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Title: Green Party
Post by: atomic7732 on July 16, 2012, 10:20:23 PM
http://www.jillstein.org/text_psou (http://www.jillstein.org/text_psou)

Maybe then I'd be proud to be an American.

http://gp.org/ (http://gp.org/)
Title: Re: Green Party
Post by: FiahOwl on July 17, 2012, 05:36:55 AM

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Title: Re: Green Party
Post by: Bla on July 17, 2012, 01:01:17 PM
Many elements look very good.

"For this reason, The Green New Deal begins with an Economic Bill of Rights that recognizes our rights to an economy that serves people. This means that everyone willing and able to work has the right to a job at a living wage. All of us have the right to quality education, health care, utilities, and housing. Each of us has the right to unionize, to fair taxation, and to fair trade."

Sounds very good, especially the last part is very questionable though (but much of it seems too vague). What would that imply? And what's fair taxation? From whose point of view? Many rich people (and some people who are simply misguided) could view high tax rates as unfair. I absolutely think a 100% tax rate would be as fair as it gets, and I can also easily imagine this party being pro-progressive and high taxation, but saying fair taxation can basically mean anything.

I'd also go with, anyone able to work, should have the right to a job. While we still need humans to perform work, we can't let work be a choise - if nobody chose to work, society couldn't work. Capitalism's ultimate way of threatening people with death/starvation if they don't work, and at the same time not in any way guaranteeing people jobs (and in practise being highly dependant on the fact that some people don't get a job in order to keep a downwards pressure on the wages of common workers), is in no way optimal. Government welfare in the welfare capitalist states we live in cures the sickness of this to some extent, and of course I also agree that actually ensuring people a job would be a step forward. The myth of those who don't work being just lazy was recently debunked at least in Denmark when thousands of people were found to work happily with little or no economic reward compared to welfare. The biggest problem is indeed providing the jobs, but of course people capable of working cannot be given the option between working or not without consequences as long as our society still depends on human work.

Big rant over a small part of the text. But an interesting party. :)

Another interesting one:

http://www.cpusa.org/ (http://www.cpusa.org/)
Title: Re: Green Party
Post by: Darvince on July 17, 2012, 03:13:19 PM
well you see the rich bitch so goddamn much about tax that they don't even get
Title: Re: Green Party
Post by: atomic7732 on July 17, 2012, 03:24:36 PM
Another interesting one:

http://www.cpusa.org/ (http://www.cpusa.org/)
We need Green Party for a few terms, and then this.

That would be a cute USA.
Title: Re: Green Party
Post by: Darvince on November 05, 2012, 10:23:56 PM
cpusa is a fifth party right now