27 PM »
fine i'll pile on the palatals and approximants

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2013, 06:24:45 AM »
just kidding do whatever you want

when i said this i meant it like seriously (as if that's not most of what i say or something?) all i was complaining about was your stupid re meaning a vowel before the r which is dumb and illogical I don't mean make a language no one can pronounce

I'm going to complain about pretty much anyone's language unless it is 99% mine so don't worry about it

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2013, 09:07:35 AM »
"I'm going to complain about pretty much anyone's language unless it is 99% mine so don't worry about it"
Don't, because that can become annoying. Just, give suggestions at most.

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2013, 12:20:03 PM »
I don't want everyone's language to be the same, variety is cool.

Don't take it seriously, like I said. It's joking around and it's not harmful or non-obvious like "go away".

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2013, 08:40:43 AM »

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2013, 11:28:04 AM »
IPA please
especially for the vowels

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2013, 11:08:13 PM »
this topic stronk

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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2013, 11:12:58 PM »
modifying saguan phonology to be simpler before i have a massive amount of words

m̥ = mh
m = m
n̪ = ḿ
n̥ = ḿh
ɲ̊ = ñh
ɲ = ñ
ŋ = ŋ
p = p
b = b
t̪ = ť
d̪ = đ
t = t
d = d
k = k
g = g
q = q
ɢ = gg
ʔ = ‘
β = v
s = ś
z = ź
x = h
ɹ = ŕ
j = j
ɰ = ɰ
r = r
l = l
ʎ = lj
ʟ = ł
ɬ = s
ɮ = z
kx = kx
ɡɣ = gx

sounds 99% of saguans can say but aren't used in saguan words:
w = ɰ́́
ɣ = hh

vowels:
a = a
i = i
o = o
oi = ó
ai = á
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Re: usf phonology/orthography
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2013, 11:41:26 PM »
http://darvince.wikia.com/wiki/Saguan_language holyshit I didn't realize how many consonants saguan had until now

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Re: usf phonology/orthography/calligraphy/neography/meteorology
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2013, 07:54:59 AM »

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Re: usf phonology/orthography/calligraphy/neography/meteorology
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2013, 08:59:35 PM »
why is meteorology involved what the hellnuedarkon

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Re: usf phonology/orthography/calligraphy/neography/meteorology
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2013, 09:02:57 PM »
morphology of ponlang:

tenses: -,',+

verb/noun/adj: /,:,>

for example:

moved = move-
will move = move+
jump (action) = /jump
jumped (action) = /jump-
poop (noun) = :poop

is this even morphology



i hope.

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Re: usf phonology/orthography/calligraphy/neography/meteorology
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2013, 09:58:25 PM »
uhh unless your language is supposed to be only written and never spoken then yes

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Re: usf phonology/orthography/calligraphy/neography/meteorology
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2013, 10:07:57 PM »
tone high/low/medium and tone concave/convex/flat should do it.

by concave and convex i mean:

if you plot tone with pitch on one axis and time on the other, you'd get a graph which can be
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concave_function
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convex_function

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Re: usf phonology/orthography/calligraphy/neography/meteorology
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2013, 01:53:59 PM »
French orthography is worse than English holy shit

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Re: usf phonology/orthography/calligraphy/neography/meteorology
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2013, 04:25:43 PM »
Eksa keyboard

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b61o3e8qzduw4us/eksa.zip
Code: [Select]
0123456789?ǩǧ
!énŋÅ¡ywuúp []\
aeitvfgklhr
áídszɰoó,|

ǩ and ǧ are obsolete characters
shift + áéíóú to get dotted characters
shift + yw to get dotted characters
shift + 67 to get ýẃ


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Re: usf phonology/orthography/calligraphy/neography/meteorology
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2017, 01:53:03 AM »
what about usf phenomenology

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Re: usf phonology/orthography/calligraphy/neography/meteorology
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2017, 02:09:47 AM »
what about usf graphemics

never forget soleani used to be called polykolian -> salykkolšil -> eksa