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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #240 on: November 05, 2014, 10:21:16 PM »
gsrm?

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #241 on: November 05, 2014, 10:22:21 PM »
gsm was nice but more recently there was something different and more straightforward

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #242 on: November 05, 2014, 11:07:16 PM »
I just don't understand why having a preference is now considered having your own sexuality.  Just because I'm attracted to someone who has one leg doesn't make me amputee-sexual or whatever the fuck you want to call it. 99% of people fall in to the straight gay bi trans scale, so why do we need to include a hundred other sexualities that are incredibly similar but subtly different.


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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #243 on: November 05, 2014, 11:08:27 PM »
you mean the hetero-homo-asexual triangle
and the female-male-agender triangle
which sometimes conflicts too much with the female/male sexual duality

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #244 on: November 05, 2014, 11:10:03 PM »
Sure?

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #245 on: November 05, 2014, 11:12:23 PM »
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11194.0;attach=25561;image this is roughly how i imagine it for sexuality, it's the same for gender (but red/cyan instead) and then sex is two discrete points that match up with gender at the top two points of the triangle

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #246 on: November 05, 2014, 11:14:40 PM »
Yeah, exactly. Just because someone is "only attracted to people they like (wat) doesn't mea  they get their own sexuality and get to call oppreshun when people refuse to recognize their ridiculousness

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #247 on: November 05, 2014, 11:19:06 PM »
you have to draw the line somewhere, about how many people are needed to form a sexuality. i think it's elegant to have that line at zero

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #248 on: November 06, 2014, 07:18:52 AM »
It looks like if you by sexuality mean sexual orientation, that's divided into homo-, bi-, heterosexuality and sometimes asexuality.
"These categories are aspects of the more nuanced nature of sexual identity."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientation
So pansexual, polysexual, ... fall under identity instead of orientation.

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #249 on: November 06, 2014, 09:16:55 AM »
why is it homosexual/heterosexual instead of androphilic/gynophilic when it is man/woman for gender instead of cis/trans

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #250 on: November 06, 2014, 09:36:57 AM »
because one is naturally accepted and expected the other isn't

alternative to one that blurs the lines between morality and immorality

at least thats how it would be percieved

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #251 on: November 06, 2014, 10:21:08 AM »
wait how would androphilia or gynophilia blur the line between supposed "immoral" concepts and "moral" concepts

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #252 on: November 06, 2014, 10:26:56 AM »
because it is usually thought in terms of 'man and woman' therefore what is 'right' is more easily expressed by 'the other' and 'the same', so that the opposite is wrong, weird, or at the very least different and seperate

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #253 on: November 10, 2014, 10:08:16 AM »

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #254 on: November 10, 2014, 10:08:54 AM »
That's a pretty odd comparison imo...

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #255 on: November 10, 2014, 10:09:19 AM »
That's a pretty odd comparison imo...

Also why is that overlaid on a picture of heavy

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #256 on: November 10, 2014, 10:38:56 AM »
That's a pretty odd comparison imo...

Gays can't get married for a stupid reason
Obese can't have pie for a stupid reason

That's a pretty odd comparison imo...

Also why is that overlaid on a picture of heavy

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #257 on: November 10, 2014, 10:44:11 AM »
Gays can't get married for a stupid reason
Obese can't have pie for a stupid reason
There's nothing linking the two reasons, so one may find one of the reasons good and the other bad. You can't assume everybody else finds the same things stupid as you so it would make more sense to use two statements that at least had some logical connection beyond your subjective opinion.

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #258 on: November 10, 2014, 10:53:56 AM »
ok then


ah forget it I suck at metaphors
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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #259 on: November 10, 2014, 12:42:49 PM »
what the heck marriage doesn't mean anything in a lot of places but in the places where it does mean something, i do approve of bringing equality where marriage actually means something

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #260 on: November 11, 2014, 04:48:50 AM »
just wondering why is trans mixed with lesbian gay and bisexual?

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #261 on: November 11, 2014, 05:44:38 AM »
idk, as far as I know I don't think any religion has anything to say about transgenders.

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #262 on: November 11, 2014, 08:58:48 AM »
yes they do, and just like "deviant" sexualities, they say it is wrong and make horrible arguments like "god made you as a boy so you must always be a man/boy"

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #263 on: November 11, 2014, 09:12:03 AM »
Well I heard that the idea behind anti-gay in Islam is sanitary concerns and nothing to with sexuality, but I'm pretty sure that's because medics sucked when religions were made.

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #264 on: November 11, 2014, 09:52:51 AM »
I kind of doubt that. Most religions arguments against Gay relations is more along the lines of "It's icky so no"

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #265 on: November 11, 2014, 09:57:25 AM »
This actually makes me wonder if at one point, homosexual attraction wasn't completely discouraged, just gay intercourse was for genuine hygiene/medical concern.

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #266 on: November 11, 2014, 10:04:20 AM »
Sanitary concerns are important for some kinds of sex if people involved have STDs, especially back when protection didn't exist.
There's no single way gays have sex though, and being gay can also mean romantic attraction. Targeting gays in general isn't rational (not that many religions target gays for romantic attraction as far as I've read, even though many religious followers today are fond of doing that).

In the modern world all evidence shows that where religions try shade over the lives of gays with their dark ideas (as well as heterosexuals when trying to convince people prevention is evil, such as the Catholic church's campaigns in Africa - a deep disgrace to humanity), disease rates only go up as people get marginalized and refused information about how they can actually have safe sex. Or simply told blatant lies in the case of the church's campaigns trying to convince people condoms don't protect against AIDS.

Though the fact that there are modern inventions and advancements of course isn't going to convince anyone that believes milennium-old books are infallible, just like we see on every other science or social issue where some people are still stuck in the tribal stage.

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #267 on: November 11, 2014, 01:47:06 PM »
LOL. This is the same as the abortion argument.  People rationalizing why there must be "safe" abortions and never wanting to deal with the root of the problem.  They don't want to deal with the root of the problem because they would rather continue to do the behavior that causes the issues and look for solutions that allow that to continue at all cost.  When others point out this fact, using millennium-old books and reason, they then become "the problem", standing in the way of people too dumb and selfish to realize what they do to themselves and society as a whole.  The people that NEED to worry about safe sex are the stupid ones.

Keep giving condoms to people like this...and you may end up taking a long nap in a "latrine".
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/09/19/at-least-8-ebola-aid-workers-reportedly-killed-in-cold-blood-by-villagers-in/

But hey, doesn't America have it's own problems?  Yes, let's continue to deal with the symptoms and not the problem itself.
http://nypost.com/2014/11/10/subway-brawl-breaks-out-after-man-slaps-woman/

The "modern" world is "Progressing" along ain't it, lol.

Of course, this differing opinion that happens to be true, will be deleted.
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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #268 on: November 11, 2014, 02:06:49 PM »
Of course, this differing opinion that happens to be true, will be deleted.

opinion that happens to be true

what

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Re: LGBT Topic
« Reply #269 on: November 11, 2014, 03:52:53 PM »
Language doesn't work, maybe I will try pictures for now on.  Take a guess as to why they are looking at you.