Universe Sandbox

Universe Sandbox Legacy => Universe Sandbox 2008 | Discussion => Topic started by: SuperNova on May 04, 2009, 06:47:34 AM

Title: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on May 04, 2009, 06:47:34 AM
when will be the next release? and what are the updates? ;D
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: monmarfori on May 04, 2009, 03:21:05 PM
i think is May 6 2009
5/6/2009
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on May 05, 2009, 01:36:34 AM
how you now that date?  ???
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: monmarfori on May 05, 2009, 01:48:45 AM
i dont know. ask dan to see the date what the next update will release
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Dan Dixon on May 05, 2009, 09:08:55 PM
i think is May 6 2009
5/6/2009

Sounds like some wishful thinking. :)

I am working on the update, but I'm not yet ready to announce a date.
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: jhwblender on May 14, 2009, 12:06:16 PM
 ;D That is Totally awsome I can't wait for the next update  ;D
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on May 15, 2009, 03:18:01 AM
wath will be the next updates?
can't wait until the comet future update!
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Chaotic Cow on May 15, 2009, 10:48:58 AM
THe next update will probably be mostly UI update.

Also Dan, is there no way to give an "ESTIMATE"? =]

Like between the months of Blah and jaga? =P
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on May 30, 2009, 03:00:55 AM
i realy can't wait until the new version is released!  ;D

can we have a sneek preview?! please!?
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: monmarfori on May 30, 2009, 03:04:38 AM
This would require .NET 4 to run the next update
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on May 30, 2009, 08:48:57 AM
This would require .NET 4 to run the next update

no, just a screen shot or somthing
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: MonkeyDLuffy on May 31, 2009, 10:07:39 AM
This would require .NET 4 to run the next update
Dan said it the next version does need Net.4 if it has MultiCore Processing
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Dan Dixon on May 31, 2009, 05:50:01 PM
This would require .NET 4 to run the next update
Dan said it the next version does need Net.4 if it has MultiCore Processing

The next release of Universe Sandbox will not need .NET 4 (especially since .NET 4 hasn't been released yet).

The multi-core release won't be until later this year at the earliest. This version will need .NET 4.

Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Dan Dixon on June 03, 2009, 04:03:43 PM
can we have a sneek preview?! please!?

I'll post a "sneek preview" screenshot of the new UI in the next week or so.

I'm really excited about it and I look forward to sharing this with everyone.
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: monmarfori on June 03, 2009, 04:24:05 PM
will some programs and some may be incompatible if i buy a multicore processor
then what happens if i have no multicore processing and i upgrade to .net 4.
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Dan Dixon on June 03, 2009, 05:24:46 PM
will some programs and some may be incompatible if i buy a multicore processor

No.

(I don't know of any examples of normal programs not being able to run on a multi-core processor.)


what happens if i have no multicore processing and i upgrade to .net 4.

Short Answer

You won't be able to tell any difference.


Long Answer

.NET 4 simply allows the developer to add multi-core support.

Here's an example of how it works:

If the program is looping through each planet/body and calculating the forces on each it might look like this:

Code: [Select]
For each Body
  Calculate the forces on the Body
Next Body

If you had 4 bodies (Earth, Moon, Jupiter, Sun) the program would take 4 steps to complete this:

Step 1 - Calculate the forces on Earth
Step 2 - Calculate the forces on Moon
Step 3 - Calculate the forces on Jupiter
Step 4 - Calculate the forces on Sun

The awesome advantage of .NET 4 is that the developer (me) can easily take the 4 steps and spread the tasks across as many processors as you have.


If you have 2 processors it would be able to process 2 steps at once:

Processor 1
Step 1 - Calculate the forces on Earth
Step 2 - Calculate the forces on Jupiter

Processor 2
Step 1 - Calculate the forces on Moon
Step 2 - Calculate the forces on Sun


If you had 4 processors (and 4 tasks) it could calculate all the forces simultaneously.

Processor 1
Step 1 - Calculate the forces on Earth

Processor 2
Step 1 - Calculate the forces on Jupiter

Processor 3
Step 1 - Calculate the forces on Moon

Processor 4
Step 1 - Calculate the forces on Sun


And if you only have a single processor it will just step through each body on the single processor taking 4 steps.
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on June 04, 2009, 07:33:15 AM
can we have a sneek preview?! please!?

I'll post a "sneek preview" screenshot of the new UI in the next week or so.

I'm really excited about it and I look forward to sharing this with everyone.

(http://www.pacprod.com/smiley_signs/create.php?id=laugh%5E_%5Earial%5E_%5E0%5E_%5E0%5E_%5ECant+Wait%21%21%21%5E_%5E.gif) (http://www.pacprod.com)

but my other question is: how do you maked Universe Sandbox?! with a Program?! or C++?!
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on June 07, 2009, 11:29:14 AM
i wanna see the comet update Dan promised me (us) ;D

i realy wanna see that!

and the UI update

and the.....and.....the....and the......
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Chaotic Cow on June 07, 2009, 06:57:02 PM
Is it next week yet? =P
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: basvanorsouw on June 08, 2009, 03:48:12 AM
the game is realy nice ;D
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on June 08, 2009, 06:19:03 AM
the game is realy nice ;D

he's right. but i can't wait until the next update! PLEASE! release it!

Is it next week yet? =P

yes it is  ;D

P.S: Basvanorsouw is my friend
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on June 11, 2009, 08:54:33 AM
can we have a sneek preview?! please!?

I'll post a "sneek preview" screenshot of the new UI in the next week or so.

I'm really excited about it and I look forward to sharing this with everyone.

when will whe get the screenshot(s)?  ???
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Baleur on June 11, 2009, 08:25:36 PM
It is next week now! :D
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on June 12, 2009, 06:16:53 AM
It is next week now! :D

it is  ;D
dan, can you PLEASE make a screenshot or 2?
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Chaotic Cow on June 13, 2009, 10:41:41 AM
*Waits for dan to post* Come on!!!!! xD
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Naru523 on June 13, 2009, 10:33:20 PM
*waits for a year* Zzzzzz..  :P
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Airforce on June 13, 2009, 10:34:51 PM
dies waiting
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on June 14, 2009, 01:03:29 AM
*Waits for dan to post* Come on!!!!! xD
*waiting the whole week*

dies waiting
about your egg : go to your party>your egg> select :vieuw image code> Copy the BB code and put it into your singnature  ;)
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on June 15, 2009, 08:24:25 AM
its the next week  :(
where are the Pics/Screenshots/movies?  :(
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Dan Dixon on June 15, 2009, 04:46:11 PM
but my other question is: how do you maked Universe Sandbox?! with a Program?! or C++?!

Universe Sandbox is written in a managed .NET language (aka C#).
http://www.microsoft.com/exPress/

It uses the Truevision3D engine (a wrapper for Direct X) for graphics.
http://www.truevision3d.com/

And the nUI interface library.
http://www.ionstar.org/index.php?nuioverview



I'll post a screenshot of the new simulation panel later this week.
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on June 20, 2009, 12:55:45 AM
again, almost a week over, and no screenshots  :(
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Maccara on June 20, 2009, 04:42:05 AM
again, almost a week over, and no screenshots  :(
Does Dan owe you something?

(maybe Dan should put a prize tag for each feature and only release versions according to payments :))
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Baleur on June 20, 2009, 06:30:24 AM
again, almost a week over, and no screenshots  :(
Does Dan owe you something?

(maybe Dan should put a prize tag for each feature and only release versions according to payments :))


Whats wrong with being enthusiastic about his app?
And your suggestion is just, blasphemy..
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Maccara on June 20, 2009, 08:55:16 AM
Whats wrong with being enthusiastic about his app?
And your suggestion is just, blasphemy..

Nothing wrong with enthusiasm, but reading this thread reminds me of driving my sisters' kids to see grandma: "Are we there yet? Are we there yet?". ;)

Also the general tone appears demanding, which to me, appears just rude.

Dan has provided an excellent (also addictive ;)) software for us to play with, but I don't see anywhere on his site that he's promised us any new versions for free - only that by buying his software we're encouraging further development. That does not mean he is compelled to provide us any updates for free and certainly not that we have any rights to demand one.

Besides, it has been only, what? ~4 months since last release? Is that version so broken it is not usable?

Look, if you really want an update with some definite features and feel you have the right to demand for it, better prepare to cough up the dough too - no-one has to (or likes to) work for free and many have families to feed too.

For the record, I'm also eager to see what the new version will bring, but I trust Dan will release more info when he's ready to do so and not before, no matter how much we bitch and moan. Although, Dan seems to be the kind of guy who is enthusiastic to show his work to others, so it probably won't be long when we see something new. ;)

Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on June 21, 2009, 11:29:37 AM
again, almost a week over, and no screenshots  :(
Does Dan owe you something?

yes
he promised to put the screenshots here, 2 weeks ago  >:(
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Maccara on June 21, 2009, 07:18:28 PM
yes

Really? How much did you pay?
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: hbmp88 on June 23, 2009, 09:32:08 AM
I'm sure there is a reason why he hasn't posted them. hint hint: maybe they look like crap

Give Dan his time and you'll be more impressed.
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: atomic7732 on June 23, 2009, 10:02:59 AM
I'm sure there is a reason why he hasn't posted them. hint hint: maybe they look like crap

Give Dan his time and you'll be more impressed.
I wish I could give you a thumbs up for that post like for comments on YouTube.
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: hbmp88 on June 25, 2009, 01:29:26 PM
That was in no intention to call Dan's work crap. I'm just saying that everybody needs time to make things well. The more time you apply the better it will be.
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: atomic7732 on June 25, 2009, 03:31:16 PM
That was in no intention to call Dan's work crap. I'm just saying that everybody needs time to make things well. The more time you apply the better it will be.
Again same thing I said above!
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Dan Dixon on June 25, 2009, 04:16:38 PM
Nothing wrong with enthusiasm, but reading this thread reminds me of driving my sisters' kids to see grandma: "Are we there yet? Are we there yet?". ;)

Nods.

he promised to put the screenshots here, 2 weeks ago

Also true.

maybe they look like crap

Definitely true. Most programs do in the early stages. And no offense taken.

(maybe Dan should put a prize tag for each feature and only release versions according to payments :))

Unfortunately money (and thus time) are constraining factors on the speed of updates. If someone has even a few thousands dollars they'd like to invest... The next update will come faster.
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on June 29, 2009, 06:19:14 AM
Unfortunately money (and thus time) are constraining factors on the speed of updates. If someone has even a few thousands dollars they'd like to invest... The next update will come faster.

thousands dollars!?  :o

but dan, can you say when you think it whould be released?

Title: Re: new release?
Post by: atommo999 on July 04, 2009, 10:20:37 AM
the new release is gonna be awesome... and the longer we wait... the better :)
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: FGFG on July 04, 2009, 11:09:03 AM
Yeah, I perfectly agree with you
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: SuperNova on July 04, 2009, 11:37:55 AM
the new release is gonna be awesome... and the longer we wait... the better :)

i now! the last update was awesom!
how longer how better!
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: Naru523 on July 07, 2009, 05:28:35 PM
the new release is gonna be awesome... and the longer we wait... the better :)
Good point...
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: monmarfori on September 06, 2009, 08:57:52 PM
The release would be Sandbox 2.
Title: Re: new release?
Post by: hbmp88 on September 06, 2009, 10:31:13 PM
The release would be Sandbox 2.

We know.  ;)