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smjjames
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Re: Tournament (Active USForums members)
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2012, 03:25:58 PM »
You couldn't nuke a tropical cyclone and do anything but make it more hazardous.

I still voted mudkipz though.

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« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2012, 03:26:55 PM »
You couldn't nuke a tropical cyclone and do anything but make it more hazardous.

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« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2012, 03:27:42 PM »
"You couldn't nuke a tropical cyclone and do anything but make it more hazardous."

pffft the nuke could theoretically blow apart the storm. if it was powerful enough, the shockwave would blast the convection currents apart.

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« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2012, 03:27:55 PM »
its time for the tables to turn

an explosion could always blow up a storm. imagine the sun blowing up vs a tiny hurrican

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« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2012, 03:36:36 PM »
an explosion could always blow up a storm. imagine the sun blowing up vs a tiny hurrican

An explosion does not explode wind.

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« Reply #65 on: February 01, 2012, 03:38:11 PM »
But, explosions release a wave of pressure, like a mini wind.

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« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2012, 03:38:27 PM »
da heat! The sun will become a red giant and then who knows what will happen

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« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2012, 03:39:03 PM »
an explosion could always blow up a storm. imagine the sun blowing up vs a tiny hurrican

An explosion does not explode wind.

the nuke would superheat and blow apart the convection currents in the hurrican

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« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2012, 03:39:09 PM »
But, explosions release a wave of pressure, like a mini wind.

Which could in theory boost the hurricane.

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« Reply #69 on: February 01, 2012, 03:39:24 PM »
so could a butterfly

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« Reply #70 on: February 01, 2012, 03:40:16 PM »
the shockwave would not disrupt the hurricane much. It passes through and leaves. however the convection currents would be blown apart from the wind and heat.

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« Reply #71 on: February 01, 2012, 03:40:19 PM »
A bomb or bombs would be a dead end since the amount of energy a hurricane is releasing and the size of its circulation would make any bomb, including the largest nuclear bomb, seem more futile than trying to stop a charging elephant by throwing a ping-pong ball at it.

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« Reply #72 on: February 01, 2012, 03:40:45 PM »
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And it is a matter of scale. Look at a large hurricane, it is hundreds of miles across. Now look at our largest hydrogen bombs, they vaporize things for a mile or two around.

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« Reply #73 on: February 01, 2012, 03:41:27 PM »
Can a hurricane be in plasma and survive? No.

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« Reply #74 on: February 01, 2012, 03:41:39 PM »
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The ocean serge is created by the extrem low presure at the core of the storm. The violent wind speed is driven by this also.Look at the science. Fast air, lower presure. A wing.
Detonating a very large nuc bomb would not change that at all. It might even make it stronger. A dramatic change in air presure would help stop the storm. How do we do that then? What do we have that could increas air presure enough to stop a hurican. ?


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« Reply #75 on: February 01, 2012, 03:41:51 PM »
not necessarily. a pin a kill an elephant.

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« Reply #76 on: February 01, 2012, 03:42:18 PM »
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The energy released by a hurricane is on the order of megatons per second. A nuke would have less effect on a hurricane than a single stick of dynamite on a tornado.

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« Reply #77 on: February 01, 2012, 03:43:01 PM »
pffft no, a hurricane would stop when the convection currents are disrupted. By heating the cold air and dispersing moisture, that would stop the hurricane

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« Reply #78 on: February 01, 2012, 03:43:48 PM »
and since when did we get fixated on the idea of a single, tiny nuke, blowing apart a hurricane

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« Reply #79 on: February 01, 2012, 03:44:07 PM »
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And it is a matter of scale. Look at a large hurricane, it is hundreds of miles across. Now look at our largest hydrogen bombs, they vaporize things for a mile or two around.

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« Reply #80 on: February 01, 2012, 03:44:45 PM »
and since when did we get fixated on the idea of a single, tiny nuke, blowing apart a hurricane
pffft no, a hurricane would stop when the convection currents are disrupted. By heating the cold air and dispersing moisture, that would stop the hurricane

since you like quoting yourself...

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« Reply #81 on: February 01, 2012, 03:44:59 PM »
Yeah, thats why more hurricanes form in the summer than the winter. The need hot air and cold air.

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« Reply #82 on: February 01, 2012, 03:45:15 PM »
you make as much sense as suggesting that a smaller poisonous insect cannot kill a bigger one.

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« Reply #83 on: February 01, 2012, 03:45:51 PM »
and since when did we get fixated on the idea of a single, tiny nuke, blowing apart a hurricane
pffft no, a hurricane would stop when the convection currents are disrupted. By heating the cold air and dispersing moisture, that would stop the hurricane

since you like quoting yourself...

And since when did you want to radiate the entire northern hemisphere, and waste hundreds of nuclear weapons.

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« Reply #84 on: February 01, 2012, 03:46:07 PM »
1992

waste? you're not wasting anything if you save lives.

and who said we needed to use bombs with radioactive fallout
 

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« Reply #85 on: February 01, 2012, 03:46:13 PM »
you make as much sense as suggesting that a smaller poisonous insect cannot kill a bigger one.

Different Analogy.

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« Reply #86 on: February 01, 2012, 03:47:07 PM »
And keep in mind the concept of conservation of angular momentum. Even if you could disrupt the eye briefly, all that angular momentum is still in the air somewhere, and it will return to re-form the eye in a matter of minutes or less.

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« Reply #87 on: February 01, 2012, 03:48:05 PM »
no, if you evaporate the convection columns the whole hurrican falls apart

also you can claim "different analogy" or "different point" etc to practically anything....

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« Reply #88 on: February 01, 2012, 03:48:53 PM »
you make as much sense as suggesting that a smaller poisonous insect cannot kill a bigger one.
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A tropical cyclone can cease to have tropical characteristics in several different ways. One such way is if it moves over land, thus depriving it of the warm water it needs to power itself, quickly losing strength

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclone#Factors_2

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« Reply #89 on: February 01, 2012, 03:49:14 PM »
so if we blow up the earth it'll reform by itself?

according to your conservation of angular momentum.