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General Category => Astronomy & Science => Topic started by: atomic7732 on August 19, 2016, 12:14:36 AM

Title: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on August 19, 2016, 12:14:36 AM: thread for graphics and stuff of interesting WRF runs i do

have some cute convective pops from 10W and some future invest behind it

(http://i.imgur.com/Rv4uCLS.gif)

i really wish i could run a global model at this resolution (15km)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on February 23, 2017, 02:45:38 PM: 00z run from last night (feb 23) of 12F

this, like the above image, is just the inner 15km domain

(https://s27.postimg.org/e3zhq2xkz/output_HYlts8.gif)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 03, 2017, 01:44:38 PM: Enawo (then TDi 06) 03/00z run

20 km res grid

(https://s21.postimg.org/nzwj6gepz/output_en7ei2.gif)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 06, 2017, 12:53:45 AM: a global run test

(https://s13.postimg.org/46bpc8ktz/olr_000002.png)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 06, 2017, 02:02:56 AM: notes to self: module_model_constants.F

change P2SI, reradius

try ocean planet
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 06, 2017, 04:36:07 PM: so here's a global run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h3t7qZYpXk
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 08, 2017, 12:48:45 AM: a new run basically testing if it could form a cyclone in the mozambique channel like GFS did and how evident weak TCs are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUIC89vDpz8

going to restart this run (where it left off) tonight and run it for another week just to see what happens
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 08, 2017, 01:26:31 AM: ayyy i figured out a way to get higher resolution

change the timestep

apparently i had a lot of leeway there so now i'm rerunning the above run at 87 km resolution (instead of 133 km) with 540s timestep (instead of 180s)

it seems to be running a little more than twice as fast, so i might be able to get down to 50 km or so and run a week-long simulation reasonably within 8-10 hours
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 08, 2017, 07:27:14 PM: other than the part where i didn't actually run the model with the correct resolution so i had to re-run it today and the fact that i messed up the output interval, i'd say it was a success

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma7b8wziJq4

there's a grand total of 3 TCs in the southwest indian in 7 days now lmao
"Fernando" at initialization
"Gabekile" in the Mozambique Channel (peaks at 992 at end of run)
"Harold" northeast of Madagascar (peaks at 1003 at end of run)

and the weak TCs (Fernando and Harold) show up very obviously as cyclones, so that's really good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKIGBZALMk8

"Gabekile" landfalls in Mozambique, peaks at 981
"Harold" passes near the Mascarenes and peaks at 984
"Cook" forms in the South Pacific near Vanuatu
a tropical depression exists briefly near French Polynesia
a tropical low seems to be developing at the end of the run near Western Australia
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 11, 2017, 01:24:11 AM: i got a script working that finds the lowest pressure within a region and tracks its movement for a given WRF run
it also finds the highest winds in the search region as well

Harold track from the above run ^

(https://s28.postimg.org/i1yyv6b7x/Screenshot_from_2017_03_11_01_14_56.png)

Cook

(https://s4.postimg.org/69kmh09jx/Screenshot_from_2017_03_11_01_22_40.png)

Gabekile ~~coming soon, the current algorithm doesn't work well near land with high elevation~~
fixed, script now calculates mean sea level pressure :)

(https://s1.postimg.org/yn8yn7ze7/Screenshot_from_2017_03_11_03_18_53.png)

(it dissipated during the run, so that's why there's a tropical depression jumping around, there is no real system, so the script jumps everywhere)

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updated tracks with the first week, so now there's Fernando. Gabekile and Harold's tracks are now complete too, and dar can have a random extratrop for fun
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: Darvince on March 11, 2017, 05:33:44 AM: dot good work friend
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 13, 2017, 05:44:00 PM: (https://s14.postimg.org/d5l2avtyp/Screenshot_from_2017_03_13_17_42_20.png)

http://pastebin.com/ht0i6vim

^ track file is too big for posts now
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 19, 2017, 02:09:20 PM: (https://s29.postimg.org/stpdrjlkn/Screenshot_from_2017_03_19_13_50_20.png)

this week in cyclones (April 20-27)

formed before:
TC Kundai (swio)
STC Kala (aus)
TC Liua (spac)
TC Mona (spac)

formed this week:
STC Cempaka (aus)
STS Merbok (wpac)
TS Lisebo (swio)
STS Michel (swio)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on August 02, 2017, 08:44:09 PM: remember this 463 232 67 km (pavala) 87 km (earth)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: Darvince on August 03, 2017, 12:27:07 AM: ✔️
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on August 03, 2017, 12:46:53 AM: new graphics script, except this time i wrote it

(https://s1.postimg.org/4amc9c5n3/output_nlr_Jdz.gif)

(https://s4.postimg.org/osdv2z1ul/output_Ajxvwk.gif)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on August 03, 2017, 03:25:50 AM: recompiled wrf with normal earth values and i'm going to rerun the above sim and compare them at 7 days

i'm probably going to have to do another run where i just change the radius of the planet and see if anything changes, cause i'm not sure if geogrid knows what to do with different sized planets (and it might be the only thing that knows how to deal with them)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on August 04, 2017, 03:19:18 AM: Quote from: atomic7732 on August 03, 2017, 03:25:50 AM
recompiled wrf with normal earth values and i'm going to rerun the above sim and compare them at 7 days

i'm probably going to have to do another run where i just change the radius of the planet and see if anything changes, cause i'm not sure if geogrid knows what to do with different sized planets (and it might be the only thing that knows how to deal with them)

here's a comparison of the 168hr output from the normal earth vs the earth with pavala characteristics simulations

(https://s1.postimg.org/hze1cyewv/pavalearthwrf.gif)

they're surprisingly similar, but the things i changed seem to work...

here's some output from a point near/over visalia, CA of the planetary boundary layer height: (blue is earth, red is "pavala", the run is 7 days)

(https://i.gyazo.com/c1a60f8c193a5e63e73bfc85a9bfcbc8.png)

as you can see, the planetary boundary layer is higher on the planet with the lower gravity, which you would expect because the lower gravity causes the atmosphere to have a larger scale height

and i checked that changing the radius works (or does something at least) by running a sim with all earth characteristics except a pavala-sized radius

so now i figure... most of the differences in pavala won't be weather, but climate (as a result of lower insolation, different axial tilt, and different year length)

although after looking through all the model constants and determining what most of them are, there's one thing i didn't set to simulate the pavala-like earth, the angular velocity of the planet, which affects the coriolis parameter and thus might change the nature of the cyclonic (and anticyclonic) systems on the synoptic scale

another thing that will change the weather a lot is if the landmasses are different, so i just edited the input file i've been using to have no land anywhere, both to check the feasibility of adding pavala's land data and also to see how much different land masses affect the weather

so yeah, 7 day ocean planet sim coming in the morning
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on October 29, 2017, 02:18:08 AM: (https://s1.postimg.org/3r1ptgf6an/output_0_Hjiy_G.gif)

gif flashes between 6 hour "satellite imagery" of an ocean planet and flattish pavala

unfortunately, the ocean planet has interpolated sea surface temperatures and the pavala does not, because they cause problems with high temperature gradients and cause weird weather and literally crash wrf

you can see some pavala coastline (most notably, ivinis)

so the status is this:

- we can't interpolate sst's so we're stuck with (at the moment) literal earth sst's and whatever weird quirks come with that (saharan sst's are insane), as well as earth land temperatures (though this should change as a few days pass in the run) - this is a general problem which definitely needs fixing, i'm not sure how to fix it yet though
- elevation doesn't work... but it does. i tried simulating it with full elevation and it caused a segfault (probably funky weather from the tibets or incomplete elevation, not entirely sure yet). the simulation you see above uses pavalan elevation but... 1/10th as pronounced. so elevation can definitely be changed, it's just that ours is either not smooth or complete enough.
- i need to make a pavalan coastline overlay

the most significant issue is definitely the sst issue... because we're currently forced to have terrible sst's where the "sahara" causes the ocean to be like 32C and makes hypercanes. that's obviously not great. idk how we can fix this though yet. an alternative that might work (temporarily) that i just thought of is replace all the temperatures with interpolated temperatures, cause we know that works, and since the soil temps of the land should come into equilibrium over a few days of simulating, it shouldn't really cause a problem. idk let's test it and then run either that sim or the one i just did overnight out to 7 days.

edit: no, that didn't work
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on October 30, 2017, 01:35:06 AM: 7 day pavala (1/10th elevation), no sst interpolation run

(https://s1.postimg.org/6z4t3uldm7/output_Qx7nh_R.gif)

(https://s1.postimg.org/42ifj07tvz/output_lp_JNcm.gif)

some selected station data

(https://i.gyazo.com/fe35b29abb42ec5b0fb50db87a0c7e12.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/797f80e79343c9e4c88fb4fb29d1c8bb.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/92d74da30cfdcad8aa5365a9ebf03848.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/c11368a87a1684129b65f8c081cdb39f.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/c5df678a3ff36be1103d5f5a4bcb2671.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/a0eccd25dea68318796d8bc4e887bc2d.png)

the last one is a point on one of the ganuo islands where the "hypercane" passes over and has surprisingly little wind or rain (30 kts and 3 inches of rain is not much for a 970 hPa storm)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on November 06, 2017, 03:09:59 AM: 3 week may run (1/10th pavala no interpolated sst's) (aka same as above but run out for longer)

total precipitation during the run in inches:

(http://i.imgur.com/qwq3f7d.png)

also some notes for myself

[08:05]   Kalassak   "My problem was stability issues when bringing the 3-D initial fields down to the surface. Along the Andes the model kept blowing up. I finally applied two passes of a 1-2-1 smoother to the dynamic fields and this seems to have fixed the stability problem as the model starts up"
[08:05]   Kalassak   hm so yeah it is likely a problem with just
[08:05]   Kalassak   changing the elevation
[08:05]   Kalassak   there is effectively no air where the land is removed and air is "clipping" with the land where it's added
[08:05]   Kalassak   causing stability problems
[08:15]   Kalassak   "if you alter terrain in the geo_em file, then the metgrid and real.exe steps will put the terrain-following coordinates in the right places based on the surface pressure and elevation, and will hydrostatically balance the initial state to your specified terrain. There are issues with what to "fill in" the atmosphere with in the places that are no longer below ground, but if you're using...
[08:15]   Kalassak   ...NCEP grids as initial conditions then they do have information on pressure levels below ground (which are calculated from the US Standard Atmosphere)"

but this doesn't explain why the july and october runs don't work for even earth
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on December 03, 2017, 11:07:40 PM: some notes for later

http://forum.wrfforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=342 www.wrfems.info/viewtopic.php?t=141
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 03, 2018, 03:42:02 AM: i got it to work

basically what happened was the GFS output data changed a bit and the ungrib program couldn't handle that properly so the simulation always crashed on startup (and this is why one of my input files was creating a working simulation but all the new ones i kept trying weren't)

so here's a quick 12 hour image with 1/10th elevation... (coastline graphic isn't updated but land and elevation is in the sim) you can see a weird shockwave from the non-existence of the andes

(http://i.imgur.com/Y2pp1lw.png)

and i have a 7 day FULL ELEVATION simulation running overnight so :)

now that we have got past the annoying technical part, we have actual challenging things to do:
- realistic sst's (non-earth)
- land types so that you can't see africa
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 04, 2018, 03:35:58 AM: working on some graphics

(this one is mean sea level pressure & 10 meter winds)

(http://i.imgur.com/5xJHtPf.jpg)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: Darvince on March 04, 2018, 09:49:08 AM: wtf is going on in east arctica
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 04, 2018, 02:11:07 PM: fiah made a big plateauy thing there a few days ago, and i guess because it's so cold and elevated the mslp calculation gives really high values (typically 1100 hPa or higher)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 09, 2018, 02:07:55 AM: recompiled wrf today with vortex following nests so i tested it with a 3 day 0z run of TC Hola to see if it would work with a global domain (Earth)

481 x 240 grid (83 km resolution) with a 101 x 101 ~15 degree grid centered on Hola (17 km res)

it's running right now so it would seem so

this is good because the 83 km resolution is double the current testing resolution, and it is able to form cyclones... and then the cyclone centered 17 km grid is for resolving the winds better and hopefully providing more accurate cyclones tracks + amazing simulated infrared imagery like the first few posts in this thread, so that when we run the real simulation every cyclone will have hourly "imagery" for it

the only problem is that now i'll have to write a script to restart wrf every 24 hours of sim time or so and search for tropical cyclones and automatically place grids where they are
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 09, 2018, 08:36:10 AM: and here's hola!!!!!!!!!

(https://s13.postimg.org/911w9nmmv/output_N7cb_NJ.gif)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: Gurren Lagann TSS on March 09, 2018, 09:25:53 AM: Quote from: atomic7732 on March 09, 2018, 08:36:10 AM
and here's hola!!!!!!!!!

(https://s13.postimg.org/911w9nmmv/output_N7cb_NJ.gif)

Amazing! It looks like it goes from Bougaville to Sydney.
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 11, 2018, 03:18:00 AM: http://paladinofstorms.net/amc/test/

i made a page where you can view the animations at full resolution so i don't have to make gifs because that's annoying and it makes the images smaller

idk what is up with the domain shifting around so much... well actually i do, it's that this

(http://paladinofstorms.net/meteo/wrf_test/olr/out_27.png)

has nothing at the surface

(http://paladinofstorms.net/meteo/wrf_test/mslp_10m_winds/out_27.png)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 19, 2018, 02:04:40 AM: note to self: the dx and dy values in namelist.input are very, very important

(https://i.imgur.com/grQ8l55.gif)

(stronger jets = fixed dx & dy)

and a comparison with gfs at the same time

(https://i.imgur.com/EYRsFdy.gif)

so it's pretty good

here's the track for marcus on the global grid

(https://i.imgur.com/H7S87pb.png)

and also the vortex-following grid (smoothed by default)

(https://i.imgur.com/Ytw5vLy.png)

and not smoothed

(https://i.imgur.com/YZQnfqP.png)

and finally... the moment you've all been waiting for...

(https://i.imgur.com/qJ2Wbe1.png)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 20, 2018, 03:46:09 AM: today's report:

i decided to run a test to see if:
- my simple temporary sst fix works
- tc grid restarts weaken storms erroneously (since it will restart from the coarse grid every 24 hours in the official sim)
- we can observe some true pavalan cyclones
- multiple tc grids can be active at once

so i ran deland.py and reland.py to remove all land, replace the sst's with interpolated data (so that you couldn't have cold tibets and hot australias imposed on the ocean) and then add pavalan land over it, but i'm fairly certain that didn't work because in the run australia starts blowing up a lot of convection probably in preparation to make a hypercane :/

the sim broke about 28 hours in, and i restarted it assuming it was a timestep issue (it was)

based on the cyclone (marcus!pavala) in the sim's intensity, it seems to have lost only about 1 kt or less of intensity, so it's probably not that big of a deal

then the sim broke again at 47.5 hours from the original start time... and it threw an error i have never seen before, so i really have no idea what the problem is... the (potential) good news is that since the run was technically not intending what i wanted to do originally i plan on restarting the run and will hopefully never have to deal with that error ever again, but i figure that's probably not going to happen

the fourth point wasn't tested because we didn't get far enough for another cyclone to actually form but on the third point...

i hereby present to you...

the honorary first pavalan cyclone...

Severe Tropical Storm Apeana...

(https://s14.postimg.org/d6np030f5/output_p_O2sp1.gif)

i decided to name it because it was so amazing to have simulated it and different enough from marcus!earth that i felt it was okay in this situation, being the first true cyclone simulated on pavala (also that land is the hac peninsula thing)

you can see in the animation several shockwaves passing through which are the result of the elevation changes, and this presumably also causes a lot of noisiness in the simulation as compared to the earth version (i don't have the graphics uploaded for that but trust me... it's really weird) so that's something else that needs to be fixed

you can also see apeana being sheared by the forming australian hypercane and weakening

in other news, since i ran this at the official resolution we have some pretty global imagery as well

(https://i.imgur.com/YxvuMO6.png)

tomorrow:
- fix deland.py so the sst's work
- see if another SIGABRT happens and if so, attempt to fix it
- email wrfhelp or sth to get tips on editing the wrfbdy_input to make another planet, especially with respect to sea surface temps and elevation related problems
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: Darvince on March 20, 2018, 09:39:56 AM: holy crap for some reason i never spotted north america last night but here it's extremely obvious
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 21, 2018, 02:44:08 AM: Quote from: atomic7732 on March 20, 2018, 03:46:09 AM
tomorrow:
- fix deland.py so the sst's work ✓
- see if another SIGABRT happens and if so, attempt to fix it ✓
- email wrfhelp or sth to get tips on editing the wrfbdy_input to make another planet, especially with respect to sea surface temps and elevation related problems

i got deland.py to fix the most problematic sst's so now we can officially unofficially run wrf

also figured out the sigabrt problem: the program was ~~terminated~~ aborted because it was writing out onto a full volume

didn't do the last thing yet cause eh

so here's the outgoing longwave radiation for this run, it's so pretty ^-^
also note that australia isn't making hypercanes and you can't really see earth land in the ocean (you can on land sometimes)
you can also see the clouds created along the shockwaves from changing elevation

(https://s14.postimg.org/ijiie6fox/output_k_D88_HL.gif)

here's the vortex-following domain for Tropical Cyclone Apeana
it's about to make landfall in ganuo (most likely), and at the end of the run it's 84 kts, 944 hPa

(https://s14.postimg.org/nojpve7xt/output_Xx_WE0p.gif)

and its track

(https://i.imgur.com/uQs5vVr.png)

and here's the weird chaotic ripples or w/e, presumably from the elevation shockwaves, visible in these graphics for 250 hPa geopotential height & wind

(https://s14.postimg.org/pgcoqjbxt/output_QISn_Z1.gif)

compared with the smooth earth run at the same level

(https://s14.postimg.org/4jggm0j3l/output_XMHg_CM.gif)

tomorrow i'd like to just continue this run ~~for sexy imagery~~ and also to get a new pavalan cyclone and run two vortex-following grids at the same time

maybe other things too idk
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 23, 2018, 11:57:10 PM: [11:45 PM] just ridin my moa: now
[11:45 PM] just ridin my moa: it does appear that wrfrst_d01 is basically wrfinput_d01 except with a bunch more fields
[11:45 PM] just ridin my moa: so this means to me
[11:46 PM] just ridin my moa: i might just be able to rename it and with a few tweaks have it work
[11:46 PM] just ridin my moa: it might just ignore useless variables
[11:46 PM] just ridin my moa: or else just delete them if it complains
[11:47 PM] just ridin my moa: the reason this might work as opposed to interpolating the output to create a restart file is the restart files have a lot more variable fields
[11:48 PM] just ridin my moa: so obviously figuring out how to make those is much much harder than just deleting them and tweaking a few things (mostly renaming variables and maybe changing some global attributes)
[11:49 PM] just ridin my moa: i can probably fool wrf into taking the TC domains that already exist restart files while generating new ones for new TCs by just telling it there's a file input on that domain

on doing a restart as a new run so that wrf will generate new domains for new TCs that i want to have vortex-following grids

because i tried continuing the current run with a new domain around a disturbance near 12S 145E (east of apeana) but wrf couldn't find the restart file for domain 3 (the new domain), which makes sense because it didn't exist, but to start the run normally you don't need any input data for the TC domain because it will do the interpolation/calculation/creation of the domain itself at the start... so i just have to fool wrf into thinking the restart data is completely new data and tell it to use pre-existing data for TCs that were active before the start
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 24, 2018, 11:37:48 PM: i wrote a script that just renamed a few variables and it seems to have worked

now i need to work on automatic restarting every 24 hours with new domains... that's going to be fun

also i should upgrade my track data outputter and maybe even the graphics with fancy cyclonephase data

ran the sim for 24 hours to check if the south uqe disturbance was ready for a grid but didn't generate the apeana graphics
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 27, 2018, 01:57:45 AM: apeana has become extratropical so we can have a full video!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTfygHz_oQ

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/428079110158417933/Apeana_-141_1274.png)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on March 31, 2018, 03:12:35 AM: living, breathing pavala

(https://s18.postimg.org/i5yg8hsop/output_xm_Zz_Rm.gif)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/429578031867363328/out_15.png)

also there will likely be a south uqe cyclone tomorrow (i'll run it with a tc domain if possible), it got up to 33 kts (1 below tropical storm) just before the sim ended
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on April 01, 2018, 03:18:45 AM: well, several new cyclones have managed to form and achieve wind speeds >=34 kt which has earned them the names Bikol and Dika

Tropical Storm Bikol

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/429892231588085770/out_23.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/429897414904905728/out_23.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/429945075372654592/Bikol_-195_-1723.png)

Tropical Storm Dika (on the Bikol grid... )

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/429941642397483018/out_21.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/429945113691815936/Dika_-102_1738.png)

but you'll notice that they're not centered... and that's because the grid doesn't seem to properly update to follow the storm

which is weird because it will print out the correct ATCF location for Bikol, even after it leaves the grid (although idk it acts a little weird i think after a while the longitude stopped moving and sometimes the wind wouldn't update, presumably because the low actually leaves the grid eventually), but yet it won't move the grid properly (it will move the grid a bit)

i don't know why this would be the case, apeana was tracked at 500 hPa (default setting), but bikol and dika are too weak to be able to do that, so i moved it down to 900 hPa and it seems to track it but again... it doesn't really work

maybe there's some weird setting in the reset files that is saying the grid should be somewhere else (where apeana used to be) and that's messing it up or something? idk

edit: corral_dist(max_dom) = 8 ; how many coarse grid cells the moving nest is allowed to get
near the mother domain boundary

alternatively it might be that the grid starts inside the corral distance and that's messing with everything
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: Austritistanian on April 01, 2018, 03:50:49 AM: Absolutely loved this, keep it up
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on April 01, 2018, 11:30:09 PM: Quote from: Austritistanian on April 01, 2018, 03:50:49 AM
Absolutely loved this, keep it up
thanks :)

since bikol and dika were such disasters i couldn't really get grids to follow them (i partly fixed the problem maybe but i don't know, the domains were acting weird around the dateline still) i don't have videos for them, but i do have some updated tracks (actually i don't have bikol's oops)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/430233178264043520/Dika_-102_1738.png)

next sim i make i'm going to move the grid so the boundary isn't at 180E but is instead at 0E, where it'll be over land instead so we won't have these problems

but i do have a video of a new storm that now that i think about it probably isn't actually a storm but whatever... also it's in the north uqe, just south of bongatar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXLFf2B6u7Q

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/430232707616866304/Sekekkivvi_105_1745.png)

what this shows me is that maybe letting the sim generate coarse grid storms with winds up to near 35 kts and 900-300 hPa thicknesses of 935 dam might be a good threshold for giving them TC grids otherwise they are too weak and unconsolidated to really deal with (they caused me to start and restart a bunch of sims to check if they worked and all i got from them was... nothing really), so in the future i'll be more scrutinizing before i try to give a storm a grid

on the other hand, Bikol got up to 50 kts and Dika was a tropical storm on the coarse grid i believe

tomorrow:
- more running of the sim until we get a well-defined TC
- respond to wrfhelp about what i've found out so far (fool restarts, dateline problems)
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on April 10, 2018, 03:03:36 AM: oh you know why there might have been no decent TCs for an entire month (!)

i was running the sim on the conus physics... which i figured wouldn't be much of a problem considering marcus/apeana was simulated just fine

it's possible that the conus physics are not conducive to cyclogenesis, but will support an already existing cyclone relatively well (although apeana/marcus wasn't actually all that strong at initialization it might be "stronger"/structured differently than what wrf can generate

contrary to this point: i had hyper cyclogenesis when running wrf last time (old version earth sim) with an unknown set of physics which was probably default (and likely to be conus and not friendly to tropical weather) so i'm not entirely confident this is the case

but i will be re-running the sim, probably from the same starting point with tropical physics instead to see if:
- apeana strengthens more (it only got up to like 90 kts which is only a few kts stronger than the low res earth sim i did last year, disappointing for such higher resolution, also considering that irl it was a cat 5 and models generally had that down anyway, the physics might be the problem here)
- new cyclones form
- extratropical weather is handled differently
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on April 15, 2018, 01:05:33 AM: (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/434972521549266948/out_72.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/434974083671785473/out_72.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/434982575426240514/Apeana2_-141_1274.png)

well it looks different

it's also stronger than with the conus physics (98 kts vs 91 kts)

more later (like how the rest of the global weather is reacting and whether new TCs can form)

also idk how to shift the grid around 180 degrees
Title: Re: Kalassak runs WRF
Post by: atomic7732 on April 22, 2018, 11:12:58 PM: well Apeana is extratropical now

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/437835378615910402/Apeana2_-141_1274.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/437851449385549825/out_56.png)

but we got a new cyclone that wasn't a disaster! say hello to the edeto region TC Pśílsḱete:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/437835416058593280/Psilskete_-134_939.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/437836414973902869/out_28.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255420814114029568/437836921994084364/out_28.png)