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Title: Learning about spaceflight
Post by: william212 on June 16, 2016, 12:52:38 PM
My son and I have learning from US2 every night for the last few weeks.  Its been loads of fun and lead to a lot of discussion on the space physics, mass, gravity, etc...

I would love to be able to explore and learn how different parameters affect spaceflight.

We've tried "launching" objects from planets but have found it difficult to fine-control objects or replicate experiments with different parameters.

Would love to be able to do the following:
 

A bonus would be requiring hydrogen (or other) and then decreasing the amount of available hydrogen in proportion to the thrust produced.  The need for a complex maneuver would then require additional hydrogen, increase mass and requiring more lift to orbit.  This would then lead to learning about gravitational assisted maneuvers to compensate for lack of fuel / increase velocity, as well as other avenues.

You would want to be able to save all these vectors in order to run the simulation over time or using different parameters.
Title: Re: Learning about spaceflight
Post by: DoctorWh0? on June 17, 2016, 07:40:59 AM
For this, it would be better to check out Kerbal Space Program.
Title: Re: Learning about spaceflight
Post by: william212 on June 17, 2016, 07:50:37 AM
Thanks! I'll check it out.

Title: Re: Learning about spaceflight
Post by: william212 on June 20, 2016, 07:38:51 AM
Enjoying Kerbal

Kerbal is about is about creating rockets and fulfilling missions - it has an economy-based structure which allows you to play it as a game (research upgrades, funding management, etc...) or the sandbox model (which I haven't explored yet).

I do think it would be great if US2 (maybe as an expansion pack) would allow for the bullet points above without incorporating the economic aspects of Kerbal.
Title: Re: Learning about spaceflight
Post by: DoctorWh0? on June 23, 2016, 07:01:00 AM
I know. I just think that it would be hard to fit it in without making it a bazzilion dollars. :P
Title: Re: Learning about spaceflight
Post by: quantumMechanic on June 23, 2016, 07:49:47 AM
If you've ever heard of Space Engine, it's a free game that also has a spaceflight feature. While it's not the game's main purpose, it is implemented pretty well. It has most of the features you're looking for, as well as a lot more that don't have to do with spaceflight. It's definitely an awesome game.

If you do get it, I'd recommend getting the 0.9.7.4 beta. Even though it's a beta and it has some bugs, it's a much improved version from the current 0.9.7.3 release, especially when it comes to the spaceflight feature. It's somewhere on the dev forums, but if you just google "space engine 0.9.7.4" it should be the first result.
Title: Re: Learning about spaceflight
Post by: Physics_Hacker on June 23, 2016, 02:30:55 PM
If you've ever heard of Space Engine, it's a free game that also has a spaceflight feature. While it's not the game's main purpose, it is implemented pretty well. It has most of the features you're looking for, as well as a lot more that don't have to do with spaceflight. It's definitely an awesome game.

If you do get it, I'd recommend getting the 0.9.7.4 beta. Even though it's a beta and it has some bugs, it's a much improved version from the current 0.9.7.3 release, especially when it comes to the spaceflight feature. It's somewhere on the dev forums, but if you just google "space engine 0.9.7.4" it should be the first result.

About space engine, theres a release candidate out that I can link if you want. 
Title: Re: Learning about spaceflight
Post by: william212 on June 27, 2016, 11:24:23 AM
Would appreciate the link.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Learning about spaceflight
Post by: Physics_Hacker on June 29, 2016, 10:43:28 AM
Would appreciate the link.

Thanks!

Here's the one for RC3:
http://en.spaceengine.org/forum/21-3022-66419-16-1466354362