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Not/Actually pony Related craft
Just like. Go here: 174.17.20.53:25565
You probably need IC2 installed so download it here (http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php).
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Not AppplicableCraft? lol
Anyways I've set up a farm, which kind of got sabotaged by a creeper, but it's not a total loss.
Could you look into some sort of anti-creeper plugin thing?
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Maybe.
Sparkle Industries is open for the good of society! And stuff.
I recommend if anyone who is playing on this server is playing for the IC2 stuff, follow the First Steps tutorial and make that stuff and put it at your own place because it'll give you some practice with making some basic stuff. :P
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The first steps tutorial for vanilla MC on the wiki or the first steps tutorial for IC? I know it's probably obvious, but I'm just asking
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ok installed. it took me a while, but ehh, worth it if nue's server gets off the ground.
magic launcher is buggy, i had to install it manually and on a completely clean jar
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This should be called...
NotApplicaBlacraft
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nuecraft is legitest name. i demand it.
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Or Atomicraft.
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nnoooooo nuecraft.
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I simply named it atomics server.
Anyways, seriously, did atomic mean the first steps tutorial thats on the MC wiki or a different one? I'm just asking.
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Also, the server is down this morning, can't connect.
Maybe I can practice in survival SP (on peaceful mode).
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sap trees are like impossible to find anywhere except swamps where they make up like 90% of all trees >.<
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Do you mean rubber trees? Atomic and Naru managed to find some somewhere despite the fact that we started in the middle of an arctic zone (ice, snow, more snow, few trees if any).
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It took me 1.5 mins to find the download button, and when i found it, it turned out to be the donate button. >;. It took an additional .5 mins to find the real download button. I hope this is worth the time.
Edit: nvm, 2 many downloads, and im a total nyb at downloads.
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I simply named it atomics server.
Anyways, seriously, did atomic mean the first steps tutorial thats on the MC wiki or a different one? I'm just asking.
On the IC wiki.
This should be called...
NotApplicaBlacraft
Kol.
I'll put the server up in about 30 mins.
(Ah yes, the archaic method of running it on your own computer... Luckily for you, I have 3 of them.)
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Up.
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it'd be great if someone could have a step by step (1. do xyz 2. do xyz) of how to install the ic wutever,because i fail at installing or dowloding of making things work. (like singe player commands).
also, wood it just work with regular?
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it'd be great if someone could have a step by step (1. do xyz 2. do xyz) of how to install the ic wutever,because i fail at installing or dowloding of making things work.
Navigate to %appdata%
Unzip and throw the contents of this (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28221422/MinecraftForge/forge-3.3.7.135/minecraftforge-client-3.3.7.135.zip) in the minecraft.jar in /.minecraft/bin/ using 7-zip or winrar and make sure to delete META-INF
Then throw this (http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/Downloadfiles/IndustrialCraft%C2%B2/industrialcraft-2-client_1.95b.jar) in /.minecraft/mods/
Done.
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kolok sikkels
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it'd be great if someone could have a step by step (1. do xyz 2. do xyz) of how to install the ic wutever,because i fail at installing or dowloding of making things work.
Navigate to %appdata%
Unzip and throw the contents of this (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28221422/MinecraftForge/forge-3.3.7.135/minecraftforge-client-3.3.7.135.zip) in the minecraft.jar in /.minecraft/bin/ using 7-zip or winrar and make sure to delete META-INF
Then throw this (http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/Downloadfiles/IndustrialCraft%C2%B2/industrialcraft-2-client_1.95b.jar) in /.minecraft/mods/
Done.
and u had to teel me after i finally managed it. -_- whatever
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welp
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holy, this thing is complicated, how am i suppose to memorize all the recipies? i guess ill just tap rubber trees. also, are there such things as rubber-tree saplings?
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atomic, do you know where to get that thing (Blacraft front page) so we can see if its on or off and if and how many people are on.
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It's called sign up with a server host, and pay monies for them to host it. and then the basic information banner becomes available.
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oic
then i guess u shud bump this thred when it goes on and when it goes off
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i have a laser......kolkolkolkolkol
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isgut
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yes it can vaporise stuff and dig quarries in about 20 seconds flat.
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tunnel drilled under mountain.
took about 20 seconds with shiny mining laser <3
(and about 8 batboxes worth on energy, mind you!)
also now i have several inventories of junk material
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I maded a geothermal generator. So yes. Keep all your lava buckets people.
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somone make a shitton of coal dust please if they can
edit: just 32
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nue wut time are you on est?
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Been playing Pocket Planes on iPad and I'm falling behind here, lol. Not sure if I should keep practicing on SP with the starting steps or go ahead in the MP server.
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play mp server with a ic wiki tab open.
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Trampolines are bugged btw guys, they just poof when you touch them with anything other than your hands.
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graph of resources on the server for today (and regarding ores, for every day). THE BOTTOM AXIS IS TIME (in EDT)
We have a mining machine now. my solar charger thingy is open to everyone, but try to leave at least 300k eu in both mfe's combined. Also have about 2 million reserve eu but tell me if you need it so i can make the necessary adjustments.
next we should splunk more, make an array of mining machines, and then make a nuclear powerplant. this is the plan.
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My plan:
Lava. And geothermal generators. Yes... Lava and geothermal generators.
^^^ Bla this is your power plant.
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i made 8 geothermals :P
anyway lava is limited, so the plan should be more like:
mining machines + splunk + geothermal = energy + more mining machines
more mining machines + energy = uranium
nuclear powerplant + uran from mining machines = huge amount of limitless energy.
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I wonder if glowstone and solar panels would work... Nop
Btw, there's a very big ravine inside an epicave at (349 , 36 , 232). It's not explored and goes down to lava layer. It's very close to another big ravine I explored yesterday.
Holykol, the nueks are kipzane, it's blamazing.
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windmills must be built at block 149 with a 9x9x7 with onyl 2 wires, and only 5 windmills per storage thingy. actuall, i think ill do the building. it will be above a tall mountaion so dont blow up any more kip. Also, I will need a spare MFE
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... Where did you do the nuke? Unless that's some screenshot from elsewhere.
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It's from SP. :P And it's many nukes.
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Ok good.
No nukes within like, 500 m of buildings plz. Also before you do that you should check to make sure nothing important is there. For example I have a mine up north quite a distance (I never measured it).
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So we have some economic problems. Here's my suggestion on how to solve them:
1: Expand public storage. I'll do this soon, I'll make a seperate floor for the vast amount of dirt and cobble and try to organize the chests better.
2: Make a collective storage. I can do this, too. Maybe the top floor of the public storage. Instead of making private chests, we could make it a bit hard to get in there and with plenty of visible signs, so people would be sure that they're actually taking something which is important to all of us (I think this was a part of the problem earlier, people didn't know what each other needed and thought that there was enough of everything, so they just took stuff for themselves. How 5+ diamonds could just disappear, don't ask me about that, though).
The collective storage works, besides from the process of accessing it, exactly like on Blacraft, to hold the rare items we can't just use mindlessly.
3: Make an approval system or a way of keeping track of the collective storage. If one or a few people manages the chests, people could place signs on the floor below with their requests, and people could place signs at those signs telling whether they'd be ok with it or against it. Sort of like a primitive system of Spawntown Voting Center and faster.
Otherwise, make a system where you write down on a sign if you take anything, with an UTC-timestamp of when you took it. Remove signs which are 3+ days old or something. If someone takes things and we vote that the person was unfair in taking it afterwards, the person could be told to gather those resources for the storage again.
We could see if people will respect this collective storage or if we need to use more strict methods, if people ignore it and treat it like their personal pool of stuff.
4: This is just an idea, not sure if we should implement. But if we need to place responsibility on people, we could give different main tasks to different people. Like one person having the main task of ensuring that there's enough food, another having the main task to ensure we don't run out of wood, etc. We could have multiple main tasks each, and if we get a surplus of some things while we need other things or a person becomes inactive for some time, we ofc simply change what tasks people have. Not as a way to blame a few people for our problems, but to encourage those to go out and gather whatever we need instead of just standing in collective chaos where none of us do everything and everyone keep yelling for whether they can take the stuff they need or not.
It could also be made so that people could have a list of priorities like maybe 1: Food, 2: Wood, 3: Ores etc.
So what are people think?
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We could experiment with number 4?
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I like number 4. This could work.
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Should we do the automatic farm in a cell by cell style (Forssa) or in a slope style (Border Hill)?
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I'd say slope, unless it's going to be gigantic.
Primary tasks:
Smjjames - food.
Bla - wood.
Atomic - rubber.
Rest - ores.
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no there must be 25 bread per second
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kiptech in operation with 2 extractors, 5 electric furnaces, 3 compressors, 4 macerators. (which means more convenience to convert sap, hopefully).
Even with all machines using full power constantly, as long as you sleep, the entire lab will run for 2 and a half hours on stored energy (this is with all machines constantly running), and the nuclear powerplant can recharge all 1.2 million eu in about 25 minutes.
Walls have been made to prevent most mobs from entering.
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I cleaned up and extended the public storage. There's now cobble, gravel and dirt on the second floor.
Most items should be possible to put into broadly classified chests on the first floor, except snow, flint and probably a few other things which can just stay in the dumping chests for now.
I harvested 128 wood for today so maybe don't use it too much for building and stuff requiring a lot of wood if you don't want to risk running out while I'm blasleep.
Tomorrow I will hopefully hunt more diamonds and improve Leninkat Power Plant capacity and output.
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Bla, the reason why I had the cobblestone between platforms is so that if you're walking on the platforms and you jump down, you don't un-plow the soil.
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stuck in lava when building my house.
holding my laser
wearing my nano armour.
;-(
i lost 5 (2.5 hearts) damage
meh, trying to convince kipz to block up the lava
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I started working on the new rubber tree farm, cause kip needed to expand his lab and I was going to move it because it was starting to get surrounded and I was planning on expanding it. So I'll finish that tomorrow.
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this is my lab. the mfsu will supply power 12 machines running constantly for over 5 hours even if somehow, the geothermal, nuclear, and solar power supply are all turned off. oh yeah, no-one go in the lab holding a wrench because if you accidentally touch those transformers there's a good chance there'll be a hole where you used to be. When completely drained, as it is now, the mfsu will take 140 minutes to charge, gaining 1200 energy per second (or, if 5 geothermals are running, it'll take 57 minutes and over 1000 buckets of lava). A single run of the double-rod reactor will fill the mfsu with 8 million eu.
So i effectively now have 667 batboxes.
The third pic is of my nuclear reactor setup. the water buckets are not necessary, but just incase my test in csp and calculations were both incorret, which they don't seem to be. the two cells touching doubles the efficiency and is the best completely stable reactor possible at this time.
Also, i would like to warn everyone not to have more than 5 geothermal generators active when the solar panels are on and 6 geothermal when the solar panels are off. exceding this amount will cause melting wires and possibly explosions.
To quote bla, 'Byetown' b/c kiptech
update: mfs at 3m/10m eu
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Bla, the reason why I had the cobblestone between platforms is so that if you're walking on the platforms and you jump down, you don't un-plow the soil.
There's no need to step down from the cobble. You can reach at least 4 tiles inwards from it, and since there's 6m of crops between the cobble, you can just walk on the cobble and plant 3m on each side. So there's no reason to jump down.
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i find it more convenient to just get on the soil and run across the rows planting. with the planting from the sides it is much slower. Also, the first row of soil from each platform, it useless, any crops where will not drop anything because water is falling on top of them instead of on their side. thats why there is the cobble in forssa.
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also server name sucks. i have better ideas.
In order of how much i liek
-nuecraft
-N/Acraft (not available craft :P)
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I'm thinking about building a mass fabricator. It'll be able convert energy to diamond at the rate of 1.5 million eu/diamond. since 1 uranium is worth about 4 million energy, i think it is worth it. Oh yes.
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i find it more convenient to just get on the soil and run across the rows planting. with the planting from the sides it is much slower. Also, the first row of soil from each platform, it useless, any crops where will not drop anything because water is falling on top of them instead of on their side. thats why there is the cobble in forssa.
This. Besides, the farm is expandable in either direction if we need to expand it.
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Hey guys, now that I have the lab finished as a structure, I'm ready to put stuff in it, but I need a power source. I asked kipz yesterday about connecting to his reactor as a power source and he said okay, although Bla recommended that I talk to Atomic and Kipz about connecting to a power source or before constructing a nuke plant.
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How 'far' is everyone else in terms of technology?
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i am at 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 BC
i do not exist
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How 'far' is everyone else in terms of technology?
Mixture of modern and beginning industrial era maybe? I don't have the lab set up yet.
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Well I mean as in what, from the mod, has been built, I'm really behind, I haven't built any industrial yet.
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Well I mean as in what, from the mod, has been built, I'm really behind, I haven't built any industrial yet.
All but the more advanced stuff has been made, if that's what you're asking.
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I've set up a primitive (by blacraftian standards anyway) mine. Technically its my personal mine, but I guess it could be used by everybody and we are going to have to do mining the old fashioned way until we get enough resources for a mining array.
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Hey guys, while looking up something I saw in creative mode, I found this: http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=Crops (http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=Crops) and http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=Crop-Matron (http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=Crop-Matron)
This is advanced stuff, so we could try it out when we have the resources.
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Bla you can do a connecty magic now. I have an MFE. Also I blew up all my macerators and furnaces. I made a new macerator and two furnaces and an LV transformer. It's all fixed now.
Simple sentences much.
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Bla you can do a connecty magic now. I have an MFE. Also I blew up all my macerators and furnaces. I made a new macerator and two furnaces and an LV transformer. It's all fixed now.
Simple sentences much.
And I need a new connection line. Tried to use a batbox as a transformer, blowing up the transformer and the tin line.
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How 'far' is everyone else in terms of technology?
Mixture of modern and beginning industrial era maybe? I don't have the lab set up yet.
yeah, i've been mining many raw materials to produce more advanced stuff. i'm up to mass fabricator and working towards a high powered nuclear reactor to start massively mining automatically within the next few days/weeks.
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also server went down?
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How 'far' is everyone else in terms of technology?
Mixture of modern and beginning industrial era maybe? I don't have the lab set up yet.
yeah, i've been mining many raw materials to produce more advanced stuff. i'm up to mass fabricator and working towards a high powered nuclear reactor to start massively mining automatically within the next few days/weeks.
The strip mine I've set up will help with resource gathering, just needs a mining laser to be made available to make mining in there faster.
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do mining lasers mine at the speed of light
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i'm making quantum armor. i'll wear it, but anyone can use it for a good reason. It took me a good 6 hours to make just boots. (i'll need ~100k cobble, 60 million eu, 10 diamonds, and some other redstone/lapis). I figure by the time i'm finished with this armor, which is like 9 block jump heigh, unlimited underwater time, fireproof, poison proof, like 20m/s sprint, and near invincibility, it'll be like creative mode without spawning inventory. I shall waltz into the end and hold the enderdragon captive. ohyes. After this i'll promise to just mass fabricate ores :P
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I would certainly like to use the waterbreathing helmet, that way, I can make water tower 'batteries' that go deep into the ground and use watermills that way. Will have to test in SP creative first though.
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water towers are best at 5 blocks because tin wire.
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5 blocks high or 5 block separation?
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the column should be 5 blocks high
the layout should be watermills in a 3x3 square excluding corners and center. center should be tin wire
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What about stacked columns?
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stacked? like on top of each other? I need pics to understand this
i would put them side by side, in a river. no need to go deeper and add complications. also this makes energy loss lower.
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We don't exactly have a river handy, so I could make a watermill farm with 5 deep (or 6 deep, to account for ice) wells that would house watermills. Just have to hook them up to a voltage amplifier to the main part of the grid.
Of course though, if we were by an ocean, we could very well make a massive watermill farm or maybe it would be better called a tidal farm.
Edit: Or better yet, an array of them in a large tank. Perhaps something like this prototype, except imagine it in an array of many in a much, much larger pool. Maybe I'll put them under the hill behind my lab to avoid the issue of ice forming.
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i'm making quantum armor. i'll wear it, but anyone can use it for a good reason. It took me a good 6 hours to make just boots. (i'll need ~100k cobble, 60 million eu, 10 diamonds, and some other redstone/lapis). I figure by the time i'm finished with this armor, which is like 9 block jump heigh, unlimited underwater time, fireproof, poison proof, like 20m/s sprint, and near invincibility, it'll be like creative mode without spawning inventory. I shall waltz into the end and hold the enderdragon captive. ohyes. After this i'll promise to just mass fabricate ores :P
except flying is only 10m/s.
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Your point being?
Anyways, I found the device that can be used to measure electric current: http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=EC-Meter (http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=EC-Meter) However, the only problem is that it is bugged right now, also it requires glowstone dust. Just tried it in creative mode and I have no idea if it's supposed to give negative measurements. Doesn't seem to be working the way it should be.
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i'm going to make 12 windmills with 12 rubber, 6 copper, 24 redstone, 48 tin, 96 cobblestone, and 144 iron, if everyone if fine with that. kiptech is short on power.
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i'm going to make 12 windmills with 12 rubber, 6 copper, 24 redstone, 48 tin, 96 cobblestone, and 144 iron, if everyone if fine with that. kiptech is short on power.
Seems ok.
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i'm going to make 12 windmills with 12 rubber, 6 copper, 24 redstone, 48 tin, 96 cobblestone, and 144 iron, if everyone if fine with that. kiptech is short on power.
Seems ok.
Actually, kip, u already have a reactor and I dont have anything, so i dont think its ok.
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yes but when i use mass fab, i drain more energy than i make so i need to make more energy. you not having anything doesn't have anything to do with windmills?
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exactly, u already have 10 mill eu and u want more. no evrry body has 10 mill eu.
also,, i tink erryoen shud have a mfes
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10m eu bcause reactor makes 8m, but the amount of storage and rate =/= same. i have enough storage, just not enough eu/t
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everything is public. although, i swear, if we made it all private for a few days, ore production would double.
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Why don't you work hard for the resources yourself bong?
U shan't be talking fiah, u took 300 iron without asking
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10m eu bcause reactor makes 8m, but the amount of storage and rate =/= same. i have enough storage, just not enough eu/t
Uh uh, explain that more
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I have 10m eu storage b/c reactor makes 8m per cycle. Also I need more eu/t, not eu storage capacity
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hey, u already have a lot kip, and i have 0 eu/t.
@fiah, i know, we had like
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atomic can u set up poll
1. kip gets 12 windmills
2. kip and bong gets 12 windmills
3. bong gets 12 windmills
4. no one gets windmills
also, i think erryone shud have at least an mfe if they want one.
mfe's are like the basic energy storage. atomic, u no talk about batbox
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atomic can u set up poll
1. kip gets 12 windmills
2. kip and bong gets 12 windmills
3. bong gets 12 windmills
4. no one gets windmills
also, i think erryone shud have at least an mfe if they want one.
mfe's are like the basic energy storage. atomic, u no talk about batbox
No, batboxes are the basic energy storage, and they're cheaper to produce than MFES. Going to work on that water mill farm prototype.
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hey, u already have a lot kip, and i have 0 eu/t.
@fiah, i know, we had like
because you don't run a lab. i run the only lab in nuecraft, currently, and twice as big as atomic's before it blew up (in energy consumption). Also, just because you haven't built any energy generating stuff doesn't mean i shouldn't make any.
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but i need them more than u, because i will set up a lab.
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who says you setting up a lab is more important than me setting up a lab
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because, u already have a lab. i dont even have anything that enerates >0 eu, and u have a mfsu that holds 10 mill
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me having an mfsu has nothing to do with anything because msfu does not generate energy.
so is it more important to get 12 windmills here that will power 31 machines for the public to run, or 12 windmills for you that will power your not-yet-existant lab.
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1. ur saying that u have run out of energy?
2. my lab will exsist shortly.
3. ok, which is better, a nucleare reactor, a whole lot of geothermals, and a lot of solar panels vs 12 windmills.?
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because, u already have a lab. i dont even have anything that enerates >0 eu, and u have a mfsu that holds 10 mill
At least he LETS people use the lab. Take Kipz's advice and go make a generation device, I'm going to be working on a prototype.
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1. yes, many times
2. the point i'm trying to make, is that 12 windmills for me will enable everyone to operate 31 public machines, but it'll take 12 windmills and 31 or however many machines in your lab before people can run it.
3. which is better, a pony, a bla, or a poo.
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1. ur saying that u have run out of energy?
2. my lab will exsist shortly.
3. ok, which is better, a nucleare reactor, a whole lot of geothermals, and a lot of solar panels vs 12 windmills.?
My lab will also be existing shortly, so your point is moot.
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thats what im doing,smjjames, but i need windmills to generate some eu
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ok smjjames, so u can have 12 windmills if u argue correctly.
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well, it doesn't become moot just because someone else also is in the same situation, i'm trying to say, that 12 windmills for my lab will payoff more than 12 windmill in anyone's soon-to-exist lab.
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bottum line,
if i can have 12 windmills or more when i finish my lab, im okay with whateever
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i mean house, not lab
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bottom line,
that is still not a reason for disagreeing with me having windmills...it's completely irrelevant
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exactly, that is the bottom line. not an arguement line
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we're debating about why you disagreed with me making windmills, so a bottom line is part of that debate.
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ok, modified bottom line
kip has enough eu generators and bong has none, so once bong finishes his lab, he will get 12 windmills
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kip has enough eu generators
did i not just spend the last 2 pages of this thread saying how i don't have enough eu generators and that is why i need 12 windmills....
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ok, kip has more eu generators than bong, who has 0
also, did ur msfu ever run out of energy once u charged it?
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i have not enough energy generators and my msfu has been empty for the past 10 hours.
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Bong, you can get power from Leninkat Power Plant, it has 30 solar panels and an MFE. I can set up some tin wires if you have a batbox, and I'll continue to work on expanding the capacity.
With that said, Kipz's lab is public, so the windmills he gets will benefit everyone. I think we all regularly use his lab for macerating, smelting or whatever, at least I do when Atomic's is out of power.
I think it's fair Kiptech gets 12 windmills without the rest of us demanding 12 windmills for all the other labs being set up. In the future I don't expect Kipz to demand 30 solar panels if I plan to set up 30 more solar panels either, that's not how need works.
Hopefully I'll be able to overcome my Civ bladdiction and help you with getting resources to set up your own lab later. It's not that I don't think you should set up a lab.
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I demand 12 windmills when my lab is done.
So, how come I have to get my power forom Leninkat Plant? Its yours right? Why did you make it? To get power. Why didn;t u just get power from kip'z lab???
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because leninkat was to power nuelab i think, nue refused my nuclear power and i had shitloads going to waste so i built my own lab. leninkat is a powerplant, not a lab. (last time i looked)
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/me is waiting for Bla's awenser
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i just answered your questions.
because leninkat was to power nuelab i think, nue refused my nuclear power and i had shitloads going to waste so i built my own lab. leninkat is a powerplant, not a lab. (last time i looked)
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its a question to Bla
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yes, but i happen to know the correct answers too.
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because leninkat was to power nuelab i think, nue refused my nuclear power and i had shitloads going to waste so i built my own lab. leninkat is a powerplant, not a lab. (last time i looked)
He also tried to connect to my lab with a tin cable, however, I attempted to use a batbox like a transformer, or maybe it was the gold cable I used.
The thing is that everybody is having issues with power supply right now.
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yes, but i happen to know the correct answers too.
how do i know he agrees with you? its his arguement
if person a had a test and u told him the awensers, he might not believe u
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Cooperate instead of rivalling, that's stupid and will only make things worse.
If you want 12 windmills now, you're free to mine the materials to make them yourself. Idk how many materials there are in the public storage since I left, but making 12 windmills requires what I attached below.
I can't really say I approve of anything before I know how much we have. But the classical thing we did in the beginning was to run around and ask if we had this and that and if we could take this and that for our own projects and nobody was really gathering anything. That's a very irresponsible mentality and I don't think that's acceptable. So I'll consider things when the server is up based on what we have.
I could imagine us being very low on redstone, maybe iron too depending on how much we had before Fiah took 300. Maybe cobble if Kipz has turned it all into scrabs. :P
Leninkat is public and is meant to provide power for everyone who needs it. I haven't made anything using power yet, but later I will probably make Dash Electronics or Slash Electronics or something.
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24 redstone can be mined within 10 minutes.
iron is the only problem, but not to big, i hope
also cobble is no issue, i can easily gather several thousand in a single day :P
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To change the subject a bit, any ideas on how to make this prototype more efficient? The first one has less energy storage but it charges up fast, the second one has LOTS of energy storage (It's pretty much a giant battery in that configuration), but takes a while to charge up each batbox.
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Derp, forgot to add more watermills, still, its the setup I'm asking about.
Also, Kipz said last night that the optimal depth for a 'water tower' would be 5 blocks, so would that mean each column of watermills has two or three sets? I know it's an obvious question, but just checking what you mean. I could add a third set to take advantage of the surface waters.
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iron is biggest problem
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well you have 4 watermills and a tin wire. you can just make stack those 4 watermills a few times, they should lose only around 10% of their power generation from this and it can be made with less wire and more compactly
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well you have 4 watermills and a tin wire. you can just make stack those 4 watermills a few times, they should lose only around 10% of their power generation from this and it can be made with less wire and more compactly
Do you mean something like this?
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yes.
two points:
the bottom one should not be touching ground/below the water , but hover 1 block off
maybe if there is space, seperate them with 1 block in between to get more energy at the cost of space.
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yes.
two points:
the bottom one should not be touching ground/below the water , but hover 1 block off
maybe if there is space, seperate them with 1 block in between to get more energy at the cost of space.
I know there needs to be one block off the ground, it was just an example to see if I got what you meant, and one block in between columns, right? Just making sure I understand, and I'm already making the columns one space apart
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i spy a blown up npc village
Yea, I was messing around with a nuclear reactor. The explosion has a hell of a kickback.
Kipz, for best efficiency, should they be in stacks of 3 or 4? With the current depth, I was able to squeeze in another set of 4 watermills to each column.
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everything is public. although, i swear, if we made it all private for a few days, ore production would double.
There's one problem with this. When we turn it back public people will keep some (if not most) of their stuff.
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well people can easily just hide their items even now.
not saying we should be private anyway.
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If everything becomes private I think it will become more boring to play SMP. You might as well play SP. The community part of SMP will be weaker and people might spend less of their time on the server. Ultimately that will make people mine and build less.
From my experience yesterday, I don't think the economy works badly. We do mine a lot of stuff, but we also use up some things quickly, like redstone. But we've also built a lot of things so far so it's not like it's all going to waste or nobody is mining anything.
And please stop screaming "omfsm communism doesn't work" as soon as we run out of whatevers, this is a game, a fantasy world and a small community and has little to do with reality. Even though I know it's easy to say that when people seem to repeat that mindlessly and endlessly.
If our duty assignment system doesn't work alone, I think we should look into a collective storage system like on Blacraft. Keep a reserve of rare stuff public and make the rest hard to access/etc. so we can agree on how it's spent before 300 iron suddenly disappears and we can't even make good tools for mining more. I can make a floor for it in the public storage, and if people steal or ignore the warning signs/don't discuss before taking/etc. we can look into more ristrictive methods.
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It was also kind of problematic at first because everybody was competing for limited resources, but once people set up their own labs, etc, things should settle down.
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Can someone check for sure which of the generator (http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=Generator) recipies is more efficient resource wise. I tried using the second one in an attempt to conserve some resources. I used the iron furnace recipie that uses the stone furnace.
Edit: Watermill farm complete.
Edit2: Going to remove that random batbox in the corner of Sparke Industries which isn't connected to anything, and placed it somewhere that it would be useful.
Edit3: Anybody know where the pump went? I'm thinking of doing some mining with the miner and use the pump as well, though probably not today.
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omfsm, everyone eat bla
also, use the second one because less smelting.
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people take stuff out of the machines in kiptech when they're done or else i dump them into a random chest in the room :P
(at least it's better than nue burning them)
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holyshit the thread like, doubled
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mostly in the morning, eeyup
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ok, fixed mfe which someone wrenched by accident and cut off the power supply. working on wind (have everything built, but yet to install), which i will do tommorow and add an estimated 30 eu/t approximately
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installed solar panels.
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I red up on wiring, and replaced cobber with tin from solar panels to MFE in Leninkat.
It outputs 128 EU/t, so there should be a transformer, which should be easy enough to make, and cobber cables from it. Or gold cables with 128 EU/t.
I guess 32EU/t to Smjlab and Bonglab and possibly 128 EU/t to the sparkly industrially buildingish thing, depending on what Atomiwants and otherpeoplwant.
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send energy out of the transformer with gold wires all the way until the labs before you transform it to low voltage.
less energy loss
as for dividing energy, just split the cable into 3 and wire one to each lab and energy will be split according to use.
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FOR transport to bong and smjjames lab, which might be up to a good 60 blocks away, you should either:
use MV transformer to get it up to 512v and then use HV cable to transport (10% loss)(hv cables are pretty cheap btw)
or transform it to LV and use copper wire +batboxes (the batboxses reset the energy loss so there will be none)(takes more resources)
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Seeing as there's only five iron ingots left in the public storage, and Fiah took 300, maybe we could have some of it back?
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Seeing as there's only five iron ingots left in the public storage, and Fiah took 300, maybe we could have some of it back?
If he hasn't used it all up or something.
I've mined some iron with the miner, so I can give that. Also, is it me or is there a loss of mining pipes every time you use the miner? It could be that a creeper annaihlated some last night when one blew up the pump.
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Seeing as there's only five iron ingots left in the public storage, and Fiah took 300, maybe we could have some of it back?
I think I used most of it months ago
In Blacraft or Nuecraft? We're talking about Nuecraft here, plus the server has only been up for a week or so.
FOR transport to bong and smjjames lab, which might be up to a good 60 blocks away, you should either:
use MV transformer to get it up to 512v and then use HV cable to transport (10% loss)(hv cables are pretty cheap btw)
or transform it to LV and use copper wire +batboxes (the batboxses reset the energy loss so there will be none)(takes more resources)
The watermill farm I've set up will help supplement the power supply. It's not up to full potential right now as I just have the mills at the bottom of each column.
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Then how does this accusation happen? Either Bong is lying, or you're lying or there is some huge mixup here. False accusations are not good for the community, so lets figure out what the hell is really going on.
Too bad Atomic doesn't have those server admin essential plugins.
Why don't you work hard for the resources yourself bong?
U shan't be talking fiah, u took 300 iron without asking
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bong was saying about the iron from blacraft I took a few months ago
It sounded like Bong meant Nuecraft, but I'll take your word for it and it's just a misunderstanding.
In any case, I'll give the iron that I got from the miner.
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also, tell me if you can edit this (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-DNoUU2xHSU88fCjbHzvswhkJgFBu-TXclB-xd0RMIU/edit) and tell me if you think its a good idea and if you read the examples and understud them.
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use e.g. not i.e.
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why? also, u can change it
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wat, since kip wants a spread sheet. do this.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al01v6m8nddRdE91VTRMUjBwSENvTXpKVDJhOFQ5THc
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pony is pony i'm building a pony with uran bloks
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I'm not sure if a spreadsheet is best. Maybe a normal texty doc would be fine. There's a list, you write what you need, what for, who you are, when you requested it and preferably how many of the resources are currently available as well. Then other people write below your request whether they think it's ok or not and why. If nobody is against it after 24 hours, you can take it, if some people are against it after 24h, we have to vote and a majority must be for the request.
Requests are seperated by horizontal rulers or something like that.
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ehh, that is too slow a process. since there are pretty much 6 people who play actively, i'd say a vote of 4 for the project is enough?
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kip, bla, bong, atomic, smjjames, ventus.
well, i guess.
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We could have both. Either 3 other people must approve the project within 24 hours, or nobody must be against it after 24 hours.
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no there shud be seven
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We could have both. Either 3 other people must approve the project within 24 hours, or nobody must be against it after 24 hours.
Good idea. If I change it, will you accept?
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Yes.
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naru stop planting trees to block my solar panels and if it happens again i will be making a high voltage fence and tesla coils all around my lab.
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A threat from kipz? Stop the fucking presses
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naru stop planting trees to block my solar panels and if it happens again i will be making a high voltage fence and tesla coils all around my lab.
I did replant the microforest just outside Rocktown, but I don't think any of them grew big enough to cover your solar panels. Actually, they're nowhere near your solar panels anyway, at least the ones I know about.
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atomic please spend some time how to disable sleep on your comp so server up nearly 24/7
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atomic, i hope its ok if i borrow 8 of your bukkits. (only for a few minutes)
Edit:We could have both. Either 3 other people must approve the project within 24 hours, or nobody must be against it after 24 hours.
Good idea. If I change it, will you accept?
Kip and Bla I changed it.
Edit 2: atomic please spend some time how to disable sleep on your comp so server up nearly 24/7
Yes that would be great.
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atomic, i hope its ok if i borrow 8 of your bukkits. (only for a few minutes)
Edit:We could have both. Either 3 other people must approve the project within 24 hours, or nobody must be against it after 24 hours.
Good idea. If I change it, will you accept?
Kip and Bla I changed it.
Edit 2: atomic please spend some time how to disable sleep on your comp so server up nearly 24/7
Yes that would be great.
Or just extend the time before sleep mode turns on by a few hours. Still though, he did tell me that he is going on vacation this weekend, how long though he didn't say.
Also, as far as the miner goes, if anybody wants it, it's in the 'generator room' through the back of the lab. I read up a little on it and apparently you're supposed to use the scanner to find spots that have a high ore density. I did some scanning around rock town and there aren't many high density spots. There is one about 30 ore density in the old electronics room and there is a 50+ spot in the square pit that is bongs house in progress. I guess bong can claim that one if he wants to as its technically on his property.
BTW, we need a new pump to go with the miner, I have the machine block from the one that got exploded, so if someone makes it before I do, I can give that person the machine block.
It would also be nice if we could upgrade the ore density scanner into an ore value scanner, however, the schematic for it is a bit on the expensive side and it's even more of a power hog.
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generator room? which lab?
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wat, in the pit?? or around it? where is the scanner, and how do you use it, and is it color coded or what?
i mined the whole thing out
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My lab, obviously, and there is a passageway into the hillside that is visible when you walk through the door of the lab.
It's more like a generator chamber since there is room for more expansions in the future. There is also a cave entrance in there. I did partially block the entrance down so that mobs would stop wandering up the cave and annoying me, although that was after the creeper exploded the pump.
wat, in the pit?? or around it? where is the scanner, and how do you use it, and is it color coded or what?
i mined the whole thing out
Unless I left the scanner in my inventory, it should be in the miner. The spot is in the pit, I doubt you dug all the way to bedrock. It's not color coded and goes by numbe values. The way it works is that it scans in a square of 5 blocks from the block you're standing on (or maybe the block you select? I'm not completely clear on this) and spits out a number value. For more details, you should read the wiki page.
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ok. so did you see 5?
just clarifing, it was below my house, riight?
(better safe than sorry)
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Well yes, it's on the bottom floor of the pit that you claimed as your house. I was just looking in various areas in and near town and looked down there out of curiosity.
It doesn't show 5 blocks of anything, you'll get a clearer explanation in the wiki page and it'll probably help if I showed you what I mean ingame. Of course though, I don't remember ATM if I left it in the miner or it is in the inventory.
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5=diamond
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its up
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Basically, what I'm trying to say is that in order to get a good return on ore, you should prospect with the scanner and find as high an ore density as you can. I found a spot with 50+density close to where I initially started doing the mining in the chamber and got LOTS of coal. Just what is down there is kind of a crapshoot so to speak and the upgraded version of the scanner actually tells you whats under your feet. Which is why I think it would be worth it to upgrade that scanner.
5=diamond
That's not how it works, go read the IC wiki page for the OD scanner.
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ic how it works i got a 59 hopefully diamond
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You're free to use the batbox in the generator room of my lab to recharge the batteries if needed.
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Atomic the server needs to update to IC2 v1.97
I tried to connect but I got an error saying that I needed v1.95.
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There are several bug fixes for the sound issues with SMP, the lag and other issues related to sound should e gone now.
So, yes atomic, could you please update it ASAP? It will help with the lag issues and sound getting stuck in the client.
Edit: Looks like he did update, so, get the update everybody. Also, Bong, I hope you don't mind the 2x2 escape stairway that I made to get out of that lava area. I don't know whether that cobblestone blocking the top of the elevator was intentional or not, but I had to remove it to get out, I'll replace it though.
Edit2: Bong, can we have the OD scanner back?
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welp making ov scanner
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Bla or atomic you HAVE to make a personal safe for diamonds, iron, and whatever you think is worth a lot. yesterday, we had 3 diamonds, today, and then 1 now. I already have one, but i dont think you would trust me.
also, lab done. take a look, im the tallest and largest and deepest building the not applicational craft.
also atomic, can u make you screen saver or sleep time for your computer never? it gets really anyoying when im in the middle of something and it crashes.
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nue is too lazy, don't expect anything.
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does anyone still play this server a lot?
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no, just us two. also, everyone ransack and burn the public storage. i'll go assemble some nukes to destroy rockland with.
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wtf
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no, just us two. also, everyone ransack and burn the public storage. i'll go assemble some nukes to destroy rockland with.
And me.
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oh
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I'd play I'm just a little busy with Civ 5 atm. I've had a 9 hour multiplayer game with Yqt and Smj today. :P
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lol, ok, we won't nuke it.
i must warn you, despite my best efforts, the public storage is a bit....
/me runs off to kiptech
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Seems like most everybody else got bored with Nueserver and Blacraft.
Anyways, I've set up an electric treetap station and Kipz, I'd like the electric wrench back please?
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Nobodys really been playing Blacraft recently because we have been playing Nuecraft, but heh.
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i've been using electric wrench for teleporters, put it back in small chest in my lab.
also, i'm going to fix that gold wire with hv cable because it dosn't look like bla is going to do it
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so liek.
finished armor, finished teleporter, now on to making tesla coils
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[04:47.49] <Numunesse> die in a hole
[04:47.49] <+FiahOwl> yeah
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sowwie dar
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What happened??
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asdf
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Nuecraft is now run by me for now, connect to 5.15.145.22 for hamachi and 5.15.145.22:25565 for minecraft and tell me if it works.
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What happened??
Well, when the server was saved, Kipz said that the previous three minutes or so wouldn't be saved, so, we decided to blow up the reactor and have some fun. :)
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OK to connect to server
first install newest version of forge http://www.mediafire.com/?3xadmcxl9o6hmla (http://www.mediafire.com/?3xadmcxl9o6hmla)
and then download hamachi, join existing network,
network id: Nuecraft
networks pass: leave blank
then connect to 5.15.145.22:25565 for minecraft
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y need hamachi?
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I don't know why we need Hamachi, but as Fiah said, make sure you secure your computer so that nobody can look at your files.
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for some reason, i failed to conect to the hamachi servers
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the safety thing sounds confuzing
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for some reason, i failed to conect to the hamachi servers
They're off right now while Kipz fixes some issues.
the safety thing sounds confuzing
Following the instructions shouldn't be too hard. You need to get it to connect to a server first before it'll show up in the networks panel.
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we use hamachi because i can't port forward
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its up
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There is a lot of lag right now, everything is lagging except maybe the sound and player movements.
Edit: The lag let up a little, but it's still annoying and now the server status is sometimes going 'can't reach server' or 'communication error'. I'm actually in Blacraft to study the automated farm setups and I saw the temporary Nueserver doing that.
Edit: How come some of the Forssa chests are locked? Personal food supply?
Edit3: Also, it looks like I don't actually need Hamachi to be on to connect to the server.
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kol thats strange, screw hamachi then, no idea what i'm talking about
forssa chests are collective storage now.
also, i can try port fowarding later, maybe it'll have less lag.
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server down
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wt
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,server up
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In case you didn't know kip is hosting the server now.
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yes, i made a post about it. doesn't really matter as only me, bong, and smjjames play :P
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i found a cave and mined a shitload of ore, this picture doesn't include coal and redstone, lapis because it woudln't fit in my inventory :P
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Have you been hiding secrets Bong? lol. (I only came in to take a look at the MFSU, which is full anyway, to try and figure out why theres no power flow to my MFE in the quarry).
Edit: Oop, forgot one section on that cable line, heh, my bad. ><
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what is kIP (kinternet kiprotocol)
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wut hiding scrects wut
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wut hiding scrects wut
I was joking around with you. :D Just some humor since copper and tin somehow dissapeared in the eastern part of Rocktown.
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y u have 14 or more diamonds in ur inventroy?
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Who's inventory, mine? I don't have that many atm.
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ur holding a laser, 2 diamond drills, a diamond sword, and nano aromur
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I was wearing, not holding the nano armor and the sword I've since ditched for a nano-sabre.
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pictures:
1. splunking trip
2. resin tree lol
3. ore density
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1.fail
2.meh-fail
3.ok-meh-fine
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What are you doing mining without a diamond drill? heh.
Anyways, the tree with the two sap holes next to each other is one that I replanted since the one that was there didn't seem to be producing sap holes. I guess they need at least one leaf block intact?
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Anybody have any idea why there would be a severe lack of aggro mobs in Nuecraft server? I've noticed that today and Kipz has seen that as well.
Yes I know it's bongs dream to spelunk without aggro mobs, but still.
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196, -170
go there.
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nuecraft energy grid. just to clarify, about the geothermal plant, where it says 100|8, that means the plant has an operational capacity of 100 eu/t for a total of 8 million eu until fuel runs out. for nuclear powerplant where it says 140|233 and 70|233, that means we have fuel storages for 233 million eu in uranium.
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MUDKIPZ WHAT IS THE IP FOR NUESEVERE
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OK to connect to server
first install newest version of forge http://www.mediafire.com/?3xadmcxl9o6hmla (http://www.mediafire.com/?3xadmcxl9o6hmla)
and then download hamachi, join existing network,
network id: Nuecraft
networks pass: leave blank
then connect to 5.15.145.22:25565 for minecraft
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recent glowstone trip. just pillared up to the roof and dug a tunnel from above until glowstone. from there, i made a platform from the lowest block i could find and just made paths to other veins. got down by jetpack because lava ocean. If you have jetpack, it's easy to fly up to ghasts and whack them with nanosaber
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Found an impressive cavern with lots of lava in it around -241, 164
Also, heres the haul in ore from the abandoned mine and subsequent cave system spelunking trip. The scrap is from stuff that I recycled obviously.
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ok, heres how we'll do the enchanting:
because ic2 items are so much more powerful, and you get to select which enchantment, we'll be using this chart:
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/d/df/Enchanting_levels.png (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/d/df/Enchanting_levels.png)
pick whichever enchantment you want, then multiply the lowest level you can get that enchantment at by 2, and that is the level you need to get that enchantment for whatever tool. if you want multiple enchantments, just add the levels. then, just tell me, and i will add the enchantments onto your item and subtract the exp. (you will need to have the item the first slot of you inventory).
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kolok
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kolok
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wt
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i killed the enderdragon if you can't tell :P
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bump (server isn't up now, but i'll turn it on if anyone wants).
i worked out a breeder reactor so that one uranium can yield an average of 32 million eu/t (compared to only 4.7m before).
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holypooo
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finished construction, now have about 1.2 geu in uranium stockpiles :P (but can only process at 30 eu/t maximum)
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uhh