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Re: Politics
« Reply #90 on: October 26, 2011, 09:26:58 AM »
I've seen you complain about Obama, which is fair, but really, the Republicans are at least 10 times worse.

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Re: Politics
« Reply #91 on: October 26, 2011, 09:45:37 AM »
tf is this ****

Sorry I didn't have anything constructive to say to what he said.
Sorry? Why are you sorry? I don't have anything constructive either, but does anyone have anything constructive to say about that? :P

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Re: Politics
« Reply #92 on: October 26, 2011, 10:26:38 AM »
Sorry? Why are you sorry? I don't have anything constructive either, but does anyone have anything constructive to say about that? :P
Keep your imaginary friend(s) out of politics.

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Re: Politics
« Reply #93 on: October 26, 2011, 10:56:18 AM »
Huh? You make no sense. Forget it, I shall never post here again.

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Re: Politics
« Reply #94 on: October 26, 2011, 11:11:38 AM »
It was constructive critique to Rick Perry.

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Re: Politics
« Reply #95 on: October 26, 2011, 11:14:46 AM »
Oh, I'm sorry about that. :P

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Re: Politics
« Reply #96 on: October 26, 2011, 02:53:39 PM »
It was constructive critique to Rick Perry.
I get it now, you confused me there for a second as well.

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Re: Politics
« Reply #97 on: October 29, 2011, 07:46:21 AM »
LOL you HAVE to see this clip from The Daily Show with Noelle Nikpour, a Republican politician who is against science.
http://www.atheistrev.com/2011/10/idiot-of-week-noelle-nikpour.html

The interviewer is so obviously joking and being sarcastic when interviewing her, but she just agrees with what he says, even though it is ridiculously stupid and hilarious. It is as if she can't even see that the interviewer is joking.

Just one example:

Her: "Scientists are the only people qualified to comment on scientific theories. This is what raises doubt, with not only Republicans, but Americans."
Him: "It's like why are surgeons the only ones allowed to perform surgeries, and other surgeons being the only who get to say whether the surgery is neccesary or not, right?"
Her: "Absolutely."
Him: "It doesn't make any sense."
Her: "It never makes any sense."
Him: "And the only people who can check if they're not manipulating..."
Her: "...Are other scientists!"
Him: "...They're very smart, these scientists."
Her: "That's what I'm saying."

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Re: Politics
« Reply #98 on: October 29, 2011, 12:19:27 PM »
It is as if she can't even see that the interviewer is joking.
And that proves her closed-mindedness. I think she is hearing what she wants to hear so the tone no longer matters to her, she instantly goes "nope not being sarcastic, what are you talking about brain?"

Although this is hilarious to outside viewers, I think they should have done something more... interrogative?

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Re: Politics
« Reply #99 on: October 30, 2011, 12:06:08 PM »
Kol Notch.

MinichanIRC: @notch you're why socialism fails

Notch: @MinichanIRC that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard! The reason I don't need to work is CAPITALISM, not socialism. ;)

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Re: Politics
« Reply #100 on: October 30, 2011, 01:17:19 PM »

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Re: Politics
« Reply #101 on: November 10, 2011, 11:19:42 AM »
KOL, finally Rick Perry shows bla tantly how mindless, dumb and ignorant he is so even the most stupid people can see it.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #102 on: November 10, 2011, 03:16:09 PM »
Wow... Epic fail.

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Re: Politics
« Reply #103 on: November 10, 2011, 03:29:08 PM »
Yea, first thing out of his mouth, the section of goverment I want to eliminate is education, then tries to correct to commerce I guess and blah blah blah. It was on a debate thing that I didn't watch, so I don't know the full context of it.

I tend pretty much democrat and generally vote democrat, but I'm registered as independent.

As for Herman Cain, the accusation by the first one to go public got a O.o reaction from me, literally. I didn't get what the others accusations of the others were.

Anyways, even though Obama has a hard time holding onto his cabinet members/secretaries, I still see him as better than the other choices. Anybody know which president had the highest cabinet turnover rate? His is the highest that I know of, in recent history....

TBH though, it would be nice if we had a democratic alternative candidate
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Re: Politics
« Reply #104 on: November 10, 2011, 04:11:14 PM »
Yeah, but if I was old enough to vote, I would probably go Obama.

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Re: Politics
« Reply #105 on: November 11, 2011, 04:33:05 AM »

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Re: Politics
« Reply #106 on: December 05, 2011, 11:21:30 AM »
Report from OECD: Inequality is growing. :(

http://www.oecd.org/document/40/0,3746,en_21571361_44315115_49166760_1_1_1_1,00.html
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/40/12/49170449.pdf

Numbers in the coefficient on the graph:
1 = one person earns everything
0 = everyone earns the same.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #107 on: December 05, 2011, 11:38:37 AM »
Strange, inequality went down in Greece (only European country on there to do so), yet they're the ones having economic problems.

To be fair though, just about all of Europe is having problems. The problems can probably be traced back to WWII, maybe as far back as WWI.

As far as the US goes, yea, war on the middle class, which might actually be worldwide and not just the US.

Anyways, what does anybody think of the current republican contenders so far (I tend to vote democrat and my views tend towards them, just saying)?

Romney: Dunno, major flip flopper though and not sure economically and stuff.

Perry: No, too close to a Bush clone, and not just because he is also from Texas.

Santorum: Don't know much about him.

Huntsman: Not sure really.

Bachmann: She definetly has the spirit, but flubs up WAY too much.

Gingrich: Double edged sword here really, has experience, but is a major washington insider.

Paul: If he were democrat, I might consider voting for him. I agree that we do need to focus more domestically, but I really don't like his isolationist stance. We tried isolationism before and it didn't work and in todays world, the last thing we need to do is retract into a turtle shell. While he is from Texas, being from Texas does not make one a Bush clone.

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Re: Politics
« Reply #108 on: December 05, 2011, 11:53:10 AM »
Strange, inequality went down in Greece (only European country on there to do so), yet they're the ones having economic problems.
Before people get quick to blame their economic problems on that, notice that ALL countries with more equality than Greece, are doing better than Greece economically (I'm not sure about the Czech Republic, but the rest are).
The problems in Greece have a lot to do with the Euro. The countries which have adopted the Euro are very different economies, and I don't think they were ready to use the same currency. I think it will force them to make their retirement ages, job market politics and so on very similar or the same. And I bet the liberals will get their way when it is the European Union dictating the politics of its member states. I also think that a big problem in Greece is that the authorities are very bad at controlling whether people pay taxes or not, but I'm not sure about that.
It is Southern Europe which is in trouble, and which is dragging the rest of Europe with it, mostly because of the Euro.

To be fair though, just about all of Europe is having problems. The problems can probably be traced back to WWII, maybe as far back as WWI.
I doubt it. But if that's the case for Western Europe, just think what must apply to Eastern Europe after the world wars.

Anyways, what does anybody think of the current republican contenders so far (I tend to vote democrat and my views tend towards them, just saying)?
This says everything.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #109 on: December 05, 2011, 11:58:50 AM »

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Re: Politics
« Reply #110 on: December 05, 2011, 12:05:33 PM »
Well yea, the economic problems are much more complex than just the inequality and have to do with the Euro. As far as the problems going back to WWII, I don't mean all of them do and I'm not treating it as 100% fact, it was just a thought.

Plus Greece has all those austerity stuff, which did drag it down.

As far as the republicans living in their own reality, I agree with you there. Just look at Congress, pfft.

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Re: Politics
« Reply #111 on: December 06, 2011, 09:32:15 AM »
Avaaz campaign to save/strengthen the Kyoto Protocol and to ensure we make a new international treaty to reduce greenhouse gas emissions before 2015.

http://www.avaaz.org/en/the_planet_is_dying_c?cl=1433450879&v=11426

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Re: Politics
« Reply #112 on: December 09, 2011, 02:20:17 PM »
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As for democracy, a system without capitalism is the only system which can be truly democratic and independent of economic corruption. You could see companies, some of them have more money than entire states on this planet, as small dictatorships floating around wherever it is easiest for them to exploit. Capitalism is what lets them do this. They could be replaced with democratic workers' councils, or they could be managed by people assigned by an elected government. There are probably other options as well.

Companies hold a huge portion of the economic power on this planet, but for some reason, people in our societies only think of our government budget as something which should be decided democratically (and in this case, representative democracy, where people have significantly less influence than direct democracy).

Oh, and then there are the political campaigns, which, in USA, cost millions of US$. How democratic is it that only the rich get to advertise their politics, and only the ones which want to improve the conditions for the companies and banks get their financial support to run their campaigns?

I think, the biggest reason why we call our societies democratic is because we've heard our parents say it, we've watched them say it in the news, we've read it in the newspapers, we've heard it at school and from everyone around us.
Democracy isn't a yes or no option, but a gradual scale. While most countries are doing worse, our societies certainly aren't doing impressively on that scale. In my opinion, at least.

But no, socialist revolutions so far have not formed democratic governments, as far as I know.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #113 on: December 09, 2011, 02:45:09 PM »
In my history/english class we're going to simulate the roman government. Me and some of my friends are plotting to implement communism. I don't know if we could possibly even do that...

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« Reply #114 on: December 09, 2011, 02:46:17 PM »
Interesting. How are you going to simulate it?

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Re: Politics
« Reply #115 on: December 09, 2011, 03:07:41 PM »
@Bla: It's not neccesarily that the candidates are rich, there is A LOT of fundraising involved.

Of course though, it doesn't help that the damn republicans keep gridlocking congress and the partianship that is going on.

Our government system is broken and we know it :P No idea what it will take to achieve major government reform so that it works properly.

Anybody think the 2012 apocalypse that the Mayans (and other cultures, according to some people) 'predicted' is really going to be an economic apocalypse/economic meltdown? And no I don't believe in all the 2012 apocalypse BS.

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Re: Politics
« Reply #118 on: December 09, 2011, 03:13:53 PM »
Why did you quote that last bit?

Anyways, not all of the general population are idiots, but the non-idiots and those paying attention know that it's broken. Most people already think congress is broken anyway, look at their ratings....

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Re: Politics
« Reply #119 on: December 09, 2011, 03:20:03 PM »
Also, I hate the Electoral College, because you aren't voting directly (a true democracy makes you vote directly) for a president, and the electors can also just vote for what they want, and you can win with only 25% of the votes from people. So abolish it now. :P